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Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22104 Posts
November 12 2015 10:41 GMT
#2461
On November 12 2015 19:29 sicklucker wrote:
to clarify when you said both me and xata are scum. Because thats not even possible. You first think xata is scum (thats fine thats a solid read) then your second unrelated scum read is me which is crazy since were the least likely to be a team in the game.

If you scum read xata i expect a town read by defualt another random thing that does not make sense in your filter


I was never sure about either of you until you started pushing me with that blob of nonsense, I just knew that the safest play would be to have you both out of the mission.

It's just simple logic that if on a failed mission there's 1 guy who I townread and 2 who I'm unsure on, that I rather focus on everyone else and by default decide to not send either of you or Xata on a mission.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
November 12 2015 10:42 GMT
#2462
On November 12 2015 19:38 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2015 19:28 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Vivax, you've mentioned you think Xata is scum, yet you're still going after SL. Do you think Xata nominated two scum in the first mission and then failed it or are you coming round on your Xata read?

Also, what is your read on me?


Feels wise I lean town on you but it's not a very fleshed out read. I acknowledged stuff such as you actually going against sentiment with your read on me at a good timing (the one where I asked you about your TR on me). It's also pretty unlikely you're spy just for the fact that right now I'm leaning SL + Kita and that's already 2/3 down. I need to reconsider Rels however and take a closer look at what you called throwing shit at you before the mission failed.

As for Xata, it was my initial impression after reading the start of the game. I already explained what I didn't like about him.

For me the matter is rather simple, I'd rather not have SL on a mission. I don't want kita on a mission.

I know a scummy push when I see it, so right now I'm leaning towards SL being spy and Xata being meh (no I haven't come around yet, I will when I'm better caught up).

Fair enough. I'd recommend reading what Rels posted during the time the mission was still up in the air. It was pretty bad.
Given SL isn't actually trying to make the case that you're scum, do you still think he's scummy?
On November 12 2015 19:39 sicklucker wrote:
Yes but I said those 3 anywho..

Your also the one im most suspicious of those 5 so w/e I see where your coming from with me. Im down to just go with it tho seems like alot of work to get my prefered 4 team with so many subs. also last I hear shockey was scum reading ryan so might be hard to get him to play ball.

Also coag is coah so who knows wtf he will do. Probably wont read the thread so hopefully he blindly believes us

What makes you doubt on me, or is it just being more sure of others?
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
November 12 2015 10:44 GMT
#2463
On November 12 2015 19:41 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2015 19:29 sicklucker wrote:
to clarify when you said both me and xata are scum. Because thats not even possible. You first think xata is scum (thats fine thats a solid read) then your second unrelated scum read is me which is crazy since were the least likely to be a team in the game.

If you scum read xata i expect a town read by defualt another random thing that does not make sense in your filter


I was never sure about either of you until you started pushing me with that blob of nonsense, I just knew that the safest play would be to have you both out of the mission.

It's just simple logic that if on a failed mission there's 1 guy who I townread and 2 who I'm unsure on, that I rather focus on everyone else and by default decide to not send either of you or Xata on a mission.


I never pushed you before the vote at all dude... You scum read me for something stupid like me saying "we can be cool" you cant even remember your own scum reads...
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22104 Posts
November 12 2015 10:45 GMT
#2464
Given SL isn't actually trying to make the case that you're scum, do you still think he's scummy?


I don't care if now he says that he doesn't want to push me as spy. That's what he did and on top of it in a super scummy way so I'm not changing my read just cause now he's backpedaling.
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
November 12 2015 10:46 GMT
#2465
Im pretty sure of the others and your crafty and kind of low key this game. Infact I was super suspicious of you untill you no voted thats probably the only reason im including you and you could be smart enough to vote for cred there since it was a landslide vote
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
November 12 2015 10:46 GMT
#2466
On November 12 2015 19:45 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
Given SL isn't actually trying to make the case that you're scum, do you still think he's scummy?


I don't care if now he says that he doesn't want to push me as spy. That's what he did and on top of it in a super scummy way so I'm not changing my read just cause now he's backpedaling.


you have no idea whats going on if your town stop posting and read o.o
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
November 12 2015 10:49 GMT
#2467
Like art if you remember you were not in my last town circle pre vote. You basicly replaced rels after he shit the bed.

Like rels voting yes is more scummy then the rest of the yes votes because the next 3 people to pick the votes were shocey/rels/me all 3 would have included better teams from rels pov including himself
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22104 Posts
November 12 2015 10:50 GMT
#2468
On November 12 2015 19:44 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2015 19:41 Vivax wrote:
On November 12 2015 19:29 sicklucker wrote:
to clarify when you said both me and xata are scum. Because thats not even possible. You first think xata is scum (thats fine thats a solid read) then your second unrelated scum read is me which is crazy since were the least likely to be a team in the game.

If you scum read xata i expect a town read by defualt another random thing that does not make sense in your filter


I was never sure about either of you until you started pushing me with that blob of nonsense, I just knew that the safest play would be to have you both out of the mission.

It's just simple logic that if on a failed mission there's 1 guy who I townread and 2 who I'm unsure on, that I rather focus on everyone else and by default decide to not send either of you or Xata on a mission.


I never pushed you before the vote at all dude... You scum read me for something stupid like me saying "we can be cool" you cant even remember your own scum reads...


