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ritoky
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The Shining
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On November 21 2015 10:09 ritoky wrote: yo shining, imagine a world i am town (like i did earlier w/ you and cuz it is the real world) what 3 lynches win the game? I just started imagining this world after the disfo stuff I just posted. Disfo, Onegu(this damn question mark), NM. NM is a gut feeling and wouldn't ever go before the other 2. Fecal could also replace NM but I'm really liking him lately. Or maybe Trfel? But after the Breshke flip, I'm pretty sure Trfel is town. Hard defense and pushing off of him on 6-1 is too suicidal. | ||
Fecalfeast
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The Shining
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Fecalfeast
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On November 21 2015 10:15 Fecalfeast wrote: What's the full argument for trfel and breshke being opposite alignments? What I'm getting is that he's too scummy to be scum? | ||
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The Shining
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On November 21 2015 10:11 ritoky wrote: disform's read have been flipping on a dime all game based on thread sentiment; it is nothing new. he is probably just easily influenced town though cuz of the post where he suggested lynching himself early and his sheeping onto breshke day 1. of non-conf town he is the most town in the game; not even close to being close. I mean, isn't that normally a scum tell? It is for me. And he was well aware that he's done it in all his past town games so its not like he can't use that card to his advantage. How early/late did he sheep onto Breshke? I have to check that, cuz a vote is always changeable until EoD. And I'll go reread the post where he suggested lynching himself because he's been pretty much a pass for everyone recently. I'm wondering how genuine that suggestion was. | ||
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disformation
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On November 21 2015 10:14 The Shining wrote: I just started imagining this world after the disfo stuff I just posted. Disfo, Onegu(this damn question mark), NM. NM is a gut feeling and wouldn't ever go before the other 2. Fecal could also replace NM but I'm really liking him lately. Or maybe Trfel? But after the Breshke flip, I'm pretty sure Trfel is town. Hard defense and pushing off of him on 6-1 is too suicidal. The real tinfoil killer team is disformation/MoosyDoosy/ritoky with eversince/onegu as the real vigi. + Show Spoiler + If someone takes that serious I am going to be very not pleased. And when I say I am like a leaf in the wind, I mean it. When I looked at _my_ readprogression of ritoky I looked at _my_ filter for _my_ posts on him. And as I admitted my ritoky read was mostly tonal. So when I looked at his filter _after_ the breshke flip I was able to see some things I wasn't able to see before. | ||
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The Shining
United States2406 Posts
On November 21 2015 10:19 Fecalfeast wrote: What I'm getting is that he's too scummy to be scum? As far as me, pretty much. I don't remember why ritoky said it was 1 or the other but him hard defending Breshke, making a case onto you and getting super upset about being ignored(felt like pretty genuine anger) and literally apologizing for his wrong read on Breshke is just...idk, if you do that as scum, you're begging to be lynched. Unless he wifomd me to all hell with that. | ||
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ritoky
United States6851 Posts
On November 21 2015 10:15 Fecalfeast wrote: What's the full argument for trfel and breshke being opposite alignments? basically in the rules it states: "The homunculli will know which of these is accurate, but members of the State will not." meaning the mafia knew the game setup from the start. this means they knew there was no investigative power. assuming they are players with brains this means hard i expect less hard aligning from mafia. trfel pretty much hard defended breshke day 1; and then on day 2 tried to push off of breshke against an overwhelming majority onto a lynch clearly no1 was getting on board at the time. so pretty much you have to assume they hard aligned after knowing the setup and how it was not beneficial to hard align, then instead of going for credit and lynching his partner he pushed against every town read of his onto someone he thought was scum. there's another point but i forgot it and am getting rdy for work. also his passion when ppl wanted to lynch him are the feelz | ||
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disformation
