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Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
November 15 2015 23:34 GMT
#361
Oh disforms ninja post is fine for now.
ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
November 15 2015 23:38 GMT
#362
On November 16 2015 08:24 Trfel wrote:
Okay, fine, I'll bite.

WHY do you two think that my read on VisceraEyes is bad?


The following is a meta translation of VE to common english:

On November 16 2015 05:35 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2015 05:34 The Shining wrote:
Farrah your logic is flawed. I rolled scum a few games ago which means I'm due for another 10 town games, which this is. Your instant vote is pretty uncalled for so early, with so many people missing but I'll chalk it up to interesting entrance. How far you plan on pushing this obvious policy lynch?

Actually all the entrances so far suck. No TRs, town Y u make this so hard?

No townreads = trying to keep options open. Marfia.


Hello game

+ Show Spoiler +
snap reaction beginning of game read. not contrived as fuk


On November 16 2015 05:37 VisceraEyes wrote:
Like statistically speaking you could just close your eyes and point at a townie, so the fact that you can't trust ANYONE with so many having posted is a huge red flag for me.


I am VE, guess what?

+ Show Spoiler +
early capitalization, also something subtle enough that mafia probably wouldn't comment on so early when trying to fit in


On November 16 2015 05:42 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2015 05:38 The Shining wrote:
On November 16 2015 05:33 VisceraEyes wrote:
On November 16 2015 05:13 Eversince wrote:
On November 16 2015 05:04 FarahBlackwing wrote:
Hello. I think the proper use of our time is

##vote shining

Statistically it has to be time


100% townread based on nothing last game I play with you.


Last game: Farah town, hard read based on not much, Shining obvious town.
This game: Farah ?, Shining mafia.

180 in gameplay = 180 in alignment

Obviously mafia.

##vote: Farahblackwing

Soooo mafia. Lynch today!

I actually like this a lot.

##Vote: Farahblackwing


What about it do you like? I see a short meta read based off of one newbie game, from a newbie. I wouldn't be nearly this confident in meta reading someone after just one game. And how do you know its even accurate? Did you check the last game or are you just blindly trusting to get on a wagon here?

I don't care if it's accurate - if they're mafia and lying someone will come in and say "Hey that's a lie" and I'll reevaluate then. At this point I'm taking the short meta read at face value, assuming it's true and taking the attempt as a townie attempt to find mafia - one that has possibly borne fruit.

So no, I'm not just "blindly" jumping on a wagon. I like this particular wagon for the reasons given and I like the person who started it, as indicated in my post.


I am town this game.

+ Show Spoiler +
you're wrong post, mmmmm yummy town flakes


On November 16 2015 05:45 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2015 05:44 The Shining wrote:
If you want me to explain, the logic of closing your eyes and finding a town less than an hour to d1 by just pointing means statistically you have a higher chance of finding town by being random. By that same logic, snap voting this early on D1 means it has a higher chance of landing on town.

Farrah why do you think the game is boring less than an hour after it started? That feels pretty ñonsensical. Things have to happen for it to be exciting, or boring. Deciding its boring on the 3rd post of the game is pretty weird.

And AS I said, it wasn't a random snap vote. It's a vote placed with reason. You may or may not agree with the reason, that's your prerogative and should affect whether or not you place your vote. Not mine. <3


Guess what mafia peoples?

+ Show Spoiler +
classic VE stubbornness, "you can hate my reason but i am right, get fukt"


On November 16 2015 05:50 VisceraEyes wrote:
You're getting awfully anxious about me trusting someone so early Shining, I have to say it looks really scummy to me. Why are you so against me having a townread on someone and a scumread on someone else?


Enjoy shooting me this game cuz I am not getting lynched.

+ Show Spoiler +
constant pressure, commenting on daddy issu...i mean trust issues from before which i liked


i hope at some point someone messes up with this post so i can laugh at them.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
FarahBlackwing
Profile Joined October 2015
270 Posts
November 15 2015 23:49 GMT
#363
Actually I like that ve read and ritoky reasoning...

