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raynpelikoneet
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On October 23 2015 05:42 Blazinghand wrote: Wait does rayn actually want to lynch me? I'm like P sure he hasn't voted me or tried to call me scum but I might have missed it brb dinner I wanted to before you started playing. I am not exactly townreading you but i wouldn't want to lynch you rn. | ||
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On October 23 2015 05:40 Onegu wrote: Rayn you still havent responded to why your yamato read changed. I don't want to respond to you. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
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I don't have to tell you anything. | ||
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Like i am pretty sure you are town but i am also pretty sure you're gonna get lynched because other people do not know why you are town and nothing i say can possibly change that. | ||
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On October 23 2015 05:50 Xatalos wrote: Really? Well, I guess we'll see as the game goes on. I'm relatively sure I got the right impression, and more so with some of BH's more recent posts. You having the right impressions (assuming it is right) has nothing to do with your towniness. Having the right impression from something you should not have any on the other hand does affect my read on you. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
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On October 23 2015 05:54 Xatalos wrote: You mean I could have tried to pocket him by giving him an easy townread as scum? Well, I can't deny I haven't done stuff like that as scum. I guess we'll just have to see that's not the case here. Although i find it impossible you and ritoky are mafia together. Blazinghand i am really not sure of. I would want him to give a scumread instead of townreads. If you are town game should be easy. | ||
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On October 23 2015 05:56 Xatalos wrote: Oh yeah, I'd also like to know how this read came to be btw From the post you quoted and the post before that. | ||
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On October 22 2015 07:26 Blazinghand wrote: "would you have done this if you were mafia?" --> the answer to this question is always "yes". I'm willing to lie, cheat, steal, doctor photographs, put items in boxes, fake plane tickets, pretend to have depression, a death in the family, etc, whatever it takes to win regardless of alignment. I'm one of the few players that does not pull punches as mafia. So yes, as mafia, I'd be fully willing to RNG if I percieved it to be a good idea (which it isn't; I've outlined why RNG is pro-town this game) Here is what bothers me Xatalos. You continue to townread Blazinghand fro his rng after he says this. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
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On October 23 2015 06:12 Xatalos wrote: So? He didn't even seem to realize that RNG-stuff was a "towntell" for him until after we started discussing the topic. What's more, even if he did, it wouldn't be so easy to fake the whole push and argue about it with that kind of conviction if he thought it was counter-productive for his faction (as scum). And well, he has just generally been active and producing posts I like. I don't really feel there's any reason to think he's null, let alone scum. Do you understand this is not about Blazinghand but you? Blazinghand does an rng vote. You townread him for it because you think (1) he wouldn't do that as mafia and (2) he feels excited about it and reasons his rng. (1) He literally says he could do that as mafia. If he is town here he is telling the truth (because why lie), if he is mafia here, well he did that as mafia. Both of the arguments on his faction should cancel your townread by default. (2) Blazinghand's argument for why rng is pro-town is literally bullshit and anyone who reads his posts knows that. I don't think that's alignment indicative for him, because he would defend the rng lynch he so likes as either alignment. You however fail to realize his argument for rng lynch being pro-town is literally "rng lynch hits mafia only slightly less than non-rng lynch". In fact, hey.. that makes rng lynch NOT PRO TOWN. This should cancel your townread on him aswell. Now, why did it not? | ||
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On October 23 2015 06:14 Xatalos wrote: Truthfully I'd be more interested to understand your incomprehensible reads on yamato and Hopeless.... I don't think explaining my reads on them important at the moment, unless you want to call either of them or me mafia. | ||
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On October 23 2015 06:27 ritoky wrote: depending on the setup of the game and the structure of PRs, yes. really? when he himself just argued it's less likely to hit mafia then not rng lycnhing? | ||
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raynpelikoneet
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On October 23 2015 06:34 Xatalos wrote: Well, read my last post.... Also, like I said, even if it might sound good in theory, he hasn't done that so far in his scumgames and it wouldn't probably be as easy in practise ESPECIALLY if the RNG hit his teammate. Do you feel like Blazinghand is pressuring me at the moment? Do you feel like i feel pressured? Do you thin kanyone whould feel pressured if the rng landed on them? | ||
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On October 23 2015 06:37 Xatalos wrote: Well, you did react a bit when you entered the thread. I think someone less experienced could well fall into panic as scum. In my first Mafia game there was a random vote pile on my teammate and he basically revealed himself by reacting weirdly. okay who would you say in this game would feel pressured, as in who are these "new scum players" you would refer to here? | ||
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On October 23 2015 06:38 ritoky wrote: it's actually equally as likely, so i disagree with your premise entirely. It's actually not. Mafia players are lynched 26.0% of the time on day one. Random lynching would result in a mafia lynch 25.2% of the time. Mafia players are lynched only 16.4% of the time in newbie games on day one, so excluding these games brings the overall day one lynch percentage up to 28.1%! I believe this is not a newbie game so you are just straight out lying. | ||
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On October 22 2015 07:08 ritoky wrote: generally speaking he doesn't rng as mafia, but i wouldn't put it past him to break meta. So you said he doesn't rng as mafia. Now you said if BH rng's he is 80% town. Does he or does he not rng as mafia? Because if he doesn't, why is he not 100% town? If he does, why is your read on him shit? | ||
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On October 23 2015 06:44 ritoky wrote: 2.9% is within the margin of error to where it is negligible. also those statistics include the RNG user including themself in the RNG rather than excluding. there is no margin of error. this is not a fucking poll, this is pure statistics and 100% correct. | ||
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#vote ritoky not gonna change my vote. ritoky is scum. good night. what a bunch of crap he is writing. | ||
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yamato i am pretty sure GlowingBear is town here. Basically he says really scummy shit that makes absolutely no sense as mafia, because he doesn't really know what to do at all (i assume). Here he has some sort of a thought process going on in his head. Basically it's highly unlike he is scum here. Same goes for Hopeless, he tried to do stuff. He is just doing it in his own way that looks scummy to basically everyone.. always. I am really really sure ritoky is mafia. I am also quite sure Slam is scum because of process of elimination. Xatalos is probably just really fucking dumb atm, but at least his explanation to BH thing makes some sense, unlike ritoky's. ritoky basically argues that Blazinghand is town based on illogical arguments, or arguments that are easily proven wrong. Like even if he believes those arguments are true the read is shit and arguing the read is good for those things is something that a townie never does. Last scum is probably Blazinghand or Onegu. I kinda think it's Onegu atm, since Blazinghand seems to be trying to do something and getting something out of his shennies at the start of the game. I don't believe gumshoe is scum, basically his reacation towards me doesn't make any sense as mafia. He is right in that i suually pressure him every game we are in and i know he acts differently when he is scum than when he is town. I just don't see him being scum here. Vivax is basically his own paranoid town self with a portion of good logical thoughts. marv is almost definitely town. you are almost definitely town. Chromatically seems to be the most level headed person in this game. It's like not totally out of question he is scum here but most likely he is just town as his posting suggests. | ||
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On October 23 2015 07:13 marvellosity wrote: i thought you told me ritoky was town? yeah that was yesterday. | ||
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