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sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
November 12 2015 11:12 GMT
#2481
I dont think theres any value in proving xata is scum. The mext mission is the hardest and scums only chance to win the game its no time for experiments...

Just pass the mission.

mission 4 it takes two scum to fail so we will always pass that. and by mission five we will have alot of information.

Mission 3 is the game pretty much we need the perfect team
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
November 12 2015 11:13 GMT
#2482
Oh wait Vivax = Superbia. Derp. Nevermind.
Vivax is fine. Very likely clean if Xata is scum.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21965 Posts
November 12 2015 11:14 GMT
#2483
On November 12 2015 20:10 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I kinda want to send me/vivax/shockeyy/coag because there'd be no one that Xata scumreads on there so he'd have no excuse voting no.

I'm not sure on vivax though, he's making too much sense which is worrisome.


If it's worrisome when I make sense, imagine when I don't.
With that logic you are just deciding that you can't read me and call it a day.

I stand by my point that SL's push on me isn't just omgus like he claims but is actually based on scummy arguments (him cherrypicking my kita read even though a few posts later I say I'd be fine sending that team in spite of that).

And not just the content, also the timing (when people start turning on me he does too with that cherrypick).

And when I call him mafia for it, he starts insulting me.
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
November 12 2015 11:15 GMT
#2484
On November 12 2015 20:11 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2015 20:08 sicklucker wrote:
altho xata put me in over you.. that is sort of suspicious you have to give me credit there since we both agree hes scum. He could have thought I was en easier fight but still

Yeah I can see that being a point in your favour, but I'd say that's something that makes you more likely to be town rather than me being more likely to be scum. You'd definitely be considered an easier fight.


it makes me confirmed town acualy. So im curious why you dont want to include me? are you worried xata is town? If thats true we probably lost the game already based on thread sentiment so why not just include me? im confirmed not on xatas team
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21965 Posts
November 12 2015 11:16 GMT
#2485
Artanis I just can't believe you don't see what I see on SL.

It goes beyond OMgus, but his arguments were literally just cherrypicking, and they came at the wrong time.
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
November 12 2015 11:19 GMT
#2486
like if im scum lets think about who my partners would be.

It cant be rayn he would have pushed for me not to be on the day 1 team.
Xata would not have put me on the day 1 team.
kita seems like a stretch. I have bussed but certainly never this hard and in a new format for me

That leaves rels and the people already in your town circle.

So if im scum you already lost the game since your nominating my partners hts/vivax/shockey those arel ike my only possible partners.

so theres no logical reason for you not to nominate me and you know this makes sense.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
November 12 2015 11:19 GMT
#2487
On November 12 2015 20:15 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2015 20:11 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On November 12 2015 20:08 sicklucker wrote:
altho xata put me in over you.. that is sort of suspicious you have to give me credit there since we both agree hes scum. He could have thought I was en easier fight but still

Yeah I can see that being a point in your favour, but I'd say that's something that makes you more likely to be town rather than me being more likely to be scum. You'd definitely be considered an easier fight.


it makes me confirmed town acualy. So im curious why you dont want to include me? are you worried xata is town? If thats true we probably lost the game already based on thread sentiment so why not just include me? im confirmed not on xatas team

Because I'm not entirely sure on Xata/you and Vivax/Kita. I can see a world where Xata is town and you're not and a world where Kita is town and Vivax is not. I actually believe that you're always town when Vivax is and usually scum when he is too thinking about it just because Xata and Vivax' alignments are so intertwined and opposite from that start.

On November 12 2015 20:16 Vivax wrote:
Artanis I just can't believe you don't see what I see on SL.

It goes beyond OMgus, but his arguments were literally just cherrypicking, and they came at the wrong time.

He's never actually called you scum though. There doesn't seem to be a scum agenda behind it. If he's scum, he doesn't care about you as much as getting on a mission himself.
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
November 12 2015 11:20 GMT
#2488
ok art now that I thought about it if you dont include me your an idiot ;p
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
November 12 2015 11:21 GMT
#2489
So art your saying my scum team is rels/vivax thats fair. but why include vivax then? is that not the same as including me?

Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
November 12 2015 11:22 GMT
#2490
On November 12 2015 20:19 sicklucker wrote:
like if im scum lets think about who my partners would be.

It cant be rayn he would have pushed for me not to be on the day 1 team.
Xata would not have put me on the day 1 team.
kita seems like a stretch. I have bussed but certainly never this hard and in a new format for me

That leaves rels and the people already in your town circle.

