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On October 26 2015 07:55 Xatalos wrote:
I'd basically like to shoot these people right now if I had a gun....
- GB: completely static scumread on Vivax that's not affected by anything happening in the thread, and I actually noticed that marv disproved his reasoning during D1 (by showing that Vivax had made overly confident reads before) but that didn't affect anything... it just does indeed feel like he picked someone to scumread and continued calling him scum no matter what... + overall low effort and disinterest towards anything happening in the game... some of the nice posts he's made can't really absolve him at this point
- yamato: playing according to his scum meta (inactive, disinterested) - there's one town game where he was inactive as well, but mostly he's been relatively active and a good asset as town, there's nothing like that to be seen here....
- Onegu: gave a high townread for rayn, voted for him over his nullread at deadline when the lynch was still completely undecided.... just this alone I think is impossible for town, he did make an "RNG sheep" vote in a previous game but I just can't accept he would choose to vote for his (supposed) highest townread based on some meta-joke... it just shows that he has zero interest towards solving the game or doing anything... and he has refused to answer several questions from different players that probed into his nonsensical arguments over the game
- rayn: disinterested towards the lynch result of D1 (basically sheeping/OMGUSing away to whatever he could), then just started spamming/lurking and caring even less about scumhunting than before
So yeah, I'm basically content if any of these players ends up getting lynched right now.... It looks like we still have 3 mislynches even, so I doubt we can lose if we start by cleaning up this pile of scummy.
marv never disproved anything, marv disagreed with me, which is different.
And my read on Vivax progressed as he came back to the thread. It's all in my filter.
And no, I'm not mafia.
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Let me ask you something, Xatalos.
Will a tunneled townie forget about his scumread one day later?
Because Vivax called Yamato scum for being inactive (in less than 24 hours in the game). When yamato turned against me, Vivax gave him a very weird townread (it felt like a joke, Vivax said it was an actual townread).
Yamato is inactive now. Vivax never talks about him anymore. He only supports my lynch when people talk about it.
I can never see a world where Vivax isn't scum here. Never.
Especially now that yamato's inactivity IS indeed scummy, and he is doing nothing, and NOW he's fitting his scum meta.
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On October 26 2015 08:03 Chromatically wrote:Show nested quote +On October 26 2015 06:34 gumshoe wrote:On October 26 2015 06:18 Chromatically wrote:Uh what? On October 24 2015 01:00 GlowingBear wrote:
I think it's too early to lynch slam Your argument is that GB, as mafia, would never defend the lynch target like this because it would turn suspicion back towards him. This post is literally never going to convince anyone not to vote Slam. Like... as mafia he's 100% safe making this post because it will have 0 effect on whether people vote Slam or not. He says that Slam is town again later closer to lynch, but at that point there were 0 votes on GB and 4 on Slam, so GB isn't even a lynch target at all. You assume Gb is bieng totally level headed / : as a scum player, I personally feel tremendous fear to do things that directly contribute to my death or the death of my teamates. We can deduce that Gb was emotional, which is not impossible to be as scum (especially when your actually in a losing position, as opposed to where Rayn was) off his outburst in thread. When the Slam wagon switched, unless Gb is a tremedous actor immense releif would have rolled over him. To then have right away have the peace of mind to recognize your own powerlessness and do something that directly hurts your cause is something I do not think scum Gb could accomplish on his own, given his mental state, and I doubt he would be coached to do by his team. That and I read him as a fuck up townie, not a desperate scummer / : but thats more a feel thing that comes from lots of games of bieng a fuck up townie than anything else, so its harder to elaborate on. You're kind of telling a story here, and it's possible this story is actually true if you assume that GB is a very very emotional player and was very very scared by the possibility of the wagon being directed back to him and that he would just be unable to say anything to defend Slam for fear of being lynched. The simpler alternative is that GB just threw out a statement about Slam without worrying about it, knowing that it would have zero effect on the wagon on Slam and even less effect on the wagon on him.
