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On October 23 2015 00:50 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2015 00:48 GlowingBear wrote:
His first post was a vote on yamato?
And yes, he CAN do it as town, but his whole filter has posts in similar fashion. And I usually see Vivax being paranoid. Not this straight forward.
This doesn't make sense. He calls yamato mafia and so he's not paranoid? What are you saying? Like I get what you're saying about the townlist, but you need to explain it much much better about calling people mafia.
I may be wrong here marv, but what I'm trying to say is not that he is calling people mafia, but that his posts are very straight forward here (that's what I trying to saying with "absolutes" = he calls a player mafia, he calls a player town - I don't see him having a slow progression on most people. And I'm used to Vivax being way more wary before giving reads).
It's basically tonal.
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On October 23 2015 00:56 marvellosity wrote:
like it just seems so very lazy to me to characterise Vivax's townplay as "paranoid" and then call him mafia because his posts don't fit into this very shallow metric.
I like my vote better now than when I made it when it was more of a random punt
Alright
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On October 23 2015 00:57 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2015 00:50 marvellosity wrote:On October 23 2015 00:48 GlowingBear wrote:
His first post was a vote on yamato?
And yes, he CAN do it as town, but his whole filter has posts in similar fashion. And I usually see Vivax being paranoid. Not this straight forward.
This doesn't make sense. He calls yamato mafia and so he's not paranoid? What are you saying? Like I get what you're saying about the townlist, but you need to explain it much much better about calling people mafia. I may be wrong here marv, but what I'm trying to say is not that he is calling people mafia, but that his posts are very straight forward here (that's what I trying to saying with "absolutes" = he calls a player mafia, he calls a player town - I don't see him having a slow progression on most people. And I'm used to Vivax being way more wary before giving reads). It's basically tonal.
This is the same Vivax who tunnelled me and HF and one other based on a connection theory for abour 36h starting from half an hour into day 1, yes? That Vivax who is wary of giving reads?
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at least you managed to explain better what you meant by absolutes and stuff which just looked like total bs for me.
Might actually unvote you for now even though I just said I was happy with my vote
I'm capricious like that
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On October 22 2015 13:23 yamato77 wrote:
I don't think Vivax is mafia.
I think Xatalos has some questionable parts of his filter and I agree with gumshoe to an extent.
I do not think gumshoe is mafia very often (given his play this game).
I think marv has changed how he plays (quite obviously). Don't know what to make of that quite yet.
I think rayn is leaning town but it's hard to say with not much having happened.
Most others are a big ?, including yourself.
tl;dr it's been 20 pages and 8 hours and no reads are confident.
I'm kinda bothered by the fact yammo feels like giving reads on people he doesn't actually have a read on instead of focusing on the stuff he finds interesting. Reads a bit like an appeasement post.
Last town yammo I saw (the one where he lynched me at lylo over scum Damdred) he was actually active on D1 and even surprisingly dickish about things, the capslock type dickish, and there's plenty of stuff to laugh about in this game and he doesn't feel like having fun, still.
I'm not really convinced by this. I can totally picture somebody in the scum qt urging him to post, the little tinfoil on my shoulder wants it to be rayn.
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On October 23 2015 01:00 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2015 00:57 GlowingBear wrote:On October 23 2015 00:50 marvellosity wrote:On October 23 2015 00:48 GlowingBear wrote:
His first post was a vote on yamato?
And yes, he CAN do it as town, but his whole filter has posts in similar fashion. And I usually see Vivax being paranoid. Not this straight forward.
