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Chromatically
Profile Joined January 2012
United States1700 Posts
October 28 2015 05:13 GMT
#2801
But Onegu is actually scummy for like in game reasons. He's only town because of the people that died, and I don't think that offsets it.

And like... I'm considering alternatives, but none of them are convincing at all. Maybe I'll find something when I look at Vivax more.
gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
October 28 2015 05:18 GMT
#2802
On October 28 2015 14:10 ritoky wrote:
also "could never be gb and vivax". no. let me tell you a story of a game of mafia where gb, damdred, and i rolled mafia. gb makes the first post "OMG I LOVE U GUYS, LET'S ALL BUS THE LIVING SHIT OUT OF EACHOTHER! GOIN FOR DAMDRED!" to which me and damdred also agree and bus the living fuck out of eachother and roflstomp the game. that was a fun game. it's not exactly probable but it is possible.

why did i stick around?

basically in order for onegu to be mafia every person who died has to have been wrong on him and onegu is killing every1 who TRs him. i don't think this is the case, which means onegu is town. so that list of 3 isn't good anymore.

i think GB is mafia, i think hopeless is a coinflip. so it is time to start considering alternatives.


Lol this guy

"so this is super unlikely but it IS possible but it supports mah theory so lets consider it really hard"

" this thing is super unlikely too, but lets not consider it much possible because it doesnt support mah theory."

Marv is super townie kill number 1, his death means nothing to your theory, as even if hes town reading onegu he might be scum reading onegus buds.

If onegu is scum, he literally gave his reason for killing rayn right here.

Rayn scum reads Xata, and hopeless and then dies. Coincidence I think not.

Anyway I am going to bed.

We should lynch xata or hopeless today.


--insert angry insult that I will reframe from cause I dont actually dislike you and I'm not as bad as Rayn----
gumshoe bullshitting at 120%~~Prplz
gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
October 28 2015 05:21 GMT
#2803
On October 28 2015 14:13 ritoky wrote:
also take your salt somewhere else please. this game has been hard enough to make it through; can it just be pleasant the rest of the way?


its hard because townies like you are making it hard. it doesnt have to be hard. Your the one choosing to come after people who are clearly town because your really scared of some mafia master plan. You dont wanna be had, I get that, but your paranoia really isn't helping.

list=profit

you wanna lynch gb? fine. But leave mah xata alone.
gumshoe bullshitting at 120%~~Prplz
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
October 28 2015 05:22 GMT
#2804
On October 28 2015 07:38 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2015 07:34 gumshoe wrote:
"you know we should kill bh, but fuck it, I really dont wanna to play another day with Rayn"

Is the only explanation that makes sense to me...

I cant believe rayns bitchy play came full circle and actually HELPED town. He was was such a bother for both factions that he wound up functioning as an honorary BG for Bh...wow, just wow.


Like, in a way, I'm really happy rayn is dead, even if it means one more townie is gone. it means we don't have to listen to him any more. He somehow took a bullet! Thanks, rayn. Thanks for being dead. Even better, he can't respond here when I say: rayn, it's so good that you're dead. so good.

hue

Technically, we still can

But it is virtually impossible he will reply since it's not too bad and is easily forgettable. And he doesn't literally want to be permanently banned like I do.

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Chromatically
Profile Joined January 2012
United States1700 Posts
October 28 2015 05:25 GMT
#2805
Just checked, gumshoe is definitely town because I think he posts differently as mafia than he does here and as town. It seems like his tone is much more serious as mafia, and definitely not as interested in finding mafia. Plus his mafia games have 2, 2, 2, and 4 page filters total (idk how convincing filter length argument is but it's easy and feels good). I guess it could just be a coincidence that lurker gumshoe showed up for his mafia games, but I don't think that gumshoe would be able to play like this as mafia.

Town game (real similar to here):
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/444078-cultured-mini-mafia?user=gumshoe
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/446774-world-heavyweight-championship-mafia-ii?user=gumshoe

Mafia:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/448443-you-only-shoot-once-mafia?user=gumshoe
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/445571-doctor-who-mafia-2?user=gumshoe
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/445063-handslaps-and-fisticuff-a-pyp-mini?user=gumshoe
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/441596-gsl-open-mini-mafia-iv?user=gumshoe
Chromatically
Profile Joined January 2012
United States1700 Posts
October 28 2015 05:27 GMT
#2806
I tried to look at Xatalos' filter for you ritoky but it was almost as long as all of D2 so I decided I didn't have time for that right now...
Chromatically
Profile Joined January 2012
United States1700 Posts
October 28 2015 05:30 GMT
#2807
##Vote: GlowingBear

For everything that me, ritoky, and rayn have already said, in addition to being around all night and not doing anything that looks remotely townie at all.