This would be true if I didn't repeatedly say Slam is a guy that can be better read on later days. I'm sure that I said it at least once in my list post.
And I said that also in a game where I played with slam. The most recent one. I forgot the name.
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On October 26 2015 08:03 Xatalos wrote:Show nested quote +On October 26 2015 08:00 GlowingBear wrote:On October 26 2015 07:55 Xatalos wrote:
I'd basically like to shoot these people right now if I had a gun....
- GB: completely static scumread on Vivax that's not affected by anything happening in the thread, and I actually noticed that marv disproved his reasoning during D1 (by showing that Vivax had made overly confident reads before) but that didn't affect anything... it just does indeed feel like he picked someone to scumread and continued calling him scum no matter what... + overall low effort and disinterest towards anything happening in the game... some of the nice posts he's made can't really absolve him at this point
- yamato: playing according to his scum meta (inactive, disinterested) - there's one town game where he was inactive as well, but mostly he's been relatively active and a good asset as town, there's nothing like that to be seen here....
- Onegu: gave a high townread for rayn, voted for him over his nullread at deadline when the lynch was still completely undecided.... just this alone I think is impossible for town, he did make an "RNG sheep" vote in a previous game but I just can't accept he would choose to vote for his (supposed) highest townread based on some meta-joke... it just shows that he has zero interest towards solving the game or doing anything... and he has refused to answer several questions from different players that probed into his nonsensical arguments over the game
- rayn: disinterested towards the lynch result of D1 (basically sheeping/OMGUSing away to whatever he could), then just started spamming/lurking and caring even less about scumhunting than before
So yeah, I'm basically content if any of these players ends up getting lynched right now.... It looks like we still have 3 mislynches even, so I doubt we can lose if we start by cleaning up this pile of scummy. marv never disproved anything, marv disagreed with me, which is different. And my read on Vivax progressed as he came back to the thread. It's all in my filter. And no, I'm not mafia. Have you ever considered him to be town after the first minute...? I guess you did offer alternative lynches at times, like rayn. I'd really like to hear your overall reads right now.
Yes, I've tried to read him coming from a townie perspective. He could be town? Yes, but I'm fairly certain he isn't.
I have you as town for filter length and activity, you seem to care about the game which is the towniest trait one can have right now.
I have chromatically as town, still. I find hard to believe any scum would put so much effort into writing a scum case on you and me, reading filters and shit.
I think Rayn can be mafia but his rage quit is giving me pause. Nonetheless, his flip on me + slam's read on him all points out to him being mafia. I don't trust his rage on slam very much because, well, he knows how slam plays and slam was actually being productive - but productive against Rayn.
I am very suspicious of Onegu. I will always think he is a good lynch.
Hopeless has some townie posts but some of them are too similar to Avogadro's mini mafia.
I think gumshoe might be town just because he is defending me. I can't see mafia motivation behind defending me.
Now that yamato is extremely unproductive I can see him being scum. As I said, yamato is one of the players that we can have better reads on later days. And here we are.
I don't know what to do with BH. Some of his posts seems very townie, others seems like fluff. I particularly dislike his "eternal dining" posts. On the other hand, I think the has being thinking about the game critically, so he is probably town.
I don't know if I forgot someone.
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Oh yes, ritoky.
Well I can't read ritoky tbh. Tone reading, he seems townie.
But he lacks some insightful posts that I usually expects him to do as town.
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On October 26 2015 08:23 gumshoe wrote:Show nested quote +On October 26 2015 08:15 GlowingBear wrote:On October 26 2015 08:03 Xatalos wrote:On October 26 2015 08:00 GlowingBear wrote:On October 26 2015 07:55 Xatalos wrote:
I'd basically like to shoot these people right now if I had a gun....
