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On November 16 2015 05:52 geript wrote:
I don't like Shining. He feels really different; not because he's posting a bit more than I remember him. His posting just seems off and not pointed to me.
You're just mad that my first scum win was against you while I was super lurky. It's OK, I understand. Please explain what you mean by not pointed? I'm asking questions to flesh out my reads, since nothing else is happening for me to read/react on.
Also, since you bring up my posting frequency, you should know that my activity depends heavily on what day of the week it is and how busy work is. I almost never have time to play on Monday/Tuesday and today is Sunday so I want to get the most out of my playing time today.
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Ok I have my read now.
Why shouldn't I dos something earlto try to obtain any type of formative reads or understanding when everyone was just saying hi.
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On November 16 2015 05:58 FarahBlackwing wrote:
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Ok I have my read now.
Why shouldn't I dos something earlto try to obtain any type of formative reads or understanding when everyone was just saying hi.
So what's your read and how did you reach it?
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On November 16 2015 05:48 The Shining wrote:Show nested quote +On November 16 2015 05:42 VisceraEyes wrote:On November 16 2015 05:38 The Shining wrote:On November 16 2015 05:33 VisceraEyes wrote:On November 16 2015 05:13 Eversince wrote:On November 16 2015 05:04 FarahBlackwing wrote:
Hello. I think the proper use of our time is
##vote shining
Statistically it has to be time 100% townread based on nothing last game I play with you. Last game: Farah town, hard read based on not much, Shining obvious town. This game: Farah ?, Shining mafia. 180 in gameplay = 180 in alignment Obviously mafia. ##vote: FarahblackwingSoooo mafia. Lynch today! I actually like this a lot. ##Vote: Farahblackwing What about it do you like? I see a short meta read based off of one newbie game, from a newbie. I wouldn't be nearly this confident in meta reading someone after just one game. And how do you know its even accurate? Did you check the last game or are you just blindly trusting to get on a wagon here? I don't care if it's accurate - if they're mafia and lying someone will come in and say "Hey that's a lie" and I'll reevaluate then. At this point I'm taking the short meta read at face value, assuming it's true and taking the attempt as a townie attempt to find mafia - one that has possibly borne fruit. So no, I'm not just "blindly" jumping on a wagon. I like this particular wagon for the reasons given and I like the person who started it, as indicated in my post. So in other words, you're being lazy and following the word of someone that you've never played with before about someone youve never played with before. Got it. Now if I go and say that I have a meta read on Eversince because as scum last game she just enters the thread and finds the scummiest looking thing she can and just hammers it into oblivion, which I think she could be doing here, what would you make of that? I want to see more than a short meta read on one person and no talk of other players before I even remotely believe she is town.
I came into thread picking at Kelsier for the argument between him and Moosy. Since I was mafia that game, I knew both where town, but what else to pick at? They had filled several pages of the game with useless rambling. How can you even say I hammered it into the ground? I dropped my Kelsier read in the following night phase. I only held on to Moosy because his lack of content provided an excuse to my mafia self to chase after.
I did play with Farah last game. You basically posted nothing for 80% of the game. She had an irreversible town read on you from early D1. So much so, I wish you HAD been mafia that game. Because if it had been you and not Vonthin, mafia would have easily won that game by killing Rels, and leaving you, Farah, and GB alive for lylo. Because Farah would not have voted you from D1 that game. I mentioned as much in QT about night kills because if Vonthin was left with Farah/Shining he would loss because neither would vote the other over him.
Other than that point, I see nothing wrong with he's done other than ploy at a sarcastical comment I made an hour into this game. Which you point that he hasn't a need to make it. That's true. But don't try to say that I'm playin' my mafia meta because I poke fun early into the game.
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Ok I have my read now.
Why shouldn't I dos something earlto try to obtain any type of formative reads or understanding when everyone was just saying hi.
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On November 16 2015 05:59 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On November 16 2015 05:58 FarahBlackwing wrote:
##unvote
Ok I have my read now.
Why shouldn't I dos something earlto try to obtain any type of formative reads or understanding when everyone was just saying hi. So what's your read and how did you reach it?
Esplain yo
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On November 16 2015 05:59 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On November 16 2015 05:58 FarahBlackwing wrote:
##unvote
Ok I have my read now.
Why shouldn't I dos something earlto try to obtain any type of formative reads or understanding when everyone was just saying hi. So what's your read and how did you reach it?
Shining is town based on general activity, somewhat emotional responses based on things happening in game. His posts sound like someone struggling o try to get his point across rather than someone trying to fit in.
Pretty sure he's town at least for now.
