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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14276 Posts
September 10 2015 13:15 GMT
#24
/in I waited so long for a Palmar game :o
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14276 Posts
September 11 2015 01:35 GMT
#38
On September 10 2015 23:34 Damdred wrote:
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On September 10 2015 22:15 LightningStrike wrote:
/in I waited so long for a Palmar game :o


Just remember claiming is not so good

Ya since everyone is a role lol.
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14276 Posts
September 11 2015 21:07 GMT
#45
On September 11 2015 17:36 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2015 10:35 LightningStrike wrote:
On September 10 2015 23:34 Damdred wrote:
On September 10 2015 22:15 LightningStrike wrote:
/in I waited so long for a Palmar game :o


Just remember claiming is not so good

Ya since everyone is a role lol.

because mafia can kill you for free if you claim

Ya I saw the roles about that.
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14276 Posts
September 14 2015 22:18 GMT
#80
Hi guys I don't have much time atm but I'm here and Town so let's get down to business!
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14276 Posts
September 14 2015 22:20 GMT
#82
So rayn since you want the martyr to claim do you see any benefit of them not claiming at all?
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14276 Posts
September 15 2015 12:33 GMT
#261
I'm back and ofc people want to lynch me I went afk. I honestly went to pokemon but I had take care of some college stuff when I got home. Now about the Martyr claim: I don't really like it myself because if you think about who would the martyr protect if they protect anyone? I feel like rayn could be mafia for his martyr hunting despite him being the main person speaking in the thread.
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14276 Posts
September 15 2015 12:37 GMT
#266
Also people that tend push are generally are mafia when I'm given my history. I never even played with rels before that could the most true thing of the rule of LS Town which if a new player who never played with me before tries to push me chances are they are mafia looking for a easy lynch. I had this happen time and time again so(shrugs).
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14276 Posts
September 15 2015 12:39 GMT
#270
On September 15 2015 21:37 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2015 21:33 LightningStrike wrote:
I'm back and ofc people want to lynch me I went afk. I honestly went to pokemon but I had take care of some college stuff when I got home. Now about the Martyr claim: I don't really like it myself because if you think about who would the martyr protect if they protect anyone? I feel like rayn could be mafia for his martyr hunting despite him being the main person speaking in the thread.

1 - I don't understand your question
2 - Why is rayn mafia for martyr hunting ?

Because role hunting I think is a stupid idea esp because of the mechanics involving about mafia can guess someone's role correctly and bam they are dead. Martyrs are actually useful as the game progresses and Rayn knows that.
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14276 Posts
September 15 2015 12:40 GMT
#271
Shit I needed to read the thread more carefully. Fucking hell Vivax...............................
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14276 Posts
September 15 2015 12:43 GMT
#276
On September 15 2015 21:40 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2015 21:37 LightningStrike wrote:
Also people that tend push are generally are mafia when I'm given my history. I never even played with rels before that could the most true thing of the rule of LS Town which if a new player who never played with me before tries to push me chances are they are mafia looking for a easy lynch. I had this happen time and time again so(shrugs).

There are multiple people pushing you. Why are you attacking me, when I'm voting The Shining ?

Remeber when I said I need to read the thread more carefully? Ya that exactly what happen I saw that you had me in a list but you were voting Shining. Damdred the last he was mafia he called me out when I was town very early in Gaiden 1 so I still having a little pause for now on him.
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14276 Posts
September 15 2015 12:45 GMT
#278
On September 15 2015 21:42 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2015 21:39 LightningStrike wrote:
On September 15 2015 21:37 Rels wrote:
On September 15 2015 21:33 LightningStrike wrote:
I'm back and ofc people want to lynch me I went afk. I honestly went to pokemon but I had take care of some college stuff when I got home. Now about the Martyr claim: I don't really like it myself because if you think about who would the martyr protect if they protect anyone? I feel like rayn could be mafia for his martyr hunting despite him being the main person speaking in the thread.

1 - I don't understand your question
2 - Why is rayn mafia for martyr hunting ?

Because role hunting I think is a stupid idea esp because of the mechanics involving about mafia can guess someone's role correctly and bam they are dead. Martyrs are actually useful as the game progresses and Rayn knows that.

Role hunting != martyr hunting.
So: why is rayn mafia for martyr hunting ? In other words: why is martyr claiming D1 bad ?
And I still don't understand your question.

I didn't ask a question I was just giving my thoughts about the claim. Martyrs can protect town leaders or the person who gets the Holy Grail as the game progress.
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14276 Posts
September 15 2015 12:49 GMT
#281
On September 15 2015 21:47 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2015 21:45 LightningStrike wrote:
On September 15 2015 21:42 Rels wrote:
On September 15 2015 21:39 LightningStrike wrote:
On September 15 2015 21:37 Rels wrote:
On September 15 2015 21:33 LightningStrike wrote:
I'm back and ofc people want to lynch me I went afk. I honestly went to pokemon but I had take care of some college stuff when I got home. Now about the Martyr claim: I don't really like it myself because if you think about who would the martyr protect if they protect anyone? I feel like rayn could be mafia for his martyr hunting despite him being the main person speaking in the thread.

1 - I don't understand your question
2 - Why is rayn mafia for martyr hunting ?

Because role hunting I think is a stupid idea esp because of the mechanics involving about mafia can guess someone's role correctly and bam they are dead. Martyrs are actually useful as the game progresses and Rayn knows that.

Role hunting != martyr hunting.
So: why is rayn mafia for martyr hunting ? In other words: why is martyr claiming D1 bad ?
And I still don't understand your question.

I didn't ask a question I was just giving my thoughts about the claim. Martyrs can protect town leaders or the person who gets the Holy Grail as the game progress.

Talking about this:
Show nested quote +

I don't really like it myself because if you think about who would the martyr protect if they protect anyone?

Show nested quote +
On September 15 2015 21:45 LightningStrike wrote:
Martyrs can protect town leaders or the person who gets the Holy Grail as the game progress.

I was thinking like you, but because of rolecop + soup it doesn't actually work very well. Martyring protecting just means the target is going to die next night without a possible angel save.

I was trying to see more of what Rayn was thinking because I thought it was a dumb idea to Martyr hunt. The Angel save could be used still but not as effective true but still the Martyr can do their job for them?
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14276 Posts
September 15 2015 12:51 GMT
#282
On September 15 2015 21:48 Rels wrote:
Can you answer this too ?
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2015 16:56 Rels wrote:
Fucking seriously. rayn posts this explaining why martyr not claiming is a bad idea:
On September 15 2015 07:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Now the martyr role, if used and not claimed does the following:
1) You die, noone in the town knows who mafia killed.
2) noone in the town knows your role, mafia does
3) noone in the town knows the role mafia tried to kill, mafia does.

It gives mafia an uncontested soup kill (their actual night kill) AND it gives them a possible fakeclaim (martyr) later on.

Then LS post this 3 minutes later:
On September 15 2015 07:20 LightningStrike wrote:
So rayn since you want the martyr to claim do you see any benefit of them not claiming at all?


@LS did you read rayn post (the first quote in this post) before asking a question ?


Yes but it wasn't really detailed about benefits of not claiming Martyr from him and have him post it in the thread but he didn't though.
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14276 Posts
September 15 2015 12:56 GMT
#286
BTW Here is Gaiden me(Town) vs Damdred(Mafia) when he called me out early that game when I was the 2 Shot Gunsmith:
Me: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/488082-tl-mafia-lxxi-gaiden?user=LightningStrike
Damdred: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/488082-tl-mafia-lxxi-gaiden?user=Damdred
Whole game: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/488082-tl-mafia-lxxi-gaiden
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14276 Posts
September 15 2015 12:59 GMT
#288
On September 15 2015 21:56 Half the Sky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2015 21:33 LightningStrike wrote:
I'm back and ofc people want to lynch me I went afk. I honestly went to pokemon but I had take care of some college stuff when I got home. Now about the Martyr claim: I don't really like it myself because if you think about who would the martyr protect if they protect anyone? I feel like rayn could be mafia for his martyr hunting despite him being the main person speaking in the thread.


Show nested quote +
On September 15 2015 21:40 Rels wrote:
On September 15 2015 21:37 LightningStrike wrote:
Also people that tend push are generally are mafia when I'm given my history. I never even played with rels before that could the most true thing of the rule of LS Town which if a new player who never played with me before tries to push me chances are they are mafia looking for a easy lynch. I had this happen time and time again so(shrugs).

There are multiple people pushing you. Why are you attacking me, when I'm voting The Shining ?


Show nested quote +
On September 15 2015 16:54 Rels wrote:
On September 15 2015 07:18 LightningStrike wrote:
Hi guys I don't have much time atm but I'm here and Town so let's get down to business!

On September 15 2015 07:20 LightningStrike wrote:
So rayn since you want the martyr to claim do you see any benefit of them not claiming at all?

Alright that is super scummy.
The first post looks like he doesn't know what to say.
The second post is a fucking useless question that is answered by rayn's previous post about why martyr should claim. Plus, a question is not what I call "getting down to business".


Does it look like Rels pushed you for being afk?
What makes you think this is a mafia-motivated post (the third quote)?

I am making the assumption that if you read up to the part where Vivax claimed you would have covered this section that I quoted.

That was from earlier(I had misread the thread as I only skimmed the thread after my last post from yesterday) and he was having his vote on Shining who is afk but I don't know if it's for real life reasons or not but I really don't like lurker lynches myself.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14276 Posts
September 15 2015 13:01 GMT
#290
On September 15 2015 22:00 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2015 21:59 LightningStrike wrote:
On September 15 2015 21:56 Half the Sky wrote:
On September 15 2015 21:33 LightningStrike wrote:
I'm back and ofc people want to lynch me I went afk. I honestly went to pokemon but I had take care of some college stuff when I got home. Now about the Martyr claim: I don't really like it myself because if you think about who would the martyr protect if they protect anyone? I feel like rayn could be mafia for his martyr hunting despite him being the main person speaking in the thread.


On September 15 2015 21:40 Rels wrote:
On September 15 2015 21:37 LightningStrike wrote:
Also people that tend push are generally are mafia when I'm given my history. I never even played with rels before that could the most true thing of the rule of LS Town which if a new player who never played with me before tries to push me chances are they are mafia looking for a easy lynch. I had this happen time and time again so(shrugs).

There are multiple people pushing you. Why are you attacking me, when I'm voting The Shining ?


On September 15 2015 16:54 Rels wrote:
On September 15 2015 07:18 LightningStrike wrote:
Hi guys I don't have much time atm but I'm here and Town so let's get down to business!

On September 15 2015 07:20 LightningStrike wrote:
So rayn since you want the martyr to claim do you see any benefit of them not claiming at all?

Alright that is super scummy.
The first post looks like he doesn't know what to say.
The second post is a fucking useless question that is answered by rayn's previous post about why martyr should claim. Plus, a question is not what I call "getting down to business".


Does it look like Rels pushed you for being afk?
What makes you think this is a mafia-motivated post (the third quote)?

I am making the assumption that if you read up to the part where Vivax claimed you would have covered this section that I quoted.

That was from earlier(I had misread the thread as I only skimmed the thread after my last post from yesterday) and he was having his vote on Shining who is afk but I don't know if it's for real life reasons or not but I really don't like lurker lynches myself.

I'm not voting Shining for being AFK.
I'm not scumreading you for being AFK.

Seem like it though at the time?
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14276 Posts
September 15 2015 13:02 GMT
#291
BTW that was rude to say GTFO regardless of your alignment people might actually rage quit regardless of their alignment if you say mean stuff towards them.
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14276 Posts
September 15 2015 13:05 GMT
#293
On September 15 2015 22:04 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2015 22:01 LightningStrike wrote:
On September 15 2015 22:00 Rels wrote:
On September 15 2015 21:59 LightningStrike wrote:
On September 15 2015 21:56 Half the Sky wrote:
On September 15 2015 21:33 LightningStrike wrote:
I'm back and ofc people want to lynch me I went afk. I honestly went to pokemon but I had take care of some college stuff when I got home. Now about the Martyr claim: I don't really like it myself because if you think about who would the martyr protect if they protect anyone? I feel like rayn could be mafia for his martyr hunting despite him being the main person speaking in the thread.


On September 15 2015 21:40 Rels wrote:
On September 15 2015 21:37 LightningStrike wrote:
Also people that tend push are generally are mafia when I'm given my history. I never even played with rels before that could the most true thing of the rule of LS Town which if a new player who never played with me before tries to push me chances are they are mafia looking for a easy lynch. I had this happen time and time again so(shrugs).

There are multiple people pushing you. Why are you attacking me, when I'm voting The Shining ?


On September 15 2015 16:54 Rels wrote:
On September 15 2015 07:18 LightningStrike wrote:
Hi guys I don't have much time atm but I'm here and Town so let's get down to business!

On September 15 2015 07:20 LightningStrike wrote:
So rayn since you want the martyr to claim do you see any benefit of them not claiming at all?

Alright that is super scummy.
The first post looks like he doesn't know what to say.
The second post is a fucking useless question that is answered by rayn's previous post about why martyr should claim. Plus, a question is not what I call "getting down to business".


Does it look like Rels pushed you for being afk?
What makes you think this is a mafia-motivated post (the third quote)?

I am making the assumption that if you read up to the part where Vivax claimed you would have covered this section that I quoted.

That was from earlier(I had misread the thread as I only skimmed the thread after my last post from yesterday) and he was having his vote on Shining who is afk but I don't know if it's for real life reasons or not but I really don't like lurker lynches myself.

I'm not voting Shining for being AFK.
I'm not scumreading you for being AFK.

Seem like it though at the time?

What time ?
You're not making sense.
And you still don't explain why rayn should have been the one explaining the benefits of martyr not claiming D1. YOU should have been the one doing that if you didn't agree. You cannot ask a question, AFK, then come back 12 hours later and be like "Why did people listen to rayn ? Martyr hunting is a bad idea!"