For the record, I do support an Onegu lynch at this point (maybe this will change if I find someone else that I think could be mafia). I just think that GB is a better chance to hit. Realistically, I can't see myself lynching outside of GB/Onegu/Hopeless until all three are dead right now.
Chromatically
Profile Joined January 2012
United States1700 Posts
October 28 2015 05:31 GMT
#2808
Interestingly, it looks like Hopeless might be the deciding vote on the GB/Onegu wagons...
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
October 28 2015 05:54 GMT
#2809
On October 28 2015 14:10 ritoky wrote:
also "could never be gb and vivax". no. let me tell you a story of a game of mafia where gb, damdred, and i rolled mafia. gb makes the first post "OMG I LOVE U GUYS, LET'S ALL BUS THE LIVING SHIT OUT OF EACHOTHER! GOIN FOR DAMDRED!" to which me and damdred also agree and bus the living fuck out of eachother and roflstomp the game. that was a fun game. it's not exactly probable but it is possible.

why did i stick around?

basically in order for onegu to be mafia every person who died has to have been wrong on him and onegu is killing every1 who TRs him. i don't think this is the case, which means onegu is town. so that list of 3 isn't good anymore.

i think GB is mafia, i think hopeless is a coinflip. so it is time to start considering alternatives.


Hahaha awesome game

A game where I had all the emotions chrom is accusing me of lacking in here.

Hence all meta cases on me were wrong
I'm adorable.
gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
October 28 2015 05:55 GMT
#2810
##unvote

##vote Gb


sorry gb ) : I dont have a good way to clear you anymore, it's on you,
gumshoe bullshitting at 120%~~Prplz
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
October 28 2015 06:01 GMT
#2811
On October 28 2015 14:55 gumshoe wrote:
##unvote

##vote Gb


sorry gb ) : I dont have a good way to clear you anymore, it's on you,


Lol gumshoe do you have any reasons to read me as mafia?
I'm adorable.
gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
October 28 2015 06:08 GMT
#2812
On October 28 2015 15:01 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2015 14:55 gumshoe wrote:
##unvote

##vote Gb


sorry gb ) : I dont have a good way to clear you anymore, it's on you,


Lol gumshoe do you have any reasons to read me as mafia?


not particularly T_T
gumshoe bullshitting at 120%~~Prplz
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
October 28 2015 06:08 GMT
#2813
On October 28 2015 14:07 Chromatically wrote:
Ehhhh I really don't agree with that. gumshoe and Xatalos were both of the mindset that yamato scum = GB town, which was pretty reasonable. So they'd want to see the yamato flip before killing GB. Even I thought it would be a mistake to double lynch without considering info from the flip.


This is bullshit. If you think I'm mafia like you show you think I am you vote me 100%.

Tell me how yamato flipping mafia would clear me. And I want YOU to tell me, not anyone else.
I'm adorable.
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
October 28 2015 06:09 GMT
#2814
On October 28 2015 15:08 gumshoe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2015 15:01 GlowingBear wrote:
On October 28 2015 14:55 gumshoe wrote:
##unvote

##vote Gb


sorry gb ) : I dont have a good way to clear you anymore, it's on you,


Lol gumshoe do you have any reasons to read me as mafia?


not particularly T_T


So you're voting me because...?
I'm adorable.
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
October 28 2015 06:11 GMT
#2815
Anyway it's also bullshit that you say RAYN died because mafia think he was unlynchable. He had way more chances to be lynched over than you or Xatalos.

