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On September 15 2015 00:13 geript wrote: So the second hardest thing to learn from nursing is cardiac patterns. Because there are so many things to look for and it's literally a tree of information to scope out. And as part of the pre-course, I have to do an assessment on them. Fuck my life. what's the hardest thing then. If you have a smart phone check out rhythm tutor. | ||
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On September 15 2015 12:37 Tictock wrote: Hiya! I'm town, not the martyr though. 100% town holy grail pls. Will discuss rayn's plan and the rest after I read some more. | ||
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On September 15 2015 09:07 raynpelikoneet wrote: this game is stupidly slow, can you americans get there already? Rayn this post makes me question if you're town. It's just excessively tryhard and achieves nothing except making you look like a tryhard. | ||
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And the witches only learn the roles of who they kill if their rolecop role survives. | ||
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LS TheShining Bill Murray Dandel Ion | ||
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Still, later in the game the role can prove useful cause if he witnesses a witch kill being saved by angels the martyr can confirm him as town after claiming. | ||
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Btw FF is in my haircross this game. | ||
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I'm at something like FF/geript/BM and some dudes in the good list of shitty dudes that me and Rels posted. Not enough people being townie enough yet. Also I'd ask that we extend this day to the max since I'm getting souped next night. | ||
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TT Rels FF Town with chance of tinfoil: Rayn (He's experienced with the setup and he's not going to give you bad advice if he's mafia. He's going to use the good advice to his own advantage. See if he actually scumhunts and cares, cause he's not going to try to fool you into bad plays setup-wise as either alignment) Interesting stuff part 1: On September 15 2015 07:23 Damdred wrote: Listen to rayn here the best play is martyr claim there is no downside they are going to die more than likely n1 anyway. If I claim yes, but if I don't, then only if I martyr. Sounds a bit like you threw that there hastily as own reasoning, but it doesn't really apply. On September 15 2015 07:50 Damdred wrote: I'd actually like the grail. While I like to think I'm a good town player for whatever reason I have a history of living late which is annoying but it is what it is. So vote grail for me. I like the boldness in asking for that thing. Damdy is null to townie. | ||
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Witches select a witch kill and soup kill me but I martyr anyway for the witch kill and there's not really a roleblock I know of as long as no witch died. | ||
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He omgused me before finishing to read the thread and noticing I'm confirmed until proven otherwise. | ||
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Cause he isn't worried in the slightest that he might get lynched. As mafia you choose your scumreads more carefully, you don't throw them out like that before having caught up. There's only a small chance I'm reading too much into it cause it's FF but usually that applies. He doesn't care much when he's town, and is actually quite good at playing scum and making the impression that he cares and has some real scumreads. I don't think it's the latter in this game. | ||
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On September 15 2015 18:26 raynpelikoneet wrote: oh yeah and geript is totally town. Idk his role related shenannies can be faked. He was in SOTW 1 and probably knows what to do better than the rest. I think you're giving him too much credit here. | ||
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On September 15 2015 18:41 raynpelikoneet wrote: I am reading him town for his read on LS because it's super good. The less than LS question thingy? Yea you're right, he does have a point there. | ||
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On September 15 2015 19:19 Tictock wrote: Humm, prob a legit post from Fidei right there. I am disappointed regardless. He can have the time but the post doesn't make him anything. Either way we're waiting for LS to come back and show us his alignment. | ||
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On September 15 2015 21:29 raynpelikoneet wrote: If she has read like one page of the game and has never played this game i don't know how she trusts me enough to make the claim when she does (especially i derped and didn't even notice Palmar had changed the role slightly before like page 12)..... A lot of people including Damdred and Ticktock trusted that, I don't really see her being an exception here. | ||