Because should always see two sides of a coin in terms of benefits of claiming or not and I finding odd he didn't though.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14276 Posts
September 15 2015 13:10 GMT
#299
On September 15 2015 22:05 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2015 22:02 LightningStrike wrote:
BTW that was rude to say GTFO regardless of your alignment people might actually rage quit regardless of their alignment if you say mean stuff towards them.

OK regardless of alignment, you need to calm down and read properly.
Read the sentence again.
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2015 21:52 Rels wrote:
I don't understand you.

You think rayn is doing a bad thing martyr hunting. You're the first to react to his plan.

And instead of explaining WHY martyr hunting is bad, you post this:
On September 15 2015 07:20 LightningStrike wrote:
So rayn since you want the martyr to claim do you see any benefit of them not claiming at all?

Then you gtfo.
I think you're mafia.

I was saying you left the thread after asking rayn a question.
I didn't say you needed to gtfo right now.

On September 15 2015 21:52 Rels wrote:
I don't understand you.

You think rayn is doing a bad thing martyr hunting. You're the first to react to his plan.

And instead of explaining WHY martyr hunting is bad, you post this:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2015 07:20 LightningStrike wrote:
So rayn since you want the martyr to claim do you see any benefit of them not claiming at all?

Then you gtfo.
I think you're mafia.

I taken that way but yet I didn't gtfo? Also if you had read my first post I already had said I wasn't going be around for long(longer than expected though because having College stuff to take care of)
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14276 Posts
September 15 2015 13:12 GMT
#301
On September 15 2015 22:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2015 22:05 LightningStrike wrote:
On September 15 2015 22:04 Rels wrote:
On September 15 2015 22:01 LightningStrike wrote:
On September 15 2015 22:00 Rels wrote:
On September 15 2015 21:59 LightningStrike wrote:
On September 15 2015 21:56 Half the Sky wrote:
On September 15 2015 21:33 LightningStrike wrote:
I'm back and ofc people want to lynch me I went afk. I honestly went to pokemon but I had take care of some college stuff when I got home. Now about the Martyr claim: I don't really like it myself because if you think about who would the martyr protect if they protect anyone? I feel like rayn could be mafia for his martyr hunting despite him being the main person speaking in the thread.


On September 15 2015 21:40 Rels wrote:
On September 15 2015 21:37 LightningStrike wrote:
Also people that tend push are generally are mafia when I'm given my history. I never even played with rels before that could the most true thing of the rule of LS Town which if a new player who never played with me before tries to push me chances are they are mafia looking for a easy lynch. I had this happen time and time again so(shrugs).

There are multiple people pushing you. Why are you attacking me, when I'm voting The Shining ?


On September 15 2015 16:54 Rels wrote:
On September 15 2015 07:18 LightningStrike wrote:
Hi guys I don't have much time atm but I'm here and Town so let's get down to business!

On September 15 2015 07:20 LightningStrike wrote:
So rayn since you want the martyr to claim do you see any benefit of them not claiming at all?

Alright that is super scummy.
The first post looks like he doesn't know what to say.
The second post is a fucking useless question that is answered by rayn's previous post about why martyr should claim. Plus, a question is not what I call "getting down to business".


Does it look like Rels pushed you for being afk?
What makes you think this is a mafia-motivated post (the third quote)?

I am making the assumption that if you read up to the part where Vivax claimed you would have covered this section that I quoted.

That was from earlier(I had misread the thread as I only skimmed the thread after my last post from yesterday) and he was having his vote on Shining who is afk but I don't know if it's for real life reasons or not but I really don't like lurker lynches myself.

I'm not voting Shining for being AFK.
I'm not scumreading you for being AFK.

Seem like it though at the time?

What time ?
You're not making sense.
And you still don't explain why rayn should have been the one explaining the benefits of martyr not claiming D1. YOU should have been the one doing that if you didn't agree. You cannot ask a question, AFK, then come back 12 hours later and be like "Why did people listen to rayn ? Martyr hunting is a bad idea!"

Because should always see two sides of a coin in terms of benefits of claiming or not and I finding odd he didn't though.

explain the other side then.
i already did explain why there isn't one.

I already explained my side to Rels if you had taken a look between my conversation between myself and him. Martyr's can protect town leaders or the person gets the Holy Grail so it not a complete waste to have a Martyr not claim. I feel like I hitting my head on a brickwall already............
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14276 Posts
September 15 2015 13:13 GMT
#303
On September 15 2015 22:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2015 22:12 LightningStrike wrote:
On September 15 2015 22:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 15 2015 22:05 LightningStrike wrote:
On September 15 2015 22:04 Rels wrote:
On September 15 2015 22:01 LightningStrike wrote:
On September 15 2015 22:00 Rels wrote:
On September 15 2015 21:59 LightningStrike wrote:
On September 15 2015 21:56 Half the Sky wrote:
On September 15 2015 21:33 LightningStrike wrote:
I'm back and ofc people want to lynch me I went afk. I honestly went to pokemon but I had take care of some college stuff when I got home. Now about the Martyr claim: I don't really like it myself because if you think about who would the martyr protect if they protect anyone? I feel like rayn could be mafia for his martyr hunting despite him being the main person speaking in the thread.


On September 15 2015 21:40 Rels wrote:
[quote]
There are multiple people pushing you. Why are you attacking me, when I'm voting The Shining ?


On September 15 2015 16:54 Rels wrote:
[quote]
[quote]
Alright that is super scummy.
The first post looks like he doesn't know what to say.
The second post is a fucking useless question that is answered by rayn's previous post about why martyr should claim. Plus, a question is not what I call "getting down to business".


Does it look like Rels pushed you for being afk?
What makes you think this is a mafia-motivated post (the third quote)?

I am making the assumption that if you read up to the part where Vivax claimed you would have covered this section that I quoted.

That was from earlier(I had misread the thread as I only skimmed the thread after my last post from yesterday) and he was having his vote on Shining who is afk but I don't know if it's for real life reasons or not but I really don't like lurker lynches myself.

I'm not voting Shining for being AFK.
I'm not scumreading you for being AFK.

Seem like it though at the time?

What time ?
You're not making sense.
And you still don't explain why rayn should have been the one explaining the benefits of martyr not claiming D1. YOU should have been the one doing that if you didn't agree. You cannot ask a question, AFK, then come back 12 hours later and be like "Why did people listen to rayn ? Martyr hunting is a bad idea!"

Because should always see two sides of a coin in terms of benefits of claiming or not and I finding odd he didn't though.

explain the other side then.
i already did explain why there isn't one.

I already explained my side to Rels if you had taken a look between my conversation between myself and him. Martyr's can protect town leaders or the person gets the Holy Grail so it not a complete waste to have a Martyr not claim. I feel like I hitting my head on a brickwall already............

yes but your explanation does not make any sense at all.

It does in my mind(shrugs).
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#306
On September 15 2015 22:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:
LightningStrike do you understand the fact if martyr protects someone they are effectively a mafia rolecop.
Mafia wins when they rolecop enough people in a way or another.

Do you want to try explaining the other side of the coin again?

How do they act like a rolecop if they are alive? I still not understanding that part honestly.
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#308
BTW I now getting ready for College and will try to post some stuff between classes so if I afk that's why.
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#315
I here still but I aint claiming unless I have to and will reread the thread later. Rels check all my games out for my meta and you might be able to give a better read on me there the database have all my games I had played in it. HTS you disappoint me
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#319
On September 15 2015 22:18 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2015 22:10 LightningStrike wrote:
On September 15 2015 22:05 Rels wrote:
On September 15 2015 22:02 LightningStrike wrote:
BTW that was rude to say GTFO regardless of your alignment people might actually rage quit regardless of their alignment if you say mean stuff towards them.

OK regardless of alignment, you need to calm down and read properly.
Read the sentence again.
On September 15 2015 21:52 Rels wrote:
I don't understand you.

You think rayn is doing a bad thing martyr hunting. You're the first to react to his plan.

And instead of explaining WHY martyr hunting is bad, you post this:
On September 15 2015 07:20 LightningStrike wrote:
So rayn since you want the martyr to claim do you see any benefit of them not claiming at all?

Then you gtfo.
I think you're mafia.

I was saying you left the thread after asking rayn a question.
I didn't say you needed to gtfo right now.

On September 15 2015 21:52 Rels wrote:
I don't understand you.

You think rayn is doing a bad thing martyr hunting. You're the first to react to his plan.

And instead of explaining WHY martyr hunting is bad, you post this:
On September 15 2015 07:20 LightningStrike wrote:
So rayn since you want the martyr to claim do you see any benefit of them not claiming at all?

Then you gtfo.
I think you're mafia.

I taken that way but yet I didn't gtfo? Also if you had read my first post I already had said I wasn't going be around for long(longer than expected though because having College stuff to take care of)

You didn't leave but you left ? =D Anyway it's not the "you left" that is the bad part, it is the "I don't agree with this but I won't say it".

We have reached a dead end. I don't understand:
1 - Why you didn't explain how martyr hunting is bad at the beginning of the game when rayn was pushing super hard for the martyr to claim
2 - Why you asked rayn about the benefits of martyr not claiming when he clearly said he wanted the martyr to claim and explained why
3 - Why you are scumreading rayn for martyr hunting
4 - Why you are scumreading me for scumreading you
5 - Why you thought I am scumreading Shining and you for AFKing
I think you're mafia. No explanation on what you did earlier is going to change it. Things you do later might make me re evaluate.

1. I wanted him to think of the positives of not claiming at the time/
2. See 1.
3. Because role hunting is a stupid idea in general for this type of game.
4. Because I have never played with you before the LS rule is that when someone I never played with scumreads me more than likely they are mafia. See Titanic and Slytherin on prplhz(Titanic Mafia) and gooblyduke(or whatever his name was when he was scum in Slytherin)
5. Because Shining was afk at the time and so was I?
I sorry but I am Town you need to check my meta to understand me.
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September 15 2015 13:41 GMT
#320
On September 15 2015 22:35 Rels wrote:
would disagree on FF and geript
FF you're the second people saying he's playing his town meta. OK. For me it means nothing.
geript pushed LS' lynch from the very beginning, and I don't think mafia bus this early, especially this game with everyone being a role

Geript knows me well but idk how he thought that question wasn't one I would ever ask when I had asked some similar questions in my past games. That post from seems a little forced.
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#322
On September 15 2015 22:41 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2015 22:35 Rels wrote:
would disagree on FF and geript
FF you're the second people saying he's playing his town meta. OK. For me it means nothing.
geript pushed LS' lynch from the very beginning, and I don't think mafia bus this early, especially this game with everyone being a role

Geript knows me well but idk how he thought that question wasn't one I would ever ask when I had asked some similar questions in my past games. That post from seems a little forced.

I mean from Geript derped.(Refering to HTS post about Geript's reason for scumreading me)
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#324
On September 15 2015 22:42 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2015 22:35 LightningStrike wrote:
I here still but I aint claiming unless I have to and will reread the thread later. Rels check all my games out for my meta and you might be able to give a better read on me there the database have all my games I had played in it. HTS you disappoint me

If you feel something I didn't understand can be explained by meta, be my guest and quote stuff from other games. I'm not going to do that for you. Now you should stop martyring and start scumhunting.

I will later I seriously got to go in like 3 mins so I can't really scum hunt until after my first class or if I got time before my 1st class to post.
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#348
On September 15 2015 22:47 Half the Sky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2015 22:35 LightningStrike wrote:
I here still but I aint claiming unless I have to and will reread the thread later. Rels check all my games out for my meta and you might be able to give a better read on me there the database have all my games I had played in it. HTS you disappoint me


I am taking three things into account.

1 I'm aware you aren't particularly articulate.

2 I'm aware of your mafia meta, I am also aware you've said you don't like playing mafia and have trouble being the bad guy (reference Witchcraft 3).

3 I'm also aware of what you are capable of when you ARE town. This is why I tried to break down Rels' position for you. That he's scumreading you NOT for being AFK, and whether you can realistically break that down to being a mafia motivated post.

I'm purposely ignoring the mechanics based on #1 and focusing more based on #6 in Rels post why you aren't answering the questions.

Also I get the meta references on your end but the LS rule is quite arbitrary regardless of your alignment. The people scumreading you - even if aggressive - ARE breaking down why you are mafia or what about you looks mafia.

So if you ignore Rels and Rayn (hypothetically) for just a second, who is mafia?

1. There was a reason I had Tina be my translator
2. I do have trouble playing as a bad guy because I simply don't like to lie and wasn't coached properly except in JOAT when I bussed the shit out of Sandroba without my team's permission but it got me enough town cred for end game.
3. You think I capable of some of my posts as scum this game?
I was trying to the questions to the best of my abilities but he just understand me (pokes at Tina to translate stuff for Rels)
Damdred could be mafia for slacking off and doing any shit this entire game except calling me mafia in 1 post. Geript is a capable scum player you are correct on that and he coached me in JOAT and his wording seems very weird I agree with you there and the fact he asked rayn a little bit about me(I think I reading what you said in a earlier post) so he could be mafia for the weird wording about me. BTW I at college atmand I got some time before classes and will attempt to reread the thread now.
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#350
Also to expand on Damdred he didn't post reaons why I could mafia and wasn't pushing me at all after he called me mafia.
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#351
On September 15 2015 23:42 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2015 23:40 LightningStrike wrote:
3. You think I capable of some of my posts as scum this game?

What posts are you talking about

I asking HTS a question since she knows me well enough. I going to reread the thread more carefully now.
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#355
On September 15 2015 23:47 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2015 23:44 LightningStrike wrote:
On September 15 2015 23:42 Rels wrote:
On September 15 2015 23:40 LightningStrike wrote:
3. You think I capable of some of my posts as scum this game?

