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The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
November 15 2015 21:18 GMT
#305
On November 16 2015 06:14 The Shining wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2015 06:11 Eversince wrote:
On November 16 2015 06:02 Eversince wrote:
On November 16 2015 05:48 The Shining wrote:
On November 16 2015 05:42 VisceraEyes wrote:
On November 16 2015 05:38 The Shining wrote:
On November 16 2015 05:33 VisceraEyes wrote:
On November 16 2015 05:13 Eversince wrote:
On November 16 2015 05:04 FarahBlackwing wrote:
Hello. I think the proper use of our time is

##vote shining

Statistically it has to be time


100% townread based on nothing last game I play with you.


Last game: Farah town, hard read based on not much, Shining obvious town.
This game: Farah ?, Shining mafia.

180 in gameplay = 180 in alignment

Obviously mafia.

##vote: Farahblackwing

Soooo mafia. Lynch today!

I actually like this a lot.

##Vote: Farahblackwing


What about it do you like? I see a short meta read based off of one newbie game, from a newbie. I wouldn't be nearly this confident in meta reading someone after just one game. And how do you know its even accurate? Did you check the last game or are you just blindly trusting to get on a wagon here?

I don't care if it's accurate - if they're mafia and lying someone will come in and say "Hey that's a lie" and I'll reevaluate then. At this point I'm taking the short meta read at face value, assuming it's true and taking the attempt as a townie attempt to find mafia - one that has possibly borne fruit.

So no, I'm not just "blindly" jumping on a wagon. I like this particular wagon for the reasons given and I like the person who started it, as indicated in my post.


So in other words, you're being lazy and following the word of someone that you've never played with before about someone youve never played with before. Got it.

Now if I go and say that I have a meta read on Eversince because as scum last game she just enters the thread and finds the scummiest looking thing she can and just hammers it into oblivion, which I think she could be doing here, what would you make of that? I want to see more than a short meta read on one person and no talk of other players before I even remotely believe she is town.


I came into thread picking at Kelsier for the argument between him and Moosy. Since I was mafia that game, I knew both where town, but what else to pick at? They had filled several pages of the game with useless rambling. How can you even say I hammered it into the ground? I dropped my Kelsier read in the following night phase. I only held on to Moosy because his lack of content provided an excuse to my mafia self to chase after.

I did play with Farah last game. You basically posted nothing for 80% of the game. She had an irreversible town read on you from early D1. So much so, I wish you HAD been mafia that game. Because if it had been you and not Vonthin, mafia would have easily won that game by killing Rels, and leaving you, Farah, and GB alive for lylo. Because Farah would not have voted you from D1 that game. I mentioned as much in QT about night kills because if Vonthin was left with Farah/Shining he would loss because neither would vote the other over him.

Other than that point, I see nothing wrong with he's done other than ploy at a sarcastical comment I made an hour into this game. Which you point that he hasn't a need to make it. That's true. But don't try to say that I'm playin' my mafia meta because I poke fun early into the game.


4 minutes ago. How am I gone again? Also yeh, I will be vacant most of the following day. I said in pre-game I hurt myself badly. I had a surgery last night, another one in about 3 and a half hours, and a third after that, whenever I show stable again. Sorry the doctors won't pump me full of so much anesthesia, while inflicting massive amounts of trauma, to kill me to do it all at once.

Fishy.


Meh feel better then. I also wrote that post before I saw your post responding to me so its pretty much moot now. The Farrah vote post was the most recent post in your filter when I posted.


And I'll admit that sounded super insincere. Sorry, got a little too into the game. Really do wish you a speedy recovery, and good luck on the surgery.
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
November 15 2015 21:22 GMT
#311
On November 16 2015 06:19 geript wrote:
Also if trfel hasn't said at least 1 smart thing by tomorrow we kill him.