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Mafia knows it's true so they wouldn't bother posting something like that. Didn't particularly like rayn pointing that out as something scummy but also don't see a reason to consider rayn for lynch on D1, will stay in the back of my head for now though. | ||
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Scumlean on Damdred. HtS stays in null territory, I liked her opinion on geript's post on LS, it made me change perspective a bit, had to reread it myself a couple of times but then I saw where geript was coming from, it was kinda formulaic tho. Point about HtS being that she is showing effort but it can come from both alignments, she committed a bit on my points about FF but not willing to read her either way so far. Geript goes to null-scummish territory cause of personal meta. In some recent game I scumread him for being too tryhard to the point where I thought he was just playing it. Turned out he was the tracker, anyway he's not really anything like that in this game. BM kinda doing his own thing, disagrees with me on basically everything. Well, I disagree with him as well and I'm just gonna let him do his own thing for now and keep him null, BUT I find it interesting he points out how he disagrees with me and not rayn who at the time agreed with me on Rels and TT, and BM called rayn town from the get go. What irks me here is that he prefers to compare his reads to mine rather than to rayn's. Will have to take a closer look at that I guess. | ||
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I'm reasonably sure we should lynch into BM or damdy today. | ||
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I'm going to pick apart a few of his posts: On September 16 2015 03:33 Bill Murray wrote: you know vivax and i disagree hard when his 3 town reads are my 3 scum reads thusfar I feel TT and Rels have been buddying and I had a scumread on TT Rels list is something I do as scum and I feel it tries to buy towncred He then goes into Maf wouldnt mess with grail D1 into D1 trying to give grail to TT TT was my original gut i felt like hey this guy is relatively new I dont know if he knows how to play scum but this is what I would imagine his words would read like if he did. I based my interactions off of that thusfar. I could consolidate on LS he might just be nervous and have a decent role but I could easily see him as scum acting the way he does "Buddying" is something you do when you try to pocket a townie, scum don't need to buddy each other. BM should know that. This post has pretty much contrary opinion to what me and Rayn said about Rels and TT and ends with him wanting to "consolidate" on LS for unmentioned reasons. On September 16 2015 03:40 Bill Murray wrote: well even if i think they might be town i want to break up their buddy buddy circlejerk Here rayn talked against his reads and notice how BM's reads shift towards thinking that Rels and TT might be town. Rayn agrees with FF being mafia. Also interesting wording implying that rayn and me aren't part of that buddy buddy circlejerk when BM is townreading all of us. Kinda minor point but seems like reasoning he just slapped in there. No mention of LS he was willing to consolidate on (2 minutes later he softens that scumread). I have no idea why rayn TRs him. Here BM reaches the point of zero scumreads: On September 16 2015 03:55 Bill Murray wrote: LS has a unique read there FF im gonna drop my scumread on you because i like your explanation - i didnt realize he ninja'd you there... but i remember reading the lol into lol followed by the influx of marijuana induced loling So he rereads to find something: On September 16 2015 04:00 Bill Murray wrote: ok Rels is town ~circa page 15 And finds something that suddenly makes Rels town... When it has been posted SIX HOURS before he scumread him for the buddy buddy and the list post. Proof: + Show Spoiler + On September 15 2015 17:20 Rels wrote: OK let's bring back this little thing. The useful list of useless people The Shining HTS LS fidei Dandel Ion If one person is still in this list at deadline I'll push him hard His post at page 15: On September 15 2015 21:52 Rels wrote: I don't understand you. You think rayn is doing a bad thing martyr hunting. You're the first to react to his plan. And instead of explaining WHY martyr hunting is bad, you post this: Then you gtfo. I think you're mafia. On September 16 2015 03:33 Bill Murray wrote: you know vivax and i disagree hard when his 3 town reads are my 3 scum reads thusfar I feel TT and Rels have been buddying and I had a scumread on TT Rels list is something I do as scum and I feel it tries to buy towncred He then goes into Maf wouldnt mess with grail D1 into D1 trying to give grail to TT TT was my original gut i felt like hey this guy is relatively new I dont know if he knows how to play scum but this is what I would imagine his words would read like if he did. I based my interactions off of that thusfar. I could consolidate on LS he might just be nervous and have a decent role but I could easily see him as scum acting the way he does On September 16 2015 04:00 Bill Murray wrote: ok Rels is town ~circa page 15 So yeah, BM is bullshittin | ||