What posts are you talking about

I asking HTS a question since she knows me well enough. I going to reread the thread more carefully now.

I'm not asking why you said that.
You said: "I wouldn't make some of my posts if I was scum".
So I ask: what posts are you talking about ?

I was asking her if I am capable posting some of the posts as mafia. I meant to add if so which posts and I can explain my thought my process on the post.
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#356
On September 15 2015 23:49 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2015 23:47 geript wrote:
On September 15 2015 20:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 15 2015 20:53 Rels wrote:
On September 15 2015 19:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 15 2015 19:28 Tictock wrote:
Well I'm also waiting on HtS to make an entrance, but I have to head to work soon.

I'm not sold on his read, but I'll admit Rels has done good open post cases before. TS might be someone to keep an eye on.

I'm not sure I like BM.

This was an odd explanation to throwing out a townread on rayn.
On September 15 2015 10:29 Bill Murray wrote:
well you're the first person in any game if we're both in the game that im going to try to get a read on because you usually have something important going on


I am also kinda waffling on what does that make BM.
I am pretty sure that is alignment indicatice i am just not sure into which way yet.

?? How can this be town indicative ?

geript was BM there when we were talking in TS about our strengths in games?

I don't recall

@rayn does it change your read of BM ?

It's prob fluff honestly I had used a TS reason someone was mafia and I was wrong(See Apperture 4).
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#360
On September 15 2015 23:55 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2015 23:53 LightningStrike wrote:
On September 15 2015 23:47 Rels wrote:
On September 15 2015 23:44 LightningStrike wrote:
On September 15 2015 23:42 Rels wrote:
On September 15 2015 23:40 LightningStrike wrote:
3. You think I capable of some of my posts as scum this game?

What posts are you talking about

I asking HTS a question since she knows me well enough. I going to reread the thread more carefully now.

I'm not asking why you said that.
You said: "I wouldn't make some of my posts if I was scum".
So I ask: what posts are you talking about ?

I was asking her if I am capable posting some of the posts as mafia. I meant to add if so which posts and I can explain my thought my process on the post.

what posts are you FUCKING talking about

Any posts..................
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#361
On September 15 2015 23:55 Rels wrote:
are you trolling me

I not trolling deal with it.
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#362
Okay I'm done for now I not going to talk to brickwalls until I get home from College.
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#370
Okay I just reread he OP and I gotta say I will agree wth rayn his position just relized that unless we lynch the role that keeps giving the role of the person who gets targeted by the mafia kp the martyr is a useless role. I guess I was a just been a idiot all along.................... I seriously wont to talk to anyone till after I get home from college after this post.
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#389
Okay I changed my mind I will post a few things here and there what you want to talk about Rayn?
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#390
Welp my 2nd class for the day got canceled but I still have to stymy college until I get picked up by my Dad or Mom so if you guys want to talk to me abut anything until I get picked up feel free to!
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#392
On September 16 2015 02:51 LightningStrike wrote:
Welp my 2nd class for the day got canceled but I still have to stay at my college until I get picked up by my Dad or Mom so if you guys want to talk to me abut anything until I get picked up feel free to!

EDWOP: Grammar fixed I using a laptop which got really bad sensitivity T_T
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#393
On September 16 2015 02:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:
What are your thoughts on HtS and geript?

HTS I think she is more likely town she came up with her own original idea about Geript which I kinda agree with given my history with Geript for his weird wording on his posts. Geript is a scumlean for now some of wording is weird esp his post about sheeping town leaders all the time as town is actually false as I actually did my own thing in Carol of the Bells trying to push Tubesock there with GlowingBear didn't want to lynch Tubesock there.
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#395
On September 16 2015 03:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Was glowingbear a town leader in that game?
rofl

Yes he was. True story you should read Carol of the Bell if you need proof lol(It was my 3rd game on TL Mafia and my very first win too lol).
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#396
Oh to add on to that HF was a townleader for Day 1 and 2 but then more people started to thinkHF was scum then we lynched him like Day 5 lol
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#397
On September 16 2015 03:05 LightningStrike wrote:
Oh to add on to that HF was a townleader for Day 1 and 2 but then more people started to think HF was scum then we lynched him like Day 5 lol

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#400
On September 16 2015 03:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So geript is your scumread?
Does it affect you at all i am telling you there is literally no way he is mafia in this game?

Also at the time you made thw post you got called out for, did you seriously think i am mafia for pushing a retarded role claim? Like i know you value my opinion, and i am not stupid. Did it not come to your mind to think a bit more about why i say what i do? I find this really hard to believe LS. Thats why i think you are mafia atm.

Geript is my scumread. No it wont change unless he start doing some townie things. At the time I didn't read the OP very well so ofc I thought your role claim thing was stupid. Well I turned to be sounding like a idiot for not reading the OP very well >.> It now makes much more sense after rereading the OP for the Martyr claim plan you had setup.
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#401
On September 16 2015 03:15 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2015 03:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So geript is your scumread?
Does it affect you at all i am telling you there is literally no way he is mafia in this game?

Also at the time you made thw post you got called out for, did you seriously think i am mafia for pushing a retarded role claim? Like i know you value my opinion, and i am not stupid. Did it not come to your mind to think a bit more about why i say what i do? I find this really hard to believe LS. Thats why i think you are mafia atm.

Geript is my scumread. No it wont change unless he start doing some townie things. At the time I didn't read the OP very well so ofc I thought your role claim thing was stupid. Well I turned to be sounding like a idiot for not reading the OP very well >.> It now makes much more sense after rereading the OP for the Martyr claim plan you had setup.

To add on about Geript he needs to stop role playing and actually be more serious but his word choice for some of his posts were really odd considering my history with him.
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#403
On September 16 2015 03:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
That's not what i mean.
I mean why did it not occur to you "why is rayn saying this if he is town/mafia"? And why did you notthink about that before calling me mafia? Especially when i had JUST explained why i pushed for the claim...

I was a total jackass at the time I'm sorry T_T (Gives rayn a hug since heeds some love)
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#409
On September 16 2015 03:33 Bill Murray wrote:
you know vivax and i disagree hard when his 3 town reads are my 3 scum reads thusfar

I feel TT and Rels have been buddying and I had a scumread on TT

Rels list is something I do as scum and I feel it tries to buy towncred

He then goes into Maf wouldnt mess with grail D1 into D1 trying to give grail to TT

TT was my original gut i felt like hey this guy is relatively new I dont know if he knows how to play scum but this is what I would imagine his words would read like if he did. I based my interactions off of that thusfar.

I could consolidate on LS he might just be nervous and have a decent role but I could easily see him as scum acting the way he does

Bill we had played together in Witchcraft when we were both scum together and you think I'm scum here? Try again buddy.
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September 15 2015 18:42 GMT
#416
On September 16 2015 03:40 Bill Murray wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2015 21:25 Half the Sky wrote:
Middle of page 10 - going to agree with the LS/Shining scumreads since they are the only things they've posted.

I know LS has trouble playing scum when he is scum so this could easily follow that premise.

Dandel's posting is less indicative, he could really not care for all I know.

yeah even with me on skype with him telling him what to do he got lynched D1 when i was scum with him

I had little motivation when I saw I rolled scum there because I was going to Houston with my family and wasn't going to have much time to play during that weekend. Plus WBG is a good player too on using meta.
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#423
On September 16 2015 03:44 Bill Murray wrote:
LS why are you acting like I'm pushing you when I'm not?

Oh I was just telling them what was going on witchcraft and plus I am kinda on edge because rayn still thinks I'm scum and I know how he just tunnels for days.
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#428
On September 16 2015 03:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
LightningStrike do you have any other scumreads than geript?

Damdred he only made like 2-3 posts and 1 is him saying I could be mafia without any explanation at all which is so unlike him at all when he's town. Rels could be town but Ticktock null I need to reread his filter when I get home. Rayn I think your town I was just being a jackass earlier regarding you I'm sorry what can I do to make up for it?
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#430
Okay guys pretty soon my dad will be here to pick me up so if I disappear for a while then just wait till I get home which is only 30 mins from my college.
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#437
I back at home and saw Bill posted more. I actually liking Bill this game
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#438
Holy shit that's a long post shining o.o I didn't see you post that when I posted my last post o.o
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#440
On September 16 2015 04:45 The Shining wrote:
It was a minute before your post and I had a lot of catching up to do lol

Ya when I pressed post I didn't see your post till I scrolled up lol.
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#446
On September 16 2015 04:55 The Shining wrote:
LS while we're here, can you help me understand your Geript scumlean? As far as I can tell, it's because he misrepresented you as "always following town leader" and having a specific meta read on you, which he worded strangely.

How sure are you of that scumread and do you have any other suspicions? I ask becuz of this post:

Show nested quote +
On September 16 2015 03:17 LightningStrike wrote:
On September 16 2015 03:15 LightningStrike wrote:
On September 16 2015 03:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So geript is your scumread?
Does it affect you at all i am telling you there is literally no way he is mafia in this game?

Also at the time you made thw post you got called out for, did you seriously think i am mafia for pushing a retarded role claim? Like i know you value my opinion, and i am not stupid. Did it not come to your mind to think a bit more about why i say what i do? I find this really hard to believe LS. Thats why i think you are mafia atm.

Geript is my scumread. No it wont change unless he start doing some townie things. At the time I didn't read the OP very well so ofc I thought your role claim thing was stupid. Well I turned to be sounding like a idiot for not reading the OP very well >.> It now makes much more sense after rereading the OP for the Martyr claim plan you had setup.

To add on about Geript he needs to stop role playing and actually be more serious but his word choice for some of his posts were really odd considering my history with him.


It seems like you want me to stop role playing and be more serious but if you think he's scum, would it matter that much how seriously he played?

He was misrepresenting me a little bit there plus the wording on this post here:
On September 15 2015 10:46 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2015 07:20 LightningStrike wrote:
So rayn since you want the martyr to claim do you see any benefit of them not claiming at all?

When he's town he'll still follow the leader, but he'll generally over talk about a random reason he's thought against it. A less than LS question.


and if he's town I need him to stop role playing so I could have a more accurate read on him.
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#447
Okay I just read Danel's filter and saw him claim Miller and I checked the op and there are no Miller's in the OP idk if he's trolling or mafia or both. Thoughts guys?
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#450
On September 16 2015 05:02 The Shining wrote:
Dandel, pretend I'm dumb(which I am). So it IS just an OMGUS is what I got from the post. Correct me if I'm wrong please.

Hi Bill. I feel like we've played together before but have never actually spoken. How are you today? XD Do you, Dandel or LS feel like commenting or asking anything about my catch up post?

LS, ok so misrepresentation and wording but by saying "if he's town", then I'm right in assuming you're not 100% sure he's scum? Can you answer my other question about who else you're suspicious about?

Damdred for not really doing much and he didn't explained his vote on me and left.
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#451
On September 16 2015 05:04 LightningStrike wrote:
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On September 16 2015 05:02 The Shining wrote:
Dandel, pretend I'm dumb(which I am). So it IS just an OMGUS is what I got from the post. Correct me if I'm wrong please.

Hi Bill. I feel like we've played together before but have never actually spoken. How are you today? XD Do you, Dandel or LS feel like commenting or asking anything about my catch up post?

LS, ok so misrepresentation and wording but by saying "if he's town", then I'm right in assuming you're not 100% sure he's scum? Can you answer my other question about who else you're suspicious about?

Damdred for not really doing much and he didn't explained his vote on me and left.

Here a bigger I did regarding Damdred:
On September 16 2015 03:50 LightningStrike wrote:
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On September 16 2015 03:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
LightningStrike do you have any other scumreads than geript?

Damdred he only made like 2-3 posts and 1 is him saying I could be mafia without any explanation at all which is so unlike him at all when he's town. Rels could be town but Ticktock null I need to reread his filter when I get home. Rayn I think your town I was just being a jackass earlier regarding you I'm sorry what can I do to make up for it?

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LightningStrike
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September 15 2015 20:11 GMT
#453
On September 16 2015 05:08 The Shining wrote:
Yeah I did agree with that and pretty much echoed it in my read of him, along with finding it strange that he'd claim he liked to think of himself as a strong town player and ask for the Grail but do nothing to prove it afterwards.

He is a good player by reputation but he playing really lackluster so far
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14276 Posts
September 15 2015 21:52 GMT
#481
On September 16 2015 06:46 Fecalfeast wrote:
ok rayn i made it
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On September 15 2015 07:50 Damdred wrote:
I'd actually like the grail. While I like to think I'm a good town player for whatever reason I have a history of living late which is annoying but it is what it is.

So vote grail for me.


Damdred came in and made this big claim that he's a strong town player who lives really long and should get the grail. He then proceeds to make a weak post saying he's ok with a deadline lynch on ls for no real reason and fricks the heck off.

My impression of damdred this game is that he wanted to enter the game as a strong player, got overshadowed by rayn and wasn't up to trying any harder.

Maybe he'll come back and kick my ass but that doesn't sound like town damdy wamdy to me

^Agreed with you there.
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14276 Posts
September 15 2015 23:47 GMT
#500
On September 16 2015 08:08 Half the Sky wrote:
Shining looks better based on his re-entry and LS's responses to me (particularly the reads) also make him look a little better.

There is one thing I noticed in his filter though. LS could you answer this?

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On September 16 2015 03:50 LightningStrike wrote:
On September 16 2015 03:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
LightningStrike do you have any other scumreads than geript?

Damdred he only made like 2-3 posts and 1 is him saying I could be mafia without any explanation at all which is so unlike him at all when he's town. Rels could be town but Ticktock null I need to reread his filter when I get home. Rayn I think your town I was just being a jackass earlier regarding you I'm sorry what can I do to make up for it?