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Like right now a bunch of posts and discussion have appeared and yet, just like I said, Eversince voted Farrah, mentioned no one else and is now gone. I don't like that because it's exactly what scum Eversince did when she came into thread last game.
And VE you claim a lot of people posted already so here's a list for you.
Scott, Moosy, Breshke, nocturne, ritoky, Trfel. Half the game still hasn't shown up so saying "so many" have posted and i should have townreads is just discrediting me and my playstyle. And fecal has made useless posts. Disformation asked a pointless question about FF just waking up, as if its alignment indicative and a joke vote proposal on voting Scott. These things are early enough for me to find them null until I see what they actually do.
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On November 16 2015 06:05 FarahBlackwing wrote:Show nested quote +On November 16 2015 05:59 geript wrote:On November 16 2015 05:58 FarahBlackwing wrote:
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Ok I have my read now.
Why shouldn't I dos something earlto try to obtain any type of formative reads or understanding when everyone was just saying hi. So what's your read and how did you reach it? Shining is town based on general activity, somewhat emotional responses based on things happening in game. His posts sound like someone struggling o try to get his point across rather than someone trying to fit in. Pretty sure he's town at least for now.
Do you mean to say that Shining posts much more as town? Could someone else confirm this? Don't remember playing with Shining.
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On November 16 2015 05:50 geript wrote:
I'm not voting for VE ever. You're going to need to explain this.
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On November 16 2015 06:05 FarahBlackwing wrote:Show nested quote +On November 16 2015 05:59 geript wrote:On November 16 2015 05:58 FarahBlackwing wrote:
##unvote
Ok I have my read now.
Why shouldn't I dos something earlto try to obtain any type of formative reads or understanding when everyone was just saying hi. So what's your read and how did you reach it? Shining is town based on general activity, somewhat emotional responses based on things happening in game. His posts sound like someone struggling o try to get his point across rather than someone trying to fit in. Pretty sure he's town at least for now.
This is basically a bullshit useless answer. Try again.
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On November 16 2015 06:02 Eversince wrote:Show nested quote +On November 16 2015 05:48 The Shining wrote:On November 16 2015 05:42 VisceraEyes wrote:On November 16 2015 05:38 The Shining wrote:On November 16 2015 05:33 VisceraEyes wrote:On November 16 2015 05:13 Eversince wrote:On November 16 2015 05:04 FarahBlackwing wrote:
Hello. I think the proper use of our time is
##vote shining
Statistically it has to be time 100% townread based on nothing last game I play with you. Last game: Farah town, hard read based on not much, Shining obvious town. This game: Farah ?, Shining mafia. 180 in gameplay = 180 in alignment Obviously mafia. ##vote: FarahblackwingSoooo mafia. Lynch today! I actually like this a lot. ##Vote: Farahblackwing What about it do you like? I see a short meta read based off of one newbie game, from a newbie. I wouldn't be nearly this confident in meta reading someone after just one game. And how do you know its even accurate? Did you check the last game or are you just blindly trusting to get on a wagon here? I don't care if it's accurate - if they're mafia and lying someone will come in and say "Hey that's a lie" and I'll reevaluate then. At this point I'm taking the short meta read at face value, assuming it's true and taking the attempt as a townie attempt to find mafia - one that has possibly borne fruit. So no, I'm not just "blindly" jumping on a wagon. I like this particular wagon for the reasons given and I like the person who started it, as indicated in my post. So in other words, you're being lazy and following the word of someone that you've never played with before about someone youve never played with before. Got it. Now if I go and say that I have a meta read on Eversince because as scum last game she just enters the thread and finds the scummiest looking thing she can and just hammers it into oblivion, which I think she could be doing here, what would you make of that? I want to see more than a short meta read on one person and no talk of other players before I even remotely believe she is town. I came into thread picking at Kelsier for the argument between him and Moosy. Since I was mafia that game, I knew both where town, but what else to pick at? They had filled several pages of the game with useless rambling. How can you even say I hammered it into the ground? I dropped my Kelsier read in the following night phase. I only held on to Moosy because his lack of content provided an excuse to my mafia self to chase after. I did play with Farah last game. You basically posted nothing for 80% of the game. She had an irreversible town read on you from early D1. So much so, I wish you HAD been mafia that game. Because if it had been you and not Vonthin, mafia would have easily won that game by killing Rels, and leaving you, Farah, and GB alive for lylo. Because Farah would not have voted you from D1 that game. I mentioned as much in QT about night kills because if Vonthin was left with Farah/Shining he would loss because neither would vote the other over him. Other than that point, I see nothing wrong with he's done other than ploy at a sarcastical comment I made an hour into this game. Which you point that he hasn't a need to make it. That's true. But don't try to say that I'm playin' my mafia meta because I poke fun early into the game.
