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On November 10 2015 23:39 Xatalos wrote:Show nested quote +On November 10 2015 22:49 Rels wrote:
Xata, why are you suspicious of me ?
Why are you suspicious of kita ? The NO votes look good for you two, it's just not on the level of a confident townread. Kita for being so vague and non-committal throughout the game, and you because your recent scumgames looked pretty similar to this game too (very active and engaged..). Now that I think about it, though, scum HTS would have had no good reason to put scum Kita into the first team.... So that gives kita a bit more credibility at least.
So is kita scum or not ? If yes can you expand on him being vague ?
Your reason for scumreading me are bad. Is that it ?
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On November 11 2015 00:21 ShoCkeyy wrote:Show nested quote +On November 11 2015 00:10 kitaman27 wrote:On November 09 2015 07:33 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Reason why I say that is because I suggested this team a while back. Not voting yes will look bad on my end anyways If you wanted the team to pass, why did you include that tid bit about how you would have looked bad by rejecting at the end? Uhhhhh I actually did????? That's the fucking problem. None of you read anything lol
I thought you just said you weren't sure the team was going to pass at deadline ? It's hard to follow your thought process.
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Leaving work, going out tonight so see you folks tomorrow (=
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anyways i am srsly off now.
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On November 11 2015 01:59 Rels wrote:
Leaving work, going out tonight so see you folks tomorrow (=
I think we might be scum because i am going out too and we are leaving at the same time.
hmmm....
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On November 11 2015 02:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On November 11 2015 01:59 Rels wrote:
Leaving work, going out tonight so see you folks tomorrow (= I think we might be scum because i am going out too and we are leaving at the same time. hmmm....
Let's party together then. Remember though: no talking about the game!
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On November 11 2015 01:55 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Regardless of everything i am going to say if HtS and Shockeyy are both town, this town is never going to win this game. 100%.
If you're town then stop town reading xata and fucking analyze him.
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On November 10 2015 23:57 ShoCkeyy wrote:
It actually does make sense... I was town reading all of you when asked the question and I was still town reading all of the nominations when it was submitted. I stopped town reading everyone towards the end. I still voted yes because either way it was a team I didn't mind seeing.
This is how I can tell none of you read anything and just skin shit.
But you never actually said this until now. Also, the post about your changing townreads came a while before the deadline still so you had plenty of chance to change your mind. It also suggested that you didn't actually townread most people on the mission anymore; there were 3 people you didn't townread and you still voted yes. Why?
On November 11 2015 00:03 kitaman27 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 10 2015 06:31 Half the Sky wrote:
First "the scum xata wouldn't have the balls" that comes from the fact that sicklucker thought xatalos would give himself away too easily with a team of two players that were more obviously read as town. rayn even said sicklucker was obvious town, and though other players were more doubtful on sicklucker (myself included) from his OWN perspective and especially where sicklucker had a more inflated view of himself as town, this would actually make sense.
If you think about it from sicklucker's perspective it would make sense for town sicklucker to think that a scum xatalos wouldn't have the "balls" to reject a mission and given himself away in a 3-man mission team where the other two were more solidly townread. Why do you say SL was more solidly townread? Of the people who accepted the mission: Xatalos - Town read rayn/Xat more than SL Half the Sky - Town read rayn/Xat more than SL raynpelikoneet - Town read rayn/Xat more than SL Artanis - Town read rayn/Xat more than SL Even if you include the rejects votes, there wasn't a huge amount of SL support. If anything, this points to a scum Xat wanting to bring along SL as the fall guy, not making a "ballsy move". Show nested quote +On November 10 2015 06:31 Half the Sky wrote:
He also said something else to the effect of "oh wait maybe I can trust xata if he put out a team I wanted or a team with him on it or what have you" - again I don't remember full context without opening a thousand tabs on my phone but that was another point in his favour. You suggest that it is a point in his favor, but I'd say that it suggests he prioritizes self-inclusion over mission success. Show nested quote +On November 10 2015 06:31 Half the Sky wrote:
From a meta standpoint, (reference Void, Drams) scum sicklucker is concerned about giving away information on his teammates. A few other people have already pointed this out, but I don't think this applies very well considering voting no unless he is included has the opposite effect. He doesn't have to worry about his teammate's inclusion at all if he can include himself.
Do you draw any conclusions from your observations here?
On November 11 2015 01:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On November 11 2015 00:51 sicklucker wrote:On November 11 2015 00:03 kitaman27 wrote:On November 10 2015 06:31 Half the Sky wrote:
First "the scum xata wouldn't have the balls" that comes from the fact that sicklucker thought xatalos would give himself away too easily with a team of two players that were more obviously read as town. rayn even said sicklucker was obvious town, and though other players were more doubtful on sicklucker (myself included) from his OWN perspective and especially where sicklucker had a more inflated view of himself as town, this would actually make sense.