"Rels could be town"

I know I told you to ignore Rels before but given how Rels is nearly universally townread, given your wording what is giving you pause about Rels?

Because of bias from my side more than him because how I was early about some of my stuff that is all. I know it doesn't sound much but that what it is really is for why I only got a could be town read on him.
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September 16 2015 11:48 GMT
#596
On September 16 2015 16:44 Rels wrote:
OK LS. I will try to explain what I think so we can understand each other this time. Everybody seems to have drop the scumread on you, and I understand. Your posts really show anger at being scumread, then free of mind where you're not anymore.
Please, if you're town, read carefully what others are saying, 'cause it's super frustrating to not be understood. I'll ask you two questions that need elaboration to answer, so take the time to do this right.

1. You said to HTS "some of the posts" you did this game were posts you would never make as scum. Can you show me a few example and explain to me why you wouldn't post that as scum ?

2. Your geript scumread is interesting, 'cause of the following: my reason for townreading geript was that I thought you were scum, and I didn't think geript would bus this early in the game. Now obviously if you're town, this push on you isn't alignment indicative anymore.
What you are saying is that geript lied to explain his vote on you. You're saying this is a lie:
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On September 15 2015 10:46 geript wrote:
On September 15 2015 07:20 LightningStrike wrote:
So rayn since you want the martyr to claim do you see any benefit of them not claiming at all?

When he's town he'll still follow the leader, but he'll generally over talk about a random reason he's thought against it. A less than LS question.

Can you prove this is a lie ? For example, you talked about a game where you didn't do this. Was geript in this game or obsing this game ?

1. I was mainly asking HTS if she thinks I can any of the posts as scum instead of town since me and her actually been playing together since November of last year so she got lots of experience with playing with me.

2. Geript wasn't in that game nor obsing that game(Carol of the Bells Mafia) but in that game I actually went away from following the town leader at the time GlowingBear and pushed for my own lynch of Tubesock because I tohught Tubesock scum slipped about the amount of scum in the setup lol.
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September 16 2015 12:06 GMT
#606
On September 16 2015 20:51 Rels wrote:
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On September 16 2015 20:48 LightningStrike wrote:
On September 16 2015 16:44 Rels wrote:
OK LS. I will try to explain what I think so we can understand each other this time. Everybody seems to have drop the scumread on you, and I understand. Your posts really show anger at being scumread, then free of mind where you're not anymore.
Please, if you're town, read carefully what others are saying, 'cause it's super frustrating to not be understood. I'll ask you two questions that need elaboration to answer, so take the time to do this right.

1. You said to HTS "some of the posts" you did this game were posts you would never make as scum. Can you show me a few example and explain to me why you wouldn't post that as scum ?

2. Your geript scumread is interesting, 'cause of the following: my reason for townreading geript was that I thought you were scum, and I didn't think geript would bus this early in the game. Now obviously if you're town, this push on you isn't alignment indicative anymore.
What you are saying is that geript lied to explain his vote on you. You're saying this is a lie:
On September 15 2015 10:46 geript wrote:
On September 15 2015 07:20 LightningStrike wrote:
So rayn since you want the martyr to claim do you see any benefit of them not claiming at all?

When he's town he'll still follow the leader, but he'll generally over talk about a random reason he's thought against it. A less than LS question.

Can you prove this is a lie ? For example, you talked about a game where you didn't do this. Was geript in this game or obsing this game ?

1. I was mainly asking HTS if she thinks I can any of the posts as scum instead of town since me and her actually been playing together since November of last year so she got lots of experience with playing with me.

2. Geript wasn't in that game nor obsing that game(Carol of the Bells Mafia) but in that game I actually went away from following the town leader at the time GlowingBear and pushed for my own lynch of Tubesock because I tohught Tubesock scum slipped about the amount of scum in the setup lol.

OK. Why do you think geript is scum faking a meta read on you, instead of town using false meta by mistake ?
I think he may be scum BTW so I'm not attacking you, I just want to know.