This doesn't make sense. He calls yamato mafia and so he's not paranoid? What are you saying? Like I get what you're saying about the townlist, but you need to explain it much much better about calling people mafia. I may be wrong here marv, but what I'm trying to say is not that he is calling people mafia, but that his posts are very straight forward here (that's what I trying to saying with "absolutes" = he calls a player mafia, he calls a player town - I don't see him having a slow progression on most people. And I'm used to Vivax being way more wary before giving reads). It's basically tonal. This is the same Vivax who tunnelled me and HF and one other based on a connection theory for abour 36h starting from half an hour into day 1, yes? That Vivax who is wary of giving reads?
lol
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On October 23 2015 01:02 Vivax wrote:
I'm not really convinced by this. I can totally picture somebody in the scum qt urging him to post, the little tinfoil on my shoulder wants it to be rayn.
silliest paragraph posted so far
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On October 23 2015 01:00 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2015 00:57 GlowingBear wrote:On October 23 2015 00:50 marvellosity wrote:On October 23 2015 00:48 GlowingBear wrote:
His first post was a vote on yamato?
And yes, he CAN do it as town, but his whole filter has posts in similar fashion. And I usually see Vivax being paranoid. Not this straight forward.
This doesn't make sense. He calls yamato mafia and so he's not paranoid? What are you saying? Like I get what you're saying about the townlist, but you need to explain it much much better about calling people mafia. I may be wrong here marv, but what I'm trying to say is not that he is calling people mafia, but that his posts are very straight forward here (that's what I trying to saying with "absolutes" = he calls a player mafia, he calls a player town - I don't see him having a slow progression on most people. And I'm used to Vivax being way more wary before giving reads). It's basically tonal. This is the same Vivax who tunnelled me and HF and one other based on a connection theory for abour 36h starting from half an hour into day 1, yes? That Vivax who is wary of giving reads?
EXACTLY!
I think I'm having a hard time even to understand what I want to say LOL.
I mean he had a couple of theories to tunnel both of you. He WASN'T straight forward. His town reads were never strong because of the tin foil.
But here, less than half a day, he already has like 4 townreads, and two of them I don't even understand why.
By the way, Vivax, what are the reasons to townread BH and Xata?
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On October 23 2015 01:06 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2015 01:00 marvellosity wrote:On October 23 2015 00:57 GlowingBear wrote:On October 23 2015 00:50 marvellosity wrote:On October 23 2015 00:48 GlowingBear wrote:
His first post was a vote on yamato?
And yes, he CAN do it as town, but his whole filter has posts in similar fashion. And I usually see Vivax being paranoid. Not this straight forward.
This doesn't make sense. He calls yamato mafia and so he's not paranoid? What are you saying? Like I get what you're saying about the townlist, but you need to explain it much much better about calling people mafia. I may be wrong here marv, but what I'm trying to say is not that he is calling people mafia, but that his posts are very straight forward here (that's what I trying to saying with "absolutes" = he calls a player mafia, he calls a player town - I don't see him having a slow progression on most people. And I'm used to Vivax being way more wary before giving reads). It's basically tonal. This is the same Vivax who tunnelled me and HF and one other based on a connection theory for abour 36h starting from half an hour into day 1, yes? That Vivax who is wary of giving reads? EXACTLY! I think I'm having a hard time even to understand what I want to say LOL. I mean he had a couple of theories to tunnel both of you. He WASN'T straight forward. His town reads were never strong because of the tin foil. But here, less than half a day, he already has like 4 townreads, and two of them I don't even understand why. By the way, Vivax, what are the reasons to townread BH and Xata?
alright. I'll concede you aren't bsing, even though I don't agree with you at all. good day sir.
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[QUOTE]On October 23 2015 01:02 Vivax wrote:
[QUOTE]On October 22 2015 13:23 yamato77 wrote:
I don't think Vivax is mafia.
I think Xatalos has some questionable parts of his filter and I agree with gumshoe to an extent.
I do not think gumshoe is mafia very often (given his play this game).
I think marv has changed how he plays (quite obviously). Don't know what to make of that quite yet.
I think rayn is leaning town but it's hard to say with not much having happened.
Most others are a big ?, including yourself.
tl;dr it's been 20 pages and 8 hours and no reads are confident.[/QUOTE]
I'm kinda bothered by the fact yammo feels like giving reads on people he doesn't actually have a read on instead of focusing on the stuff he finds interesting. Reads a bit like an appeasement post.