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On November 21 2015 10:20 The Shining wrote: I mean, isn't that normally a scum tell? It is for me. And he was well aware that he's done it in all his past town games so its not like he can't use that card to his advantage. How early/late did he sheep onto Breshke? I have to check that, cuz a vote is always changeable until EoD. And I'll go reread the post where he suggested lynching himself because he's been pretty much a pass for everyone recently. I'm wondering how genuine that suggestion was. On November 21 2015 05:50 disformation wrote: Added some colour. Went ahead and painted myself green. :p scott31337 (6): MoosyDoosy (4): FarahBlackwing (1): Eversince, Fecalfeast (1): VisceraEyes Breshke (1): geript, The Shining (0): Trfel (0): VisceraEyes (0): mooseydoosey (0): disinformation (0): Breshke (5): Trfel (2): farahblackwing (1): Fecalfeast (1): Trfel farahbackwing (0): Not Voting (2): Breshke, Eversince D2 votes imply that if there was no bussing of the Roleblocker it has to be Trfel and Eversince. Otherwise at least 1 person had to bus. From the timing I would suggest one of the last three votes on Breshke for the bus. 3rd D1 on Breskhe 1st/2nd on D2, depending on how you count Farah | ||
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The Shining
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Those are pretty early solid votes on Bresh, though... | ||
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ritoky
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On November 21 2015 10:20 The Shining wrote: I mean, isn't that normally a scum tell? It is for me. And he was well aware that he's done it in all his past town games so its not like he can't use that card to his advantage. How early/late did he sheep onto Breshke? I have to check that, cuz a vote is always changeable until EoD. And I'll go reread the post where he suggested lynching himself because he's been pretty much a pass for everyone recently. I'm wondering how genuine that suggestion was. Normally it is a scum tell yes. But he is a new player right? And haven't like all other new players subbed out of this game so this is basically a 0 newbie game? I can see being swayed. Idk, maybe...it is just hard for me to see many new players have the gusto to suggest lynching themselves immediately. And he was very quick onto breshke...also kinda quick off too. | ||
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The Shining
United States2406 Posts
On November 21 2015 10:22 ritoky wrote: basically in the rules it states: "The homunculli will know which of these is accurate, but members of the State will not." meaning the mafia knew the game setup from the start. this means they knew there was no investigative power. assuming they are players with brains this means hard i expect less hard aligning from mafia. trfel pretty much hard defended breshke day 1; and then on day 2 tried to push off of breshke against an overwhelming majority onto a lynch clearly no1 was getting on board at the time. so pretty much you have to assume they hard aligned after knowing the setup and how it was not beneficial to hard align, then instead of going for credit and lynching his partner he pushed against every town read of his onto someone he thought was scum. there's another point but i forgot it and am getting rdy for work. also his passion when ppl wanted to lynch him are the feelz The other point was how hard he kept pushing onto an unCCd blue in Farrah | ||
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Fecalfeast
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The Shining
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On November 21 2015 10:28 ritoky wrote: Normally it is a scum tell yes. But he is a new player right? And haven't like all other new players subbed out of this game so this is basically a 0 newbie game? I can see being swayed. Idk, maybe...it is just hard for me to see many new players have the gusto to suggest lynching themselves immediately. And he was very quick onto breshke...also kinda quick off too. Iirc this is his 5th or 6th game? So that does make sense. But if he were scum, it would be his first game. This is def reaching but you never know if he was overwhelmed by rolling scum and took a gambit with suggesting we lynch him. That's not something I can ever tell or prove tho. Like, his waffliness only makes me waffle on him so hard. It's a vicious cycle. =/ | ||
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disformation
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On November 21 2015 10:32 The Shining wrote: Iirc this is his 5th or 6th game? So that does make sense. But if he were scum, it would be his first game. This is def reaching but you never know if he was overwhelmed by rolling scum and took a gambit with suggesting we lynch him. That's not something I can ever tell or prove tho. Like, his waffliness only makes me waffle on him so hard. It's a vicious cycle. =/ This is my 4th game.  | ||
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Fecalfeast
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The Shining
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On November 21 2015 10:32 Fecalfeast wrote: NM/ever/trfel are the easy, low hanging fruit since none of them voted breshke. If we ignore ever for the moment because she obviously missed the entire day rather than consciously voting off wagon AND we go with the trfel is hard aligning with scum and therefore not scum, there HAS to be scum on breshke's wagon. Which leaves shining and ritoky and disform. YUCK Or you =D What if its one bus and one off wagon? | ||
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