A. He prob actually didn't look to much into Carol but if he did he would of saw I actually pushing my own thoughts there until after the Tubesock lynch .
B. I forgot I actually did try to lead town in MYLO in Office Mini where it was a pm game and I was the unCCed Cop and convinced Snickers that sicklucker had to be the last scum when he was questioning Oatsmaster(Town) being the last scum even though he disagreed about letting Oatsmaster win but at the end of the Day Snickers followed me but it was a in irc log at post game that you would see me convince Snickers and Geript actually was in that game but got Modkilled due to behavior lol. Here was the quote of the irc log where I convinced Snickers that sicklucker was the last scum but he had to convert it to normal format here:
On March 05 2015 08:08 Snickers wrote:
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[17:13] == Snickers_ [webchat@dynamic-acs-24-101-59-29.zoominternet.net] has joined #wtf
[17:14] <Sicklucker> le sign wth
[17:14] <Sicklucker> start by telling me why you think im mafia or oats is town
[17:14] <Snickers_> hello godfather
[17:14] <Snickers_> why did you vote kurumi day two
[17:15] <Sicklucker> He didnt do anything I followed my town reads and it was a landslide vote if I remember so my vote didnt really matter
[17:16] <Snickers_> you were saying kurumi was town tho,
[17:16] <Sicklucker> Day 1
[17:16] <Sicklucker> things change
[17:16] <Snickers_> and day two
[17:16] <Snickers_> you were saying it
[17:16] <Sicklucker> He was the day 3 lynch right?
[17:17] <Snickers_> noi day two
[17:17] <Snickers_> eden kurmi lc ve
[17:17] <Sicklucker> Like why are you doing this an hour before. If I knew you had a close decision I would have shit to say
[17:18] <Snickers_> hmm
[17:18] <Snickers_> why is oats mafia?
[17:18] <Sicklucker> Because hes lurking he wont interact with me
[17:18] <Sicklucker> he dodged me yesterday
[17:18] <Sicklucker> He also like always knows the flips
[17:19] <Sicklucker> his votes barely end up on towns
[17:19] <Sicklucker> hes not that good of a town player hes trying to keep his hands clean
[17:20] <Snickers_> his day one vote ended up on you
[17:20] <Snickers_> day two was lc
[17:20] <Sicklucker> What page wasthe kurimi lynch thing ill reread and remember my thoughts
[17:20] <Snickers_> day three he didnt vote
[17:20] <Snickers_> day four he ended on ve
[17:20] <Sicklucker> Im talking how he never votes you
[17:20] <Sicklucker> hes been setting this final 3 up
[17:21] <Sicklucker> he scum reads me all game. never acualy pushes me
[17:21] <Sicklucker> town reads you all game
[17:21] <Snickers_> hmm
[17:21] <Sicklucker> now were the final 3? how convienient
[17:21] <Snickers_> idk rayn died after pushing you
[17:21] <Sicklucker> Rayns a good player and would of died regardless he also pushed eden and lc
[17:22] <Snickers_> also you were reading me as town day one and ve as scum then you flipped it day two
[17:22] <Snickers_> feels like you were setting up a lynch
[17:22] <Sicklucker> You remember why I flipped it?
[17:22] <Sicklucker> because I do
[17:22] <Snickers_> yea
[17:22] <Snickers_> why?
[17:23] <Sicklucker> you called me out for taking my vote on ve
[17:23] <Sicklucker> you voted the person you called the medic instead of scum eden?
[17:23] <Sicklucker> it was really weird
[17:23] == LightningStrike [webchat@pool-108-19-48-26.dllstx.fios.verizon.net] has joined #wtf
[17:23] <Snickers_> why did
[17:23] <Snickers_> ve become town
[17:23] <Sicklucker> im kind of having second thoughts tbh maybe you are the mafia but nothing I can do
[17:23] <Snickers_> when he was scum at first
[17:24] <LightningStrike> o.o
[17:24] <Sicklucker> ve never became town til llike day 3 for me?
[17:24] <Snickers_> why
[17:24] <Sicklucker> it was because we talked on voice chat for staters
[17:24] <Snickers_> ok keep going
[17:24] <Sicklucker> then as the game went on we had alot of the same thoughts
[17:24] <LightningStrike> I talked with VE but I shouldn't of yoloed him
[17:24] <Snickers_> what were some of the same thoughts
[17:25] <Sicklucker> like ve also saved me from getting lynched thats probably something not in the forum
[17:25] <Sicklucker> Like some of them were disproven but we had the same thoughts thats a good sign like things on you
[17:25] <Sicklucker> and oats having too muc hinfo
[17:25] <Sicklucker> deadlines in 30 mins right?
[17:25] <Snickers_> yea
[17:26] <Snickers_> it sits weird with me tho
[17:26] <Sicklucker> hils
[17:26] <Snickers_> that you were saying kurumi was town
[17:26] <LightningStrike> So who we lynching?
[17:26] <Snickers_> but then you vote kurumi without saying anything and then after the fact
[17:26] <Sicklucker> Well that happened 3 weeks ago but
[17:26] <Snickers_> idk
[17:26] <Snickers_> ls
[17:26] <Sicklucker> I gave him a weak early town read for making those threads
[17:26] <Snickers_> who do you think it is
[17:27] <Sicklucker> but I later found out he would do it as either alignment
[17:27] <Sicklucker> oh yes thats th ereason I turned on him
[17:27] <LightningStrike> By PoE I got Snickers and Oats
[17:27] <Sicklucker> Ls what do you think?
[17:27] <Snickers_> so here is where I stand
[17:27] <Snickers_> I have oats
[17:27] <Sicklucker> Well we cant vote snickers because oats is gone
[17:27] <Sicklucker> so its between me and oats ls
[17:27] <Snickers_> seems to be trying to figure out the game through
[17:28] <Sicklucker> because snickers wont vote himself obv;p
[17:28] <Snickers_> yea if I am mafia I already won this game haha
[17:28] <Sicklucker> agreed
[17:28] <Sicklucker> no point talking about it
[17:28] <Snickers_> ls here is where I am
[17:28] <Snickers_> I have oats
[17:28] <Snickers_> the lazy player who seems to have good questions
[17:28] <Snickers_> super lazy tho
[17:28] <Snickers_> then I have sicklucker
[17:28] <Snickers_> a lot of shit seems to fall in place for him
[17:29] <Snickers_> rayn thought he was scum then rayn dies
[17:29] <Snickers_> he voted kurumi without saying anything
[17:29] <LightningStrike> tbh rayn can read sicklucker like a book
[17:29] <Snickers_> both rayn and koshi
[17:29] <Snickers_> said sicklucker
[17:29] <Snickers_> scum
[17:29] <Snickers_> oats town
[17:30] <Sicklucker> Is this happening again
[17:30] <Sicklucker> im gonna lose another final 3 for town
[17:30] <LightningStrike> check slythterin, Campus for past games with Rayn and Sicklucker together
[17:30] <Sicklucker> because no one cares that scum is obv keeping me around
[17:30] <LightningStrike> Rayn called Sicklucker town in Campus Mafia
[17:30] <Sicklucker> ls in my first game as mafia ms paint
[17:30] <Sicklucker> I pocketed rayn
[17:30] <Sicklucker> hes not always right
[17:30] <Sicklucker> look it up
[17:31] <Snickers_> was he town in campus mafia?
[17:31] <LightningStrike> he can read you better than anyone else that is dead
[17:31] <Sicklucker> koshi is always wrong about me
[17:31] <LightningStrike> yes Snickers
[17:31] <Sicklucker> koshi also thought I was town in my last mafia win
[17:31] <Sicklucker> i beat them both as mafia before so there paranoid
[17:31] <LightningStrike> Both Rayn and Sicklucker were town in Campus
[17:31] <LightningStrike> keep in mind Rayn replaced someone in that game and so did sicklucker
[17:31] <Sicklucker> yes but that was a easy read
[17:31] <LightningStrike> although rayn replaced much later
[17:32] <Sicklucker> and he only called me town based on my 40 page filter
[17:32] <Snickers_> ls
[17:32] <Snickers_> what do you get out of the votes day one
[17:32] <Snickers_> mafia got lynched with four votes
[17:32] <Snickers_> sicklucker had two votes on him
[17:32] <Snickers_> I had two votes on me
[17:32] <Sicklucker> Snickers are you slow rolling me here?
[17:32] <LightningStrike> let me check
[17:32] <Snickers_> ls
[17:32] <Sicklucker> like if your mafia you dont have to talk
[17:32] <Sicklucker> you already won
[17:32] <Snickers_> I can post in the thread
[17:32] <Snickers_> the final results
[17:32] <Snickers_> but the names arnt in chronological order
[17:33] <Sicklucker> I dont get how you gave me the hammer and are flipping. I sapose that makes you confirmed town tho
[17:33] <Sicklucker> because no reason to slowrole me here
[17:34] <LightningStrike> so your only scum is Oats
[17:34] <LightningStrike> but yet me and the rest reading Oats town
[17:34] <Sicklucker> yes now that I think of it
[17:34] <Sicklucker> snickers is neve rmafia unless hes a huge d bag
[17:34] <Snickers_> haha
[17:34] <LightningStrike> I hammering you sicklucker I'm sorry if you are town
[17:34] <Sicklucker> your not hammering me
[17:34] <Sicklucker> your vote doesint matter
[17:34] <Snickers_> haha
[17:35] <Sicklucker> are you surious
[17:35] <Snickers_> that is true
[17:35] <Sicklucker> well his vote does matter
[17:35] <Sicklucker> Ls let snickers have th ehammer
[17:35] <Sicklucker> dont vote let him decide
[17:35] <Sicklucker> your just gonna sheep the confirmed town anyway
[17:35] <Sicklucker> lets be real
[17:36] <Sicklucker> and snickers is confirmed no
[17:36] <LightningStrike> honestly my poe did change because I forgot I did metaread Snickers town
[17:36] <Sicklucker> Ls what changed since yesterday omg?
[17:36] <Sicklucker> you guys are insane oats is still mafia
[17:36] <LightningStrike> I been townreading Oats this entire game
[17:36] <Sicklucker> literraly nothings changed he didnt even try today he knows he loss
[17:36] <Sicklucker> you guys are throwing for no reason
[17:36] <LightningStrike> and he was like this in NYE Party
[17:37] <LightningStrike> and got lynched for it
[17:37] <Sicklucker> YOU VOTED HIM YESTERDAY?
[17:37] <Sicklucker> WTF
[17:37] <LightningStrike> and same in Void
[17:37] <LightningStrike> I didn't vote Oats?
[17:37] <Sicklucker> yes you did
[17:37] <Sicklucker> LightningStrike United States. March 01 2015 21:55. Posts 4696 Gift TL+ PM Profile Report Quote # filter ##Unvote Vote: Oatsmaster
[17:37] <Snickers_> So i thoguht sl was kinda sitting back yesterday
[17:37] <Sicklucker> .....
[17:37] <Snickers_> he meant where his vote ended up
[17:37] <Sicklucker> Because you said you were killing my scum read no matter what
[17:37] <Sicklucker> no shit I sat back snickers
[17:38] <Sicklucker> im also in two other games
[17:38] <Sicklucker> I noticed your in one too
[17:38] <Snickers_> yea haha
[17:38] <Sicklucker> and you didnt aproach me either
[17:38] <LightningStrike> I'm coaching in 1 game and playing in another also
[17:38] <Sicklucker> UNTILL 30 MINS BEFORE VOTE
[17:38] <LightningStrike> remember I am the Cop
[17:38] <Sicklucker> is your student still alive in that game?
[17:38] <Snickers_> it was actually three hours
[17:39] <LightningStrike> I wont say anything on their status
[17:39] <Snickers_> haha
[17:39] <Snickers_> I feel like shit if sl it town
[17:39] <Sicklucker> you fuckig should
[17:40] <Sicklucker> Im gonna berate you so hard if you don tcome to your senses
[17:40] <Snickers_> sicklucker rank three people that you pushed in this game
[17:41] <Sicklucker> Like sign ls remember when I went on voice chat
[17:41] <Sicklucker> ve,you,eden
[17:41] <Sicklucker> oats obv
[17:41] <Sicklucker> Rank?
[17:41] <Snickers_> yea
[17:41] <Snickers_> like mine would be
[17:42] <Snickers_> 1.ve 2. geript etc
[17:42] <Sicklucker> Well #1 oats because hes the last mafia and im winning us the game. #2eden because he was mafia WHO BY THE WAY WANTED TO KILL ME
[17:42] <Sicklucker> like acualy lets go back to day one heres why im town
[17:42] <Sicklucker> Like I was edens kill target all day look it up
[17:43] <Sicklucker> like let me get some quotes I think this is the best way I can save the game
[17:43] <Snickers_> no just say why
[17:43] <Sicklucker> Ray also had some good posts. His big post recently about SL was pretty baller. I haven't got the scattershot townie vibes I normally get from SL. Where you at?
[17:44] <Sicklucker> like here hes pinging me out 4 hours into the game who does that to there mafia partner? you know who he doesint mention in his filter? oats
[17:44] <Snickers_> yea and eden were talking back and forth very early
[17:44] <Sicklucker> Go look at edens filter and tell me you think hes my partner with a straight face
[17:45] <Sicklucker> thats how we save th egame in 15 minutes
[17:45] <Sicklucker> is vote in 15 minutes?
[17:45] <Snickers_> yea
[17:46] <Sicklucker> That reminds me, where is sicklucker? He's not really doing much of anything this game, which would be surprising if he's town.
[17:46] <Snickers_> eden pinged oats rly early
[17:46] <Sicklucker> vote snickerdoodle
[17:46] <Sicklucker> ya i just saw that too
[17:46] <Sicklucker> but he neve rfollows up
[17:47] <Sicklucker> Eagerly awaiting Oats's explanation for why four people saw the QT though (if that's what happened).
[17:47] <Sicklucker> thats barely a ping tbh
[17:47] <Sicklucker> LS what are your thoughts on Snickers and sicklucker right now? (And I guess geript and Kurumi if you have something to say about them) like look who hes going after
[17:48] <Sicklucker> the two towns that mafia decided are weak enough players to trick in final 3
[17:48] <Sicklucker> l is pretty clearly doing yesterday's disruption work to keep the town circle from solidifying b/c once it's entrenched it's too hard to stop
[17:48] <Sicklucker> why don't you want to lynch sicklucker? if he's paying attention but clearly not active in the thread or side chats then he's probably mafia. sicklucker is much more active than this as town
[17:49] <Sicklucker> i still think you should lynch sicklucker. i'm not sure what it is about his list post that changed your mind, because to me it proved he's been following things but not that he's trying to solve the game (as evidenced by his lack of meaningful posts in the thread or oot communication), which i'd expect from mafia sicklucker. town sicklucker is all over the thread, digging into all kinds of leads, trying to turn up whatever he can. the le
[17:49] <Sicklucker> Like its literally half his posts.
[17:49] <Snickers_> sicklucker
[17:49] <Snickers_> why is ls the cop
[17:50] <Snickers_> how did you know it before
[17:50] <Sicklucker> and he was not in a spot where he needed to bus me. Infact everyone was town reading me untill I helped convince them eden is town
[17:50] <Snickers_> geript outted him
[17:50] <Sicklucker> when koshi voted him
[17:50] <Sicklucker> it wa ssuper obvious
[17:50] <Snickers_> sicklucker
[17:50] <Snickers_> how did you know ls was the cop before he outted
[17:50] <Sicklucker> also when koshi said someone pmed him
[17:50] <Sicklucker> I went int voice chat with koshi 10 minutes later and ls was there
[17:51] <Sicklucker> i just said why
[17:51] <Sicklucker> koshi made it super obvious
[17:51] <Sicklucker> now that we know I knew he was the cop why didnt I nk him?
[17:52] <Snickers_> cause youre the godfather
[17:52] <Snickers_> and rayn was attacking you
[17:52] <Snickers_> and lc wasnt doing shit like gobble
[17:52] <Snickers_> was in that other game
[17:52] <Sicklucker> what does that have to do with anything
[17:52] <Sicklucker> I dont understand you
[17:52] <Snickers_> well two minutes till lynch
[17:52] <Sicklucker> READ EDENS FILTER
[17:52] <Sicklucker> 8 MINUTES
[17:52] <Sicklucker> READ IT
[17:53] <Snickers_> ls what are you thinking
[17:53] <Sicklucker> Ls remember when koshi voted you randomly and gave no reason?
[17:53] <Sicklucker> thats when I knew you were cop
[17:53] <LightningStrike> I knew why he did it lol
[17:54] <Snickers_> but u dont want to kill the cop
[17:54] <Snickers_> if lc is ur partner
[17:54] <Snickers_> haha
[17:54] <LightningStrike> but lc was a easy bus snickers
[17:54] <Snickers_> sicklucker
[17:54] <Snickers_> we only have on minute
[17:54] <Sicklucker> Lc literraly does not mtter
[17:54] <Sicklucker> we have 6 minutes but if your right SWITCH
[17:55] <Sicklucker> Oats tried so hard this game for oats
[17:55] <Sicklucker> he went agro
[17:55] <Sicklucker> thats not oats town game. but hes not being agro anymore
[17:56] <Sicklucker> 4minutes
[17:56] <Sicklucker> according,tothread
[17:56] <Snickers_> ls any last thoughts?
[17:56] <Sicklucker> He just voted me
[17:56] <Sicklucker> well fuck you guys you deserve the losss
[17:56] <Sicklucker> afk
[17:57] <Snickers_> shit
[17:57] <Snickers_> ls I AM SO CONFUSED
[17:57] <Snickers_> has oats
[17:57] <Snickers_> been playing his town game?
[17:57] <LightningStrike> yes
[17:57] <Snickers_> sigh
[17:57] <Snickers_> I think its ls
[17:57] <Snickers_> its sl
[17:57] <Snickers_> but heres the thing
[17:57] <Snickers_> Id rather fuck over oats than sl
[17:58] <LightningStrike> play to win snickers
[17:58] <Snickers_> well now
[17:58] <Snickers_> you hold the vote
[17:58] <Snickers_> lol
[17:58] <Snickers_> fuck
[17:58] <LightningStrike> I voting Sicklucker
[17:58] <Snickers_> whats bothering me
[17:58] <Snickers_> is
[17:58] <Snickers_> rayn died instead of cop
[17:58] <Snickers_> hmm
[17:58] <Snickers_> i think we are right tho
[17:58] <LightningStrike> because they had a rolecop so I could of fakeclaimed
[17:59] <LightningStrike> but lc was the rolecop and lynched
[17:59] <LightningStrike> so I'm the Cop
[17:59] <Snickers_> idk fuck man
[17:59] <Snickers_> haha
[17:59] <Sicklucker> your not changing ls mind
[17:59] <Sicklucker> hes too dense
[17:59] <Snickers_> fuck oats
[17:59] <Snickers_> either way
[17:59] <Sicklucker> gg wp oats
[18:00] <Sicklucker> if you wanted to vote oats you shoul dhave did it 50 minutes ago so you held the hammer and can change at deadline
[18:00] <Sicklucker> now you dont have th etiebreaker
[18:00] <Snickers_> idk I wanted to pressure you haha
[18:01] <Snickers_> yo guys
[18:01] <Snickers_> I am the godfather
[18:01] <Sicklucker> ...
[18:01] <Sicklucker> slowroll
[18:01] <Sicklucker> of the century
[18:01] <Snickers_> hmm
[18:01] <Snickers_> i think sicklucker is town
[18:01] <Snickers_> haha
[18:01] <Sicklucker> NOSHIT
[18:01] <Snickers_> lol
[18:02] <Snickers_> i am glad palmar is around
[18:02] <Sicklucker> this is my first time getting mislynched in 15
[18:02] <Sicklucker> games sorry if im really pissed
[18:03] <LightningStrike> sorry sicklucker if you are town
[18:03] <Snickers_> idk
[18:04] <Snickers_> I think this game has a lot of statistics in it
[18:04] <Snickers_> even if you played really well there is still a decent chance of losing
[18:04] <Snickers_> a lot of shit seemed to add up agaisnt you sl
[18:04] <Snickers_> and oats shit that added up agaisnt him wasnt much
[18:07] <Sicklucker> Ya you guys ruined m yday
[18:07] <Sicklucker> I thought I was gonna get nominated for best mafia performance

Funniest thing I remember lol.
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#638
I honestly just want to lynch Damdred for the reasons why I scumreading him. Also I think Rayn should be the Grail holder since he is almost certainly town. I prob wont be around EoD because of class ends at Eo so Damdrd is my vote for today's lynch.
##Deadline Vote: Damdred
##Holy Grail Vote: Raynpelikoneet
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#640
On September 17 2015 01:46 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2015 01:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 17 2015 01:39 Rels wrote:
On September 17 2015 01:11 geript wrote:
On September 16 2015 23:40 Rels wrote:
On September 15 2015 23:56 geript wrote:
I'm kinda torn on HtS fwiw. No clue why. It's definitely not related to her scumlean on me though.


On September 16 2015 23:31 geript wrote:
In ACLS drving. Drug screen. I'm busy deal w/ it. Also I'm kinda down to lynch fido. Idk why.

Beginning to be tired of these reads without explanation.
Next time, please don't hit post until what you wrote is a defense against LS saying you're using fabricated meta.

I'm not using fabricated meta. Wtf? What kind of response do you even expect there? Like that's a really scummy question bc there's literally nothing worthwhile coming out of it. As for being tired of random reads. Deal w/ it. I'm playing as much as I can while focusing on being able to pay bills, eat, keep my license, etc. you know shit that's actually important. So politely file your complaints in the trash can where they belong.

Oh and I'm in a mother game and coaching so deal

Wtf
You said LS had an history of sheeping town leaders
LS proves with quotes from two other game, one that you were part of, that that is not true
Stop dodging the fucking subject and explain why you stated an incorrect meta

I am sorry but glowingbear is not a town leader regardless of what he has done in any game.
Town leaders are strong players, glowingbear is not.

OK so you're saying that ls defense isn't really true ?
I want Hts to comment on that too since she apparently knows ls very well

I don't sheep town leaders all the time but for the most part I do but in a couple cases I didn't sheep town leaders(I assuming what Geript means all the time).
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#662
I here and got out of class early and I been trying to answer people's concerns straight up to the best of my ability rayn. Plus I take you over Vivax because I can't remember much of Vivax other than he's the Martyr because no one cced him. We don't want him to have it because if he dies when he got it than we lose it for the rest of the game I think if I read the op correctly.
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#664
On September 17 2015 05:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2015 05:23 LightningStrike wrote:
I here and got out of class early and I been trying to answer people's concerns straight up to the best of my ability rayn. Plus I take you over Vivax because I can't remember much of Vivax other than he's the Martyr because no one cced him. We don't want him to have it because if he dies when he got it than we lose it for the rest of the game I think if I read the op correctly.

okay. if you are sure i am town and you are right why would i not die?

Angel save assuming Vivax dies from the soup. Also I just checked the op about the timing of the lynch and it's 72 hour days so tomorrow is the deadline so that is a relief for me so I can be here tomorrow at deadline
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#670
On September 17 2015 05:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On September 17 2015 05:27 LightningStrike wrote:
On September 17 2015 05:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 17 2015 05:23 LightningStrike wrote:
I here and got out of class early and I been trying to answer people's concerns straight up to the best of my ability rayn. Plus I take you over Vivax because I can't remember much of Vivax other than he's the Martyr because no one cced him. We don't want him to have it because if he dies when he got it than we lose it for the rest of the game I think if I read the op correctly.

okay. if you are sure i am town and you are right why would i not die?