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I look for the mafias who are trying, and there's ought to be one among the rest. It's a waste of time to try and decipher Dandel. | ||
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On September 17 2015 23:54 Rels wrote: Low activity is not the reason I'm sure is mafia. Why are you saying "if he's town he'll have reads at some point" ? He has two reads: Damdred and Shining. He didn't explain his Damdred read to HTS, and he lied explaining his Shining read. I never know if he's serious or if he just says things to antagonize people for funzies. As I recall his Damdred is town thingy came up right after somebody scumread him. I'm not gonna discuss this guy further it's a waste of space, just as he is in this game and most others. | ||
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On September 16 2015 04:40 The Shining wrote: I'm here. Post will probably be sloppy because I'm writing as I'm catching up. This post is so easy to make. -snipped- Rayn town, Vivax un-CCd town, I don't agree with Rels read of me for obvious reasons but he looks pretty solid town. -snipped- . Going from "this post is so easy to make" as if it's supposed to come from mafia to "he looks pretty solid town" doesn't seem very appropriate. | ||
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On September 18 2015 00:44 Dandel Ion wrote: vivax of all people is the one getting close oh boy this is gonna be a tough one It would help if you weren't playing like a bastard host with the solution on his table. | ||
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I can be malleable for Dandel shenannies too at this point since he didn't really try to push more on TS, but overall I feel unsure about stuff. Still would like a BM lynch much but nobody wants that (including mafia apparently). | ||
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On September 18 2015 05:21 geript wrote: Like I don't have really well thought out, thoroughly developed reads on people, but the thing is that there have been a few that really stuck out to me. Fido not posting much is a big warning light. I think I posted something about him yesterday too when I thought it was deadline. The LS points are really, really good. I don't get why people aren't sheeping them. What ls points | ||
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Going to vote Damdred as I am still not impressed by his plaý and he seems to have the best chances of getting lynched among my suspects. I really think BM is mafia but you aren't convinced. Well, enjoy having him around I say, whatever happens I'm going to die tonight. Remember this: My death will be announced if I die by martyring. Not sure if the actual target will be revealed atm and dont wanna check. Anyway the point is that whoever was targeted can as well role claim since mafia will know his role even if I sacrifice myself for him. | ||
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For that matter we don't even know what Dandel was. Maybe he was grandier, maybe he was crusader, but maybe I'm overestimating his skill. Anyway, that was a really odd night kill. Going to revisit geript and especially rayn. | ||
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I still don't know why geript died though. | ||
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So the worst thing I can find atm is his lack of scumreads. | ||
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he should definitely be lynched before ls who is one of the most mislynched players on the forum atm. more once i reach my pc | ||
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Why would you lynch LS who has like 6 pages of filter over Damdred with shitty 2 pages just cause maybe the inquisitor checked him and is a guy who can never claim until he red checked two witches for the claim to be worth it. | ||
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Doesn't matter what you people talked about during D1. The inquisitor either is dead didn't listen to you might even have red checked Damdred and doesn't claim cause claiming would be idiotic if he trades himself for one witch. He needs at least two checks before claiming can have any value and even then it's situational. Cause mafia soups us both the night after. You guys are so fucking hung up on roles this game, it's like Guardians of the galaxy where people fuck up by basing everything on the plays around roles. Fuck your roles, lynch people who play like mafia. | ||
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On September 20 2015 21:28 raynpelikoneet wrote: LS, James, TT. Final answer. lol no | ||
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The only way you don't see this is cause you aren't town. | ||
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Rayn puts it as if Damdred's alignment was relevant but he doesn't really care while he keeps using that excuse to not do anything about Dam and push the easy lynch LS. So rayn is mafia too, which also explains BM's odd behaviour towards rayn on D1. Just not sure who between FF/Damdred is the most likely third. FF gave me a weird impression during the course of the game but if Dam is town then I don't know why he's (not) playing like that. | ||
