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Trfel
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MoosyDoosy
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On November 18 2015 13:07 Trfel wrote: I'm getting pretty sick of geript this game. hi Trfel o/ hang around for a bit please. And geript is town. | ||
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Trfel
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On November 18 2015 13:09 MoosyDoosy wrote: At this point I barely care if geript is town or not, I don't want to deal with him at all.hi Trfel o/ hang around for a bit please. And geript is town. All he's saying is that I'm bad, no reasoning. He's discrediting me without explaining why, he's not trying to work with me at all. I've responded to the few points he's actually raised, which he's promptly ignored. I can't stand playing with people who refuse to work with me. And geript is a huge example of that. | ||
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MoosyDoosy
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1. disformation is way too self conscious. I realize that this can be interpreted as a newbie town trait, but the extent to which disformation keeps tabs on his appearance and of his own meta is super overboard for even a newbie. Just taking a look at EoD1 shows this self consciousness. + Show Spoiler + On November 18 2015 02:02 disformation wrote: welcome to disformation town play. I am calling myself waffleboy for a reason.  A pity tunneltock is hosting this and not playing. We make a great team. xD Still finishing up on MoosyDoosy. Probably The Shining and Farah after that. The thing is: I can see a bunch of ppl getting like 1 free day (Eversince, The Shining, MoosyDoosy, scott), depending on the lynch of course and that worries me a bit because we have huge potential for maffay just coasting by. On November 18 2015 03:06 disformation wrote: Shit. I really need to get into the habit of drawing conclusions. Was skimming Breshke's filter and didn't get too suspicious. Taking a closer look at stuff like this raises some red flags. Will look more closely, if I find more of this I might find it in me to vote for him. I have played 1-2 games with breshke but I found him to be rather unmemorable, which probably means I didn't have enough interactions with him, which will make it hard for me to compare this to his normal game. Now the very interesting thing about the people that disformation listed in the quotes (Eversince, Shining, Moosy, scott), is that I think they're all town and scott was confirmed as town. This makes me interpret disformation's slight push onto these people as a way to divert attention away from others and from himself. The VERY interesting thing is how disformation forms these slight pushes. He always makes posts that only lean and never push, creating sentiment but never putting him directly under anyone's crosshairs. 2. disformation also refused to take any stances for EoD1. First he votes for Shining on the basis of "pressure". + Show Spoiler + On November 17 2015 20:29 disformation wrote: The lack ofproper trains like 8 hours b4 deadline also worries me. shining wasnt here in ages... maybe setting him on blast will change this... ##unvote ##vote The Shining voting on phone sucks Then he seemed happy enough to vote for me. + Show Spoiler + On November 17 2015 22:03 disformation wrote: wow. dealine in 7hours and town has no clue to lynch. i wish i was good at this game and had a solid scum read... defaulting to moosy for now. will try to figure out something when i am back on a pc. ##unvote ##vote MoosyDoosy Then he votes for Breshke. + Show Spoiler + On November 18 2015 03:23 disformation wrote: Hmm... Great post for mafia to make. Also despite having some interactions with his scum reads, he never re-evaluates his reads. Only thing he does is slightly adjusting his lynch order. And he justifies his reason for the MD vote with something someoneelse came up with: I am also not sure where his town reads are at... he had a town lean on eversince very early and put town near the names of ritoky and geript but adds some doubt since these two are good players and could pull this as mafia. So he has like 0 genuine town reads to three ppl he would lynch. Not feeling a town agenda here... ##unvote ##vote Breshke Then there's his vote on scott. + Show Spoiler + On November 18 2015 04:53 disformation wrote: *sigh* well... we need to consolidate and the scott filter is still bad. ##unvote ##vote Scott31337 Interesting how it's pretty clear that scott is going to be lynched at this point, but disformation is reluctant to lynch scott all of a sudden out of all the people he's been wanting to lynch. 