Angel save assuming Vivax dies from the soup. Also I just checked the op about the timing of the lynch and it's 72 hour days so tomorrow is the deadline so that is a relief for me so I can be here tomorrow at deadline

okay. why do you assume we lynch town D1?

I didn't assume Damdred is town is Angel saves work if the people don't get soup killed?
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#672
On September 17 2015 05:31 Fidei86 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2015 05:27 LightningStrike wrote:
On September 17 2015 05:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 17 2015 05:23 LightningStrike wrote:
I here and got out of class early and I been trying to answer people's concerns straight up to the best of my ability rayn. Plus I take you over Vivax because I can't remember much of Vivax other than he's the Martyr because no one cced him. We don't want him to have it because if he dies when he got it than we lose it for the rest of the game I think if I read the op correctly.

okay. if you are sure i am town and you are right why would i not die?

Angel save assuming Vivax dies from the soup. Also I just checked the op about the timing of the lynch and it's 72 hour days so tomorrow is the deadline so that is a relief for me so I can be here tomorrow at deadline

@LS I'm pretty sure it's either or with the soup.

Okay I check the op about the soup and if they do soup it's at night and they will lose their kp if I read it correctly.
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#675
So with the soup being a night think only and if they use the soup over the kp than we can have the Grail on a Town leader(rayn). If the person who got the Grail dies it leaves the game.
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#676
On September 17 2015 05:45 The Shining wrote:
Also, to help with the whole meta reading me thing, LS and HtS have been in more than one game with me, as well. Geript played the game I was scum, although he did say Im in some sort of middle ground in between metas. Rels, you may want to directly pressure them to opine on my meta read, since you were the one asking.

I will check your scum game and compare it to your town games once I get home since it will be easier for me to do that because of a larger screen on my normal computer.
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September 16 2015 20:51 GMT
#679
On September 17 2015 05:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On September 17 2015 05:46 LightningStrike wrote:
So with the soup being a night think only and if they use the soup over the kp than we can have the Grail on a Town leader(rayn). If the person who got the Grail dies it leaves the game.

what he fuck you just wanted someone who is NOT going to die to have it-....

I most likely not going to killed unless I dead right on someone's alignment and they see me as the biggest threat but I doubt that myself.We could potentally give it to FF because he normally lives very long despite the fact he got a high winrate if he lives in a long game(idk why most people let him live later in the games lol)
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#680
On September 17 2015 05:51 The Shining wrote:
I don't think scum would trade their nk for a soup kill N1, with no role to go off of except Vivax. No offense to Vivax but there are stronger townread like Rayn and Rels around. And if they guess a 2nd role and fail, they end up revealing a witch, if I understood the OP correctly

True....
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#681
I guess I can just be happy we got 25 hours till EoD so we still got plenty of time to still think about the Grail vote.
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#688
On September 17 2015 05:59 Fidei86 wrote:
@LS you were on geript for quite a while, but now you've moved onto Damdred. Was it something geript did, or what? Because from my view, geript seemed to be carrying on in the same way he has for the last couple of days.

Damdred I ound to be much scummier.
On September 17 2015 06:02 The Shining wrote:
Lol...

LS you said you were null on Tictock and that you'd be going back to reread his filter. Did you ever do that? Still null or ?

I still need to do it when I get home.
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#689
On September 17 2015 05:59 Fidei86 wrote:
@LS you were on geript for quite a while, but now you've moved onto Damdred. Was it something geript did, or what? Because from my view, geript seemed to be carrying on in the same way he has for the last couple of days.

Damdred I ound to be much scummier.
On September 17 2015 06:02 The Shining wrote:
Lol...

LS you said you were null on Tictock and that you'd be going back to reread his filter. Did you ever do that? Still null or ?

I still need to do it when I get home.
On September 17 2015 06:11 The Shining wrote:
I think I heard about that one. Didn't he lie about moving or something and provided pics and all?

Ya but he still got killed by JAT the Vig
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#690
rolf I accidently double posted the first two quotes........
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#724
On September 17 2015 11:14 Half the Sky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2015 20:48 LightningStrike wrote:
On September 16 2015 16:44 Rels wrote:
OK LS. I will try to explain what I think so we can understand each other this time. Everybody seems to have drop the scumread on you, and I understand. Your posts really show anger at being scumread, then free of mind where you're not anymore.
Please, if you're town, read carefully what others are saying, 'cause it's super frustrating to not be understood. I'll ask you two questions that need elaboration to answer, so take the time to do this right.

1. You said to HTS "some of the posts" you did this game were posts you would never make as scum. Can you show me a few example and explain to me why you wouldn't post that as scum ?

2. Your geript scumread is interesting, 'cause of the following: my reason for townreading geript was that I thought you were scum, and I didn't think geript would bus this early in the game. Now obviously if you're town, this push on you isn't alignment indicative anymore.
What you are saying is that geript lied to explain his vote on you. You're saying this is a lie:
On September 15 2015 10:46 geript wrote:
On September 15 2015 07:20 LightningStrike wrote:
So rayn since you want the martyr to claim do you see any benefit of them not claiming at all?

When he's town he'll still follow the leader, but he'll generally over talk about a random reason he's thought against it. A less than LS question.

Can you prove this is a lie ? For example, you talked about a game where you didn't do this. Was geript in this game or obsing this game ?

1. I was mainly asking HTS if she thinks I can any of the posts as scum instead of town since me and her actually been playing together since November of last year so she got lots of experience with playing with me.

2. Geript wasn't in that game nor obsing that game(Carol of the Bells Mafia) but in that game I actually went away from following the town leader at the time GlowingBear and pushed for my own lynch of Tubesock because I tohught Tubesock scum slipped about the amount of scum in the setup lol.


So LS, to answer your question there, you played VERY close to your town meta in JOAT, and you had me and even rsoultin totally fooled. You also were not doing too badly/too far off that in TL LXX (Guardians of the Galaxy) until you got hit by the tracker. You obviously had a much weaker scum game in Witchcraft 3, so I decided (as you can see in the post I made to you about how Rels read you) to try and flesh out your thinking with the three points (articulation/current scum meta/town capability) I had in mind. I think with the games I do have under my belt with you, it's probably the best way I can get a handle on you. Once you started providing the reads you did, along with the responses to some of the other questions others were asking, I felt you were probably town.

To be fair in JOAT I was coached by Geript and the fact that town was very disoraganized there made it easy for me to hide there lol. If I was caught it was mainly because I wasn't posting as much as I did normally in JOAT. Guardians I just was hit by a rl truck at end of Day 1 there so I basically claimed scum and people had no idea who would be mafia with me there. Witchcraft 3 I had no motivation at all because I Was leaving for that weekend to Houston and didn't want to play much while on a mini vacation but WBG used a perfect meta case on me there so meh. Didn't help GB was smurfing and was being insane in that scum qt >.>
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September 17 2015 03:39 GMT
#726
Okay so tomorrow morning when I get some sleep I will read Ticktock's filter as I was to busy with homework for college so when I get back I will read Ticktock's filter and put my read on him!
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#794
On September 17 2015 18:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
LS i believe is mafia for several reasons.

His opening. Geript is definiteky right about his meta. Also see the next point. I talked about this earlier.

LS has really hard time lying as mafia. Here he does things that are scummy when not explained. When people ask him to ezplain, instead of laying out his thought process he takes a re-route and talks about something distantly related to the matter (see for example the GB stuff - that jhas nothing to do with what geript said because gb is NEVER a town leader even when he is "leading"). Also see the part where i ask his grail vote.

Sorry for bad explanation. I am on phone and posting on phone is shit.

1. Geript is not entirely right about my meta I proved in the thread.
2. People been asking things and they wanted it explained further so ofc it looks like it gets rerouted.
3. We both have different definitions of Townl eaders so ofc you don't think GB is ever a town leader but he did lead town in Carol of the Bells because HF was scum that game so ofc HF wasn't exactly leading town that game.
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#795
On September 17 2015 21:40 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2015 18:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
LS i believe is mafia for several reasons.

His opening. Geript is definiteky right about his meta. Also see the next point. I talked about this earlier.

LS has really hard time lying as mafia. Here he does things that are scummy when not explained. When people ask him to ezplain, instead of laying out his thought process he takes a re-route and talks about something distantly related to the matter (see for example the GB stuff - that jhas nothing to do with what geript said because gb is NEVER a town leader even when he is "leading"). Also see the part where i ask his grail vote.

Sorry for bad explanation. I am on phone and posting on phone is shit.

1. Geript is not entirely right about my meta I proved it in the thread.
2. People been asking things and they wanted it explained further so ofc it looks like it gets rerouted.
3. We both have different definitions of Townl eaders so ofc you don't think GB is ever a town leader but he did lead town in Carol of the Bells because HF was scum that game so ofc HF wasn't exactly leading town that game.

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#796
I guess that what happens when Rayn drinks Alcohol when I'm town
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#797
Anyone here want to talk? I kinda bored if no one is here I will just filter dive Ticktock.
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#802
On September 17 2015 21:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Oh you know iahve drunk some.
How?

Because I know you way to well from our talk on TS.
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#803
On September 17 2015 21:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:
No no no.
It does not matter. You are mafia.

I not fucking mafia maybe smoke some weed? I heard it's good for you :o
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#804
Also I checked Ticktock's filter. Got him null still my main thing that bothers me is his unnatural read progression regarding me. First he called me scum than later he said I was town for some of my reactions yet it doesn't seem natural. His mind seem to change a lot with thread sentiment.
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September 17 2015 13:11 GMT
#807
On September 17 2015 22:08 Rels wrote:
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On September 17 2015 22:06 LightningStrike wrote:
Also I checked Ticktock's filter. Got him null still my main thing that bothers me is his unnatural read progression regarding me. First he called me scum than later he said I was town for some of my reactions yet it doesn't seem natural. His mind seem to change a lot with thread sentiment.

how is it different from everybody's else reactions ? (mine, HTS, rayn at the time, etc.)

He only changed with the thread sentiment O_o HTS maybe done the same thing but rayn's read progression was more natural though although he changed his read on me because apparently I reroute shit when some of the questions asked me to explain further which looks like it's rerouting -.-
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#823
On September 17 2015 22:38 Tictock wrote:
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On September 17 2015 22:06 LightningStrike wrote:
Also I checked Ticktock's filter. Got him null still my main thing that bothers me is his unnatural read progression regarding me. First he called me scum than later he said I was town for some of my reactions yet it doesn't seem natural. His mind seem to change a lot with thread sentiment.


Got it, you only care if I talk about you.

You really can't get anything else out of my filter?

I some of your stuff was fine but that read change what have me questioning you honestly. I had to check the timing of it because someone in the thread said it was when the thread sentiment changed from being to scum to me being town and your read progression didn't seem so natural :\
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#824
On September 17 2015 22:46 Tictock wrote:
LS if you are still around, who do you think should get the grail?

Or do you still want to give it to rayn?

I honestly idk. Someone who lives long normally I guess would be the best option.
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September 17 2015 14:52 GMT
#841
Guys I wont be able to do much until EoD in terms of vote switching so if anything changes from now to when I can play I will check it out.
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September 17 2015 20:30 GMT
#948
I'm here and my college is actually a half hour away from my house HTS but I got to see a adviser for like 20 mins and I will only be around 30 mins before EoD but if I not there in time I willing to get myself lynched if it means to solve the game. If I get here in time of EoD I will answer all the stuff then HTS.
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#989
Okay I got done with it early so I will answer these questions from you HTS.
On September 18 2015 04:38 Half the Sky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2015 22:11 LightningStrike wrote:
On September 17 2015 22:08 Rels wrote:
On September 17 2015 22:06 LightningStrike wrote:
Also I checked Ticktock's filter. Got him null still my main thing that bothers me is his unnatural read progression regarding me. First he called me scum than later he said I was town for some of my reactions yet it doesn't seem natural. His mind seem to change a lot with thread sentiment.

how is it different from everybody's else reactions ? (mine, HTS, rayn at the time, etc.)

He only changed with the thread sentiment O_o HTS maybe done the same thing but rayn's read progression was more natural though although he changed his read on me because apparently I reroute shit when some of the questions asked me to explain further which looks like it's rerouting -.-


Alright, so you explained this part about rayn - just saw this now, but now demonstrate how Tictock fails to do this. That's the part I'm not getting.

If you looked at ticktocks filter he never mention then I could be scum then later he mention and said I could be town with nothing about me inbetween those posts. He only brought me up when I was a hot topic of discussion.
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#992
Also I going to be getting the car soon and will try my best to get home in time of EoD.
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#1031
I here now and I see we switching to Dandel? I just mainly seem as a useless troll myself unless that how he plays as scum I don't see much of him being scum.
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#1035
Also he seems to be mostly sarcastic hence why I called him a troll more than mafia honestly.
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#1052
On September 18 2015 06:47 Half the Sky wrote:
I don't fully understand your second sentence.

Look at his filter - what do you make of his responses to Rels and myself

Or what do you think of Rels' case?

When I said look at his filter I meant about the timing of his posts about me and correlation of me being a hot topic at that time. About his responses to Rels and you: It's okay nothing to spectacular about it.
Also I think Vivax might be our best grail vote since hs is the unCCed Martyr and that role seems way antitown I doubt mafia would waste their KP to soup kill a Martyr.
##HolyGrailUnvote
##HolyGrailVote:Vivax
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#1053
Fuck it I voting to save myself.
##Unvote
##Vote: Dandel
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#1058
Oh FF didn't vote me yet......
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#1060
On September 18 2015 06:57 Rels wrote:
Wtf does that have anything to do with you

People are trying to switch to me and I trying to vote for the wagon that is the counter wagon to me.
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September 17 2015 22:00 GMT
#1065
Sigh I guess shannies weren't happening at all and ended up changing my vote for nothing....
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LightningStrike
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September 18 2015 22:23 GMT
#1072
On September 18 2015 06:59 Rels wrote:
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On September 18 2015 06:55 LightningStrike wrote:
On September 18 2015 06:47 Half the Sky wrote:
I don't fully understand your second sentence.

