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ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
November 15 2015 22:31 GMT
#341
my thoughts are 3 posts above good sir, tis you who have failed to read
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
November 15 2015 22:33 GMT
#342
On November 16 2015 06:14 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2015 06:11 FarahBlackwing wrote:
That's what your going to get geript that's my read and idc if it is not adequate for you.

No. I'm going to get more because your answer didn't say anything. Explain why those things make him town to you. Especially off of 1 (maybe 2) games experience.


On November 16 2015 06:21 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2015 06:13 FarahBlackwing wrote:
On November 16 2015 06:08 disformation wrote:
On November 16 2015 06:05 FarahBlackwing wrote:
On November 16 2015 05:59 geript wrote:
On November 16 2015 05:58 FarahBlackwing wrote:
##unvote

Ok I have my read now.

Why shouldn't I dos something earlto try to obtain any type of formative reads or understanding when everyone was just saying hi.

So what's your read and how did you reach it?


Shining is town based on general activity, somewhat emotional responses based on things happening in game. His posts sound like someone struggling o try to get his point across rather than someone trying to fit in.

Pretty sure he's town at least for now.


Do you mean to say that Shining posts much more as town? Could someone else confirm this? Don't remember playing with Shining.


From reading his past games he is slightly more posty but he's more mechanical as scum and lacks emotional responses about in game situations and it generally comes later after post a than in sync with the thread. This view comes from research and talking with people who know how to read him

Not a huge fan of this heuristic but I can understand where it comes from. I think it's really poor to apply here.


yo geript, wtf happened here? gimme more you fucker -> super agreeable but you're wrong. like wha?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
Eversince
Profile Joined October 2015
Philippines2301 Posts
November 15 2015 22:35 GMT
#343
Ooops! So I did! Mind expanding on your Shining and Trfel reads though? Shining I can understand but you leave out the conversation between him, others, and myself.

And Trfel I just can't follow at all atm moment in all honesty. I can't even remember him postin' yet.
So a catch up on important things wold be fantastic.
Life's too short to be black and white. Make the world tie-dye!
FarahBlackwing
Profile Joined October 2015
270 Posts
November 15 2015 22:35 GMT
#344
Doesn't geript have a tendency ritoky (from some things I've read) to always read ve fast?
Eversince
Profile Joined October 2015
Philippines2301 Posts
November 15 2015 22:37 GMT
#345
General update: I am going to get taken out of here anytime within' the next hour. If I disappear without warning, that's why. I'll get back as soon as I can.
Life's too short to be black and white. Make the world tie-dye!
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
November 15 2015 22:44 GMT
#346
On November 16 2015 07:35 Eversince wrote:
Ooops! So I did! Mind expanding on your Shining and Trfel reads though? Shining I can understand but you leave out the conversation between him, others, and myself.

And Trfel I just can't follow at all atm moment in all honesty. I can't even remember him postin' yet.
So a catch up on important things wold be fantastic.


what is there to expand on?

trfel is pushing something stupid. (btw he made a half case on VE so uhhhh think you missed that too) he could be mafia cuz it is stupid. he could be a donkey because he is pushing it rather than just stating it. time will tell i suppose.

shining insta-reads trfel for the worst reason in the entire thread: "he posted a 1 liner" which trfel then posts a half case on VE, which is crap. shining then posts about other stuff and never revisits his trfel read which has just been rendered worthless. that's a guy posting reads to post reads not because he believes or has any conviction in them.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
November 15 2015 22:51 GMT
#347
On November 16 2015 06:17 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2015 06:13 FarahBlackwing wrote:
On November 16 2015 06:08 disformation wrote:
On November 16 2015 06:05 FarahBlackwing wrote:
On November 16 2015 05:59 geript wrote:
On November 16 2015 05:58 FarahBlackwing wrote:
##unvote

Ok I have my read now.

Why shouldn't I dos something earlto try to obtain any type of formative reads or understanding when everyone was just saying hi.

So what's your read and how did you reach it?


Shining is town based on general activity, somewhat emotional responses based on things happening in game. His posts sound like someone struggling o try to get his point across rather than someone trying to fit in.

Pretty sure he's town at least for now.


Do you mean to say that Shining posts much more as town? Could someone else confirm this? Don't remember playing with Shining.


