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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9244 Posts
November 10 2015 15:10 GMT
#2241
On November 09 2015 07:33 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Reason why I say that is because I suggested this team a while back. Not voting yes will look bad on my end anyways


If you wanted the team to pass, why did you include that tid bit about how you would have looked bad by rejecting at the end?
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
November 10 2015 15:11 GMT
#2242
On November 10 2015 23:46 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2015 22:02 Xatalos wrote:
Then again, otherwise this will probably go to SL's decision -> fail..... It's like picking between ebola and AIDS....


Just to be clear, am I the Ebola or the AIDS in this metaphor? This is very important.


Ebola
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
November 10 2015 15:12 GMT
#2243
On November 11 2015 00:03 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2015 06:31 Half the Sky wrote:
First "the scum xata wouldn't have the balls" that comes from the fact that sicklucker thought xatalos would give himself away too easily with a team of two players that were more obviously read as town. rayn even said sicklucker was obvious town, and though other players were more doubtful on sicklucker (myself included) from his OWN perspective and especially where sicklucker had a more inflated view of himself as town, this would actually make sense.

If you think about it from sicklucker's perspective it would make sense for town sicklucker to think that a scum xatalos wouldn't have the "balls" to reject a mission and given himself away in a 3-man mission team where the other two were more solidly townread.


Why do you say SL was more solidly townread? Of the people who accepted the mission:

Xatalos - Town read rayn/Xat more than SL
Half the Sky - Town read rayn/Xat more than SL
raynpelikoneet - Town read rayn/Xat more than SL
Artanis - Town read rayn/Xat more than SL

Even if you include the rejects votes, there wasn't a huge amount of SL support.

If anything, this points to a scum Xat wanting to bring along SL as the fall guy, not making a "ballsy move".

Show nested quote +
On November 10 2015 06:31 Half the Sky wrote:
He also said something else to the effect of "oh wait maybe I can trust xata if he put out a team I wanted or a team with him on it or what have you" - again I don't remember full context without opening a thousand tabs on my phone but that was another point in his favour.


You suggest that it is a point in his favor, but I'd say that it suggests he prioritizes self-inclusion over mission success.

Show nested quote +
On November 10 2015 06:31 Half the Sky wrote:
From a meta standpoint, (reference Void, Drams) scum sicklucker is concerned about giving away information on his teammates.


A few other people have already pointed this out, but I don't think this applies very well considering voting no unless he is included has the opposite effect. He doesn't have to worry about his teammate's inclusion at all if he can include himself.


Yeah... Especially that first part is what almost made me smash my head on my keyboard when she claimed that SL was more solidly townread than me earlier.....
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
November 10 2015 15:20 GMT
#2244
What's even more ridiculous is that HTS made several posts pushing suspicion on SL before the mission result, but when the result came out, she pretty much forgot about those posts and immediately started pushing rayn.... When that didn't really work out, she decided that maybe it would work with me and has pushed me since. For ever dumber and dumber reasons (really, the newest reasons are just too crap to even get mad about, like the point about my comment on rayn's first nomination suggestion).
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
November 10 2015 15:21 GMT
#2245
On November 11 2015 00:10 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2015 07:33 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Reason why I say that is because I suggested this team a while back. Not voting yes will look bad on my end anyways


If you wanted the team to pass, why did you include that tid bit about how you would have looked bad by rejecting at the end?


Uhhhhh I actually did????? That's the fucking problem. None of you read anything lol
Life?
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
November 10 2015 15:22 GMT
#2246
On November 11 2015 00:21 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 11 2015 00:10 kitaman27 wrote:
On November 09 2015 07:33 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Reason why I say that is because I suggested this team a while back. Not voting yes will look bad on my end anyways


If you wanted the team to pass, why did you include that tid bit about how you would have looked bad by rejecting at the end?