If you think about it from sicklucker's perspective it would make sense for town sicklucker to think that a scum xatalos wouldn't have the "balls" to reject a mission and given himself away in a 3-man mission team where the other two were more solidly townread. Why do you say SL was more solidly townread? Of the people who accepted the mission: Xatalos - Town read rayn/Xat more than SL Half the Sky - Town read rayn/Xat more than SL raynpelikoneet - Town read rayn/Xat more than SL Artanis - Town read rayn/Xat more than SL Even if you include the rejects votes, there wasn't a huge amount of SL support. If anything, this points to a scum Xat wanting to bring along SL as the fall guy, not making a "ballsy move". On November 10 2015 06:31 Half the Sky wrote:
He also said something else to the effect of "oh wait maybe I can trust xata if he put out a team I wanted or a team with him on it or what have you" - again I don't remember full context without opening a thousand tabs on my phone but that was another point in his favour. You suggest that it is a point in his favor, but I'd say that it suggests he prioritizes self-inclusion over mission success. On November 10 2015 06:31 Half the Sky wrote:
From a meta standpoint, (reference Void, Drams) scum sicklucker is concerned about giving away information on his teammates. A few other people have already pointed this out, but I don't think this applies very well considering voting no unless he is included has the opposite effect. He doesn't have to worry about his teammate's inclusion at all if he can include himself. I HAD 4-5 Townreads and 0 scum reads. see artanis chart. The likelyhood of me being scum with 0 scum reads is pretty small. Specifically since im sicklucker... this evidence still stands The thing is, if you have 5 townreads you by default have three scumreads. I am fucking sick of this game when people think they can get away with not giving scumreads, and dont realise its really easy for anyone to call 2-3 ppl town and then "idc about the rest". L2P resistance if you dont know whats wrong with everyone only giving townreads.
I think he means that he had 4-5 people townreading and no one scumreading him on my chart.
If that's anything to go by though, I should be confirmed town as well given everyone townread me in the start, which also never happens when I'm mafia.
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On November 11 2015 02:09 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On November 10 2015 23:57 ShoCkeyy wrote:
It actually does make sense... I was town reading all of you when asked the question and I was still town reading all of the nominations when it was submitted. I stopped town reading everyone towards the end. I still voted yes because either way it was a team I didn't mind seeing.
This is how I can tell none of you read anything and just skin shit. But you never actually said this until now. Also, the post about your changing townreads came a while before the deadline still so you had plenty of chance to change your mind. It also suggested that you didn't actually townread most people on the mission anymore; there were 3 people you didn't townread and you still voted yes. Why?
I have two people who we're mafia leaning one that was null and one was town and I still voted yes because it was the original team I suggested as well, on top of it, if one of you sabotaged the mission, it obviously would of made my suspicions stronger. If it didn't fail, well then, good job town!
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Also for those who have played with me, you gotta give it up to me for being at least some what active... 7 pages of filter? That's a first for me.
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On November 11 2015 02:14 ShoCkeyy wrote:Show nested quote +On November 11 2015 02:09 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On November 10 2015 23:57 ShoCkeyy wrote:
It actually does make sense... I was town reading all of you when asked the question and I was still town reading all of the nominations when it was submitted. I stopped town reading everyone towards the end. I still voted yes because either way it was a team I didn't mind seeing.
This is how I can tell none of you read anything and just skin shit. But you never actually said this until now. Also, the post about your changing townreads came a while before the deadline still so you had plenty of chance to change your mind. It also suggested that you didn't actually townread most people on the mission anymore; there were 3 people you didn't townread and you still voted yes. Why? I have two people who we're mafia leaning one that was null and one was town and I still voted yes because it was the original team I suggested as well, on top of it, if one of you sabotaged the mission, it obviously would of made my suspicions stronger. If it didn't fail, well then, good job town!
So you voted yes on a team where you had two people mafia leaning, one null and one town.
And you wonder why people scumread you... why exactly?
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On November 11 2015 02:19 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On November 11 2015 02:14 ShoCkeyy wrote:On November 11 2015 02:09 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On November 10 2015 23:57 ShoCkeyy wrote:
It actually does make sense... I was town reading all of you when asked the question and I was still town reading all of the nominations when it was submitted. I stopped town reading everyone towards the end. I still voted yes because either way it was a team I didn't mind seeing.
This is how I can tell none of you read anything and just skin shit. But you never actually said this until now. Also, the post about your changing townreads came a while before the deadline still so you had plenty of chance to change your mind. It also suggested that you didn't actually townread most people on the mission anymore; there were 3 people you didn't townread and you still voted yes. Why? I have two people who we're mafia leaning one that was null and one was town and I still voted yes because it was the original team I suggested as well, on top of it, if one of you sabotaged the mission, it obviously would of made my suspicions stronger. If it didn't fail, well then, good job town! So you voted yes on a team where you had two people mafia leaning, one null and one town. And you wonder why people scumread you... why exactly?