3. disformation's slight pushes onto people are all based on thread sentiment. When people were voting my annoying butt, disformation happily joined in at that time. Then geript posted his defense of me and only a few posts later disformation decides that all of a sudden I'm likely to be town: + Show Spoiler + On November 18 2015 02:44 disformation wrote: So... Moosy: Agree that his bounce back was rather townish. Scott: I still don't like his filter very much. But my gut doesn't agree with lynching him... and you are right, this thread is awfully quiet. Also in the game we lynched Scott D1 he basically just gave up and rolled over. This time he is at least trying to catch up... The Shining: I think I posted before that I am okay with giving him one Day, but he has to put in a lot of work D2. Hmm... Breshke... tbh he is a bit under the radar for me... filter diving him now. Then he goes on to support geript's push onto Breshke in this series of posts. + Show Spoiler + On November 18 2015 02:44 disformation wrote: So... Moosy: Agree that his bounce back was rather townish. Scott: I still don't like his filter very much. But my gut doesn't agree with lynching him... and you are right, this thread is awfully quiet. Also in the game we lynched Scott D1 he basically just gave up and rolled over. This time he is at least trying to catch up... The Shining: I think I posted before that I am okay with giving him one Day, but he has to put in a lot of work D2. Hmm... Breshke... tbh he is a bit under the radar for me... filter diving him now. On November 18 2015 03:00 disformation wrote: When did breshke eliminate FF as a target? Last mention of his read on FF is imo: On November 18 2015 03:03 disformation wrote: Which FF answered the next page... No comment from Breshke... On November 18 2015 03:06 disformation wrote: Shit. I really need to get into the habit of drawing conclusions. Was skimming Breshke's filter and didn't get too suspicious. Taking a closer look at stuff like this raises some red flags. Will look more closely, if I find more of this I might find it in me to vote for him. I have played 1-2 games with breshke but I found him to be rather unmemorable, which probably means I didn't have enough interactions with him, which will make it hard for me to compare this to his normal game. On November 18 2015 03:07 disformation wrote: To spell it out: Breshke now on the lower end of null, will look at his filter some more. On November 18 2015 03:23 disformation wrote: Hmm... Great post for mafia to make. Also despite having some interactions with his scum reads, he never re-evaluates his reads. Only thing he does is slightly adjusting his lynch order. And he justifies his reason for the MD vote with something someoneelse came up with: I am also not sure where his town reads are at... he had a town lean on eversince very early and put town near the names of ritoky and geript but adds some doubt since these two are good players and could pull this as mafia. So he has like 0 genuine town reads to three ppl he would lynch. Not feeling a town agenda here... ##unvote ##vote Breshke On November 18 2015 04:30 disformation wrote: Added my stuff on Breshke. There's the association with Farah where he seems very comfortable to associate himself with her when she's just a "null read". I can add the part where he's sucking up to geript the whole time he's doing this but I feel this is more NAI. It's just that I have severe trauma from my first ever game of Mafia which places me on the alert whenever I feel the presence of pocketing/sucking up. + Show Spoiler + On November 18 2015 03:47 disformation wrote: Fair enough.  I tried keeping notes on important/sketchy/whatever posts in my first two games, but found that these lists take too much time to keep up to date and end up huge so they don't actually help but steal time... Also announcing that you are going to make lists/spreadsheets and not delivering might bite one in the ass. xD Or do you have notes on the metas of different players? That would be interesting. Maybe I just need to figure out some clever formatting for such lists, or make them easier to maintain in some way... kinda ranting now, sry. On November 18 2015 03:48 disformation wrote: This will probably end with a wild flailing about and switcheroo game like 30mins - 15mins to the deadline I fear.  Nobody seems to be here. -.- On November 18 2015 03:57 disformation wrote: Will try and remember this for when I am able to identify accurate meta reads. 4. coolio, now for the fun part. disformation's weird af reads on me. Ahhh, the beauty of playing like a b**ch D1 in order to get all the reads. disformation makes a very good observation that I switched my read on him out of nowhere. + Show Spoiler + On November 18 2015 01:52 disformation wrote:
Still not to sure about that huge change in his read on me... though willingness to reevaluate reads is more town in my book... Then I do this weird read change: + Show Spoiler + On November 18 2015 08:16 MoosyDoosy wrote: Good bye again. disformation and FarahBlackwing are scum. I want them to answer these questions. But disformation's immediate reaction is to defend himself and not realize that I changed my read on him yet again. + Show Spoiler + On November 18 2015 08:57 disformation wrote: *sigh* Keeping this short since my spirits are kinda low and I am getting tired. MoosyDoosy You are like 66% town and 100% annoying. Your tone after your tantrum shifted towards a more reasonable one, which I attributed with town. Currently you are looking at EoD stuff and re-evaluation your reads, which is town, too. I think I posted a few thoughts on you during the EoD time or leading up to it. To lazy to look for them right now. Never finished that filter dive though, cause I got distracted by the thread. Btw: No idea what is supposed to be wrong/right/whatever here. Could you elaborate? Trfel Thought he was town before all the EoD stuff happened. Need to look at it again and re-evaluate. Not sure if I'll be able to get that done before EoN though. Farah Null. Again wasn't able to finish the filter dive cause stuff kept happening. geript b4 EoD I would have said 90% town with a 10% chance of being a mafia mastermind. To me he looks genuinely pissed that we didn't make the Breshke lynch happen. So would prolly upgrade to 99% town or something. Don't take the exact values for more than they are though. Instead, he uses emotion in order to try and appeal to me. Psychologically, Mafia is always on the defensive as they naturally feel the need to defend themselves when not necessary. Overall, I strongly feel that these points show that disformation is Mafia. He is way too self conscious, only sheeps thread sentiment, flipped his vote and refused to take hard stances, and his read on me makes no sense. | ||