I like this. Trfels entrance was a one liner asking you to explain your read. And the posts are worryingly short. Is this the same Trfel that likes to post crazy WoT to start games and do stuff to get conversation and reads going? Because that is the town Trfel I know and this isn't him.
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
November 15 2015 21:25 GMT
#314
On November 16 2015 06:21 Eversince wrote:
I mentioned in my earlier post, Viscera is null. He sheeped a random vote I made an hour into this game. If he does squat else followin', I'll take issue. Right now I've already mentioned that, while currently not useful, his post don't seem to push him either way.

I haven't,and won't until I get a much better base on people, use meta. I do assume that a WHOLE BUNCH of people do. I've read a number of games on this site. I don't understand everything, but under the assumption that I found him in a few old games on the Team Liquid database, he is one who uses meta.

On those standards, he's not done anything to make him tilt scales. Time will tell...


But your scumread on Farrah is a metaread?? You said her gameplay here was a 180 from her gameplay last game, which meant 180 in alignment. Correct me if I'm wrong but that's a clear meta read. So how could you say you haven't and won't use meta?
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
November 15 2015 21:29 GMT
#318
On November 16 2015 06:24 Eversince wrote:
Also, how was my second paragraph irrelevant. Just be realistic, assume I wasn't entirely feeding the pigeons corn, and understand I was tryin' to appear townish that game. So I was picking at things that I would find questionable as town. You didn't have much of anything until D3? to justify her read on you. Why the 180 now?



Because it was a lot of info and talk about a past game, which has no meaning in this game. Unless you're using it to try and meta her now. Are you?
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
November 15 2015 21:31 GMT
#321
On November 16 2015 06:28 Eversince wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2015 06:25 The Shining wrote:
On November 16 2015 06:21 Eversince wrote:
I mentioned in my earlier post, Viscera is null. He sheeped a random vote I made an hour into this game. If he does squat else followin', I'll take issue. Right now I've already mentioned that, while currently not useful, his post don't seem to push him either way.

I haven't,and won't until I get a much better base on people, use meta. I do assume that a WHOLE BUNCH of people do. I've read a number of games on this site. I don't understand everything, but under the assumption that I found him in a few old games on the Team Liquid database, he is one who uses meta.

On those standards, he's not done anything to make him tilt scales. Time will tell...


But your scumread on Farrah is a metaread?? You said her gameplay here was a 180 from her gameplay last game, which meant 180 in alignment. Correct me if I'm wrong but that's a clear meta read. So how could you say you haven't and won't use meta?


I also mentioned that was a satircal statement. Which you pointed to VE leaning mafia over sheeping my vote.

It was an hour into the game, you really think I'm convinced over like 1 or 2 post in a game that's been going over to confirm someone as mafia or not?


Your vote is still on her and you're still talking about the 180 in gameplay so I'm not exactly sure how convinced you are.
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
November 15 2015 21:39 GMT
#325
On November 16 2015 06:34 Eversince wrote:
And? I don't have to unvote to change my vote in this game. As stated by the host. Why should I bother it when I have another 30 somethin' hours to bother with it? I'll develop my reads, and vote accordingly. Right now you seem to be tryin' to find everything I'm doing as suspicious, and that is suspicious to me.


No, I'm trying to figure out how you can say you're not using meta after metareading Farrah. I'm also trying to figure out how you can discredit my questioning towards you by asking me if I think you're really that convinced over a post that early in the game, when your vote is on her and you're still talking about the points that would make her scum.

Your actions and posts make it look like you're convinced, but then you're questioning if I could possibly think you're THAT convinced? Which one is it? Your actions don't line up with you trying to make it look like its only a slight suspicion.

I'm not finding everything you do suspicious. Just the suspicious things
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
November 17 2015 19:25 GMT
#797
I'm here, kinda. I should've tried to be around but I got some bad news from my doctor that I don't really wanna talk about. Game starting on Sunday really made this hard for me. I'm gonna catch up then post some thoughts on what I can.