- GB: completely static scumread on Vivax that's not affected by anything happening in the thread, and I actually noticed that marv disproved his reasoning during D1 (by showing that Vivax had made overly confident reads before) but that didn't affect anything... it just does indeed feel like he picked someone to scumread and continued calling him scum no matter what... + overall low effort and disinterest towards anything happening in the game... some of the nice posts he's made can't really absolve him at this point
- yamato: playing according to his scum meta (inactive, disinterested) - there's one town game where he was inactive as well, but mostly he's been relatively active and a good asset as town, there's nothing like that to be seen here....
- Onegu: gave a high townread for rayn, voted for him over his nullread at deadline when the lynch was still completely undecided.... just this alone I think is impossible for town, he did make an "RNG sheep" vote in a previous game but I just can't accept he would choose to vote for his (supposed) highest townread based on some meta-joke... it just shows that he has zero interest towards solving the game or doing anything... and he has refused to answer several questions from different players that probed into his nonsensical arguments over the game
- rayn: disinterested towards the lynch result of D1 (basically sheeping/OMGUSing away to whatever he could), then just started spamming/lurking and caring even less about scumhunting than before
So yeah, I'm basically content if any of these players ends up getting lynched right now.... It looks like we still have 3 mislynches even, so I doubt we can lose if we start by cleaning up this pile of scummy. marv never disproved anything, marv disagreed with me, which is different. And my read on Vivax progressed as he came back to the thread. It's all in my filter. And no, I'm not mafia. Have you ever considered him to be town after the first minute...? I guess you did offer alternative lynches at times, like rayn. I'd really like to hear your overall reads right now. Yes, I've tried to read him coming from a townie perspective. He could be town? Yes, but I'm fairly certain he isn't. I have you as town for filter length and activity, you seem to care about the game which is the towniest trait one can have right now. I have chromatically as town, still. I find hard to believe any scum would put so much effort into writing a scum case on you and me, reading filters and shit. I think Rayn can be mafia but his rage quit is giving me pause. Nonetheless, his flip on me + slam's read on him all points out to him being mafia. I don't trust his rage on slam very much because, well, he knows how slam plays and slam was actually being productive - but productive against Rayn. I am very suspicious of Onegu. I will always think he is a good lynch. Hopeless has some townie posts but some of them are too similar to Avogadro's mini mafia. I think gumshoe might be town just because he is defending me. I can't see mafia motivation behind defending me. Now that yamato is extremely unproductive I can see him being scum. As I said, yamato is one of the players that we can have better reads on later days. And here we are. I don't know what to do with BH. Some of his posts seems very townie, others seems like fluff. I particularly dislike his "eternal dining" posts. On the other hand, I think the has being thinking about the game critically, so he is probably town. I don't know if I forgot someone. Remember how Yamato attacked you for bullshiting against Vivax? Then casually switched over to accusing Vivax once the chance of your lynch evaporated? Theory- wouldn't that make sense, if you were wrong about Vivax and Yamato knew this cause he was scum?(hence why he was so certain you were making shit up as you went along, from his perspective as scum it would look exactly like that to him no matter you were saying about Vivax, cause the bottom line would be that your wrong)he then was fine with switching onto Vivax because wait for it! Hes scum -_- Proposal- Lets lynch Yamato, then we can come back to Vivax, if Yamato is scum, then wouldn't that tell you a bit about Vivax?
I wouldn't do that kind of association because they could be bussing. Yamato never really voted Vivax and Vivax forgot about him to focus on me. It wouldn't really tell me much.
Let's see how the day will unfold.
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I'd lynch onegu first anyway.
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I'm voting yamato atm but I prefer an onegu lynch better
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On October 26 2015 10:02 Xatalos wrote:
Could you perhaps elaborate why Onegu is better?
Not that I disagree with lynching him.
Maybe I'll get to sleep soon...
Basically I can never read onegu, and I can read yamato better the later we get in the game.
We will never know Onegu's alignment until endgame. Because that's how he is. And I prefer to have him lynch as soon as possible.