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Breshke
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Moosey do you think I am town or mafia? | ||
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Trfel
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I don't think that those posts show that disinformation is too self-conscious and defensive. Also, disformation has been very active, he currently has the longest filter in the game. You're right in that the way he finally ends up voting for scott31337 looks really suspicious, that doesn't match his earlier posting. That really stands out to me. I'll let disformation speak for himself. | ||
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Breshke
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There's the association with Farah where he seems very comfortable to associate himself with her when she's just a "null read". Do you mean you think they are mafia together or that he is treating farah as town even though he said its a null read because he knows they are town. | ||
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MoosyDoosy
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On November 18 2015 13:36 Breshke wrote: Also when you say Do you mean you think they are mafia together or that he is treating farah as town even though he said its a null read because he knows they are town. Farah is Mafia. I have a stronger read on Farah than disformation. | ||
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Breshke
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On November 18 2015 02:00 FarahBlackwing wrote: ##Unvote ##Vote disinformation Actually this might be the right way to go today, we can discuss scott/moos during he night and see how we want our vig/cop to act in that regard. But disinformation isn't committing to anything, hes keeping his options open to see which way the wind is going to blow so that he can conceivably go with thread sentiment. His last two posts have set him up so that he can sheep either side as he has doubts about both. Its interesting to say the least. What do you think of this then moosey? I have some thoughts but want to see what you say first | ||
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MoosyDoosy
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On November 18 2015 13:47 Breshke wrote: What do you think of this then moosey? I have some thoughts but want to see what you say first wow congrats for pulling up something in my case that I just accidentally lost! go to filter and look at the very next post after that. | ||
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Trfel
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On November 18 2015 13:50 MoosyDoosy wrote: ROFL XDwow congrats for pulling up something in my case that I just accidentally lost! go to filter and look at the very next post after that. Hahahaha, you made my night  | ||
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Breshke
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On November 18 2015 02:03 NocturneMage wrote: Did you read ritoky's evaluation on him? I responded to it, but we all agreed there are a combination of scum and town tells. Are you seeing the (any) town side of anything he's doing? On November 18 2015 02:38 FarahBlackwing wrote: Yes I could very well be wrong and he did have some towny posts. I'm just not sure if I 100% want to lynch between scott and moos. Breshke might be a good alternative, reading geripts post now. But for now ##Unvote Yeah i was going to say that her next post is such a weak back off considering the post she is responding to is NM's and im not sure how that makes her change her read. | ||
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geript
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On November 18 2015 04:21 Trfel wrote: Wait, what the heck? This push onto Breshke is so mafia-motivated. I don't trust geript at all here. Look at scott31337's townread of geript. He just says that geript is a top town. Notice that he repeatedly says "Trfel could be scum or he could be town" in response to me solving the game and pushing my ideas. He never describes any difference between me and geript, just uses the fact that I had one good game as scum to avoid townreading me. But geript is better than me at mafia, by far, and scott31337 knows this. It's impossible for him not to know that geript is extremely skilled as mafia. So now geript comes up with this push out of nowhere to prevent scott31337 from being lynched? I don't like this one bit. So let's talk about this again Trfel. Explain this shit right now. Because quite frankly you've literally make a bunch of cases that are a combination of "full of shit," "semantics over literally nothing," or "flat out wrong." Plus, you've diverted away from a good lynch in favor of a mediocre lynch for completely bs reasons. | ||
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MoosyDoosy