Can I pretend not to like ritoky?
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
November 15 2015 23:51 GMT
#364
On November 16 2015 08:49 FarahBlackwing wrote:
Actually I like that ve read and ritoky reasoning...

Can I pretend not to like ritoky?


it's easy to not like me when my face is this unattractive.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
November 15 2015 23:51 GMT
#365
I like ritoky too
ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
November 16 2015 00:13 GMT
#366
On November 16 2015 07:33 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2015 06:14 geript wrote:
On November 16 2015 06:11 FarahBlackwing wrote:
That's what your going to get geript that's my read and idc if it is not adequate for you.

No. I'm going to get more because your answer didn't say anything. Explain why those things make him town to you. Especially off of 1 (maybe 2) games experience.


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On November 16 2015 06:21 geript wrote:
On November 16 2015 06:13 FarahBlackwing wrote:
On November 16 2015 06:08 disformation wrote:
On November 16 2015 06:05 FarahBlackwing wrote:
On November 16 2015 05:59 geript wrote:
On November 16 2015 05:58 FarahBlackwing wrote:
##unvote

Ok I have my read now.

Why shouldn't I dos something earlto try to obtain any type of formative reads or understanding when everyone was just saying hi.

So what's your read and how did you reach it?


Shining is town based on general activity, somewhat emotional responses based on things happening in game. His posts sound like someone struggling o try to get his point across rather than someone trying to fit in.

Pretty sure he's town at least for now.


Do you mean to say that Shining posts much more as town? Could someone else confirm this? Don't remember playing with Shining.


From reading his past games he is slightly more posty but he's more mechanical as scum and lacks emotional responses about in game situations and it generally comes later after post a than in sync with the thread. This view comes from research and talking with people who know how to read him

Not a huge fan of this heuristic but I can understand where it comes from. I think it's really poor to apply here.


yo geript, wtf happened here? gimme more you fucker -> super agreeable but you're wrong. like wha?

I just can't decide what I think of Farah. If it's scum making a reasonable-ish excuse or if town apply heuristic a little wrong.
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
November 16 2015 00:16 GMT
#367
On November 16 2015 06:24 Eversince wrote:
Also, how was my second paragraph irrelevant. Just be realistic, assume I wasn't entirely feeding the pigeons corn, and understand I was tryin' to appear townish that game. So I was picking at things that I would find questionable as town. You didn't have much of anything until D3? to justify her read on you. Why the 180 now?


lmao best quote the whole game.

"assume I wasn't entirely feeding the pigeons corn"
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
November 16 2015 00:17 GMT
#368
I really liked ritoky until that last post. I think I'll ignore it and just put him in the town pile with VE.
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
November 16 2015 00:18 GMT
#369
On November 16 2015 09:16 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2015 06:24 Eversince wrote:
Also, how was my second paragraph irrelevant. Just be realistic, assume I wasn't entirely feeding the pigeons corn, and understand I was tryin' to appear townish that game. So I was picking at things that I would find questionable as town. You didn't have much of anything until D3? to justify her read on you. Why the 180 now?


lmao best quote the whole game.

"assume I wasn't entirely feeding the pigeons corn"

You got any early reads?
ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
November 16 2015 00:40 GMT
#370
@VisceraEyes, what do you think of Shining's meta read on Eversince?

@disformation, you say you townread geript for "moving the game forwards". In that case, what do you think about Shining right now?

@TheShining, exactly wtf are you trying to accomplish right now?
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
November 16 2015 00:44 GMT
#371
##Vote: FarahBlackwing
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
November 16 2015 00:47 GMT
#372
@mods, the ritoky filter link on page 1 leads to disformation.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
November 16 2015 00:48 GMT
#373
@geript, hello how are you?
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
November 16 2015 00:53 GMT
#374
On November 16 2015 09:44 MoosyDoosy wrote:
##Vote: FarahBlackwing


cuz?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
November 16 2015 00:57 GMT
#375
On November 16 2015 09:40 MoosyDoosy wrote:
@disformation, you say you townread geript for "moving the game forwards". In that case, what do you think about Shining right now?


