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Sylencia
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1057 Posts
October 13 2015 14:21 GMT
#241
On October 13 2015 19:41 Xatalos wrote:
Sylencia... is a bit worrying. I don't really like the style of merely offering weak side-commentary to the game so far. That's like one of the classic Mafia signs.


It's also classic me.

On October 13 2015 20:12 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2015 20:09 Xatalos wrote:
##Vote: Sylencia


Oh yeah... This was mostly because I disliked his style of just cautiously/briefly popping into the thread to make some semi-useless comment, then disappear. That and the fact that others who had posted so far had at least something town-leaning going for them.


Taking a nap when the thread was so slow is a crime these days? How is it ever an indicator when you take such a short time frame and claim 'I disappeared' for like 4 hours. If I said crappy things and disappeared for the next 30 hours I'd understand suspicion but come on, it's been like 5 hours since I last checked and like 8 hours since my last post or something because there was only 2 things said beyond my last post -_-
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
October 13 2015 14:25 GMT
#242
Well do you have something to add after those breaks of yours? Did your earlier posts lead somewhere?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Sylencia
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1057 Posts
October 13 2015 14:25 GMT
#243
On October 13 2015 21:31 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2015 21:28 Rels wrote:
On October 13 2015 19:24 Tictock wrote:
Sad news Fellows...

After today I am out of potent smoke-ables.

This could even mean I give meaningful and thought out posts eventually this game.

I don't like that post. TT always "eventually gives meaningful and thought out posts". People sometimes thinks he's scummy because his thoughts are hard to follow, and he's very prompt at making conspiracy theory, even if it involves putting doubt on near-confirmed townies; but he's always re evalutating and thinking about solving the game.

Here TT is saying him making meaningful and thought out posts is rare; which is not true.

This post by town!TT doesn't make sense, as it's not true he doesn't do meaningful posts.
This post by not-town!TT makes sense, as it does a few things:
- gives him an excuse his current "useless" behavious
- promises to do more later
- BIGGER THING: creates the premise that if he does "meaningful" posts, it will be a rare thing for him, and we should townread him for that. But that is just not true; TT as town always does meaningful posts


It's a null read because so many people say things like that regardless of alignment though. I literally would've posted something to that nature if I didn't just read it
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
October 13 2015 14:26 GMT
#244
Or overall what's your take on the recent events / main reads?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
October 13 2015 14:32 GMT
#245
On October 13 2015 23:25 Sylencia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2015 21:31 Rels wrote:
On October 13 2015 21:28 Rels wrote:
On October 13 2015 19:24 Tictock wrote:
Sad news Fellows...

After today I am out of potent smoke-ables.

This could even mean I give meaningful and thought out posts eventually this game.

I don't like that post. TT always "eventually gives meaningful and thought out posts". People sometimes thinks he's scummy because his thoughts are hard to follow, and he's very prompt at making conspiracy theory, even if it involves putting doubt on near-confirmed townies; but he's always re evalutating and thinking about solving the game.

Here TT is saying him making meaningful and thought out posts is rare; which is not true.

This post by town!TT doesn't make sense, as it's not true he doesn't do meaningful posts.
This post by not-town!TT makes sense, as it does a few things:
- gives him an excuse his current "useless" behavious
- promises to do more later
- BIGGER THING: creates the premise that if he does "meaningful" posts, it will be a rare thing for him, and we should townread him for that. But that is just not true; TT as town always does meaningful posts


It's a null read because so many people say things like that regardless of alignment though. I literally would've posted something to that nature if I didn't just read it

What do you mean "things like this".
The problems here are:
- TT doesn't start tryharding like he did in season of the witch (he was town), but slacked off like he did in holy guardians (he was mafia)
- He implies that he doesn't usually make thoughtful posts, which is not true
Sylencia
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1057 Posts
October 13 2015 14:34 GMT
#246
On October 13 2015 22:24 Rels wrote:
OK I know what bothered me about Superbia. This post:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2015 20:21 Superbia wrote:
Also brb.

was made 12 hours after this post:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2015 08:03 Superbia wrote:
Brb.

So two times he quit the thread saying "brb", as he felt the need to warn us he was leaving. It is not-town indicative 'cause it indicates he is concerned about how he looks.

And I say "he was leaving" even if "brb" doesn't indicate per se an exit because that's what he did both times: after the first he posted this and left:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2015 08:52 Superbia wrote:
I actually can't rly play atm. Be back later tomorrow probably. Don't like Moosy's reaction to Koshi.

After the second he posted nothing.