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1. First things first. Weird gambit at the start of the game Yes I am bringing this up again. If we look at Farah’s game prior to this one, she is definitely not the sort of player to be making strange gambits and instead highly criticized my own play from last game for acting strange and essentially anti-town (much like what I did here but slightly worse). Seeing this, it immediately struck me as different from her usual play. However, this can be explained in and of itself as beginning of Day, etc, etc. BUT what comes after is her very weird explanation for her strange play. + Show Spoiler + On November 16 2015 05:38 FarahBlackwing wrote: Because game was boring and at least tried to generate some content. I'll pressure until I get a read one way or another. And then I shall go forward accordingly Farah is stating that she was being serious about her post in order to draw reactions. As a result, the excuse of D1 can’t be used here. However, her post was exactly the third post in the thread, so how could she have thought that the thread was boring? Obviously there would be no content when the game JUST started. What’s stranger after this is how she immediately backs out of her situation with the following posts: + Show Spoiler + On November 16 2015 05:58 FarahBlackwing wrote: ##unvote Ok I have my read now. Why shouldn't I dos something earlto try to obtain any type of formative reads or understanding when everyone was just saying hi. Farah is attempting to get out of the situation by saying she got her read while simultaneously flinging mud at everyone pushing on her. This is a typical way to try and discredit someone to make them feel like shit in order to get them off of your back. Now, let’s say we listen to what Farah said about taking the initiative and trying to make the game productive and leaping right in. However, you have to ask the following question. Would someone who took the “initiative” and went ahead to try and push the game forwards say that they “don’t care” about the game? + Show Spoiler + On November 17 2015 08:38 FarahBlackwing wrote: Then your vote where your idea is instead of doing the opposite of what you said you would do. And not sure what you are referring to with the like Damdred thing and putting my gender in quotation marks. I really do not care if I am eliminated at this stage. Farah tried to portray herself as someone that cared about the game and pushed it forwards by testing reactions. But this contradicts what she says later about not caring about the game! She is trying to put on two acts but fails to do so. 2. Gives a ton of advice on roles but then says their use is bad. Farah gives a TON of advice on how roles should be used and is essentially the first and main person in the thread to advocate for a cop/vig on me. + Show Spoiler + On November 17 2015 09:22 FarahBlackwing wrote: Sure he could, but shoot him/cop check him instead of using a lynch on him if you are so inclined. On November 18 2015 01:17 FarahBlackwing wrote: You deal with people like moos the same way every game, you cop check him or you shoot him and spend d1 on other players. ##Vote Scott31337 We can point to the other games moos has played and compare them to some degree and yes his anger here is somewhat close to what it was when he bussed his whole team. However he has a clear objective in this game which is to push me, he cares very little for his survivor and is pushing for himself to be lynched to an extent which probably will come to fruition. While its not necessarily a good heuristic it does exist that mafia players (moos included) like to survive, especially someone like moos who likes playing as mafia. In his last mafia game from what I can understand he did show anger martyr but when pressure slowly left him he continued to try to survive and push his team mate, and at some points just leaving the thread. Here whats his plan exactly? To push me care very little for his survival and fuck off. It seems more like a town not really caring that he rolled town rather than a mafia who wants to survive the day phase. As to my vote on scott, I think hes quite possibly the best choice today. I do not have a huge lead as to who I think is the scummiest but i'm willing to listen to other cases currently but between scott and moos I would pick scott. On November 18 2015 02:00 FarahBlackwing wrote: ##Unvote ##Vote disinformation Actually this might be the right way to go today, we can discuss scott/moos during he night and see how we want our vig/cop to act in that regard. But disinformation isn't committing to anything, hes keeping his options open to see which way the wind is going to blow so that he can conceivably go with thread sentiment. His last two posts have set him up so that he can sheep either side as he has doubts about both. Its interesting to say the least. On November 18 2015 04:40 FarahBlackwing wrote: Just let the vig cop fgure moos (who I think is town) and scott out (who I think might be scum). I think its the right thing to do and just vote breshke out who has done scummy things as well. All these are posts showing that Farah stated the best use of roles was on me/scott. Then all of a sudden she changes what she says and decides that using a role on me is a waste. + Show Spoiler + On November 18 2015 04:55 FarahBlackwing wrote: I'd check on moss and a shot elsewhere depending. I think moos is likely town so I think both are wastes but the thread doesn't. After having advocated for role usage on me for so long all of a sudden she says that it’s a waste and blames it on the thread? She already