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On September 20 2015 21:38 Bill Murray wrote: his "research" is largely stolen, at least in the last 10 pages. There are 3 major instances of this. 1) cop plan 2) lynch analysis 3) wagon analysis That doesn't make anyone mafia, and nobody gives a shit about that kind of analysis. When you all talk about the same stuff there's going to be similarities. What you're arguing about is just dumb. | ||
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vote LS Rayn is mafia in this game boys | ||
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On September 20 2015 21:55 Rels wrote: geript could be pope too if LS is mafia please explain how you know geript is 100% wraith I think it has already been said somewhere that LS is exposing himself to the risk of a double CC if he says he's the pope AND he has been visited by the wraith (which would make sense if it was geript cause he was suspicious of LS I suppose) | ||
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But why does rayn acknowledge this in this case and not in the case of an hypotheitcal inquisitor outing Damdred? | ||
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On September 21 2015 03:22 raynpelikoneet wrote: Now i am gonna have a glass of Talisker Dark Stormand watch some Heroes. Maybe i'll care to put some effort tomorrow. ![[image loading]](http://livingwell7.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/giantMartiniGlass.jpg) | ||
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## Deadline Vote Damdred Thought a little about the scenario of leaving LS alive vs lynching him. If we leave him alive and he's town mafia soups us both or they're stupid. If we lynch him and he's town mafia kill either me or some other dude and we didn't reach anything today. This isn't town Damdred, it's more like maximum apathy Damdred. | ||
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On September 21 2015 21:13 raynpelikoneet wrote: James is so fucking mafia. So so mafia. I'm mildly open to the idea but going to need a quick recap of reasons, didn't really feel that strongly about him being anything when reading. He was quite talkative about a lot of things. | ||
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Tinfoily part: He and BM went after Rels after I posted the Dam/rayn/FF/BM combination which I think contains mafia yesterday. And he goes after Rels when people start moving to Damdred. Not really an argument but it reinforces me in my belief. | ||
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On September 22 2015 00:12 raynpelikoneet wrote: I am not answering anything to you because you are mafia. Now go die scum. This attitude is just clutter and you would know it. | ||
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The whole thing with BM and Rels brought up a couple of interesting points, but I think they are both town. WHAT POINTS. Damdred and Fidei have both been completely absent today, which makes it hard especially when Damdred has been heavily contested all game. Fidei I think at least has a decent excuse for putting more focus on his other game, but I'm thinking this makes him a solid check. WAT I'll throw together a post as to why I think the claim LS made is BS, if he somehow turns out to be town then Damdred is a solid shot if he will not play the game. I don't think they are both mafia here. HOW DOES HE TURN TOWN IN A SETUP WITH NO FLIPS. WAT. I'm kinda ignoring rayn going off on Rels for the post that says I'm higher on his PoE than rayn, but I do find it odd that Rels listed Rayn and LS as more town than me. Especially when I thought he was only reading LS as town based on meta from other people. BUT RELS IS THE SPAM-RESEARCH-INTERACTION-CAREFACTOR-MACHINE in this game. He will never be mafia. | ||
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NEVER EVER NEVER blergh | ||
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Damdred doesn't care in the slightest and he had a SHITTON of out of game days to fix that and whatever he's busy with, and he still doesn't care. All this role talk doesn't change that fact which is a fact that makes people mafia or douchebag townies. | ||
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Just that you think he should be lynched. Gotta check if TickTock went more into detail with his LS stuff | ||
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On September 24 2015 02:51 Fecalfeast wrote: ANYTHING BEFORE YOU HAVE FULLY CAUGHT UP lol | ||
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Fidei was kinda meh when I read him, didn't figure it out from his first posts. Always had him as null. Damdred probably really busy, but easy to catch from that low activity. He'd probably have tried to get out a bit more if he were town. | ||
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