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On October 26 2015 12:20 yamato77 wrote:
yeah this obviously didn't happen today
at the very least I'll do a couple filters after work tomorrow but I'm honestly so disinterested in this game
I dunno, it's my fault really, but this wasn't as enjoyable as the last time I played for whatever reason
I think I lost it
It's weird. I can relate to.
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On October 26 2015 10:39 gumshoe wrote:Show nested quote +On October 26 2015 10:21 GlowingBear wrote:On October 26 2015 10:02 Xatalos wrote:
Could you perhaps elaborate why Onegu is better?
Not that I disagree with lynching him.
Maybe I'll get to sleep soon... Basically I can never read onegu, and I can read yamato better the later we get in the game. We will never know Onegu's alignment until endgame. Because that's how he is. And I prefer to have him lynch as soon as possible. If you can read Yam at all you should know how shit his day 1 was. In fact you of all fucking people should know that XD His contributions consisted of getting Marv to go after you, almost resulting in your lynch. Not wanting to lynch Onegue for no reason, vaugley going after Slam early and then parroting Marvs slam case back at him to explain his miday vote. I can understand chrom not wanting to see Yam as scum, cause then he has to give up his case on you -_- but how can YOU still defend Yam? Its unbelievable XD To summarize, from your perspective all Yam has been doing is advocating mislynches, providing shady undexplained reads, lurking and fucking town reading/protecting the likes of hopeless and onegue... Show nested quote +I don't really want to lynch Onegu but I admittedly haven't read his probably short filter either. WHY ARE WE NOT KILLING THIS MAN. If he actually is town by some miraculous stretch, lurkers should be coming out of retirement just to throw shade his way. Instead the only person trying to bring down the man with what must be the most fantastic ratio of lurk to malevolent post this game is me XD That right there should be enough to tell the tale -_- cman gb, get in mah pen ![[image loading]](http://s0.geograph.org.uk/geophotos/02/50/90/2509024_4383a58c.jpg)
I'm not defending yamato, I'm voting him.
Let me ask you a question: if yamato flips green, does it change your read on me?
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On October 26 2015 12:33 gumshoe wrote:Show nested quote +On October 26 2015 12:29 GlowingBear wrote:On October 26 2015 12:20 yamato77 wrote:
yeah this obviously didn't happen today
at the very least I'll do a couple filters after work tomorrow but I'm honestly so disinterested in this game
I dunno, it's my fault really, but this wasn't as enjoyable as the last time I played for whatever reason
I think I lost it It's weird. I can relate to. He tried to nuke you 0_0 hes not your friend. Stop relating to him.
Hahaha well he is still a player and the feelin is still relatable
I feel burned out :/
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On October 27 2015 00:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:
i might just want to lynch all the people who think easy questions are hard...
Rayn, IF you're town, please go back to be AFK until you decide not to be a prick.
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On October 27 2015 00:48 Chromatically wrote:rayn please just vote GB for me  or at least Onegu
I am not mafia
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On October 27 2015 00:55 raynpelikoneet wrote:
You literally had fucking 20 hours to re-evaluate, you called me town ALL THAT IME, then you suddenly think i am a better lynch than Slam who you had no read on.
Go GB, GO!
Basically I read what people said and it made sense. Because my townread was basically on how your posts were sounding like you were trying to solve the game, but your flip on me was scummy.
Basically, you say it's highly unlikely I'm scum, then for something I've proved NAI said by vivax you say I'm scum following the thread sentiment over the same filter you said I was level headed.
Then you said I defended myself like I always defended myself as mafia but YOU KNOW I use those arguments regardless of alignment
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@Vivax
On October 26 2015 08:15 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On October 26 2015 08:03 Xatalos wrote:On October 26 2015 08:00 GlowingBear wrote:On October 26 2015 07:55 Xatalos wrote:
I'd basically like to shoot these people right now if I had a gun....