knows the outcome of what that check will be and is buying easy cred from it. 3. Now let’s back up and go to her read on me. Farah gave me a ton of shit for acting the way I did in the last game and was one of the main people pushing for my lynch. Now we look here and she gives me a free and easy townread with very little thought behind it. Let’s look at the post where she explains her read: + Show Spoiler + On November 18 2015 01:17 FarahBlackwing wrote: You deal with people like moos the same way every game, you cop check him or you shoot him and spend d1 on other players. ##Vote Scott31337 We can point to the other games moos has played and compare them to some degree and yes his anger here is somewhat close to what it was when he bussed his whole team. However he has a clear objective in this game which is to push me, he cares very little for his survivor and is pushing for himself to be lynched to an extent which probably will come to fruition. While its not necessarily a good heuristic it does exist that mafia players (moos included) like to survive, especially someone like moos who likes playing as mafia. In his last mafia game from what I can understand he did show anger martyr but when pressure slowly left him he continued to try to survive and push his team mate, and at some points just leaving the thread. Here whats his plan exactly? To push me care very little for his survival and fuck off. It seems more like a town not really caring that he rolled town rather than a mafia who wants to survive the day phase. As to my vote on scott, I think hes quite possibly the best choice today. I do not have a huge lead as to who I think is the scummiest but i'm willing to listen to other cases currently but between scott and moos I would pick scott. Her rationale for town reading me is that I try harder when I’m Mafia and don’t when I’m town. Looking at how things turned out for N1, I’m interested in seeing how she’ll read me now and exactly why she gave me such an easy pass while even people like NocturneMage, Trfel, and FecalFeast were struggling over my alignment for a bit. She was so confident in my alignment to the extent that she didn’t even feel the need to vote for me. 4. Says she doesn’t care for whether scott dies then expresses regret later on. Like what? First Farah says she doesn’t care whether scott dies or not and even goes so far as to push for his lynch. + Show Spoiler + On November 18 2015 04:48 FarahBlackwing wrote: ##Unvote ##Vote Scott31337 Fine I don't care between the two, the posts towards VE are decent. And the lack of anything scott is doing even when hes on the lynch list is worse then when he normally plays. On November 18 2015 04:52 FarahBlackwing wrote: All we need is a ritoky or a disformation switch and scott is the lynch. Then she expresses sadness for the lynch right before it goes down? This is the easiest way for Mafia to buy town cred. + Show Spoiler + On November 18 2015 05:00 FarahBlackwing wrote: scotts probably flipping town -_- 5. Her back off on disformation was super super weak. After advocating for so much role usage on me and scott, she decides that disformation is the best lynch. + Show Spoiler + On November 18 2015 02:00 FarahBlackwing wrote: ##Unvote ##Vote disinformation Actually this might be the right way to go today, we can discuss scott/moos during he night and see how we want our vig/cop to act in that regard. But disinformation isn't committing to anything, hes keeping his options open to see which way the wind is going to blow so that he can conceivably go with thread sentiment. His last two posts have set him up so that he can sheep either side as he has doubts about both. Its interesting to say the least. Then in the very next post of hers, she decides that she was wrong and decides to sheep geript's push onto Breshke. Like...hello? + Show Spoiler + On November 18 2015 02:38 FarahBlackwing wrote: Yes I could very well be wrong and he did have some towny posts. I'm just not sure if I 100% want to lynch between scott and moos. Breshke might be a good alternative, reading geripts post now. But for now ##Unvote 6. Lies about Breshke Yes, her attempt to push onto Breshke was terrible and false. + Show Spoiler + On November 18 2015 02:50 FarahBlackwing wrote: Actually I have rethought my position on breshke. ##Vote Breshke There were two or so moments when something struck me as odd reading the filter, both were interactions between breshke and his supposed scum reads in FF (who he said he would lynch) and then moos. In both situations previously says he scum reads them but asks them questions and has no follow up on those questions and even if the person retorts or responds in a town sort of way he just puts them back in the ignore pile. No real explanation of the progress over eliminating FF (who was breshkes scum read earlier but said his filter wasn't that bad earlier than that) eliminating VE and some of the others. Just settling on the target of moos. If you take a look at Breshke’s filter, he’s actually been consistently on the same people so her vote onto Breshke is opportunistic. Overall, I'm 99.999% Farah is Mafia. There were actually like 1 or 2 more points where she made more contradictions but I forget them and I'm tired after writing this twice. | ||
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Breshke