4 minutes ago. How am I gone again? Also yeh, I will be vacant most of the following day. I said in pre-game I hurt myself badly. I had a surgery last night, another one in about 3 and a half hours, and a third after that, whenever I show stable again. Sorry the doctors won't pump me full of so much anesthesia, while inflicting massive amounts of trauma, to kill me to do it all at once.
Fishy.
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That's what your going to get geript that's my read and idc if it is not adequate for you.
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Best of luck with your surgery, Eversince.
FarahBlackwing, do you have a read on geript?
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On November 16 2015 06:09 Trfel wrote:You're going to need to explain this.
Read other VE games. He's really easy to read when he gets semi active. Part of it is based in the fact that VE and I scum hunt rather differently. He takes on an egocentric (in the technical sense not in the asshole sense) view of other players; i.e. How he acts when he's scum and applies it to them. So when you see him jump on certain things in an accusatory way (especially when he's not trying to assream them) he's almost always town.
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On November 16 2015 06:02 Eversince wrote:Show nested quote +On November 16 2015 05:48 The Shining wrote:On November 16 2015 05:42 VisceraEyes wrote:On November 16 2015 05:38 The Shining wrote:On November 16 2015 05:33 VisceraEyes wrote:On November 16 2015 05:13 Eversince wrote:On November 16 2015 05:04 FarahBlackwing wrote:
Hello. I think the proper use of our time is
##vote shining
Statistically it has to be time 100% townread based on nothing last game I play with you. Last game: Farah town, hard read based on not much, Shining obvious town. This game: Farah ?, Shining mafia. 180 in gameplay = 180 in alignment Obviously mafia. ##vote: FarahblackwingSoooo mafia. Lynch today! I actually like this a lot. ##Vote: Farahblackwing What about it do you like? I see a short meta read based off of one newbie game, from a newbie. I wouldn't be nearly this confident in meta reading someone after just one game. And how do you know its even accurate? Did you check the last game or are you just blindly trusting to get on a wagon here? I don't care if it's accurate - if they're mafia and lying someone will come in and say "Hey that's a lie" and I'll reevaluate then. At this point I'm taking the short meta read at face value, assuming it's true and taking the attempt as a townie attempt to find mafia - one that has possibly borne fruit. So no, I'm not just "blindly" jumping on a wagon. I like this particular wagon for the reasons given and I like the person who started it, as indicated in my post. So in other words, you're being lazy and following the word of someone that you've never played with before about someone youve never played with before. Got it. Now if I go and say that I have a meta read on Eversince because as scum last game she just enters the thread and finds the scummiest looking thing she can and just hammers it into oblivion, which I think she could be doing here, what would you make of that? I want to see more than a short meta read on one person and no talk of other players before I even remotely believe she is town. I came into thread picking at Kelsier for the argument between him and Moosy. Since I was mafia that game, I knew both where town, but what else to pick at? They had filled several pages of the game with useless rambling. How can you even say I hammered it into the ground? I dropped my Kelsier read in the following night phase. I only held on to Moosy because his lack of content provided an excuse to my mafia self to chase after. I did play with Farah last game. You basically posted nothing for 80% of the game. She had an irreversible town read on you from early D1. So much so, I wish you HAD been mafia that game. Because if it had been you and not Vonthin, mafia would have easily won that game by killing Rels, and leaving you, Farah, and GB alive for lylo. Because Farah would not have voted you from D1 that game. I mentioned as much in QT about night kills because if Vonthin was left with Farah/Shining he would loss because neither would vote the other over him. Other than that point, I see nothing wrong with he's done other than ploy at a sarcastical comment I made an hour into this game. Which you point that he hasn't a need to make it. That's true. But don't try to say that I'm playin' my mafia meta because I poke fun early into the game.
Then you disappeared and came back into the thread and tried to pick on me for "posting nothing" when I was actually posting and playing when I was around. I also singlehandedly won that game in triple lylo, thanks for reminding me. But I was referring to you trying to hammer me and Farrah into the ground for her TR on me.
And you were scum with perfect information so that second paragraph is kinda pointless to read into. All I'll say is you're faulting someone for having a good way of correctly reading me. If you're town this time around, you have to accept that some people are going to be adamant about their reads on either alignment. Being wishy washy just makes you look scummy.
That being said, this post is much more townie than the last one. So you have a meta read on Farrah. What are your thoughts on Viscera and his sheeping you?