Just glancing at votes, not sure of the cases behind them, but if its true from the last few posts that this thread is dead so close to deadline, I'm thinking Moosy is town and Breshke could be, too. Has anyone really defended them? Feels like scum doesn't care who is lynched right now since there's no defending or pushing in the last page or so.

I do find it interesting though that ES vote is still on Farrah. Did she ever explain why its still there? Last time we spoke she said it was "satire" and claimed it wasn't a serious vote and that she wasnt required to change the vote, even though apparently she didn't think she was that sold on Farrah being scum. But her vote is still there. Prob gonna check her filter and see if she came back again.

So much to catch up on, bare with me >_<
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
November 17 2015 19:59 GMT
#856
Rushing this post so people know where my head is at. Geript is townlean for referring to meta notes and looking at play objectively to change his reads in a way I can explain. I might have been pocketed because it bumped me up a notch when he did that but w.e, it is what it is. Ritoky is a question mark but on the town side of null for his acivity and questioning. But he posted a town case on VE and a long null case on disfo, which felt kind of weird to me. But not a good or viable lynch for d1 anyway so yeah. NM is pretty much lock town. Good questioning following an understandable train of thought and referring to posts. Maybe I'm just a sucker for someone who makes their posts easy to read.

I wish VE was here because skimming through his filter, I still have my doubts about him over the early ES/Farrah stuff but some of his posts I cant find mafia motivation for so I want his thoughts on how EoD is shaping up.

I kind of dont wanna lynch Scott just because of past games. Like I don't really like any of his posts, but I've felt that way before because of his activity and seemingly unexplained posts and reads, especially on D1, and he flipped town more than once. Maybe I'm just scared here. But off this game alone, he's on the scum side of null. It doesn't really feel like he's trying to figure out the game, I agree, but I'm not in much position to judge activity wise.

Eversince is not here and still voting Farah. I really don't like it but what can I do when there's a medical excuse involved? And maybe I was nitpicking on her Farrah read, whatever, but I was under the impression a metaread is a read based on how someone played in a past game/games, which is what she did. But I'm not gonna beat a dead horse.

Moosy martyring is horribad and he did in fact do this last game but he isn't voting. That's a modkill risk, anyway. I just hope to god if he is town he actually starts playing if he isn't lynched or modkilled here because if we have to carry that into D2 and I end up in triple lylo again, I'm blaming him.

Farrah feels town, but not as lock town as I had her last game. The last few posts make me feel better about her, even with the switching back and forth on votes. I don't think scum is going to do that unless one is in fact her scum mate but she wants to apparently lynch both so idk.

I honestly don't know what Fecal's done but he was lazy this early last game and ended up helping me figure out the game so idk about him. Null with a slight possibility of lazy town.

Trfel has gotten a lot better since my initial suspicion on him, even though a lot of it recently seems to be centered on Scott.

Disfo's waffliness seems to be off, although I can kind of understand his hesitance on me since he TRd me at first but had nothing to go off on me since I disappeared until now. But he's voting Scott now so idk if it's scum possibly bussing if Scott is scum or if Scott is really gonna flip town D1 again after this.

TLDR I'd lynch Scott, ES, maybe disfo or ff but I'm really iffy on the last 2.

##Vote:Scott31337

Again this was super rushed and I know I have a lot of nulls/town leans but I had a lot to read in a little bit of time so I mostly skimmed filters. I'll be able to do a lot more this night phase and at work tomorrow if I get the chance
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
November 17 2015 19:59 GMT
#858
of course I got that done at :59. Inb4 I'm scum for my timing LOL
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
November 18 2015 20:21 GMT
#994
I just got into work 20 mins ago. I've got a lot of reading to do but I should be here all day, as long as work stays slow.

Also looking at the EoN post and the OP, I kinda have a speculation here. Geripts body went missing. The vigs role description is Rroy Mustang, burns up a guy. VEs body was found. Am I wrong for thinking scum just told us the setup? I think geript was the vig shot(body disappeared cuz it was burned up) and VE was townread but not by all and inactive towards end of day. Maybe a medic dodge?