It was a fucking joke dude. I just entered the game and you actually said "wow looks like Vivax isn't immediately scumreading me, maybe we can be friends" which just sounded like you'd put a knife at the throat of anyone who scumreads you. Like an actual mafioso would say, you know?

Sure, it was a joke with a core of truth cause I didn't trust both you and Xata, but a joke nonetheless, and you read it like it was a definite scumread. Might as well have cleared Xata back then if that was the case, but it's obvious it isn't.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22104 Posts
November 12 2015 10:55 GMT
#2469
Anyway enough talking about this and let's talk plans.

Coag/Artanis/Shockey/me would be a great team.

Shockey just reads super derpy to me and I have a hard time thinking he's mafia for that. He's more like super derpy townie who causes a lot of wuts. Sure, rayn mentioned the instance where his votes made little sense, but when he overall makes little sense then that puts things into perspective.
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
November 12 2015 11:01 GMT
#2470
No team will happen that does not include me and hts. I can understand not including one in extreme circumstances but not two.

Anyway vivax let me explain why I came off suspicious as you. If you knew what was happening in the game you should instantly town reading me from your pov because you think xata/kita are scum (im literraly the hardest unaligned player to them in the game)

But then I remembered theres no way you acualy read the game and are just being stupid omgus reactive so your null.

But dont be an asshole and say my push is lame and scummy

BECAUSE IT MAKES PERFECT FUCKING SENSE
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
November 12 2015 11:04 GMT
#2471
On November 12 2015 19:49 sicklucker wrote:
Like art if you remember you were not in my last town circle pre vote. You basicly replaced rels after he shit the bed.

Like rels voting yes is more scummy then the rest of the yes votes because the next 3 people to pick the votes were shocey/rels/me all 3 would have included better teams from rels pov including himself

Yeah that's fair. It doesn't make any sense for him to vote yes, especially since he called out the fear of HtS/me having voiced being okay with/not strongly opposing the mission.

I would like you to go deeper into my filter and analyze me more thoroughly though. I think it's pretty clear I have a town agenda if you look through it.

On November 12 2015 19:46 sicklucker wrote:
Im pretty sure of the others and your crafty and kind of low key this game. Infact I was super suspicious of you untill you no voted thats probably the only reason im including you and you could be smart enough to vote for cred there since it was a landslide vote

Does 'the others' include Vivax?
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
November 12 2015 11:06 GMT
#2472
not really but I just looked at the nomination order and i might have to work with him if the "others" want too
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
November 12 2015 11:07 GMT
#2473
I like you more since rayn rage quit if that makes anysense. ( thats so bullshit for scum)
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22104 Posts
November 12 2015 11:07 GMT
#2474
HTS really bothered me yesterday with her hyped writing and question spam. I felt like she was just calling me mafia over my head when I was talking against her all the time and instead of arguing things through with me she spammed questions about reads that I didn't give. I think she was trying to do publicity for kita being town over actual townies, overall, since they seem to push the same shit.

I was around reading that and felt pretty pissed off at the accusations and the big formats she was spamming, and when she started spamming questions about my reads I peaced out and went to bed cause if there's something I can't be arsed to do is take a quick read of some random dudes as if I could do that within a few minutes in a game this size.

I think she asked me about kita, then I said something, then she immediately asked me about Artanis. It just felt like a raffic of hasty questions that she didn't elaborate on.

I'll play a lot starting tonight/tomorrow, but don't ask me to be a reading machine, read everything within two days, ignoring any points I come across worth mentioning, and just come to the table with finished conclusions. That's utopic for a replacement.
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
November 12 2015 11:08 GMT
#2475
altho xata put me in over you.. that is sort of suspicious you have to give me credit there since we both agree hes scum. He could have thought I was en easier fight but still
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
November 12 2015 11:09 GMT
#2476
vivax pro tip dont just omgus all your reads when you sub into a game like your doing with me/hts because so much shit has happened already
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22104 Posts
November 12 2015 11:09 GMT
#2477
On November 12 2015 20:01 sicklucker wrote:
No team will happen that does not include me and hts. I can understand not including one in extreme circumstances but not two.

Anyway vivax let me explain why I came off suspicious as you. If you knew what was happening in the game you should instantly town reading me from your pov because you think xata/kita are scum (im literraly the hardest unaligned player to them in the game)

But then I remembered theres no way you acualy read the game and are just being stupid omgus reactive so your null.

But dont be an asshole and say my push is lame and scummy

BECAUSE IT MAKES PERFECT FUCKING SENSE


This post is emotional, ad hominem garbage.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
November 12 2015 11:10 GMT
#2478
I kinda want to send me/vivax/shockeyy/coag because there'd be no one that Xata scumreads on there so he'd have no excuse voting no.

I'm not sure on vivax though, he's making too much sense which is worrisome.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
November 12 2015 11:11 GMT
#2479
On November 12 2015 20:08 sicklucker wrote:
altho xata put me in over you.. that is sort of suspicious you have to give me credit there since we both agree hes scum. He could have thought I was en easier fight but still

Yeah I can see that being a point in your favour, but I'd say that's something that makes you more likely to be town rather than me being more likely to be scum. You'd definitely be considered an easier fight.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
November 12 2015 11:12 GMT
#2480
Actually kinda wanna look at Vivax/Xata interactions now.
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