From reading his past games he is slightly more posty but he's more mechanical as scum and lacks emotional responses about in game situations and it generally comes later after post a than in sync with the thread. This view comes from research and talking with people who know how to read him


Alright, thanks.
Will probably have to look at a few Shining maffay games myself.


quoting for empty promise potential.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
FarahBlackwing
Profile Joined October 2015
270 Posts
November 15 2015 23:01 GMT
#348
Ritoky I'll skip to the Chase, why are you giving geript credit for a read that's null for him? Wouldn't he make that exact same read as scum to get ve on his side either way
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
November 15 2015 23:03 GMT
#349
On November 16 2015 08:01 FarahBlackwing wrote:
Ritoky I'll skip to the Chase, why are you giving geript credit for a read that's null for him? Wouldn't he make that exact same read as scum to get ve on his side either way


cuz i think he's right and that's half the battle
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
November 15 2015 23:04 GMT
#350
On November 16 2015 07:51 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2015 06:17 disformation wrote:
On November 16 2015 06:13 FarahBlackwing wrote:
On November 16 2015 06:08 disformation wrote:
On November 16 2015 06:05 FarahBlackwing wrote:
On November 16 2015 05:59 geript wrote:
On November 16 2015 05:58 FarahBlackwing wrote:
##unvote

Ok I have my read now.

Why shouldn't I dos something earlto try to obtain any type of formative reads or understanding when everyone was just saying hi.

So what's your read and how did you reach it?


Shining is town based on general activity, somewhat emotional responses based on things happening in game. His posts sound like someone struggling o try to get his point across rather than someone trying to fit in.

Pretty sure he's town at least for now.


Do you mean to say that Shining posts much more as town? Could someone else confirm this? Don't remember playing with Shining.


From reading his past games he is slightly more posty but he's more mechanical as scum and lacks emotional responses about in game situations and it generally comes later after post a than in sync with the thread. This view comes from research and talking with people who know how to read him


Alright, thanks.
Will probably have to look at a few Shining maffay games myself.


quoting for empty promise potential.


Should have said "maybe, if two suns rise tomorrow morning will I look at some past games."
Nah, for realz, he only has two maffay games in the database, so I will be looking at those next.

Despite me saying that I don't recall playing with The Shining we were both town in NSM IX. So I am currently reading both our filters from that game trying to recall stuff.
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
November 15 2015 23:09 GMT
#351
On November 16 2015 08:04 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2015 07:51 ritoky wrote:
On November 16 2015 06:17 disformation wrote:
On November 16 2015 06:13 FarahBlackwing wrote:
On November 16 2015 06:08 disformation wrote:
On November 16 2015 06:05 FarahBlackwing wrote:
On November 16 2015 05:59 geript wrote:
On November 16 2015 05:58 FarahBlackwing wrote:
##unvote

Ok I have my read now.

Why shouldn't I dos something earlto try to obtain any type of formative reads or understanding when everyone was just saying hi.

So what's your read and how did you reach it?


Shining is town based on general activity, somewhat emotional responses based on things happening in game. His posts sound like someone struggling o try to get his point across rather than someone trying to fit in.

Pretty sure he's town at least for now.


Do you mean to say that Shining posts much more as town? Could someone else confirm this? Don't remember playing with Shining.


From reading his past games he is slightly more posty but he's more mechanical as scum and lacks emotional responses about in game situations and it generally comes later after post a than in sync with the thread. This view comes from research and talking with people who know how to read him


Alright, thanks.
Will probably have to look at a few Shining maffay games myself.


quoting for empty promise potential.


Should have said "maybe, if two suns rise tomorrow morning will I look at some past games."
Nah, for realz, he only has two maffay games in the database, so I will be looking at those next.

Despite me saying that I don't recall playing with The Shining we were both town in NSM IX. So I am currently reading both our filters from that game trying to recall stuff.


that's cool, i expect content later though.

however before you finish that i am more interested on your thoughts on the actual game, not how it relates to previous games. who do you think is town? who is mafia? who is bad? who's ego is too big? y'kno....the usual
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
FarahBlackwing
Profile Joined October 2015
270 Posts
November 15 2015 23:09 GMT
#352
On November 16 2015 08:03 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2015 08:01 FarahBlackwing wrote:
Ritoky I'll skip to the Chase, why are you giving geript credit for a read that's null for him? Wouldn't he make that exact same read as scum to get ve on his side either way


cuz i think he's right and that's half the battle


But why does being right guarantee town and the inverse if I disagreed witha thought that would make me mafia yes?
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
November 15 2015 23:16 GMT
#353
On November 16 2015 08:09 FarahBlackwing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2015 08:03 ritoky wrote:
On November 16 2015 08:01 FarahBlackwing wrote:
Ritoky I'll skip to the Chase, why are you giving geript credit for a read that's null for him? Wouldn't he make that exact same read as scum to get ve on his side either way


cuz i think he's right and that's half the battle


But why does being right guarantee town and the inverse if I disagreed witha thought that would make me mafia yes?


right has a higher rate of making someone town than wrong has of making them mafia. but i digress from mafia philosophy.

i don't see a point to your line of questioning. he made a read at the same time i made a read, mind meld -> town points. but it was an easy read, so less town points. pretty basic.