Should I even be speculating on this? Lol
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
November 18 2015 20:38 GMT
#997
I don't think anyone is. Hell I even wasn't, I rushed through it. And I had a feeling this was another inactive Scott d1 town lynch and I ended up being right but I took a chance which didn't pay out =/ but the other option was Moosy, and his posting since he started playing makes me feel better about him. I just wish he hadn't waited until N1 to do so. I do like that he also took the time to post 2 cases on both Farrah and yourself, though if I'm being honest I haven't fully read his case on you. I was more interested in his Farrah case, since I already had suspicions on you and had her as town. And I'm known for being very wrong early game lol
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
November 18 2015 20:40 GMT
#998
On November 19 2015 05:31 NocturneMage wrote:
Shining it says flavour is for fun. In any case, its possible scum could have tried to blue hunt and VE the kill but who knows.


That's why I asked if it was even worth me looking into. Regardless if Vig claims and claims who he shot, its moot...unless I'm right. Also if NKs are going by the same structure, the n2 NK would be typed up the same as n1 NK and we'd know which was the vig shot. But that's useless right now. It was just something I found interesting.
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
November 18 2015 21:05 GMT
#1001
On November 18 2015 15:19 ritoky wrote:
also when's the statute of limitations on being a dick to ever for not being here/doing anything? i mean i know the situation...


On November 18 2015 15:53 ritoky wrote:
i just really don't like shining this game and i am kinda sad my push on him went nowhere....i think his post before the deadline is particularly dumpster.

Show nested quote +
On November 18 2015 04:59 The Shining wrote:
Rushing this post so people know where my head is at. Geript is townlean for referring to meta notes and looking at play objectively to change his reads in a way I can explain. I might have been pocketed because it bumped me up a notch when he did that but w.e, it is what it is. Ritoky is a question mark but on the town side of null for his acivity and questioning. But he posted a town case on VE and a long null case on disfo, which felt kind of weird to me. But not a good or viable lynch for d1 anyway so yeah. NM is pretty much lock town. Good questioning following an understandable train of thought and referring to posts. Maybe I'm just a sucker for someone who makes their posts easy to read.

I wish VE was here because skimming through his filter, I still have my doubts about him over the early ES/Farrah stuff but some of his posts I cant find mafia motivation for so I want his thoughts on how EoD is shaping up.

I kind of dont wanna lynch Scott just because of past games. Like I don't really like any of his posts, but I've felt that way before because of his activity and seemingly unexplained posts and reads, especially on D1, and he flipped town more than once. Maybe I'm just scared here. But off this game alone, he's on the scum side of null. It doesn't really feel like he's trying to figure out the game, I agree, but I'm not in much position to judge activity wise.

Eversince is not here and still voting Farah. I really don't like it but what can I do when there's a medical excuse involved? And maybe I was nitpicking on her Farrah read, whatever, but I was under the impression a metaread is a read based on how someone played in a past game/games, which is what she did. But I'm not gonna beat a dead horse.

Moosy martyring is horribad and he did in fact do this last game but he isn't voting. That's a modkill risk, anyway. I just hope to god if he is town he actually starts playing if he isn't lynched or modkilled here because if we have to carry that into D2 and I end up in triple lylo again, I'm blaming him.

Farrah feels town, but not as lock town as I had her last game. The last few posts make me feel better about her, even with the switching back and forth on votes. I don't think scum is going to do that unless one is in fact her scum mate but she wants to apparently lynch both so idk.

I honestly don't know what Fecal's done but he was lazy this early last game and ended up helping me figure out the game so idk about him. Null with a slight possibility of lazy town.

Trfel has gotten a lot better since my initial suspicion on him, even though a lot of it recently seems to be centered on Scott.

Disfo's waffliness seems to be off, although I can kind of understand his hesitance on me since he TRd me at first but had nothing to go off on me since I disappeared until now. But he's voting Scott now so idk if it's scum possibly bussing if Scott is scum or if Scott is really gonna flip town D1 again after this.