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At the moment I think there is scum in the people who attempted to sheep geripts case on me. On November 18 2015 02:50 FarahBlackwing wrote: Actually I have rethought my position on breshke. ##Vote Breshke There were two or so moments when something struck me as odd reading the filter, both were interactions between breshke and his supposed scum reads in FF (who he said he would lynch) and then moos. In both situations previously says he scum reads them but asks them questions and has no follow up on those questions and even if the person retorts or responds in a town sort of way he just puts them back in the ignore pile. No real explanation of the progress over eliminating FF (who was breshkes scum read earlier but said his filter wasn't that bad earlier than that) eliminating VE and some of the others. Just settling on the target of moos. This is weak as fuck. I don't recall any times that I didn't follow up on a moosey question and fairly sure the only time I didn't follow up with FF was because he was when I asked him to give a scott read but at the time he was filter diving someone else and when he eventually did I was already gone and FF isn't exactly around that often. Also i didn't settle on moosey I had been saying he was scum and the fake anger from him (which he ahs confirmed as being fake) DID remind me from the previous game where he was scum. This is just geripts meta case but written in a different way and passed off as her own. It is over explained and it could have jsut been a "yeah geript is right' but Farah felt the need to over justify this read. There is also a stage where Farah talks about using the PR on moosey to deal with him which i had explained was a terrible idea in my filter which she had apprently just analysed yet failed to take into account when making that comment. I'm running out of time and also have opinions on disformation and agree with a lot of mooseys last post. Also stuff about Geripts meta read but I need to go to work again soon. Basically I'm not sure if geripts meta read is shit or if my play has just been crap because of exams and working late shifts ruining my ability to wake up early when everyone is around because geripts read on me sounds like he is calling me shit town I.E not doing anything. I don't think he is mafia. Geript how confident in your meta read on meare you really when I have 2/20 mafia games in the database. All you have to base your shit on is town games. | ||
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But I would STRONGLY urge a Farah lynch over a disformation one. | ||
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geript
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On November 18 2015 04:23 Trfel wrote: Look at geript's read on scott31337. It's all association, there is no response to the actual case on him. Geript is avoiding defending scott31337's play, because he knows that it can't be done. All association? No. I quite frankly referred to this post + Show Spoiler + On November 17 2015 14:42 scott31337 wrote: I apologize for my last post - I got enough energy to notepad. I'm town. Weak. This is the Breshke I know I thought from his first post - He's thinking about the game and townie thoughts. arr.. And my virtual townleans have not said anything (Geript, etc.) So I think I'm fooled at least by one. I'm going to sleep - at Page 30 of Ritoky's wall of text. I've had a lot to drink and calling it a night. I'll continue from there. Trfel's been trying but like I said - could be his scummy cases he's done it before Fuck Moosy and his lazy ass town game We will not have it. Geript fell the fuck off once he got townleaned NM has been playing his towngame I'll be up in about 12 hours and bitch that I'm not online and posting. Well suck it I was busy helping out my cousin that I just found out had MS. On November 18 2015 00:55 Trfel wrote: ##vote scott31337 I won't be able to catch up by the deadline. But scott31337 hasn't shown critical thinking, and his activity has been pretty awful. This post shows a lack of critical thinking in particular, he's trying to say stuff, trying to make an argument, but all he really says is that MoosyDoosy is town because he's town, and because he did the same thing last game as town (which obviously does not make him town). Scott31337 still hasn't taken a stance on me, despite saying that he would many hours ago. Given the lack of original reads and thinking in his posts, I find him getting so upset at MoosyDoosy's play difficult to believe. What the fuck is to respond to here that wasn't already in my summary. I noted that the above quoted scott post was decent which negates the critical thinking thing. Scott's activity being awful is by no means alignment indicative. Trfel's jumping on him for 1 post that's lacked critical thinking. On that run Trfel should absolutely be lynched because Trfel hasn't had 1 good post that requires actual thought. Trfel is literally just picking at minor things that don't matter and aren't alignment indicative. Scott not taking a stance on Trfel is literally irrelevant. Trfel's "case" on scott isn't a case. It's not even a set of good points against scott. Trfel should 100% be shot tonight period. | ||
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On November 18 2015 04:24 ritoky wrote: i think you're town, but w/o reading i don't really have reason to think breshke is mafia outside of not TRing him...where is the reasons? This is pretty odd because in a short time frame a town buddy will generally sheep a good player who's a townread to vote for someone who isn't a town read. | ||
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