The fact that you thought I was town should be clear to you that RAYN was wrong so if he is dead it's because mafia tried to wifom us
I'm adorable.
gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
October 28 2015 06:12 GMT
#2816
Basically theres no lynch I can propose that can clear your name like yams would, and theres no argument (that I havent already brought up) that would sway the people who want your head. I know it sucks to be the patzi but at this point your a liability to town ) :

If you can sway them to lynch onegu or hopeless or convince them why your town, by all means do that, but at this point I cant do that for you and I'm not going to be arguing with chrom and ritoky for the next 3 days when it is still possible that you could be mafia and im just blind.
gumshoe bullshitting at 120%~~Prplz
gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
October 28 2015 06:19 GMT
#2817
On October 28 2015 15:11 GlowingBear wrote:
Anyway it's also bullshit that you say RAYN died because mafia think he was unlynchable. He had way more chances to be lynched over than you or Xatalos.

The fact that you thought I was town should be clear to you that RAYN was wrong so if he is dead it's because mafia tried to wifom us


EXACTLY, the only way rayn is unlychable is if scum are in a position where they cannot help rayn be lynched.

Bh brought up that it could also be that scum are the only ones pushing rayn.

But that would mean 2 out of you vivax xat and ritoky are scum. You should KNOW your town, so it cant be you, that means 2 out of xat vivax and ritoky are scum which I dont bilieve.

on the other hand we have the case that scum simply are town reading rayn, therefore they are trying to just wifom us cause they can never kill him.

This would support the theory that Hopeless and onegu are scum (two scummy players that are in no position to push rayn as they are town reading him, they fit the bill perfectly.)

The problem is, it only accounts for two of scum, the third can be whatever on Rayn / : so yeah, mah theory doesnt clear or condemn any one player, it just makes a compelling case that there are 2 scum out there that CANNOT mislynch rayn cause theyre stuck town reading him.

gumshoe bullshitting at 120%~~Prplz
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
October 28 2015 06:24 GMT
#2818
Let me be sincere here:

I'm completely demotivated to play. Partly because I've burned out of playing mafia, partly because I can't stand coming to a promising game, liking playing it, but then facing medium tier players overvaluating themselves and promoting shitfests, and players that signs in to simply not play the game. It's like playing chess with a wall.

I'm not certain on anyone but Vivax. Vivax has displayed some townie posts, I must agree, but his overall gameplay seems scummy to me. He doesn't feel engaged to win. He hasn't done anything memorable.

The rest I can call scummy for whatever reasons. At this point I want to lynch everybody and be the last man standing.

No, I won't make a case on Vivax. I've spent 3-4 hours re reading day one, talked about Vivax, said we should keep slam and yamato to read later, and that we should go against Onegu and hopeless, just to be called mafia right after. It's boring. Then it's day3, and people are considering a team of me/Onegu/hopeless ROFLMAO. I won't waste my time.

I will be hanging here and give some opinions on whatever I find relevant and vote people accordingly to how I feel comfortable.

I'm adorable.
gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
October 28 2015 06:25 GMT
#2819
On October 28 2015 15:24 GlowingBear wrote:
Let me be sincere here:

I'm completely demotivated to play. Partly because I've burned out of playing mafia, partly because I can't stand coming to a promising game, liking playing it, but then facing medium tier players overvaluating themselves and promoting shitfests, and players that signs in to simply not play the game. It's like playing chess with a wall.

I'm not certain on anyone but Vivax. Vivax has displayed some townie posts, I must agree, but his overall gameplay seems scummy to me. He doesn't feel engaged to win. He hasn't done anything memorable.

The rest I can call scummy for whatever reasons. At this point I want to lynch everybody and be the last man standing.

No, I won't make a case on Vivax. I've spent 3-4 hours re reading day one, talked about Vivax, said we should keep slam and yamato to read later, and that we should go against Onegu and hopeless, just to be called mafia right after. It's boring. Then it's day3, and people are considering a team of me/Onegu/hopeless ROFLMAO. I won't waste my time.

I will be hanging here and give some opinions on whatever I find relevant and vote people accordingly to how I feel comfortable.



oks ) :
gumshoe bullshitting at 120%~~Prplz
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
October 28 2015 06:26 GMT
#2820
On October 28 2015 15:12 gumshoe wrote:
Basically theres no lynch I can propose that can clear your name like yams would, and theres no argument (that I havent already brought up) that would sway the people who want your head. I know it sucks to be the patzi but at this point your a liability to town ) :

If you can sway them to lynch onegu or hopeless or convince them why your town, by all means do that, but at this point I cant do that for you and I'm not going to be arguing with chrom and ritoky for the next 3 days when it is still possible that you could be mafia and im just blind.


So how do you read Onegu and Hopeless?
I'm adorable.
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