TLDR I'd lynch Scott, ES, maybe disfo or ff but I'm really iffy on the last 2.

##Vote:Scott31337

Again this was super rushed and I know I have a lot of nulls/town leans but I had a lot to read in a little bit of time so I mostly skimmed filters. I'll be able to do a lot more this night phase and at work tomorrow if I get the chance


- 3 obvious reads geript, me, nm -> town i think pretty much every single person in the game knows this so it's really easy to make and i find them overexplained

- i doubt VE, but maybe town, but want his thoughts, but hid this in a giant post so he will never notice it, but haven't tried to ping him or talked about his activity dropoff. poop read

- "i don't want to lynch scott, but vote scott cuz stuff" could very well be the old classic TMI "he look guys i was hesitating so don't blame me fully" bit.

- hey everybody i am still scum reading the only person in the thread who cannot rebut me. notice me senpai a bit

- moosy is the other wagon and he did anti-town stuff but let me vote the guy i have reservations about.

- the posts he likes about farrah are the ones i hate

- scott not trying to solve the game -> scum lean; ff not trying to solve the game -> town lean; SENSE

- trfel has been going hard on 1 of your 3 town reads....and that's an improvement? this needs sum splaining

- trying to play switzerland on disfo

i mean at the end of that i basically learned that everything read he gave is full over indecision and caveats. like he doesn't believe anything strongly except that ever who is perpetual afk atm is mafia for some reason that no one in the game seems to understand except him. like why does anyone TR this guy?


These are half an hr apart. I'm not sure I like ritoky anymore. He mentions Ever not being around, not doing anything and wondering when he can start being a dick to her. And half an hour later he picks apart my admittedly ehhh EoD post but the last line is just. No. I don't want to self meta but I never believe anything strongly d1, d1 is the worst day for me, especially when it starts on a Sunday and I'm limited on time through most of it. But how can you question my scumread on Ever right after bringing up her uselessness and doing nothing and not being here? It doesn't add up.

He also claims Farrah was bad for having regret on the Scott town lynch and claims he tried to get a switch. This is not true. He voted Scott 3 mins before EoD and voted Moosy literally on the hour at EoD yelling OGOD TOWN FEELS. This was WAY too late to get any shenanny done, it looks like he just wanted off the Scott wagon once he realized it was going through.

As far as explaining his points vs my posts, he includes himself in the obvious townread pile. Geript flipped VT and I still think NM is towny af. I'm known for being wrong so if I'm wrong on any here its ritoky. And I don't understand how maybe 2 lines each explaining my read on geript, nm, ritoky is over explained. I didn't post an entire town case like he did on VE.

VE also flipped town. It's bull to pick on my VE read there because I wanted VE to be there to talk to while I was there EoD. But he wasn't, which is why I said I wished he was around. So that is mentioning the activity dropoff. And sure it was a giant post but outside of the initial hard townreads, I left spaces in between every read. It's not that hard to find your name if you're actually town and reading.

Scott? W.e I lynched him, I lynched town, sorry but I'm not gonna go too much into this. I took a chance, it didn't pay out, I was thinking Moosy could be town, I'm not gonna defend it anymore than that.

Eversince yup because like you said useless and not around. The excuse can only go so far, especially since ritoky himself said he hates excuses. I'm sorry if I'm being a bit of a dick towards ES for that but with a wasted vote, no reads, no idea if she even knows or cares what's going on, it could very well be scum with no motivation becuz of irl stuff.

Town Moosy did this last game. I had reservations. Not gonna re explain this either.

I like the Farrah posts he hates. OK? I'm becoming suspicious of ritoky so I actually like that we don't share that read.

Scott not trying to solve the game is strange because Scott likes to solve the game. Ya scumlean. FF was lazy af and didn't really do anything last game until d2 or 3. He was town. So ya town lean. Simple eh?