Look at his filter - what do you make of his responses to Rels and myself

Or what do you think of Rels' case?

When I said look at his filter I meant about the timing of his posts about me and correlation of me being a hot topic at that time.

That doesn't answer the fucking question

I was rather confused by the wording of the post at the time. I felt his responses to you and HTS were okay but meh I should prob check his past games and see how he acts as both alignment.
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September 18 2015 22:24 GMT
#1073
On September 19 2015 07:13 Fecalfeast wrote:
So that was painful. 3 dead towns is pretty sad for day 2

You sure all 3 of them were town? Some thought Shining was scum tbh.
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September 18 2015 22:46 GMT
#1074
Anyone here? I would like to talk to anyone now!
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September 18 2015 22:56 GMT
#1075
Btw if you got a red check Claim it ASAP but if you got a green check don't say anything about the green check!
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September 19 2015 11:34 GMT
#1118
On September 19 2015 14:06 Tictock wrote:
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On September 19 2015 07:24 LightningStrike wrote:
On September 19 2015 07:13 Fecalfeast wrote:
So that was painful. 3 dead towns is pretty sad for day 2

You sure all 3 of them were town? Some thought Shining was scum tbh.


Did you think he was scum?

I had him null might recheck later to see if I get something different.

On September 19 2015 18:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:
nvm he claimed at the deadline.
let's kill LS now okay?

at least we can lynch scum today.

I will claim if it means to save myself here but I wont claim until like 2 hours EoD if I got the majority of the votes.


On September 19 2015 18:56 Vivax wrote:
The issue is that so far I've read LS correctly in every game I was town in and when I read his filter in this one it doesn't really stick out to me. Maybe he's gotten better but I certainly haven't gotten worse.

Thank you for believing I am town this game and no you haven't gotten worse it just you are one of the few people who can read me correctly when you are town

On September 19 2015 19:03 Rels wrote:
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On September 19 2015 07:23 LightningStrike wrote:
On September 18 2015 06:59 Rels wrote:
On September 18 2015 06:55 LightningStrike wrote:
On September 18 2015 06:47 Half the Sky wrote:
I don't fully understand your second sentence.

Look at his filter - what do you make of his responses to Rels and myself

Or what do you think of Rels' case?

When I said look at his filter I meant about the timing of his posts about me and correlation of me being a hot topic at that time.

That doesn't answer the fucking question

I was rather confused by the wording of the post at the time. I felt his responses to you and HTS were okay but meh I should prob check his past games and see how he acts as both alignment.

I don't understand this. When asked to say anything about TT LS focus on what TT said about him. When asked to say what he thinks abuot Dandel LS focus on what Dandel said about him.

I didn't say much about Dandel and thought he was just a troll. I only swap to him because I thought you guys were going to shanni to me and hammered Dandel to stop any shannie at the time.
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September 19 2015 11:36 GMT
#1120
On September 19 2015 19:12 Rels wrote:
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On September 19 2015 19:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 19 2015 19:05 Rels wrote:
rayn. Explanation please

if you are town and believe i am town and geript is town you lynch LS over Dandel 10 times out of 10.

easy to say that now. Dandel was fucking scummy. And I was right; I said he was mafia or grandier. I would have voted LS if Dandel would have claimed or explained his fucking Shining scumread
easy to say that too when you townread LS at some point during the day. I still have doubt on him 'cause, like you, I thought his attitude when he was being pushed was genuinely emotionnal. Now it may be fake, and I think he's mafia now, especially with the geript kill

I honestly would never kill geript I don't think of him highly as a player even with the Holy Grail on him I would of killed Rayn 10/10 just because Rayn is a much better player than Geript.
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September 19 2015 11:38 GMT
#1121
On September 19 2015 20:34 Vivax wrote:
Okay need reads from LS ASAP cause he didn't seem to have anyone as scum when Dandel was getting lynched. Only some thoughts about filter diving tick tock but there's not really a conclusion and he answers a question from FF on who should get the grail.

So the worst thing I can find atm is his lack of scumreads.

Ugh I had Damdred as scum and I still think he's scum honestly. I finding the Geript kill weird because he not exactly a good player compared to Rayn. Even with the Holy Grail I thought they would kill off Rayn but they didn't.
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September 19 2015 18:57 GMT
#1130
On September 19 2015 22:26 Fidei86 wrote:
Also, I find LS' defence super unconvincing. I've seen a lot of scum try and move the conversation into "why did that person die". NK WIFOM is pretty meh. And even if you wouldn't have killed him, the other Mafia could have.

LS what was your read on geript before he died?

Scum but now I have him town because he was NK'd.
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September 19 2015 18:59 GMT
#1131
On September 20 2015 03:44 Half the Sky wrote:
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On September 20 2015 03:38 Fecalfeast wrote:
The deadlinevote leader was damdred until people switched to dandel. This makes me think damdred is a good chance of being a hit.


I personally think shining was super town but that isn't confirmed i guess so maybe dandel has god reads but i doubt it.


I looked at the VCAs, the latter voters (LS!!!) really stand a good chance of being mafia, plus those who really drove the Dandel lynch (probably at the beginning). Preliminary thoughts here.

So for you to make this conclusion you imply that someone was "protecting" damdred to do this or driving the lynch off him.

Am I correct? If not, what are you really saying so I'm not misunderstanding?

The reason I thought was that he'd be DT checked, and I trusted rayn on the mechanics. So I really don't understand.

I not scum HTS I really thought people were going to shannie to me because said they would so I changed my vote for self preservation on my part like I really want to live but if I have to die for you guys to figure out the scum team then I willing to die for that.
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September 19 2015 19:17 GMT
#1137
On September 20 2015 04:11 Half the Sky wrote:
LS

Here's the thing. People have made it clear you have trouble lying. I am making my best effort personally to flesh out the questions explicitly as I can as possible so I can get past the part where I know you cannot articulate yourself well. So the issue is that you are not particularly answering directly or not even asking me to clarify.

I am trying to work with you here based on all I know about you. But I'll be frank, you aren't making it easier, and I would expect some sort of pushback from you if you thought my questions were unclear (either alignment) or loaded (i.e. mafia motivated) or "out to get you" (like you pinged me out correctly in Newbie LX when I was mafia, and I used lynch all liars to get you mislynched) and so far I'm not seeing any of those responses.

The other points against you now are VCA and NK wifom, though the latter is weaker, it's not helping you at all.

I got a wall of text post coming up about my posts about Damdred but I going to say this before making that wall of text post about my position on Damdred over the game: I thought I had read some of the questions right the first I taking a Reading Class atm to work on my reading but then I saw post by rels where said I didn't answer the question and realized I misread it so I answered it when I quoted Rels. I only pinged you out in Newbie LX was because I knew and you knew that I wasn't capable of making a lot of posts as mafia at the time and you were misrepresenting me hard there when I got lynched in that game as VT.
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September 19 2015 19:29 GMT
#1145
On September 19 2015 21:54 Vivax wrote:
you talk about a lot but only about damdred when you are asked? there doesnt seem to be much drive at all behind that scumread tbh.

Here was my posts regarding Damdred:
On September 15 2015 21:43 LightningStrike wrote:
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On September 15 2015 21:40 Rels wrote:
On September 15 2015 21:37 LightningStrike wrote:
Also people that tend push are generally are mafia when I'm given my history. I never even played with rels before that could the most true thing of the rule of LS Town which if a new player who never played with me before tries to push me chances are they are mafia looking for a easy lynch. I had this happen time and time again so(shrugs).

There are multiple people pushing you. Why are you attacking me, when I'm voting The Shining ?

Remeber when I said I need to read the thread more carefully? Ya that exactly what happen I saw that you had me in a list but you were voting Shining. Damdred the last he was mafia he called me out when I was town very early in Gaiden 1 so I still having a little pause for now on him.

So in this first post I had about him I was unsure about him because of Gaiden 1 being my last game I had played before taking a break to do some hosting and cohosting stuff and Damdred had called me scum without much reason in Gaiden here is a quote from him from early Day 1 for his first thing about me being scum:
On July 06 2015 07:49 Damdred wrote:
Oh carp... ls why did you roll scum?

and here was Damdred first post about me being scum in this game:
On September 15 2015 10:59 Damdred wrote:
I might not mind a deadline ls vote tbh

Seems like the same attitude towards me in both of those two quotes.
On September 15 2015 23:40 LightningStrike wrote:
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On September 15 2015 22:47 Half the Sky wrote:
On September 15 2015 22:35 LightningStrike wrote:
I here still but I aint claiming unless I have to and will reread the thread later. Rels check all my games out for my meta and you might be able to give a better read on me there the database have all my games I had played in it. HTS you disappoint me


I am taking three things into account.

1 I'm aware you aren't particularly articulate.

2 I'm aware of your mafia meta, I am also aware you've said you don't like playing mafia and have trouble being the bad guy (reference Witchcraft 3).

3 I'm also aware of what you are capable of when you ARE town. This is why I tried to break down Rels' position for you. That he's scumreading you NOT for being AFK, and whether you can realistically break that down to being a mafia motivated post.

I'm purposely ignoring the mechanics based on #1 and focusing more based on #6 in Rels post why you aren't answering the questions.

Also I get the meta references on your end but the LS rule is quite arbitrary regardless of your alignment. The people scumreading you - even if aggressive - ARE breaking down why you are mafia or what about you looks mafia.

So if you ignore Rels and Rayn (hypothetically) for just a second, who is mafia?

1. There was a reason I had Tina be my translator
2. I do have trouble playing as a bad guy because I simply don't like to lie and wasn't coached properly except in JOAT when I bussed the shit out of Sandroba without my team's permission but it got me enough town cred for end game.
3. You think I capable of some of my posts as scum this game?
I was trying to the questions to the best of my abilities but he just understand me (pokes at Tina to translate stuff for Rels)
Damdred could be mafia for slacking off and doing any shit this entire game except calling me mafia in 1 post. Geript is a capable scum player you are correct on that and he coached me in JOAT and his wording seems very weird I agree with you there and the fact he asked rayn a little bit about me(I think I reading what you said in a earlier post) so he could be mafia for the weird wording about me. BTW I at college atmand I got some time before classes and will attempt to reread the thread now.

So in this post I went into details on why I was scumreading Damdred at that time.
On September 15 2015 23:43 LightningStrike wrote:
Also to expand on Damdred he didn't post reaons why I could mafia and wasn't pushing me at all after he called me mafia.

This just added some more detail to my previous post about Damdred.
On September 16 2015 03:50 LightningStrike wrote:
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On September 16 2015 03:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
LightningStrike do you have any other scumreads than geript?

Damdred he only made like 2-3 posts and 1 is him saying I could be mafia without any explanation at all which is so unlike him at all when he's town. Rels could be town but Ticktock null I need to reread his filter when I get home. Rayn I think your town I was just being a jackass earlier regarding you I'm sorry what can I do to make up for it?

At that time Rayn asked me if I had other scumreads other than Geript which I said Damdred and went into detail on it.
On September 16 2015 05:04 LightningStrike wrote:
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On September 16 2015 05:02 The Shining wrote:
Dandel, pretend I'm dumb(which I am). So it IS just an OMGUS is what I got from the post. Correct me if I'm wrong please.

Hi Bill. I feel like we've played together before but have never actually spoken. How are you today? XD Do you, Dandel or LS feel like commenting or asking anything about my catch up post?

LS, ok so misrepresentation and wording but by saying "if he's town", then I'm right in assuming you're not 100% sure he's scum? Can you answer my other question about who else you're suspicious about?

Damdred for not really doing much and he didn't explained his vote on me and left.

I gave a short answer to Shining about who else I was scumreading at the time other than Geript.
On September 16 2015 05:06 LightningStrike wrote:
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On September 16 2015 05:04 LightningStrike wrote:
On September 16 2015 05:02 The Shining wrote:
Dandel, pretend I'm dumb(which I am). So it IS just an OMGUS is what I got from the post. Correct me if I'm wrong please.

Hi Bill. I feel like we've played together before but have never actually spoken. How are you today? XD Do you, Dandel or LS feel like commenting or asking anything about my catch up post?

LS, ok so misrepresentation and wording but by saying "if he's town", then I'm right in assuming you're not 100% sure he's scum? Can you answer my other question about who else you're suspicious about?

Damdred for not really doing much and he didn't explained his vote on me and left.

Here a bigger I did regarding Damdred:
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On September 16 2015 03:50 LightningStrike wrote:
On September 16 2015 03:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
LightningStrike do you have any other scumreads than geript?

Damdred he only made like 2-3 posts and 1 is him saying I could be mafia without any explanation at all which is so unlike him at all when he's town. Rels could be town but Ticktock null I need to reread his filter when I get home. Rayn I think your town I was just being a jackass earlier regarding you I'm sorry what can I do to make up for it?


I quoted my bigger post for Shining to see so he can see my reasoning for Damdred being scum better.
On September 16 2015 05:11 LightningStrike wrote:
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On September 16 2015 05:08 The Shining wrote:
Yeah I did agree with that and pretty much echoed it in my read of him, along with finding it strange that he'd claim he liked to think of himself as a strong town player and ask for the Grail but do nothing to prove it afterwards.

He is a good player by reputation but he playing really lackluster so far

Just a general comment about Damdred's play at the time.
On September 16 2015 06:52 LightningStrike wrote:
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On September 16 2015 06:46 Fecalfeast wrote:
ok rayn i made it
On September 15 2015 07:50 Damdred wrote:
I'd actually like the grail. While I like to think I'm a good town player for whatever reason I have a history of living late which is annoying but it is what it is.

