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On November 16 2015 06:28 Eversince wrote:Show nested quote +On November 16 2015 06:25 The Shining wrote:On November 16 2015 06:21 Eversince wrote:
I mentioned in my earlier post, Viscera is null. He sheeped a random vote I made an hour into this game. If he does squat else followin', I'll take issue. Right now I've already mentioned that, while currently not useful, his post don't seem to push him either way.
I haven't,and won't until I get a much better base on people, use meta. I do assume that a WHOLE BUNCH of people do. I've read a number of games on this site. I don't understand everything, but under the assumption that I found him in a few old games on the Team Liquid database, he is one who uses meta.
On those standards, he's not done anything to make him tilt scales. Time will tell... But your scumread on Farrah is a metaread?? You said her gameplay here was a 180 from her gameplay last game, which meant 180 in alignment. Correct me if I'm wrong but that's a clear meta read. So how could you say you haven't and won't use meta? I also mentioned that was a satircal statement. Which you pointed to VE leaning mafia over sheeping my vote. It was an hour into the game, you really think I'm convinced over like 1 or 2 post in a game that's been going over to confirm someone as mafia or not?
Your vote is still on her and you're still talking about the 180 in gameplay so I'm not exactly sure how convinced you are.
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And? I don't have to unvote to change my vote in this game. As stated by the host. Why should I bother it when I have another 30 somethin' hours to bother with it? I'll develop my reads, and vote accordingly. Right now you seem to be tryin' to find everything I'm doing as suspicious, and that is suspicious to me.
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It is incorrect to say shining lurked at the point I town read him. I don't believe I town read him last game or a full town read until halfway in the game when he sounded generally and did what I considered towny.
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Either geript knows a whole darn lot that I don't or he's mafia.
I'm reasonably happy with FarahBlackwing and The Shining as town.
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On November 16 2015 06:34 Eversince wrote:
And? I don't have to unvote to change my vote in this game. As stated by the host. Why should I bother it when I have another 30 somethin' hours to bother with it? I'll develop my reads, and vote accordingly. Right now you seem to be tryin' to find everything I'm doing as suspicious, and that is suspicious to me.
No, I'm trying to figure out how you can say you're not using meta after metareading Farrah. I'm also trying to figure out how you can discredit my questioning towards you by asking me if I think you're really that convinced over a post that early in the game, when your vote is on her and you're still talking about the points that would make her scum.
Your actions and posts make it look like you're convinced, but then you're questioning if I could possibly think you're THAT convinced? Which one is it? Your actions don't line up with you trying to make it look like its only a slight suspicion.
I'm not finding everything you do suspicious. Just the suspicious things
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Update:
Flavor for daypost is finished.
Filters have been added to playerlist.
Carry on.
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On November 16 2015 06:39 Trfel wrote:
Either geript knows a whole darn lot that I don't or he's mafia.
I'm reasonably happy with FarahBlackwing and The Shining as town.
Why can't it be both 
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On November 16 2015 06:39 The Shining wrote:Show nested quote +On November 16 2015 06:34 Eversince wrote:
And? I don't have to unvote to change my vote in this game. As stated by the host. Why should I bother it when I have another 30 somethin' hours to bother with it? I'll develop my reads, and vote accordingly. Right now you seem to be tryin' to find everything I'm doing as suspicious, and that is suspicious to me. No, I'm trying to figure out how you can say you're not using meta after metareading Farrah. I'm also trying to figure out how you can discredit my questioning towards you by asking me if I think you're really that convinced over a post that early in the game, when your vote is on her and you're still talking about the points that would make her scum. Your actions and posts make it look like you're convinced, but then you're questioning if I could possibly think you're THAT convinced? Which one is it? Your actions don't line up with you trying to make it look like its only a slight suspicion. I'm not finding everything you do suspicious. Just the suspicious things
Quoting myself "I usually don't, and will not until I know people here better use meta reads."
I have, to this date, 1 meta read on this site.
Someone I played in last game. Somethin' I also stated as satire mostly, being it was less than 1 1/2 hours into the game.
How can I show you this anymore simply? I've only said it 3-4 times now.
On November 16 2015 06:36 FarahBlackwing wrote:
It is incorrect to say shining lurked at the point I town read him. I don't believe I town read him last game or a full town read until halfway in the game when he sounded generally and did what I considered towny.
I might be wrong on this, I'll go back and check later hopefully, you town read him D1. He had like a 1 or 2 page filter on D1. He had not been active at all, by any measure of time, you firmly labeled him as town. Unless I'm wrong, your comment is wrong and you used a meta read to town read him, while being really squirmy, to label him. Which gave you problems going into D3. If not for the claim that painted me confirmed mafia, I think you might have had an issue.
I already have said that I was more poking at the fact that JUST MABY you were havin' a laugh this game and claiming he is mafia when he has zero post. Being familiar and all, I don't think this was a hard jump of logic for me to make.
A few of you nit picking on it is curious though.
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I'm not nitpicking at all, I'm correcting that I had reasonable things to town read him on.
I really don't care about ever vote on me since I believe it to be not a serious vote to my pressure vote.