Town Trfel is kinda like me, gets better as the game goes on if he's town. I want to reread him before I give a definite read on him because he posted a lot after my last post but its just as important to see HOW he was going at one of my townreads, not just that he was going at my townread.

Scott flipped town. So now I'm more suspicious of disfo. The Switzerland bit is pretty funny tho.
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
November 18 2015 21:13 GMT
#1011
On November 19 2015 05:48 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2015 05:38 The Shining wrote:
I don't think anyone is. Hell I even wasn't, I rushed through it. And I had a feeling this was another inactive Scott d1 town lynch and I ended up being right but I took a chance which didn't pay out =/ but the other option was Moosy, and his posting since he started playing makes me feel better about him. I just wish he hadn't waited until N1 to do so. I do like that he also took the time to post 2 cases on both Farrah and yourself, though if I'm being honest I haven't fully read his case on you. I was more interested in his Farrah case, since I already had suspicions on you and had her as town. And I'm known for being very wrong early game lol


Kinda had the same problem, which is why I tried to switch to Breskhe, but ended up switching back to scott anyway. So fair enough I guess.^^


Yeah actually because of this post I'm going to filter dive disfo and hopefully find some time to check his past games, too.

Like, I suspected you. I said I still have suspicions of you. Are you normally this nice and agreeable with people that think you're scum? It's a scum trait, IMO, to try to appease thread sentiment and avoid conflict. Why aren't you curious what exactly I'm suspicious about RE: you so you can explain it? And you started hedging your read on me because of my lack of activity and wanting to see reads from me. I just dropped a big post in response to ritoky. I think I've done enough to be read one way or the other so are ya gonna waffle on me again?
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
November 18 2015 21:16 GMT
#1013
On November 19 2015 06:10 MoosyDoosy wrote:
@TheShining, make less huge posts and give me your top Mafia and top town with explanations please.


Are you seriously trying to go from BM martyr d1 to trying to lead town and the lynch d2?
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The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
November 18 2015 21:22 GMT
#1022
On November 19 2015 06:18 Breshke wrote:
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On November 19 2015 06:16 The Shining wrote:
On November 19 2015 06:10 MoosyDoosy wrote:
@TheShining, make less huge posts and give me your top Mafia and top town with explanations please.


Are you seriously trying to go from BM martyr d1 to trying to lead town and the lynch d2?


Moosey is a dirtbag but his posts were nice have you taken a look do you disagree?


If you read my last few posts I've already mentioned Moosy and his recent posting a few times making him look better, which is why I don't regret voting Scott over Moosy. But this is a huge shift in tone from martyring to actually trying and lead everyone and everything on d2 after narrowly avoiding a lynch d1. Like it could also come from scum feeling the fire under his ass and trying to reverse that now that geript is gone. I can't fully discount that at this point.
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
November 18 2015 21:25 GMT
#1025
On November 19 2015 06:21 MoosyDoosy wrote:
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On November 19 2015 06:16 The Shining wrote:
On November 19 2015 06:10 MoosyDoosy wrote:
@TheShining, make less huge posts and give me your top Mafia and top town with explanations please.


Are you seriously trying to go from BM martyr d1 to trying to lead town and the lynch d2?

I can go back to BM martyr if you wish but the fact that you guys held up with my BS means I have to at least try. Now go read my Farah case and get back to me please.


Indeed I don't and I tried to tie it into our last game and I appreciate the trying but it wouldve been nice to see it done from the get go, like that one game you went hard on d1 on me.

So do you want my top scum/town with explanations first or review on your Farrah case? Or are you just trying to overload me with tasks so when I miss one, you can scum me for it? :3

I'll do both, just need some time to actually read
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
November 18 2015 21:39 GMT
#1034
On November 19 2015 06:28 Breshke wrote:
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On November 19 2015 06:22 The Shining wrote:
On November 19 2015 06:18 Breshke wrote:
On November 19 2015 06:16 The Shining wrote:
On November 19 2015 06:10 MoosyDoosy wrote:
@TheShining, make less huge posts and give me your top Mafia and top town with explanations please.