Hmm. Not sure what to make of The Shining. Could maybe be seen as wanting to drive the thread a bit, since "all the entries were lame", but too much focus on the early VE/TS/Farah/Ever stuff, which as mentioned before I didn't quite get. So I'd like him to do some more stuff so I can think about it a bit more.

Also would like you to answer the questions by FF and ritoky:
+ Show Spoiler +
On November 16 2015 09:18 Fecalfeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2015 09:16 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On November 16 2015 06:24 Eversince wrote:
Also, how was my second paragraph irrelevant. Just be realistic, assume I wasn't entirely feeding the pigeons corn, and understand I was tryin' to appear townish that game. So I was picking at things that I would find questionable as town. You didn't have much of anything until D3? to justify her read on you. Why the 180 now?


lmao best quote the whole game.

"assume I wasn't entirely feeding the pigeons corn"

You got any early reads?

On November 16 2015 09:53 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2015 09:44 MoosyDoosy wrote:
##Vote: FarahBlackwing


cuz?

disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
November 16 2015 01:09 GMT
#376
Breshke you still around? What do you think of Eversince's answers to your questions?
questions be here:+ Show Spoiler +
On November 16 2015 07:12 Breshke wrote:
Eversince can you explain this a little for me I am having trouble understanding.

1. You make this post

Show nested quote +
On November 16 2015 05:13 Eversince wrote:
On November 16 2015 05:04 FarahBlackwing wrote:
Hello. I think the proper use of our time is

##vote shining

Statistically it has to be time


100% townread based on nothing last game I play with you.


Last game: Farah town, hard read based on not much, Shining obvious town.
This game: Farah ?, Shining mafia.

180 in gameplay = 180 in alignment

Obviously mafia.

##vote: Farahblackwing

Soooo mafia. Lynch today!


2.

Show nested quote +
On November 16 2015 06:02 Eversince wrote:
On November 16 2015 05:48 The Shining wrote:
On November 16 2015 05:42 VisceraEyes wrote:
On November 16 2015 05:38 The Shining wrote:
On November 16 2015 05:33 VisceraEyes wrote:
On November 16 2015 05:13 Eversince wrote:
On November 16 2015 05:04 FarahBlackwing wrote:
Hello. I think the proper use of our time is

##vote shining

Statistically it has to be time


100% townread based on nothing last game I play with you.


Last game: Farah town, hard read based on not much, Shining obvious town.
This game: Farah ?, Shining mafia.

180 in gameplay = 180 in alignment

Obviously mafia.

##vote: Farahblackwing

Soooo mafia. Lynch today!

I actually like this a lot.

##Vote: Farahblackwing


What about it do you like? I see a short meta read based off of one newbie game, from a newbie. I wouldn't be nearly this confident in meta reading someone after just one game. And how do you know its even accurate? Did you check the last game or are you just blindly trusting to get on a wagon here?

I don't care if it's accurate - if they're mafia and lying someone will come in and say "Hey that's a lie" and I'll reevaluate then. At this point I'm taking the short meta read at face value, assuming it's true and taking the attempt as a townie attempt to find mafia - one that has possibly borne fruit.

So no, I'm not just "blindly" jumping on a wagon. I like this particular wagon for the reasons given and I like the person who started it, as indicated in my post.


So in other words, you're being lazy and following the word of someone that you've never played with before about someone youve never played with before. Got it.

Now if I go and say that I have a meta read on Eversince because as scum last game she just enters the thread and finds the scummiest looking thing she can and just hammers it into oblivion, which I think she could be doing here, what would you make of that? I want to see more than a short meta read on one person and no talk of other players before I even remotely believe she is town.


I came into thread picking at Kelsier for the argument between him and Moosy. Since I was mafia that game, I knew both where town, but what else to pick at? They had filled several pages of the game with useless rambling. How can you even say I hammered it into the ground? I dropped my Kelsier read in the following night phase. I only held on to Moosy because his lack of content provided an excuse to my mafia self to chase after.

I did play with Farah last game. You basically posted nothing for 80% of the game. She had an irreversible town read on you from early D1. So much so, I wish you HAD been mafia that game. Because if it had been you and not Vonthin, mafia would have easily won that game by killing Rels, and leaving you, Farah, and GB alive for lylo. Because Farah would not have voted you from D1 that game. I mentioned as much in QT about night kills because if Vonthin was left with Farah/Shining he would loss because neither would vote the other over him.