Though I have a more positive feeling about ever here than in the previous game a bit.
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Morning everyone.
Eversince you said the shining is suspicious does that mean you scum read him?
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Yeh, at this point I don't think he looks good.
His response
~Ignores what I mention about my vote
~Paints me dirty over the whole reason I voted her was for the bias in reads. Which has to have time before Farah can even develop reads.
~Finds a reason to say that I'm "convinced" of my reads, though I've never even hinted towards being sure.
I think it doesn't add up. Just my thoughts at the moment.
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Eversince can you explain this a little for me I am having trouble understanding.
1. You make this post
On November 16 2015 05:13 Eversince wrote:Show nested quote +On November 16 2015 05:04 FarahBlackwing wrote:
Hello. I think the proper use of our time is
##vote shining
Statistically it has to be time 100% townread based on nothing last game I play with you. Last game: Farah town, hard read based on not much, Shining obvious town. This game: Farah ?, Shining mafia. 180 in gameplay = 180 in alignment Obviously mafia. ##vote: FarahblackwingSoooo mafia. Lynch today!
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On November 16 2015 06:02 Eversince wrote:Show nested quote +On November 16 2015 05:48 The Shining wrote:On November 16 2015 05:42 VisceraEyes wrote:On November 16 2015 05:38 The Shining wrote:On November 16 2015 05:33 VisceraEyes wrote:On November 16 2015 05:13 Eversince wrote:On November 16 2015 05:04 FarahBlackwing wrote:
Hello. I think the proper use of our time is
##vote shining
Statistically it has to be time 100% townread based on nothing last game I play with you. Last game: Farah town, hard read based on not much, Shining obvious town. This game: Farah ?, Shining mafia. 180 in gameplay = 180 in alignment Obviously mafia. ##vote: FarahblackwingSoooo mafia. Lynch today! I actually like this a lot. ##Vote: Farahblackwing What about it do you like? I see a short meta read based off of one newbie game, from a newbie. I wouldn't be nearly this confident in meta reading someone after just one game. And how do you know its even accurate? Did you check the last game or are you just blindly trusting to get on a wagon here? I don't care if it's accurate - if they're mafia and lying someone will come in and say "Hey that's a lie" and I'll reevaluate then. At this point I'm taking the short meta read at face value, assuming it's true and taking the attempt as a townie attempt to find mafia - one that has possibly borne fruit. So no, I'm not just "blindly" jumping on a wagon. I like this particular wagon for the reasons given and I like the person who started it, as indicated in my post. So in other words, you're being lazy and following the word of someone that you've never played with before about someone youve never played with before. Got it. Now if I go and say that I have a meta read on Eversince because as scum last game she just enters the thread and finds the scummiest looking thing she can and just hammers it into oblivion, which I think she could be doing here, what would you make of that? I want to see more than a short meta read on one person and no talk of other players before I even remotely believe she is town. I came into thread picking at Kelsier for the argument between him and Moosy. Since I was mafia that game, I knew both where town, but what else to pick at? They had filled several pages of the game with useless rambling. How can you even say I hammered it into the ground? I dropped my Kelsier read in the following night phase. I only held on to Moosy because his lack of content provided an excuse to my mafia self to chase after. I did play with Farah last game. You basically posted nothing for 80% of the game. She had an irreversible town read on you from early D1. So much so, I wish you HAD been mafia that game. Because if it had been you and not Vonthin, mafia would have easily won that game by killing Rels, and leaving you, Farah, and GB alive for lylo. Because Farah would not have voted you from D1 that game. I mentioned as much in QT about night kills because if Vonthin was left with Farah/Shining he would loss because neither would vote the other over him. Other than that point, I see nothing wrong with he's done other than ploy at a sarcastical comment I made an hour into this game. Which you point that he hasn't a need to make it. That's true. But don't try to say that I'm playin' my mafia meta because I poke fun early into the game.
The bolded I assume refers to the initial post and makes sense to me like it was clear to me you werent being serious (apparently not to geiprt?)
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On November 16 2015 06:30 Eversince wrote:
To clarify, The Shining lurked bad last game I played with.
Farah town reads him regardless.
This game, Farah mafia reads The Shining.
He had not even posted yet.
Yeh! It's completely different play! Buggers! Sorry for pointin' it out!
Then this is where you lose me. I don't really get why you explained a read that you just called sarcastic. Do you think the difference in play means anything for farahs alignment?
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Hey there Ritoky!, thoughts?