Are you seriously trying to go from BM martyr d1 to trying to lead town and the lynch d2?


Moosey is a dirtbag but his posts were nice have you taken a look do you disagree?


If you read my last few posts I've already mentioned Moosy and his recent posting a few times making him look better, which is why I don't regret voting Scott over Moosy. But this is a huge shift in tone from martyring to actually trying and lead everyone and everything on d2 after narrowly avoiding a lynch d1. Like it could also come from scum feeling the fire under his ass and trying to reverse that now that geript is gone. I can't fully discount that at this point.


Fire under his ass from what though? Wasn't Geript town reading moosey I don't understand how him being dead affects the situation.

It is plausible that what you are saying is right and that after his wagon was so close on D1 he felt the need to lift his game but I genuinly think his pushes are in the right direction. (although thinking about this now taking in what he did in his last mafia game it isn't out of his playbook to bus here). I think this is a good thing to keep in mind but he is solidly town in my books still.


I'll explain this more when our Vig claims and says who he shot but if geript was shot by scum, not Vig, it would basically immortalize his TR on Moosy without him ever revisiting it because he's dead. He was 99% sure Moosy was scum before be flipped on him when he started trying.

But the fire under his ass part, you're right about. I was referring to him having to step up his game because of the close wagon. Like the change in tone could come from either alignment. Town wanting to try hard after being given a second chance or scum wanting to try hard after narrowly avoiding a lynch.

You're asking a lot of questions, wondering what you're gaining from the responses and conclusions? And if you think Moosy is pushing in the right directions, does that mean you think Farrah and disfo are scum?
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
November 18 2015 21:41 GMT
#1035
On November 19 2015 06:31 disformation wrote:
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On November 19 2015 06:30 Breshke wrote:
Farah are you going to explain why FF is the vigi?


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On November 19 2015 06:24 FarahBlackwing wrote:
Everyone except Ritoky, Eversince and FecalFeast have entered the thread at this point.

You claim your shot as soon as you can as vig so that mafia can't create confusion later on with claiming the shot.

We can eliminate Ritoky from the list of consideration because he hard town read VE throughout the day even if he dropped a bit due to inactivity.

Eversince hasn't been here and didn't respond during the night which makes her highly unlikely to be the vigilante

FecalFeast is the best candidate left currently.


I mean this was a few posts up on the same page. Are you reading and thinking or just asking questions for the sake of looking active?
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
November 18 2015 21:57 GMT
#1048
On November 19 2015 06:51 Breshke wrote:
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On November 19 2015 06:41 The Shining wrote:
On November 19 2015 06:31 disformation wrote:
On November 19 2015 06:30 Breshke wrote:
Farah are you going to explain why FF is the vigi?


On November 19 2015 06:24 FarahBlackwing wrote:
Everyone except Ritoky, Eversince and FecalFeast have entered the thread at this point.

You claim your shot as soon as you can as vig so that mafia can't create confusion later on with claiming the shot.

We can eliminate Ritoky from the list of consideration because he hard town read VE throughout the day even if he dropped a bit due to inactivity.

Eversince hasn't been here and didn't respond during the night which makes her highly unlikely to be the vigilante

FecalFeast is the best candidate left currently.


I mean this was a few posts up on the same page. Are you reading and thinking or just asking questions for the sake of looking active?


This is actually really dumb by the way. You're saying I Saw farahs post explaining it and decided to just ask anyway because as scum I would think it makes me look good. I don't follow any logic there.


No I'm saying you missed it because you weren't reading and used something she mentioned a few pages ago to try and ask a question that IMO doesn't mean much just to look like you're questioning your scumread. And to answer your last post, about wondering what you're gaining, I'm asking because it isn't in the thread. So you're getting reads from these questions? What are they besides disfo and Farrah scum? Are the other people you questioned town then? Did you find a 3rd scum? These things are what I'm asking about
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