Other than that point, I see nothing wrong with he's done other than ploy at a sarcastical comment I made an hour into this game. Which you point that he hasn't a need to make it. That's true. But don't try to say that I'm playin' my mafia meta because I poke fun early into the game.


The bolded I assume refers to the initial post and makes sense to me like it was clear to me you werent being serious (apparently not to geiprt?)

3.
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2015 06:30 Eversince wrote:
To clarify, The Shining lurked bad last game I played with.
Farah town reads him regardless.

This game, Farah mafia reads The Shining.
He had not even posted yet.

Yeh! It's completely different play! Buggers! Sorry for pointin' it out!


Then this is where you lose me. I don't really get why you explained a read that you just called sarcastic. Do you think the difference in play means anything for farahs alignment?

answers be here:+ Show Spoiler +

On November 16 2015 07:15 Eversince wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2015 07:12 Breshke wrote:
Eversince can you explain this a little for me I am having trouble understanding.

1. You make this post

On November 16 2015 05:13 Eversince wrote:
On November 16 2015 05:04 FarahBlackwing wrote:
Hello. I think the proper use of our time is

##vote shining

Statistically it has to be time


100% townread based on nothing last game I play with you.


Last game: Farah town, hard read based on not much, Shining obvious town.
This game: Farah ?, Shining mafia.

180 in gameplay = 180 in alignment

Obviously mafia.

##vote: Farahblackwing

Soooo mafia. Lynch today!


2.

On November 16 2015 06:02 Eversince wrote:
On November 16 2015 05:48 The Shining wrote:
On November 16 2015 05:42 VisceraEyes wrote:
On November 16 2015 05:38 The Shining wrote:
On November 16 2015 05:33 VisceraEyes wrote:
On November 16 2015 05:13 Eversince wrote:
On November 16 2015 05:04 FarahBlackwing wrote:
Hello. I think the proper use of our time is

##vote shining

Statistically it has to be time


100% townread based on nothing last game I play with you.


Last game: Farah town, hard read based on not much, Shining obvious town.
This game: Farah ?, Shining mafia.

180 in gameplay = 180 in alignment

Obviously mafia.

##vote: Farahblackwing

Soooo mafia. Lynch today!

I actually like this a lot.

##Vote: Farahblackwing


What about it do you like? I see a short meta read based off of one newbie game, from a newbie. I wouldn't be nearly this confident in meta reading someone after just one game. And how do you know its even accurate? Did you check the last game or are you just blindly trusting to get on a wagon here?

I don't care if it's accurate - if they're mafia and lying someone will come in and say "Hey that's a lie" and I'll reevaluate then. At this point I'm taking the short meta read at face value, assuming it's true and taking the attempt as a townie attempt to find mafia - one that has possibly borne fruit.

So no, I'm not just "blindly" jumping on a wagon. I like this particular wagon for the reasons given and I like the person who started it, as indicated in my post.


So in other words, you're being lazy and following the word of someone that you've never played with before about someone youve never played with before. Got it.

Now if I go and say that I have a meta read on Eversince because as scum last game she just enters the thread and finds the scummiest looking thing she can and just hammers it into oblivion, which I think she could be doing here, what would you make of that? I want to see more than a short meta read on one person and no talk of other players before I even remotely believe she is town.


I came into thread picking at Kelsier for the argument between him and Moosy. Since I was mafia that game, I knew both where town, but what else to pick at? They had filled several pages of the game with useless rambling. How can you even say I hammered it into the ground? I dropped my Kelsier read in the following night phase. I only held on to Moosy because his lack of content provided an excuse to my mafia self to chase after.

I did play with Farah last game. You basically posted nothing for 80% of the game. She had an irreversible town read on you from early D1. So much so, I wish you HAD been mafia that game. Because if it had been you and not Vonthin, mafia would have easily won that game by killing Rels, and leaving you, Farah, and GB alive for lylo. Because Farah would not have voted you from D1 that game. I mentioned as much in QT about night kills because if Vonthin was left with Farah/Shining he would loss because neither would vote the other over him.