Uhhhhh I actually did????? That's the fucking problem. None of you read anything lol


What does this post even mean? kita said "why did you", and you respond with "I actually did????".
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
November 10 2015 15:43 GMT
#2247
On November 10 2015 19:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Meh... but then again i come back to the fact that Shockeyy and HtS are so fucking scummy. Like literally every single thing they post is so fucking scummy. ugh..


there not tho thats just in your mind. artanis is scummy. kita is scummy xata is scummy...

like thats the most likely team I see
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
November 10 2015 15:44 GMT
#2248
On November 10 2015 19:37 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2015 19:23 raynpelikoneet wrote:
There is absolutely no way HtS is town in this game.


I think that your Shockey scumread is either tinfoil or just out of spite.

This is your scenario:

He voted yes on a team two other spies voted no, and no on a team the 2 other spies most likely upvoted.

All your HTS is mafia with Shockey scenario has somewhat of a footing with team 1 but loses it entirely at team 2 when he voted no against HTS who you claim is scum with him. Everyone who voted no on team 2 is rightly included in your team except Shockey, and yourself who voted yes.

I have to admit I can also see why people would scumread him since I saw how he said kita had a lot more reads than Xata when kita was just listing Xata's reads, but that's a mistake that can happen to both alignments, esp. if he has little time to play.


its out of spite its not even a secret
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
November 10 2015 15:46 GMT
#2249
On November 10 2015 19:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
If Shockeyy is town why does he not prove my case on him is wrong?
I have posted it days ago. Why does he not do that?


BECAUSE HE DOESINT GIVE A SHIT
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
November 10 2015 15:51 GMT
#2250
On November 11 2015 00:03 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2015 06:31 Half the Sky wrote:
First "the scum xata wouldn't have the balls" that comes from the fact that sicklucker thought xatalos would give himself away too easily with a team of two players that were more obviously read as town. rayn even said sicklucker was obvious town, and though other players were more doubtful on sicklucker (myself included) from his OWN perspective and especially where sicklucker had a more inflated view of himself as town, this would actually make sense.

If you think about it from sicklucker's perspective it would make sense for town sicklucker to think that a scum xatalos wouldn't have the "balls" to reject a mission and given himself away in a 3-man mission team where the other two were more solidly townread.


Why do you say SL was more solidly townread? Of the people who accepted the mission:

Xatalos - Town read rayn/Xat more than SL
Half the Sky - Town read rayn/Xat more than SL
raynpelikoneet - Town read rayn/Xat more than SL
Artanis - Town read rayn/Xat more than SL

Even if you include the rejects votes, there wasn't a huge amount of SL support.

If anything, this points to a scum Xat wanting to bring along SL as the fall guy, not making a "ballsy move".

Show nested quote +
On November 10 2015 06:31 Half the Sky wrote:
He also said something else to the effect of "oh wait maybe I can trust xata if he put out a team I wanted or a team with him on it or what have you" - again I don't remember full context without opening a thousand tabs on my phone but that was another point in his favour.


You suggest that it is a point in his favor, but I'd say that it suggests he prioritizes self-inclusion over mission success.

Show nested quote +
On November 10 2015 06:31 Half the Sky wrote:
From a meta standpoint, (reference Void, Drams) scum sicklucker is concerned about giving away information on his teammates.


A few other people have already pointed this out, but I don't think this applies very well considering voting no unless he is included has the opposite effect. He doesn't have to worry about his teammate's inclusion at all if he can include himself.


I HAD 4-5 Townreads and 0 scum reads. see artanis chart. The likelyhood of me being scum with 0 scum reads is pretty small. Specifically since im sicklucker... this evidence still stands
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
November 10 2015 16:01 GMT
#2251
On November 11 2015 00:51 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 11 2015 00:03 kitaman27 wrote:
On November 10 2015 06:31 Half the Sky wrote:
First "the scum xata wouldn't have the balls" that comes from the fact that sicklucker thought xatalos would give himself away too easily with a team of two players that were more obviously read as town. rayn even said sicklucker was obvious town, and though other players were more doubtful on sicklucker (myself included) from his OWN perspective and especially where sicklucker had a more inflated view of himself as town, this would actually make sense.

If you think about it from sicklucker's perspective it would make sense for town sicklucker to think that a scum xatalos wouldn't have the "balls" to reject a mission and given himself away in a 3-man mission team where the other two were more solidly townread.