Does it mean anything though if he mentioned he was going to be mostly unavailable today pre-game? It's the primary reason why I haven't trusted the claims on Superbia yet because the primary point has been about the "brbs" and "can't play" comments.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
October 13 2015 14:39 GMT
#247
On October 13 2015 23:34 Sylencia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2015 22:24 Rels wrote:
OK I know what bothered me about Superbia. This post:
On October 13 2015 20:21 Superbia wrote:
Also brb.

was made 12 hours after this post:
On October 13 2015 08:03 Superbia wrote:
Brb.

So two times he quit the thread saying "brb", as he felt the need to warn us he was leaving. It is not-town indicative 'cause it indicates he is concerned about how he looks.

And I say "he was leaving" even if "brb" doesn't indicate per se an exit because that's what he did both times: after the first he posted this and left:
On October 13 2015 08:52 Superbia wrote:
I actually can't rly play atm. Be back later tomorrow probably. Don't like Moosy's reaction to Koshi.

After the second he posted nothing.


Does it mean anything though if he mentioned he was going to be mostly unavailable today pre-game? It's the primary reason why I haven't trusted the claims on Superbia yet because the primary point has been about the "brbs" and "can't play" comments.

It bothered me when I caught up though, but yeah this in particular doesn't mean anything. Him saying "brb" then almost one hour later "actually I can't play see you tomorrow" is bothering me a little though.
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
October 13 2015 14:42 GMT
#248
I kind of like how I'm doing nothing and yet I'm still alive.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
Sylencia
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1057 Posts
October 13 2015 14:49 GMT
#249
On October 13 2015 23:26 Xatalos wrote:
Or overall what's your take on the recent events / main reads?


Reserving judgement based on recent events because I'm still processing it (read: I'm not trying very hard). Main read is CopCake anti-town because their reasoning baffles me (aka there is no reasoning) and I can't understand a train of process that goes:

Suspect A: 1 word brb
Suspect B: Crap haiku

Suspect A gets the vote.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
October 13 2015 16:22 GMT
#250
Rels meta read is pretty biased imo, only looking at one town/scum game and trying to make a meta case.

When do I ever actually tryhard D1? Never understood why you said that last game but you were mafia so w/e.

Anyways I'm mobile atm so diggin up stuff on my own meta will have yo wait.

Rels is focusing on the wrong part of that post anyways, clearly the important statement was that I was out of Pot.

Anyways would like to know what Xat and Koshi find scummy about me, or if they are just sheeping Rels meta case without checking things themselves.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
October 13 2015 16:27 GMT
#251
On October 13 2015 21:38 Rels wrote:
Wow just when I'm done explaining how I don't like a TT's post, I read these:

Show nested quote +
On October 13 2015 19:29 Tictock wrote:
On October 13 2015 19:26 Xatalos wrote:
On October 13 2015 08:19 Koshi wrote:
##vote MoosyDoosy

Isn't doing shit. Just sitting here idle. Mafia or anti town but for sure afraid to die.


Meh... Why are you saying this as your reason when you just said yourself that you're afraid to die?


I agree this was a shit vote.


Show nested quote +
On October 13 2015 19:31 Tictock wrote:
Kinda interesting though how Moosy responded to both points of pressure in pg1.

On October 13 2015 08:22 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On October 13 2015 08:20 Koshi wrote:
God dammit I can't contain my spamming. What a joke I am.

Last post.

Only quality posts from now on.

I love you too.

On October 13 2015 09:01 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On October 13 2015 08:52 Superbia wrote:
I actually can't rly play atm. Be back later tomorrow probably. Don't like Moosy's reaction to Koshi.

Ah~ Alas, 'tis a curse in TL where everyone seems to wish to lynch me. Such sadness i have never known before.


Specially since he just stopped posting after that.

Way to have two opinions at the same time. "Koshi's vote on Moosy was shit, but Moosy's reactions was shit".

Show nested quote +
On October 13 2015 19:33 Tictock wrote:
also I have weak shit town reads on

GB
Copcake
onegu

Selling his opinions short. "hey I have reads but they don't matter!"

I think TT is not-town.


Yep, i'm totally capable of having two opinions. Its really easy when they dont even really clash with each other.

My townreads were shit, based on a post each and something like meta. They are my reads with stuff backing them that shouldn't convince anyone else so I'm not going to bother spelling it out.

I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
October 13 2015 16:28 GMT
#252
On October 13 2015 20:56 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2015 20:51 Rels wrote:
On October 13 2015 09:50 GlowingBear wrote:
O hai!

I'm thrall

This post made me go like "WTF I know something is wrong". I need to check stuff.

GB almost used the same opening last game:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2015 07:09 GlowingBear wrote:
By the way:

O hai!

I'm town

It was actually his second post.