Other than that point, I see nothing wrong with he's done other than ploy at a sarcastical comment I made an hour into this game. Which you point that he hasn't a need to make it. That's true. But don't try to say that I'm playin' my mafia meta because I poke fun early into the game.


The bolded I assume refers to the initial post and makes sense to me like it was clear to me you werent being serious (apparently not to geiprt?)

3.
On November 16 2015 06:30 Eversince wrote:
To clarify, The Shining lurked bad last game I played with.
Farah town reads him regardless.

This game, Farah mafia reads The Shining.
He had not even posted yet.

Yeh! It's completely different play! Buggers! Sorry for pointin' it out!


Then this is where you lose me. I don't really get why you explained a read that you just called sarcastic. Do you think the difference in play means anything for farahs alignment?


1. Yeh,
2. It was in reference to my first post.
3. No I don't think Farah is mafia at this point. Her early play I took as play, and she's done nothin' else to make me consider her as mafia. The only thing she's done is question me on something I did. I answered her. And she responded to me. I liked it.



On November 16 2015 07:20 Eversince wrote:
Ohhh I think I mis-understood point 3.

I had to explain it because The Shining is poking at me for poking at Farah. I was only tryin' for cheap laughs, said as much, and still am being painted black because I said it. So I spelled it out as simply as I could understand how to. Showing my thoughts and reasoning for why I did what I did...


Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
November 16 2015 05:12 GMT
#377
Sorry for fucking off.

On November 16 2015 10:09 disformation wrote:
Breshke you still around? What do you think of Eversince's answers to your questions?
questions be here:+ Show Spoiler +
On November 16 2015 07:12 Breshke wrote:
Eversince can you explain this a little for me I am having trouble understanding.

1. You make this post

Show nested quote +
On November 16 2015 05:13 Eversince wrote:
On November 16 2015 05:04 FarahBlackwing wrote:
Hello. I think the proper use of our time is

##vote shining

Statistically it has to be time


100% townread based on nothing last game I play with you.


Last game: Farah town, hard read based on not much, Shining obvious town.
This game: Farah ?, Shining mafia.

180 in gameplay = 180 in alignment

Obviously mafia.

##vote: Farahblackwing

Soooo mafia. Lynch today!


2.

Show nested quote +
On November 16 2015 06:02 Eversince wrote:
On November 16 2015 05:48 The Shining wrote:
On November 16 2015 05:42 VisceraEyes wrote:
On November 16 2015 05:38 The Shining wrote:
On November 16 2015 05:33 VisceraEyes wrote:
On November 16 2015 05:13 Eversince wrote:
On November 16 2015 05:04 FarahBlackwing wrote:
Hello. I think the proper use of our time is

##vote shining

Statistically it has to be time


100% townread based on nothing last game I play with you.


Last game: Farah town, hard read based on not much, Shining obvious town.
This game: Farah ?, Shining mafia.

180 in gameplay = 180 in alignment

Obviously mafia.

##vote: Farahblackwing

Soooo mafia. Lynch today!

I actually like this a lot.

##Vote: Farahblackwing


What about it do you like? I see a short meta read based off of one newbie game, from a newbie. I wouldn't be nearly this confident in meta reading someone after just one game. And how do you know its even accurate? Did you check the last game or are you just blindly trusting to get on a wagon here?

I don't care if it's accurate - if they're mafia and lying someone will come in and say "Hey that's a lie" and I'll reevaluate then. At this point I'm taking the short meta read at face value, assuming it's true and taking the attempt as a townie attempt to find mafia - one that has possibly borne fruit.

So no, I'm not just "blindly" jumping on a wagon. I like this particular wagon for the reasons given and I like the person who started it, as indicated in my post.


So in other words, you're being lazy and following the word of someone that you've never played with before about someone youve never played with before. Got it.

Now if I go and say that I have a meta read on Eversince because as scum last game she just enters the thread and finds the scummiest looking thing she can and just hammers it into oblivion, which I think she could be doing here, what would you make of that? I want to see more than a short meta read on one person and no talk of other players before I even remotely believe she is town.