So if im scum you already lost the game since your nominating my partners hts/vivax/shockey those arel ike my only possible partners.

so theres no logical reason for you not to nominate me and you know this makes sense.

I don't think you'd ever be with Rayn/Xata, no. I think you'd be with Vivax and Rels. I see two potential teams basically:
Xata/Kita/Rels
Vivax/SL/Rels
Where I consider the former much more likely. However, when we still have the choice in a 4-player mission, I'd prefer a mission of me/coag/HtS/Shockeyy. The Vivax instead of HtS thing was more an idea regarding seeing what Xata would vote.
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
November 12 2015 11:25 GMT
#2491
well you need to choose one world artanis and not nit pick people from both worlds. either you want to nominate both me and vivax or neither of us.. this might have been a slip
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
November 12 2015 11:26 GMT
#2492
On November 12 2015 20:25 sicklucker wrote:
well you need to choose one world artanis and not nit pick people from both worlds. either you want to nominate both me and vivax or neither of us.. this might have been a slip

The point was choosing a team which includes one player from one of the potential teams that doesn't include any of the other, but also doesn't include any scumreads of that other team to see how they would vote.
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
November 12 2015 11:26 GMT
#2493
On November 11 2015 21:48 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Btw, if this mission fails there's at most 1 scum between me/hts/shockeyy unless you think rayn id scum.
I look forward to the read evaluations.


also what happened to this line of thinking artanis? why did you drop your hts and shockey read.

opps?
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
November 12 2015 11:27 GMT
#2494
holy shit your scum lol
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
November 12 2015 11:27 GMT
#2495
I also literally posted it as soon as I thought of it. If there's more nitpicking you'd like to do, that'd be why.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
November 12 2015 11:28 GMT
#2496
On November 12 2015 20:26 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 11 2015 21:48 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Btw, if this mission fails there's at most 1 scum between me/hts/shockeyy unless you think rayn id scum.
I look forward to the read evaluations.


also what happened to this line of thinking artanis? why did you drop your hts and shockey read.

opps?

On November 12 2015 06:44 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
So anyway, the fact that rels is already trying to throw shit on me before the mission failed makes me pretty sure he's scum. Looking at potential partners, I actually don't think shockeyy's scum. Two reasons:
A) he really hasn't been playing to any kind of wincon and in the end I have to admit it probably means he's town.
B) I don't think mafia rels would be the first to risk townreading shockeyy whom looked really bad.

As for HtS, I actually think she might be town. The way she keeps on trucking and focuses on solving the game even in the face of being nearly universally townread makes me eerie.

Which means there must be a scum in kita/vivax too since scum xata would never nominate scum sl with him and rayn is never scum this game. Gonna have to focus on that later.

zzz
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
November 12 2015 11:29 GMT
#2497
On November 12 2015 08:02 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2015 07:20 Half the Sky wrote:
On November 12 2015 06:44 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
So anyway, the fact that rels is already trying to throw shit on me before the mission failed makes me pretty sure he's scum. Looking at potential partners, I actually don't think shockeyy's scum. Two reasons:
A) he really hasn't been playing to any kind of wincon and in the end I have to admit it probably means he's town.
B) I don't think mafia rels would be the first to risk townreading shockeyy whom looked really bad.

As for HtS, I actually think she might be town. The way she keeps on trucking and focuses on solving the game even in the face of being nearly universally townread makes me eerie.

Which means there must be a scum in kita/vivax too since scum xata would never nominate scum sl with him and rayn is never scum this game. Gonna have to focus on that later.


So it looks like we are on nearly the same page, although you think I must be universally scumread, not townread lol.

What do you think about the interactions between Kita/(then) Superbia/and Xatalos day 1?

Points against and/or of discussion on Superbia
- lurky mafia meta
- a bit of a stretch read against Xatalos
- no input on any of the nominations day 1

Thoughts?


Too tired to think about right now. Will check later.

At the moment I'd suggest an Artanis/Coag/Shockeyy/HtS team pending further research.


LOL THIS WAS TWO POSTS LATER

lol caught one boys
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
November 12 2015 11:29 GMT
#2498
oh ya rels counts but thats such a 180...
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
November 12 2015 11:30 GMT
#2499
its such a 180 that you didnt even include him in your list because you must have thought he was always town. anyway pick a fucking world artanis
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
November 12 2015 11:31 GMT
#2500
oh you thought rayn was gonna be sitting out in that post w/e im obv town here tho for my reading the thread llalalala
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