So this might indicate he's not-town replicating something he did as town last game. After all, if he's called out on that, he can always says "I did that to fish for reactions!"

Will see if he ever:
- did the same opening two times in a row as town, or
- did the same opening as mafia than the last time he was town


You are focusing alot on meta reads Rels... This worries me.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
October 13 2015 16:30 GMT
#253
On October 13 2015 23:42 MoosyDoosy wrote:
I kind of like how I'm doing nothing and yet I'm still alive.


What did you expect mid day?

I hope this doesn't mean you plan to skate by.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
October 13 2015 16:37 GMT
#254
Rels also skipped over something I was sure he would call out.

I should double check that everyone has posted when I get home, I might be on to something.
I can take that responsibility.
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
October 13 2015 16:45 GMT
#255
On October 13 2015 20:20 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2015 09:02 Alakaslam wrote:
Good afternoon. Koshi, sson

You gotta remember you even hate on your own balance work

Now that I am busy setting facts straight. ↑This is a lie.
Only in voice mafia I made a small judgement error.

Sson you helped develop the balance of imperial, forgot you had done that, and hated on the balance afterward XD
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
October 13 2015 16:48 GMT
#256
On October 13 2015 20:35 GlowingBear wrote:
Slam bein carefree doesn't make him town

Precision

Don't expect to read me but please try as hard as you can, kthx
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
October 13 2015 16:49 GMT
#257
On October 13 2015 20:35 Xatalos wrote:
At some point in time I think Koshi was a very calm and analytical player. Dunno what happened since then, but something must have broken him lol

Yes

I can't remember what it was but the hypocrisy is deep and prolific
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
October 13 2015 16:51 GMT
#258
On October 13 2015 20:40 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2015 08:15 Koshi wrote:
Town.

Going to go with a plynch all liars through the entire game. Will totally ruin the game because town are lying bitches. But I will do it.

If nobody lies I will use spidersenses.

4 antitown. Way too much anti town kp. First days are a joke.

If there are 9 townies who need to lynch 4 anti townies while these antitownies got 4 kp and are immune to the other antitownies their kp the game is a total joke.

There are also way to many blue roles. Blue roles with completely random effects based on the skill of the player.


So tbh. If I try and lynch anti town D1 I will just get rewarded with a bullet and anti town will start shooting town faster than we can lynch anti town. Doesn't make any fucking sense.



tldr 1: Koshi is going to do absolutely nothing the first days because the game looks like a joke. He might say some random shit about random people. He will appreciate it that when these random people are actually anti town that they won't shoot Koshi.

tldr2: Read tldr 1

I completely disagree with this:
1 - lynching anti town > lynching town
2 - if it's that obvious he will "get rewarded with a bullet", why wouldn't it be obviously rewarded with a medic prot

Nonono shhhhhh.

You need him to dig deeper before burial.

Shh. You will tip him off that he cannot get to China this way...

He will simply reach madagascar
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
October 13 2015 16:51 GMT
#259
I've reevaluated Koshi and I think he is most likely town. A very stupid one. Stop using numbers when playing a rhetoric game.

Moosy stands to me like town. I think uninterested play is very suicidal for mafia. There is no mafia motivation to keep posting like he is. Here is the best example where I don't see mafia motivation behind a post:
On October 13 2015 23:42 MoosyDoosy wrote:
I kind of like how I'm doing nothing and yet I'm still alive.


Also here: + Show Spoiler +
On October 13 2015 08:49 MoosyDoosy wrote:
I'm kind of wondering if CopCake still hates me. o-o I hope she doesn't.


Same with Slam, but in a smaller degree. The fact that he states he is bored makes me think he is excited to catch mafia. I mean, there was no need to rant like in here + Show Spoiler +
On October 13 2015 11:34 Alakaslam wrote:
What a dead thread!

Guess I will go really read and reread Koshi's dramas
if he is mafia. He would just sit back and let the thread be silent.

I dislike Cake for the unexplained townreads.

I dislike Sylencia for a couple of posts. This one seems so forced + Show Spoiler +
On October 13 2015 14:40 Sylencia wrote:
The more haikus made
The more I want to kill you
JK, good gimmick

Also CopCake, how does that 1 line make Superbia anti-town?

The joke is so off. The focused question is also so off. She gave a lot of reads, why is he focusing only on Superbia?

(I'm on page 7 and cba to keep reading, gonna do that later again)
I'm adorable.
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
October 13 2015 16:51 GMT
#260
On October 13 2015 20:41 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2015 20:39 GlowingBear wrote:
Xata what do you think of Cake?


I'll reserve my judgment until later since last time I played with her she was like the towniest player in the game (tone/attitude-wise) but was scum after all :D

This pheeeeeer
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