I came into thread picking at Kelsier for the argument between him and Moosy. Since I was mafia that game, I knew both where town, but what else to pick at? They had filled several pages of the game with useless rambling. How can you even say I hammered it into the ground? I dropped my Kelsier read in the following night phase. I only held on to Moosy because his lack of content provided an excuse to my mafia self to chase after.

I did play with Farah last game. You basically posted nothing for 80% of the game. She had an irreversible town read on you from early D1. So much so, I wish you HAD been mafia that game. Because if it had been you and not Vonthin, mafia would have easily won that game by killing Rels, and leaving you, Farah, and GB alive for lylo. Because Farah would not have voted you from D1 that game. I mentioned as much in QT about night kills because if Vonthin was left with Farah/Shining he would loss because neither would vote the other over him.

Other than that point, I see nothing wrong with he's done other than ploy at a sarcastical comment I made an hour into this game. Which you point that he hasn't a need to make it. That's true. But don't try to say that I'm playin' my mafia meta because I poke fun early into the game.


The bolded I assume refers to the initial post and makes sense to me like it was clear to me you werent being serious (apparently not to geiprt?)

3.
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On November 16 2015 06:30 Eversince wrote:
To clarify, The Shining lurked bad last game I played with.
Farah town reads him regardless.

This game, Farah mafia reads The Shining.
He had not even posted yet.

Yeh! It's completely different play! Buggers! Sorry for pointin' it out!


Then this is where you lose me. I don't really get why you explained a read that you just called sarcastic. Do you think the difference in play means anything for farahs alignment?

answers be here:+ Show Spoiler +

On November 16 2015 07:15 Eversince wrote:
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On November 16 2015 07:12 Breshke wrote:
Eversince can you explain this a little for me I am having trouble understanding.

1. You make this post

On November 16 2015 05:13 Eversince wrote:
On November 16 2015 05:04 FarahBlackwing wrote:
Hello. I think the proper use of our time is

##vote shining

Statistically it has to be time


100% townread based on nothing last game I play with you.


Last game: Farah town, hard read based on not much, Shining obvious town.
This game: Farah ?, Shining mafia.

180 in gameplay = 180 in alignment

Obviously mafia.

##vote: Farahblackwing

Soooo mafia. Lynch today!


2.

On November 16 2015 06:02 Eversince wrote:
On November 16 2015 05:48 The Shining wrote:
On November 16 2015 05:42 VisceraEyes wrote:
On November 16 2015 05:38 The Shining wrote:
On November 16 2015 05:33 VisceraEyes wrote:
On November 16 2015 05:13 Eversince wrote:
On November 16 2015 05:04 FarahBlackwing wrote:
Hello. I think the proper use of our time is

##vote shining

Statistically it has to be time


100% townread based on nothing last game I play with you.


Last game: Farah town, hard read based on not much, Shining obvious town.
This game: Farah ?, Shining mafia.

180 in gameplay = 180 in alignment

Obviously mafia.

##vote: Farahblackwing

Soooo mafia. Lynch today!

I actually like this a lot.

##Vote: Farahblackwing


What about it do you like? I see a short meta read based off of one newbie game, from a newbie. I wouldn't be nearly this confident in meta reading someone after just one game. And how do you know its even accurate? Did you check the last game or are you just blindly trusting to get on a wagon here?

I don't care if it's accurate - if they're mafia and lying someone will come in and say "Hey that's a lie" and I'll reevaluate then. At this point I'm taking the short meta read at face value, assuming it's true and taking the attempt as a townie attempt to find mafia - one that has possibly borne fruit.

So no, I'm not just "blindly" jumping on a wagon. I like this particular wagon for the reasons given and I like the person who started it, as indicated in my post.


So in other words, you're being lazy and following the word of someone that you've never played with before about someone youve never played with before. Got it.

Now if I go and say that I have a meta read on Eversince because as scum last game she just enters the thread and finds the scummiest looking thing she can and just hammers it into oblivion, which I think she could be doing here, what would you make of that? I want to see more than a short meta read on one person and no talk of other players before I even remotely believe she is town.