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On November 16 2015 07:12 Breshke wrote:Eversince can you explain this a little for me I am having trouble understanding. 1. You make this post Show nested quote +On November 16 2015 05:13 Eversince wrote:On November 16 2015 05:04 FarahBlackwing wrote:
Hello. I think the proper use of our time is
##vote shining
Statistically it has to be time 100% townread based on nothing last game I play with you. Last game: Farah town, hard read based on not much, Shining obvious town. This game: Farah ?, Shining mafia. 180 in gameplay = 180 in alignment Obviously mafia. ##vote: FarahblackwingSoooo mafia. Lynch today! 2. Show nested quote +On November 16 2015 06:02 Eversince wrote:On November 16 2015 05:48 The Shining wrote:On November 16 2015 05:42 VisceraEyes wrote:On November 16 2015 05:38 The Shining wrote:On November 16 2015 05:33 VisceraEyes wrote:On November 16 2015 05:13 Eversince wrote:On November 16 2015 05:04 FarahBlackwing wrote:
Hello. I think the proper use of our time is
##vote shining
Statistically it has to be time 100% townread based on nothing last game I play with you. Last game: Farah town, hard read based on not much, Shining obvious town. This game: Farah ?, Shining mafia. 180 in gameplay = 180 in alignment Obviously mafia. ##vote: FarahblackwingSoooo mafia. Lynch today! I actually like this a lot. ##Vote: Farahblackwing What about it do you like? I see a short meta read based off of one newbie game, from a newbie. I wouldn't be nearly this confident in meta reading someone after just one game. And how do you know its even accurate? Did you check the last game or are you just blindly trusting to get on a wagon here? I don't care if it's accurate - if they're mafia and lying someone will come in and say "Hey that's a lie" and I'll reevaluate then. At this point I'm taking the short meta read at face value, assuming it's true and taking the attempt as a townie attempt to find mafia - one that has possibly borne fruit. So no, I'm not just "blindly" jumping on a wagon. I like this particular wagon for the reasons given and I like the person who started it, as indicated in my post. So in other words, you're being lazy and following the word of someone that you've never played with before about someone youve never played with before. Got it. Now if I go and say that I have a meta read on Eversince because as scum last game she just enters the thread and finds the scummiest looking thing she can and just hammers it into oblivion, which I think she could be doing here, what would you make of that? I want to see more than a short meta read on one person and no talk of other players before I even remotely believe she is town. I came into thread picking at Kelsier for the argument between him and Moosy. Since I was mafia that game, I knew both where town, but what else to pick at? They had filled several pages of the game with useless rambling. How can you even say I hammered it into the ground? I dropped my Kelsier read in the following night phase. I only held on to Moosy because his lack of content provided an excuse to my mafia self to chase after. I did play with Farah last game. You basically posted nothing for 80% of the game. She had an irreversible town read on you from early D1. So much so, I wish you HAD been mafia that game. Because if it had been you and not Vonthin, mafia would have easily won that game by killing Rels, and leaving you, Farah, and GB alive for lylo. Because Farah would not have voted you from D1 that game. I mentioned as much in QT about night kills because if Vonthin was left with Farah/Shining he would loss because neither would vote the other over him. Other than that point, I see nothing wrong with he's done other than ploy at a sarcastical comment I made an hour into this game. Which you point that he hasn't a need to make it. That's true. But don't try to say that I'm playin' my mafia meta because I poke fun early into the game. The bolded I assume refers to the initial post and makes sense to me like it was clear to me you werent being serious (apparently not to geiprt?) 3. Show nested quote +On November 16 2015 06:30 Eversince wrote:
To clarify, The Shining lurked bad last game I played with.
Farah town reads him regardless.
This game, Farah mafia reads The Shining.
He had not even posted yet.
Yeh! It's completely different play! Buggers! Sorry for pointin' it out! Then this is where you lose me. I don't really get why you explained a read that you just called sarcastic. Do you think the difference in play means anything for farahs alignment?
1. Yeh,
2. It was in reference to my first post.
3. No I don't think Farah is mafia at this point. Her early play I took as play, and she's done nothin' else to make me consider her as mafia. The only thing she's done is question me on something I did. I answered her. And she responded to me. I liked it.
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Ohhh I think I mis-understood point 3.
I had to explain it because The Shining is poking at me for poking at Farah. I was only tryin' for cheap laughs, said as much, and still am being painted black because I said it. So I spelled it out as simply as I could understand how to. Showing my thoughts and reasoning for why I did what I did...
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VE probably town for tonal purposes and because i have played with him enough to where i have some level of confidence understanding the difference between him going ham as town and being a ham sandwich as mafia.
geript might be town for saying what i thought about VE around when i thought it. but i also think it is easy to say if you've played enough with VE so he doesn't get as much cred as he should.
bunch of people who i have little to 0 experience debating meta i don't know/care about is a snooze fest for me
trfel might be scum cuz bad VE read, but then he went kind hard on it for pretty shit reasons...so might be donkey????
and then also hesitate on truffle cuz this:
On November 16 2015 06:22 The Shining wrote:Show nested quote +On November 16 2015 06:19 geript wrote:
Also if trfel hasn't said at least 1 smart thing by tomorrow we kill him. I like this. Trfels entrance was a one liner asking you to explain your read. And the posts are worryingly short. Is this the same Trfel that likes to post crazy WoT to start games and do stuff to get conversation and reads going? Because that is the town Trfel I know and this isn't him.
instant scum read of trfel by shining for blah reasons -> trfel posts exactly the opposite of what he describeds 2 posts later -> no re-eval on trfel
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describeds i can engrish with the best of em
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i must smell or something, the moment i show up the room clears out.....i only changed like 4 diapers today it's not THAT bad.
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I'm still about! But you've failed to give my your thoughts yet.... So hard to find conversational topics.
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