"but ritoky he makes that read regardless of alignment!!!!!!?!?!?!?!?!"

cool beans, doesn't change my read.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
FarahBlackwing
Profile Joined October 2015
270 Posts
November 15 2015 23:20 GMT
#354
And I don't get most of your reads, so I suppose we are at a stale mate where even you question your town read but are to stubborn to say your right to me.

Cool beans
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
November 15 2015 23:22 GMT
#355
On November 16 2015 08:20 FarahBlackwing wrote:
And I don't get most of your reads, so I suppose we are at a stale mate where even you question your town read but are to stubborn to say your right to me.

Cool beans


i said he gets less town points than he deserves from the very start? like wha wha wha?

so am i mafia or town or? you didn't arrive at a conclusion from your questioning/pushing.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
November 15 2015 23:24 GMT
#356
Okay, fine, I'll bite.

WHY do you two think that my read on VisceraEyes is bad?
FarahBlackwing
Profile Joined October 2015
270 Posts
November 15 2015 23:24 GMT
#357
Doesn't matter if I've come to any conclusion on you, I don't have Damdreds amazing ability to read you, neither do I understand it so I'll take my time.
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
November 15 2015 23:27 GMT
#358
On November 16 2015 08:24 FarahBlackwing wrote:
Doesn't matter if I've come to any conclusion on you, I don't have Damdreds amazing ability to read you, neither do I understand it so I'll take my time.


i think you're obsessing over pointless nuance a bit too much and hope you arrive at a big picture place later; cuz your stubbornness turns me on in a town way. everyone knows i love to be told to go fuck myself.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
November 15 2015 23:30 GMT
#359
On November 16 2015 08:09 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2015 08:04 disformation wrote:
On November 16 2015 07:51 ritoky wrote:
On November 16 2015 06:17 disformation wrote:
On November 16 2015 06:13 FarahBlackwing wrote:
On November 16 2015 06:08 disformation wrote:
On November 16 2015 06:05 FarahBlackwing wrote:
On November 16 2015 05:59 geript wrote:
On November 16 2015 05:58 FarahBlackwing wrote:
##unvote

Ok I have my read now.

Why shouldn't I dos something earlto try to obtain any type of formative reads or understanding when everyone was just saying hi.

So what's your read and how did you reach it?


Shining is town based on general activity, somewhat emotional responses based on things happening in game. His posts sound like someone struggling o try to get his point across rather than someone trying to fit in.

Pretty sure he's town at least for now.


Do you mean to say that Shining posts much more as town? Could someone else confirm this? Don't remember playing with Shining.


From reading his past games he is slightly more posty but he's more mechanical as scum and lacks emotional responses about in game situations and it generally comes later after post a than in sync with the thread. This view comes from research and talking with people who know how to read him


Alright, thanks.
Will probably have to look at a few Shining maffay games myself.


quoting for empty promise potential.


Should have said "maybe, if two suns rise tomorrow morning will I look at some past games."
Nah, for realz, he only has two maffay games in the database, so I will be looking at those next.

Despite me saying that I don't recall playing with The Shining we were both town in NSM IX. So I am currently reading both our filters from that game trying to recall stuff.


that's cool, i expect content later though.

however before you finish that i am more interested on your thoughts on the actual game, not how it relates to previous games. who do you think is town? who is mafia? who is bad? who's ego is too big? y'kno....the usual


Fair enough. Since I haven't played with the shining much, I am not that confident I will find amazing things in those old games. But I did try and pressure him in NSM9 a few times because I felt like he wasn't doing much. He was town in this game. So I am already not too sure about the meta read. His filter length in "Battle of the Drams", where he was mafia, is pretty similar to the one in NSM9, too...

Well, back to this game:
As stated before I have a town lean on geript for driving the game and prodding ppl into explaining stuff.
Trfel.. kinda strange reaction to VE's uh... lets call it a poke. Not sure if his knee jerk reaction is maffay or town motivated.
FF: null. Only reaction so far is to me having his name in a post. Lurking?
ritoky: Getting an investigating/engaging/driving the thread feel, so town lean.

The early discussion stuff with Eversince, Farah, The Shining and VE was a bit strange to me, since I read the early posts by Eversince and Farah as jokes to get stuff going (well: mission accomplished).
Not sure about VE, but both ppl I have as a town lean, say he is town based on meta, so I'll probably be a lazy cunt and sheep them (for now).
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
November 15 2015 23:33 GMT
#360
I'm not really reading too closely. Watching CFL with my dad and bro. Tone/feel reads telling me farah is town, geript is town, disform is mafia ever is towny...

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