I came into thread picking at Kelsier for the argument between him and Moosy. Since I was mafia that game, I knew both where town, but what else to pick at? They had filled several pages of the game with useless rambling. How can you even say I hammered it into the ground? I dropped my Kelsier read in the following night phase. I only held on to Moosy because his lack of content provided an excuse to my mafia self to chase after.

I did play with Farah last game. You basically posted nothing for 80% of the game. She had an irreversible town read on you from early D1. So much so, I wish you HAD been mafia that game. Because if it had been you and not Vonthin, mafia would have easily won that game by killing Rels, and leaving you, Farah, and GB alive for lylo. Because Farah would not have voted you from D1 that game. I mentioned as much in QT about night kills because if Vonthin was left with Farah/Shining he would loss because neither would vote the other over him.

Other than that point, I see nothing wrong with he's done other than ploy at a sarcastical comment I made an hour into this game. Which you point that he hasn't a need to make it. That's true. But don't try to say that I'm playin' my mafia meta because I poke fun early into the game.


The bolded I assume refers to the initial post and makes sense to me like it was clear to me you werent being serious (apparently not to geiprt?)

3.
On November 16 2015 06:30 Eversince wrote:
To clarify, The Shining lurked bad last game I played with.
Farah town reads him regardless.

This game, Farah mafia reads The Shining.
He had not even posted yet.

Yeh! It's completely different play! Buggers! Sorry for pointin' it out!


Then this is where you lose me. I don't really get why you explained a read that you just called sarcastic. Do you think the difference in play means anything for farahs alignment?


1. Yeh,
2. It was in reference to my first post.
3. No I don't think Farah is mafia at this point. Her early play I took as play, and she's done nothin' else to make me consider her as mafia. The only thing she's done is question me on something I did. I answered her. And she responded to me. I liked it.



On November 16 2015 07:20 Eversince wrote:
Ohhh I think I mis-understood point 3.

I had to explain it because The Shining is poking at me for poking at Farah. I was only tryin' for cheap laughs, said as much, and still am being painted black because I said it. So I spelled it out as simply as I could understand how to. Showing my thoughts and reasoning for why I did what I did...




Kind of town lean mor like a I don't scum read him now for it.. I got a bit confused and thought eversince was trying to defend their read with that third quote but as explained that was't the case and I can understand wanting to not be hassled over a joke you make in one of your first few posts.

I don't think Shining is mafia for getting all nit picky though because I actually think his confidence early

On November 16 2015 05:58 The Shining wrote:
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On November 16 2015 05:52 geript wrote:
I don't like Shining. He feels really different; not because he's posting a bit more than I remember him. His posting just seems off and not pointed to me.


You're just mad that my first scum win was against you while I was super lurky. It's OK, I understand. Please explain what you mean by not pointed? I'm asking questions to flesh out my reads, since nothing else is happening for me to read/react on.

Also, since you bring up my posting frequency, you should know that my activity depends heavily on what day of the week it is and how busy work is. I almost never have time to play on Monday/Tuesday and today is Sunday so I want to get the most out of my playing time today.


Like especially this post, the second paragraph is whatever but he had just been getting grilled by VE and then geript comes in saying he doesn't like him as well and he taunts him. Seems kind of suicidal if he was mafia.

Is anyone about?






ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
November 16 2015 05:23 GMT
#378
kinda here
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
November 16 2015 05:32 GMT
#379
idk about that shining post you quoted there breshke. you're like "second paragraph is whatever"; the second paragraph is an excuse wrapped in self-aware meta. no bueno. plus i don't think he is nitpicky....i think he doesn't care about his reads, he is just giving them out of his ass.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
November 16 2015 05:34 GMT
#380
On November 16 2015 14:32 ritoky wrote:
idk about that shining post you quoted there breshke. you're like "second paragraph is whatever"; the second paragraph is an excuse wrapped in self-aware meta. no bueno. plus i don't think he is nitpicky....i think he doesn't care about his reads, he is just giving them out of his ass.

Yah. That's a really odd construction. "I really like this post... The second half is meh."
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