Last town yammo I saw (the one where he lynched me at lylo over scum Damdred) he was actually active on D1 and even surprisingly dickish about things, the capslock type dickish, and there's plenty of stuff to laugh about in this game and he doesn't feel like having fun, still.
I'm not really convinced by this. I can totally picture somebody in the scum qt urging him to post, the little tinfoil on my shoulder wants it to be rayn.[/QUOTE
Vivax you KNOW that if yamato is town he will eventually come to the thread and try. It has been like that for a long time. It's the kind of player that you get better read on him as the game goes by.
Instead you decided to push him at the start of day 1 and is actually scum reading him for being AFK for less than 24 hours.
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On October 23 2015 01:02 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2015 13:23 yamato77 wrote:
I don't think Vivax is mafia.
I think Xatalos has some questionable parts of his filter and I agree with gumshoe to an extent.
I do not think gumshoe is mafia very often (given his play this game).
I think marv has changed how he plays (quite obviously). Don't know what to make of that quite yet.
I think rayn is leaning town but it's hard to say with not much having happened.
Most others are a big ?, including yourself.
tl;dr it's been 20 pages and 8 hours and no reads are confident. I'm kinda bothered by the fact yammo feels like giving reads on people he doesn't actually have a read on instead of focusing on the stuff he finds interesting. Reads a bit like an appeasement post. Last town yammo I saw (the one where he lynched me at lylo over scum Damdred) he was actually active on D1 and even surprisingly dickish about things, the capslock type dickish, and there's plenty of stuff to laugh about in this game and he doesn't feel like having fun, still. I'm not really convinced by this. I can totally picture somebody in the scum qt urging him to post, the little tinfoil on my shoulder wants it to be rayn.
Vivax you KNOW that if yamato is town he will eventually come to the thread and try. It has been like that for a long time. It's the kind of player that you get better read on him as the game goes by.
Instead you decided to push him at the start of day 1 and is actually scum reading him for being AFK for less than 24 hours.
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On October 23 2015 01:12 GlowingBear wrote:EBWOP Show nested quote +On October 23 2015 01:02 Vivax wrote:On October 22 2015 13:23 yamato77 wrote:
I don't think Vivax is mafia.
I think Xatalos has some questionable parts of his filter and I agree with gumshoe to an extent.
I do not think gumshoe is mafia very often (given his play this game).
I think marv has changed how he plays (quite obviously). Don't know what to make of that quite yet.
I think rayn is leaning town but it's hard to say with not much having happened.
Most others are a big ?, including yourself.
tl;dr it's been 20 pages and 8 hours and no reads are confident. I'm kinda bothered by the fact yammo feels like giving reads on people he doesn't actually have a read on instead of focusing on the stuff he finds interesting. Reads a bit like an appeasement post. Last town yammo I saw (the one where he lynched me at lylo over scum Damdred) he was actually active on D1 and even surprisingly dickish about things, the capslock type dickish, and there's plenty of stuff to laugh about in this game and he doesn't feel like having fun, still. I'm not really convinced by this. I can totally picture somebody in the scum qt urging him to post, the little tinfoil on my shoulder wants it to be rayn. Vivax you KNOW that if yamato is town he will eventually come to the thread and try. It has been like that for a long time. It's the kind of player that you get better read on him as the game goes by. Instead you decided to push him at the start of day 1 and is actually scum reading him for being AFK for less than 24 hours.
Yes cause he didn't interact much with everyone else and only talked about him not wanting to engage with me and Xata, plus he entered the thread with that shitty complaining tone, the sort of tone Palmar caught you with, the jist being "complaining and not doing anything about it".
Then his half assed reads post.
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GB you are attacking someone who is doing stuff for attacking somebody who isn't doing stuff and you aren't exactly a guy who doesn't know me.
A mafia yamato is an easy catch and on D1 I'm not going to try and go for the hard catch. Pull the head out of your ass or keep being ridiculous but then don't complain if I disregard anything you say.
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On October 23 2015 01:30 Vivax wrote:
GB you are attacking someone who is doing stuff for attacking somebody who isn't doing stuff and you aren't exactly a guy who doesn't know me.