Why do you say SL was more solidly townread? Of the people who accepted the mission:

Xatalos - Town read rayn/Xat more than SL
Half the Sky - Town read rayn/Xat more than SL
raynpelikoneet - Town read rayn/Xat more than SL
Artanis - Town read rayn/Xat more than SL

Even if you include the rejects votes, there wasn't a huge amount of SL support.

If anything, this points to a scum Xat wanting to bring along SL as the fall guy, not making a "ballsy move".

On November 10 2015 06:31 Half the Sky wrote:
He also said something else to the effect of "oh wait maybe I can trust xata if he put out a team I wanted or a team with him on it or what have you" - again I don't remember full context without opening a thousand tabs on my phone but that was another point in his favour.


You suggest that it is a point in his favor, but I'd say that it suggests he prioritizes self-inclusion over mission success.

On November 10 2015 06:31 Half the Sky wrote:
From a meta standpoint, (reference Void, Drams) scum sicklucker is concerned about giving away information on his teammates.


A few other people have already pointed this out, but I don't think this applies very well considering voting no unless he is included has the opposite effect. He doesn't have to worry about his teammate's inclusion at all if he can include himself.


I HAD 4-5 Townreads and 0 scum reads. see artanis chart. The likelyhood of me being scum with 0 scum reads is pretty small. Specifically since im sicklucker... this evidence still stands

The thing is, if you have 5 townreads you by default have three scumreads.
I am fucking sick of this game when people think they can get away with not giving scumreads, and dont realise its really easy for anyone to call 2-3 ppl town and then "idc about the rest".

L2P resistance if you dont know whats wrong with everyone only giving townreads.
table for two on a tv tray
ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
November 10 2015 16:17 GMT
#2252
On November 11 2015 00:46 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2015 19:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
If Shockeyy is town why does he not prove my case on him is wrong?
I have posted it days ago. Why does he not do that?


BECAUSE HE DOESINT GIVE A SHIT

Life?
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9244 Posts
November 10 2015 16:23 GMT
#2253
On November 11 2015 00:46 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2015 19:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
If Shockeyy is town why does he not prove my case on him is wrong?
I have posted it days ago. Why does he not do that?


BECAUSE HE DOESINT GIVE A SHIT


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I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
November 10 2015 16:27 GMT
#2254
I just don't care what rayn has to say about me. Big difference. At the end of the game you're all going to feel really shitty when I come out as town and realize rayn was mafia the whole game.
Life?
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9244 Posts
November 10 2015 16:34 GMT
#2255
On November 11 2015 01:27 ShoCkeyy wrote:
I just don't care what rayn has to say about me. Big difference. At the end of the game you're all going to feel really shitty when I come out as town and realize rayn was mafia the whole game.


Could be. Unfortunately being right is only half the battle.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
November 10 2015 16:36 GMT
#2256
On November 11 2015 01:27 ShoCkeyy wrote:
I just don't care what rayn has to say about me. At the end of the game i'm going to feel really shitty when rayn comes out as town and i realize i have wasted the whole game calling him mafia and doing jack else.

table for two on a tv tray
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21948 Posts
November 10 2015 16:36 GMT
#2257
Tonight I'm at the corpse turnaround party so I'll catch you tomorrow. For now I'll be sheeping rayn on what he wants. I'm not that sure if kita should be on the team, but should the mission fail I'll be having a better look.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21948 Posts
November 10 2015 16:47 GMT
#2258
And it would be cool if Shockey expanded on rayn only handpicking quotes to fit his case. Maybe you could explain that more in depth. This fight between him and rayn is very relevant in this game.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
November 10 2015 16:49 GMT
#2259
Anyways i am most likely going to be away for the rest of the phase. I have tried to make people post their scumreads and reason them, but i am too tired to yell to bricks over and over again. Hopefully one of the townies outside the team that has been nominated realizes the team is all town.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
November 10 2015 16:55 GMT
#2260
Regardless of everything i am going to say if HtS and Shockeyy are both town, this town is never going to win this game. 100%.
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