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On November 16 2015 06:11 FarahBlackwing wrote:
That's what your going to get geript that's my read and idc if it is not adequate for you.
Could you at least explain the "Shining is town based on general activity" part for me? Like is that a meta read as in "his activity as mafia is much lower" or do you just like that he is this active early on? Or maybe something else I don't see? 
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On November 16 2015 06:08 disformation wrote:Show nested quote +On November 16 2015 06:05 FarahBlackwing wrote:On November 16 2015 05:59 geript wrote:On November 16 2015 05:58 FarahBlackwing wrote:
##unvote
Ok I have my read now.
Why shouldn't I dos something earlto try to obtain any type of formative reads or understanding when everyone was just saying hi. So what's your read and how did you reach it? Shining is town based on general activity, somewhat emotional responses based on things happening in game. His posts sound like someone struggling o try to get his point across rather than someone trying to fit in. Pretty sure he's town at least for now. Do you mean to say that Shining posts much more as town? Could someone else confirm this? Don't remember playing with Shining.
From reading his past games he is slightly more posty but he's more mechanical as scum and lacks emotional responses about in game situations and it generally comes later after post a than in sync with the thread. This view comes from research and talking with people who know how to read him
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On November 16 2015 06:11 Eversince wrote:Show nested quote +On November 16 2015 06:02 Eversince wrote:On November 16 2015 05:48 The Shining wrote:On November 16 2015 05:42 VisceraEyes wrote:On November 16 2015 05:38 The Shining wrote:On November 16 2015 05:33 VisceraEyes wrote:On November 16 2015 05:13 Eversince wrote:On November 16 2015 05:04 FarahBlackwing wrote:
Hello. I think the proper use of our time is
##vote shining
Statistically it has to be time 100% townread based on nothing last game I play with you. Last game: Farah town, hard read based on not much, Shining obvious town. This game: Farah ?, Shining mafia. 180 in gameplay = 180 in alignment Obviously mafia. ##vote: FarahblackwingSoooo mafia. Lynch today! I actually like this a lot. ##Vote: Farahblackwing What about it do you like? I see a short meta read based off of one newbie game, from a newbie. I wouldn't be nearly this confident in meta reading someone after just one game. And how do you know its even accurate? Did you check the last game or are you just blindly trusting to get on a wagon here? I don't care if it's accurate - if they're mafia and lying someone will come in and say "Hey that's a lie" and I'll reevaluate then. At this point I'm taking the short meta read at face value, assuming it's true and taking the attempt as a townie attempt to find mafia - one that has possibly borne fruit. So no, I'm not just "blindly" jumping on a wagon. I like this particular wagon for the reasons given and I like the person who started it, as indicated in my post. So in other words, you're being lazy and following the word of someone that you've never played with before about someone youve never played with before. Got it. Now if I go and say that I have a meta read on Eversince because as scum last game she just enters the thread and finds the scummiest looking thing she can and just hammers it into oblivion, which I think she could be doing here, what would you make of that? I want to see more than a short meta read on one person and no talk of other players before I even remotely believe she is town. I came into thread picking at Kelsier for the argument between him and Moosy. Since I was mafia that game, I knew both where town, but what else to pick at? They had filled several pages of the game with useless rambling. How can you even say I hammered it into the ground? I dropped my Kelsier read in the following night phase. I only held on to Moosy because his lack of content provided an excuse to my mafia self to chase after. I did play with Farah last game. You basically posted nothing for 80% of the game. She had an irreversible town read on you from early D1. So much so, I wish you HAD been mafia that game. Because if it had been you and not Vonthin, mafia would have easily won that game by killing Rels, and leaving you, Farah, and GB alive for lylo. Because Farah would not have voted you from D1 that game. I mentioned as much in QT about night kills because if Vonthin was left with Farah/Shining he would loss because neither would vote the other over him. Other than that point, I see nothing wrong with he's done other than ploy at a sarcastical comment I made an hour into this game. Which you point that he hasn't a need to make it. That's true. But don't try to say that I'm playin' my mafia meta because I poke fun early into the game. 4 minutes ago. How am I gone again? Also yeh, I will be vacant most of the following day. I said in pre-game I hurt myself badly. I had a surgery last night, another one in about 3 and a half hours, and a third after that, whenever I show stable again. Sorry the doctors won't pump me full of so much anesthesia, while inflicting massive amounts of trauma, to kill me to do it all at once. Fishy.
Meh feel better then. I also wrote that post before I saw your post responding to me so its pretty much moot now. The Farrah vote post was the most recent post in your filter when I posted.
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