A mafia yamato is an easy catch and on D1 I'm not going to try and go for the hard catch. Pull the head out of your ass or keep being ridiculous but then don't complain if I disregard anything you say.
This kind of threat doesn't work with me Vivax.
Fair enough regarding yamato. But why do you read Xatalos and BH as town?
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Yamato isn't an easy catch day1 by the way, Viv. He is actually very hard to catch because a lot of times he is town he also AFK's and die because of that.
Like the last time he smurfed and got lynched. I think it's Himalayas?
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On October 22 2015 22:08 Chromatically wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2015 15:25 Alakaslam wrote:On October 22 2015 14:22 ritoky wrote:On October 22 2015 13:27 Chromatically wrote:
and he used the same picture here so I think that's pretty much a slam dunk case. played 1 game with you, you spent all game calling me mafia for posting nonsense, i spent all game calling you mafia. you were mafia, i was town. so i think that's pretty much a slam dunk case. I was lampshadinf this idea. There is no case in the post chroma made. Also Rayn, you throwing your vote away is suspicious. You know I am unlynchable until Lylo, why are you parking your vote on LHF? What do you mean with this post?
I mean your slam dunk doesn't dunk me or prove anything about ritoky's alignment
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GB hard defense of Yamato making me wonder.
Blaaaaagh tinfoil and iodine pills
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On October 23 2015 02:01 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2015 22:08 Chromatically wrote:On October 22 2015 15:25 Alakaslam wrote:On October 22 2015 14:22 ritoky wrote:On October 22 2015 13:27 Chromatically wrote:
and he used the same picture here so I think that's pretty much a slam dunk case. played 1 game with you, you spent all game calling me mafia for posting nonsense, i spent all game calling you mafia. you were mafia, i was town. so i think that's pretty much a slam dunk case. I was lampshadinf this idea. There is no case in the post chroma made. Also Rayn, you throwing your vote away is suspicious. You know I am unlynchable until Lylo, why are you parking your vote on LHF? What do you mean with this post? I mean your slam dunk doesn't dunk me or prove anything about ritoky's alignment
I don't see how it would dunk you in any way..? Are you talking about the post with the picture where I said "slam dunk" or the long post I made?
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On October 23 2015 00:13 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2015 00:10 Chromatically wrote:On October 22 2015 22:51 marvellosity wrote:On October 22 2015 22:24 Chromatically wrote:
marv, any opinions on ritoky/my post on ritoky? not really. i mean you could be right and it's mafia picking up on those things. But i also don't see why a townie might not either. I can't really tell why one scenario should be particularly more likely than the other. So... *shrug* ritoky's pretty null for me basically Alright, I can see how it could come from town. I would say it's more likely from mafia because it's a very easy thing to point out about a very easy person to jump on, whereas town would explain why they thought gumshoe's thought process was scummy instead of just giving a laundry list of "tells" like this: On October 22 2015 06:41 ritoky wrote:On October 22 2015 06:39 Xatalos wrote:On October 22 2015 06:36 ritoky wrote:
gumshoe might be mafia. Why? poorly explained response, forced joke, clear post editing, extra lines at the end of post. I'm not as confident in it now as I was, but I think it's still reasonable especially in combination with the fact that the rest of his posts are pure filler with no actual reads/town content. on the other hand, i could tell you mafia are more likely to make hay and actually explain those things (which are quite easy to do) so that they have a nice looking post. I'd say mafia are more prone to overexplanation, no? :>
As a general rule... yes? I think it's more about how the explanation happens than whether it's too long (ovexplanation) or too short. In general, people make posts and then add explanations to them based on what makes sense to them logically. Because mafia are faking reads, when they try to add explantions, it has to be based on their guess of how someone would arrive at their conculsion logicailly. They're making it up artifically, and often this presents as overexplanation
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On October 23 2015 02:06 Alakaslam wrote:
GB hard defense of Yamato making me wonder.
Blaaaaagh tinfoil and iodine pills
It's not a hard defense.
It's just me seeing yamato being yamato and Vivax not being Vivax.
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