I don't wonder, I was just answering the questions. Also scum reading me won't do anything, it's like Rels said, I'm playing to lose if I was mafia.
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On November 11 2015 02:27 ShoCkeyy wrote:Show nested quote +On November 11 2015 02:19 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On November 11 2015 02:14 ShoCkeyy wrote:On November 11 2015 02:09 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On November 10 2015 23:57 ShoCkeyy wrote:
It actually does make sense... I was town reading all of you when asked the question and I was still town reading all of the nominations when it was submitted. I stopped town reading everyone towards the end. I still voted yes because either way it was a team I didn't mind seeing.
This is how I can tell none of you read anything and just skin shit. But you never actually said this until now. Also, the post about your changing townreads came a while before the deadline still so you had plenty of chance to change your mind. It also suggested that you didn't actually townread most people on the mission anymore; there were 3 people you didn't townread and you still voted yes. Why? I have two people who we're mafia leaning one that was null and one was town and I still voted yes because it was the original team I suggested as well, on top of it, if one of you sabotaged the mission, it obviously would of made my suspicions stronger. If it didn't fail, well then, good job town! So you voted yes on a team where you had two people mafia leaning, one null and one town. And you wonder why people scumread you... why exactly? I don't wonder, I was just answering the questions. Also scum reading me won't do anything, it's like Rels said, I'm playing to lose if I was mafia.
Oh okay, you seem to be resentful and taunting towards people that argue you're scum though. Also, aren't you playing to lose as town as well? You're unlikely to be taken onto any missions which, if you're town, means we need to get all five other townies on the last one.
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On November 11 2015 02:31 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On November 11 2015 02:27 ShoCkeyy wrote:On November 11 2015 02:19 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On November 11 2015 02:14 ShoCkeyy wrote:On November 11 2015 02:09 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On November 10 2015 23:57 ShoCkeyy wrote:
It actually does make sense... I was town reading all of you when asked the question and I was still town reading all of the nominations when it was submitted. I stopped town reading everyone towards the end. I still voted yes because either way it was a team I didn't mind seeing.
This is how I can tell none of you read anything and just skin shit. But you never actually said this until now. Also, the post about your changing townreads came a while before the deadline still so you had plenty of chance to change your mind. It also suggested that you didn't actually townread most people on the mission anymore; there were 3 people you didn't townread and you still voted yes. Why? I have two people who we're mafia leaning one that was null and one was town and I still voted yes because it was the original team I suggested as well, on top of it, if one of you sabotaged the mission, it obviously would of made my suspicions stronger. If it didn't fail, well then, good job town! So you voted yes on a team where you had two people mafia leaning, one null and one town. And you wonder why people scumread you... why exactly? I don't wonder, I was just answering the questions. Also scum reading me won't do anything, it's like Rels said, I'm playing to lose if I was mafia. Oh okay, you seem to be resentful and taunting towards people that argue you're scum though. Also, aren't you playing to lose as town as well? You're unlikely to be taken onto any missions which, if you're town, means we need to get all five other townies on the last one.
Who am I taunting? Rayn? lol... You're trying to pin me things that never happened. I'm also not playing to lose as town, I know who I can trust and when I should vote yes and no. I know my vote really matters because everyone is on me about it.
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ok ive decided xata is the scum and rayn is the town
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nm that was vivaxs not xatas post. still leaning that way tho but rayn is different...
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On November 11 2015 01:27 ShoCkeyy wrote:
I just don't care what rayn has to say about me. Big difference. At the end of the game you're all going to feel really shitty when I come out as town and realize rayn was mafia the whole game.
I'd consider this taunting.
Also, I don't think trying to make you look bad would be something you need any help with. I'm actually not sure between you and rels.
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Capoeira time. Wonder if daniele's going today too 
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On November 11 2015 02:46 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On November 11 2015 01:27 ShoCkeyy wrote:
I just don't care what rayn has to say about me. Big difference. At the end of the game you're all going to feel really shitty when I come out as town and realize rayn was mafia the whole game. I'd consider this taunting. Also, I don't think trying to make you look bad would be something you need any help with. I'm actually not sure between you and rels.
That's the point though, I'm trying to look like scum because what kind of scum would try to look like scum in the game to prove a point?
Also this is for outside of game, how you been man? I would pm you but we're in this game so I don't want to get banned lol, but last time we talked was like 8 years ago in WCG Grand Final 07 if you remember
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On November 11 2015 02:47 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Capoeira time. Wonder if daniele's going today too
Can't. Had to skip today since it's a 11-12 (billable) hour day. >_<
I'll try and answer questions when I return - if I return home on time or after or whenever :/
But since people probably want to know, I upvoted this team.
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