Newbie Student Mafia XVII: Fullmetal Edition - Page 79

On November 22 2015 01:44 Trfel wrote:
Hi.

I've got plans for today. If scum shoots me, we'll all be super happy anyway.

I guess Damdred is just town. Which leaves me to a POE list of Fecalfeast, disformation, and Onegu.

There's quite likely at least one hole in my POE list, some of the points raised against ritoky were pretty good.

I'll take a look this evening, hopefully.

On November 22 2015 02:10 Damdred wrote:
I'm here but will be afkish until after deadline tbh.

if I was scum I would shoot me today then finish me tommorow so I wasn't in lylo with them!

LOL

Mages is a bit odd, his play in general has been pretty towny looking. But the eod is a bit odd, he did start actually pushing trfel on a counter wagon even though I suggested it but he didn't really push that hard either.

Maybe because I was pushing against a trfel lynch. There could be something there but I need to reread him again.

ALSO town points for anyone who will do leg work to look who auto accepted my claim as vet, ignored it and those who were like has to be not true.

On November 19 2015 07:00 NocturneMage wrote:
given timing, I think she's trying to draw out a blue folks. This is something I learnt in newbie 13/14 anyhow. Discuss.

On November 19 2015 08:07 NocturneMage wrote:
on mobile. this is beyond irritating.



no. this is not entirely true. I learnt in nsm14 (the host in the qt mentioned this, unless people here want to say rsoultin is a bad player but somehow I don't think that's the case???) that wifom analysis is powerful. if you are scum and you find a blue, it gives it an easier way for scum to hide because killing blues generally means there's no excuse for certain people to live or not.

additionally the real vet isn't going to claim with 46 hours left in the cycle, piss off, come back and keep saying never lynch an uncounterclaimed blue. you aren't finding scum and your methods don't push town agenda forward in any form.

additionally in a best case scenario town can find the roleblocker first and an unclaimed veteran represents currently a 14% chance of stopping kp.

unless I've fucked up analysis - I find no town motivation for the way you've approached this. I find enough justification for lynching you.

answer me this farah - why did you claim with 46 hours left (an hour ago) in the cycle and why aren't you finding scum?

in your method you wanted to know fecalfeast was vig or not, he said he wasn't. so where does that get you? what is your purpose?

you aren't saying dick all on that.

On November 19 2015 08:39 NocturneMage wrote:


The only other thing I can think of is wait one cycle and if she is still alive lynch her.

I don't understand how or why she isn't moving forward in her world view.

Anyways looking at other people in the meantime since we don't win until all three are dead.

##unvote

fuck this is irritating.

On November 19 2015 07:02 ritoky wrote:


except it implies she knows VE was the vigi shot and not geript. TMI as fuck.

On November 19 2015 07:06 ritoky wrote:


it doesn't make a whole lot of sense. if she's the vigi there's no point to say anything but "i'm the vigi". if she is the doctor she just signed her death warrant. if she's veteran there's a guaranteed roleblocker and in most setups that counters vet protection so she is dead anyway unless we lynch exactly the RB today. if she's mafia being obtuse about it is less encouraging of a cc from blues, but she isn't an auto-lynch atm so claiming this early is.....idk it all just confuses me.

On November 19 2015 07:12 ritoky wrote:


eh she might be blue.....

On November 19 2015 07:13 ritoky wrote:


she is a new player, they are more prone to get ants in their pants and claim stupidly or too early than to make a fake claim that they know will get them into a screaming match w/ 40+ hours left in the day....unless you're me and fake claim cop your 2nd game ever.

On November 19 2015 08:32 ritoky wrote:
the only way i am lynching farah today is if someone cc's her or i hard read someone as doctor. there's literally no other reason to lynch her.

On November 19 2015 07:10 Trfel wrote:
The fact that she claimed, but didn't bother going through MoosyDoosy's case point by point is really, really suspicious.

I know I'm not the only one who asked for that.

Would FarahBlackwing fakeclaim here as town? I would think not, but am I wrong?

On November 19 2015 07:14 Trfel wrote:
I can't see this coming from a person who would fakeclaim here as town. That settles that.

On November 19 2015 07:45 Trfel wrote:
Ugh, I hate being sick, it makes it so hard for me to think T.T

I'm really, really considering lynching FarahBlackwing here.

The only reason for her to claim this early is that she doesn't have enough time to properly defend herself.So she's really busy, but she spent time trying to guess who the vigilante is (of all things) instead of responding to the case? Instead of trying to find mafia?
This is in no way a justification for the time spent.

To me, it almost feels like FarahBlackwing's attempts to find the vigilante were to figure out what the thread influence would look like post-claim, which is useful to know if she's mafia. Especially if she's mafia trying to do something like fakeclaim.

Fecalfeast doesn't have a large amount of thread presence, and imagining for a moment that he became confirmed town by claiming vigilante, I don't think that much would change. Meaning that mafia thread influence would be maximized, encouraging a fakeclaim.

On November 19 2015 08:25 Trfel wrote:
Sure.

##vote FarahBlackwing

On November 19 2015 08:38 Trfel wrote:
But when it's this bad? And when the person claiming is being this malicious?

And right after we saw MoosyDoosy avoid a lynch through martyring?

This simply isn't town play. Giving up a power role for this is not a trade that should even need to happen.

On November 19 2015 07:11 The Shining wrote:


Ya in his post trashing my EoD post he said him geript and you were all town and "everyone know this" implying a hard townread. He also had geript on a town list before then.

But it is interesting that Farrah knows VE was the Vig shot and hard claimed blue. If she were the Vig I don't think she'd be speculating on who the vig is, unless like NM said it was for a gotcha! Cc play. But its too early in the day and risky for it to be a scum play to try and save herself or draw out a blue. Idk I'm confused on this one.

On November 19 2015 07:45 disformation wrote:


Since farah is currently an uncced blue, I would very much like this, too.

On November 19 2015 10:44 disformation wrote:


tinfoil + uncced blue

Other great theories:
She and MD are a scumteam and are competing on how hard they bullshit town into oblivion.

On November 19 2015 10:48 disformation wrote:
Oh, crap.
What if eversince is the real vet and not around to cc?

Also going to stop ranting and grasping at straws like a madmen. Sry for cluttering up the thread...

On November 19 2015 08:19 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Okay Farah is scum lmao. There's little reason to believe her claim. She literally acted scummy as fuck during N1. Like what point is there in doing that as veteran? Best case scenario she's kept around and her role is useless. Worst case scenario vigi shoots her and both roles are wasted. Like hello?

On November 19 2015 08:23 MoosyDoosy wrote:
I'm going to look into Breshke and Trfel. Farah is still scummy as fuck but it would be best to keep her around for one more day and see what she does especially if she's un cc'd.

On November 19 2015 08:25 MoosyDoosy wrote:

No one can Moosy like me. XD She's cute but I can understand why she did what she did if she's actually town.

@FarahBlackwing, answer this one question and I decide whether I want you dead today or not. Why did you claim this early?

On November 19 2015 08:27 MoosyDoosy wrote:

Yeah, this is the biggest problem as I pointed out. She acted so fucking scummy that her role was essentially useless.

On November 19 2015 08:28 MoosyDoosy wrote:

This is coming from the player that says I play like shit in games I sign up for lmao. Oh wellz, my vote's staying where it is.

On November 19 2015 08:33 Fecalfeast wrote:
Ritoky is correct. Even if the claim feels like buttcheeks it's still uncc'd