- GB: completely static scumread on Vivax that's not affected by anything happening in the thread, and I actually noticed that marv disproved his reasoning during D1 (by showing that Vivax had made overly confident reads before) but that didn't affect anything... it just does indeed feel like he picked someone to scumread and continued calling him scum no matter what... + overall low effort and disinterest towards anything happening in the game... some of the nice posts he's made can't really absolve him at this point
- yamato: playing according to his scum meta (inactive, disinterested) - there's one town game where he was inactive as well, but mostly he's been relatively active and a good asset as town, there's nothing like that to be seen here....
- Onegu: gave a high townread for rayn, voted for him over his nullread at deadline when the lynch was still completely undecided.... just this alone I think is impossible for town, he did make an "RNG sheep" vote in a previous game but I just can't accept he would choose to vote for his (supposed) highest townread based on some meta-joke... it just shows that he has zero interest towards solving the game or doing anything... and he has refused to answer several questions from different players that probed into his nonsensical arguments over the game
- rayn: disinterested towards the lynch result of D1 (basically sheeping/OMGUSing away to whatever he could), then just started spamming/lurking and caring even less about scumhunting than before
So yeah, I'm basically content if any of these players ends up getting lynched right now.... It looks like we still have 3 mislynches even, so I doubt we can lose if we start by cleaning up this pile of scummy. marv never disproved anything, marv disagreed with me, which is different. And my read on Vivax progressed as he came back to the thread. It's all in my filter. And no, I'm not mafia. Have you ever considered him to be town after the first minute...? I guess you did offer alternative lynches at times, like rayn. I'd really like to hear your overall reads right now. Yes, I've tried to read him coming from a townie perspective. He could be town? Yes, but I'm fairly certain he isn't. I have you as town for filter length and activity, you seem to care about the game which is the towniest trait one can have right now. I have chromatically as town, still. I find hard to believe any scum would put so much effort into writing a scum case on you and me, reading filters and shit. I think Rayn can be mafia but his rage quit is giving me pause. Nonetheless, his flip on me + slam's read on him all points out to him being mafia. I don't trust his rage on slam very much because, well, he knows how slam plays and slam was actually being productive - but productive against Rayn. I am very suspicious of Onegu. I will always think he is a good lynch. Hopeless has some townie posts but some of them are too similar to Avogadro's mini mafia. I think gumshoe might be town just because he is defending me. I can't see mafia motivation behind defending me. Now that yamato is extremely unproductive I can see him being scum. As I said, yamato is one of the players that we can have better reads on later days. And here we are. I don't know what to do with BH. Some of his posts seems very townie, others seems like fluff. I particularly dislike his "eternal dining" posts. On the other hand, I think the has being thinking about the game critically, so he is probably town. I don't know if I forgot someone.
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Im really trying not to be bad manner
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On October 27 2015 01:12 gumshoe wrote:I am honestly so sickened with you right now Rayn. Actual point: Slam was playing seriously, yet you were certain he was scum and concluded that hes a huge troll for not being scum... How can you be certain Xata is not just a huge troll as well? Where does your deliusional confidence stem from Rayn? Can I have a hit? Why should we ever trust you if you dont actually give a fuck? Oh wait you dont give a fuck, so yeah, guess we should just not bother trusting or listening you. Tip 1(dont read this unless you want to be offended + Show Spoiler +)Do everyone a favor and leave the thread. Other people want you to contribute, but I dont. I want you to go, because everything your going to say for the rest of the game is going to be poison and the only way I see scum winning is if they can somehow harvest your terrible reads as a reusable power source to fuel thier scum ray. Tip2 (dont read unless you want to be even more offended): + Show Spoiler + Why not get drunk again? I would honestly rather you get modkilled at this point, that way we dont have to listen to your trash and risking spending a lynch on you.
This. So much this.
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On October 27 2015 01:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:ofc you are.
You're trying to prove a point. The point is that the slam playstyle is annoying and useless.
But the point you proved is that slam is fun to play with and you're not, regardless if you're trolling or actually playing. Because nowadays when you're actually playing you're beig bad and when you're trolling you can't get a laugh out of anything you post.
You just proved to be a cry baby. Grow up.
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