So vote grail for me.


Damdred came in and made this big claim that he's a strong town player who lives really long and should get the grail. He then proceeds to make a weak post saying he's ok with a deadline lynch on ls for no real reason and fricks the heck off.

My impression of damdred this game is that he wanted to enter the game as a strong player, got overshadowed by rayn and wasn't up to trying any harder.

Maybe he'll come back and kick my ass but that doesn't sound like town damdy wamdy to me

^Agreed with you there.

Just a post agreeing with Fecalfeast about Damdred.
On September 17 2015 01:46 LightningStrike wrote:
I honestly just want to lynch Damdred for the reasons why I scumreading him. Also I think Rayn should be the Grail holder since he is almost certainly town. I prob wont be around EoD because of class ends at Eo so Damdrd is my vote for today's lynch.
##Deadline Vote: Damdred
##Holy Grail Vote: Raynpelikoneet

Just me saying why I voting Damdred for deadline vote at the time and why Rayn should have the Grail at the time.
On September 17 2015 05:39 LightningStrike wrote:
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On September 17 2015 05:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 17 2015 05:27 LightningStrike wrote:
On September 17 2015 05:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 17 2015 05:23 LightningStrike wrote:
I here and got out of class early and I been trying to answer people's concerns straight up to the best of my ability rayn. Plus I take you over Vivax because I can't remember much of Vivax other than he's the Martyr because no one cced him. We don't want him to have it because if he dies when he got it than we lose it for the rest of the game I think if I read the op correctly.

okay. if you are sure i am town and you are right why would i not die?

Angel save assuming Vivax dies from the soup. Also I just checked the op about the timing of the lynch and it's 72 hour days so tomorrow is the deadline so that is a relief for me so I can be here tomorrow at deadline

okay. why do you assume we lynch town D1?

I didn't assume Damdred is town is Angel saves work if the people don't get soup killed?

Me responding to Rayn that I didn't think Damdred was town at the time and explaining the Angel mechanic.
On September 17 2015 06:15 LightningStrike wrote:
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On September 17 2015 05:59 Fidei86 wrote:
@LS you were on geript for quite a while, but now you've moved onto Damdred. Was it something geript did, or what? Because from my view, geript seemed to be carrying on in the same way he has for the last couple of days.

Damdred I ound to be much scummier.
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On September 17 2015 06:02 The Shining wrote:
Lol...

LS you said you were null on Tictock and that you'd be going back to reread his filter. Did you ever do that? Still null or ?

I still need to do it when I get home.

On September 17 2015 06:11 The Shining wrote:
I think I heard about that one. Didn't he lie about moving or something and provided pics and all?

Ya but he still got killed by JAT the Vig [/QUOTE]
Me saying to James(Fidei) why I was voting Damdred over Geript and me telling Shining I would check Ticktock's scum game if he got any(I will check this after this post) and me responding to the joke about what happened in that game about BH.
On September 19 2015 20:38 LightningStrike wrote:
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On September 19 2015 20:34 Vivax wrote:
Okay need reads from LS ASAP cause he didn't seem to have anyone as scum when Dandel was getting lynched. Only some thoughts about filter diving tick tock but there's not really a conclusion and he answers a question from FF on who should get the grail.

So the worst thing I can find atm is his lack of scumreads.

Ugh I had Damdred as scum and I still think he's scum honestly. I finding the Geript kill weird because he not exactly a good player compared to Rayn. Even with the Holy Grail I thought they would kill off Rayn but they didn't.

Just me responding to Vivax about my scumreads that are alive(Damdred).
So TLDR version of this:
I had thought Damdred was scum for most of the game and made a good amount of posts about him.
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September 19 2015 19:31 GMT
#1147
Also what is OGI? I heard that term before but never actually looked it up.
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September 19 2015 19:35 GMT
#1149
On September 20 2015 04:32 Half the Sky wrote:
Outside of game information.

Basically there is information that I know about you irrespective of this game (namely your personal life) that is going to influence my read or how I interpret you.

Now I have to run.

Oh okay.
When you get back check out my big post.
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September 19 2015 21:28 GMT
#1154
On September 20 2015 06:13 Tictock wrote:
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On September 20 2015 04:29 LightningStrike wrote:
Me saying to James(Fidei) why I was voting Damdred over Geript and me telling Shining I would check Ticktock's scum game if he got any(I will check this after this post) and me responding to the joke about what happened in that game about BH.


This was posted about 2 hours ago.

If you are having trouble finding my only scum game (Holy Guardians) I might be willing to delve into the dark reaches of the Archives to dig it out for you.

I actually looked into the database after i had played a LoL game and you only got 1 scum game like you said and I had did a quick check on your other games and first note it seems like you're postier as scum in terms of posts per phase but I should check the content of those posts in a little bit to see what actually would make you mafia in that game over your town games. Also since I know a good amount of you guys play Dota 2 is better here is a nice little message from me about playing LoL instead of Dota 2:
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September 20 2015 00:19 GMT
#1158
Did anyone even read my long post about my Damdred throughout the game?
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September 20 2015 00:59 GMT
#1161
On September 20 2015 09:44 Tictock wrote:
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On September 20 2015 09:19 LightningStrike wrote:
Did anyone even read my long post about my Damdred throughout the game?


I did, reminded me of the filter dive I did of you before EoD.

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On September 19 2015 07:56 LightningStrike wrote:
Btw if you got a red check Claim it ASAP but if you got a green check don't say anything about the green check!


No one has claimed a redcheck, so who else do you think is scum LS?

Idk quite honestly if I wrong on anyone could be James because I a huge sucker for people actually defend me when I get under fire he been kinda me focused I guess more than anyone filter % wise he wasn't talking much about anyone compared to me O_o
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September 20 2015 01:44 GMT
#1162
Man every time I post the thread dies am I a natural thread killer or what's going on?
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September 20 2015 12:38 GMT
#1253
You know what fuck it I don't even want to live the long game for my role to be useful because I would most likely be mislynched before it becomes good. I'm the POPE I was visted by Geript who is the WANDERING WRAITH I was wondering why the fuck I would get Night 1 check result from Palmar but it turned out the pm was that Geript visted me and he was the WANDERING WRAITH before he died so I know Geript is 100% town other than NK WIFOM but also because he was the WANDERING WRAITH because he visted me. Here is my obligatory picture of a pope:
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September 20 2015 12:43 GMT
#1266
Just letting you know Vivax you read was right the entire time and you haven't become shit.
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September 20 2015 12:45 GMT
#1273
On September 20 2015 21:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
We are still lynching LS.
##DeadlineVote LightningStrike

WHY THE FUCK WOULD YOU VOTE YOUR FUCKING POPE LIKE SERIOUSLY? ARE YOU THIS BAD RAYN I WAS THOUGHT YOU WERE A GOOD PLAYER BUT YOU TURNED OUT TO BE BAD .
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September 20 2015 12:53 GMT
#1280
Seriously Rayn why you think I said I didn't want to claim Day 1 and Day 2 until now? I"M THE REAL FUCKING POPE WETHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT WHEN YOU SEE POST GAME AND IF YOU ARE TOWN YOU WILL REALIZED THAT I WAS THE POPE ALL ALONG YOU MIGHT DRINK YOUR SORROWS AWAY.....
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September 20 2015 12:58 GMT
#1288
GERIPT FYI I WISH YOU WERE ALIVE AT THIS POINT TO HELP ME DEAL WITH RAYN YOU KNOW I SPEAKING THE TRUTH ABOUT YOU GERIPT
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September 20 2015 13:01 GMT
#1297
On September 20 2015 21:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Also geript checks me as a wraith about 99 times out of 100.
true story.

No offense but he would rather go to me since he was suspicious of me over you or his role is actually RNG and he visted me instead of you because of RNG idk I don't even know but I don't think's RNG he would visted me on purpose.
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September 20 2015 13:04 GMT
#1301
Rels pardon my french but: Pourquoi vous êtes mauvais?
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September 20 2015 13:05 GMT
#1304
On September 20 2015 21:58 Vivax wrote:
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On September 20 2015 21:55 Rels wrote:
On September 20 2015 21:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
If he gets counter-claimed the pope dies with vivax anyways.
There is literally no downside for making the claim. But good enough, at least we know geript's role 100%.

geript could be pope too if LS is mafia
please explain how you know geript is 100% wraith


I think it has already been said somewhere that LS is exposing himself to the risk of a double CC if he says he's the pope AND he has been visited by the wraith (which would make sense if it was geript cause he was suspicious of LS I suppose)

Rels did in this quote:
On September 20 2015 21:52 Rels wrote:
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On September 20 2015 21:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
If he gets counter-claimed the pope dies with vivax anyways.
There is literally no downside for making the claim. But good enough, at least we know geript's role 100%.

yeah that is fucking true
why would he do that in a bus situation though
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#1305
On September 20 2015 22:04 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2015 22:03 Vivax wrote:
I know that LS' claim is awful. Any claim is awful.

But why does rayn acknowledge this in this case and not in the case of an hypotheitcal inquisitor outing Damdred?

No he is right
LS is lying about geript
rayn is very good in this setup, and geript knows it
he would 100% visit rayn so rayn has a setup advantage

WHY WOULD I LIE ABOUT GERIPT AT THIS POINT? I SWEAR TO GOD I WASN'T EXPECTING PALMAR TO PUT A NIGHT 1 RESULT PM TO ME BUT I FOUND OUT THROUGH THAT PM I WAS VISTED GERIPT.......
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September 20 2015 13:12 GMT
#1312
On September 20 2015 22:09 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2015 22:06 LightningStrike wrote:
On September 20 2015 22:04 Rels wrote:
On September 20 2015 22:03 Vivax wrote:
I know that LS' claim is awful. Any claim is awful.

But why does rayn acknowledge this in this case and not in the case of an hypotheitcal inquisitor outing Damdred?

No he is right
LS is lying about geript
rayn is very good in this setup, and geript knows it
he would 100% visit rayn so rayn has a setup advantage

WHY WOULD I LIE ABOUT GERIPT AT THIS POINT? I SWEAR TO GOD I WASN'T EXPECTING PALMAR TO PUT A NIGHT 1 RESULT PM TO ME BUT I FOUND OUT THROUGH THAT PM I WAS VISTED GERIPT.......

For your claim to be more believable
But geript visits rayn 100% if he is wraith
Him not doing so means he wasn't wraith
So he was pope and you're claiming his role

BELIVE OR NOT HE FUCKING VISTED ME RATHER RAYN THINKS I LIEING OR NOT I KNOW THE TRUTH I WOULD BREAK THE RULES OF SHOWING MY PM BOX BUT I NOT RISKING A TL BAN FOR THIS GAME.
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September 20 2015 13:30 GMT
#1331
On September 20 2015 22:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On September 20 2015 22:21 Rels wrote:
rayn. HTS clearly stated LS is incapable of lying. And I think you did too, that was part of your argument about why LS was scum, about how he was not really answering questions so he didn't have to lie
now if that is false, HTS is mafia. But someone would have said it already if it was false
if that is true, LS is telling the truth

SO WHAT? DOES HE CLAIM MAFIA IF HE IS MAFIA OR WHAT?
It's not like LS has never called any townie mafia in his mafia games.

What the fuck is this bullshit.

I HAD CLAIMED MAFIA AS MAFIA BECAUSE I WAS CAUGHT BY THE TRACKER IN GUARDIAN OF THE GALAXY WHEN YOU WERE SCUM WITH ME
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September 20 2015 13:32 GMT
#1336
On September 20 2015 22:31 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2015 22:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 20 2015 22:21 Rels wrote:
rayn. HTS clearly stated LS is incapable of lying. And I think you did too, that was part of your argument about why LS was scum, about how he was not really answering questions so he didn't have to lie
now if that is false, HTS is mafia. But someone would have said it already if it was false
if that is true, LS is telling the truth

SO WHAT? DOES HE CLAIM MAFIA IF HE IS MAFIA OR WHAT?
It's not like LS has never called any townie mafia in his mafia games.

What the fuck is this bullshit.

rayn
YOU said LS dodged questions cause he has difficulties lying
And now you're saying he's lying about:
- his claim
- geript being wraith
- geript visiting him
Has LS ever fakeclaimed ?

I had fakeclaimed Named VT as Green VT in Himalayas Mafia I want that game out of my mind T_T
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September 20 2015 13:34 GMT
#1339
HTS can attest to that I had fakeclaimed Named VT as Green VT in her game(Himalayas Mafia).
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September 20 2015 13:35 GMT
#1345
James if you here can you post and same to you HTS.
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September 20 2015 13:37 GMT
#1352
Rels is obviously joking BM.
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September 20 2015 13:45 GMT
#1368
On September 20 2015 22:39 Rels wrote:
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On September 20 2015 22:37 LightningStrike wrote:
Rels is obviously joking BM.

LOL LS
I never said that, BM edited my posts as a joke

I thought you saw it in your filter my bad.
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September 20 2015 13:48 GMT
#1371
On September 20 2015 22:45 Bill Murray wrote:
LS are you ever going to scumhunt this game?

Yes but the people I want to talk to are not here.
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September 20 2015 13:56 GMT
#1379
He posted within the like 5-6 mins?
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September 20 2015 17:25 GMT
#1429
On September 21 2015 01:12 Half the Sky wrote:
Alright.

I'm on my way home, I was out all last night, I was out all day today. Since the husband is going into League marathon mode before work tonight (kill me please) I am setting aside HOURS to sort through this shit.

Offhand as I recall the questions

- is LS capable of lying/fakeclaim history
OFFHAND - I know for a fact he fakeclaimed Named Town in Himalayas and that was massive controversy after he rescinded the fakeclaim. He had a MAJOR breakdown when the pressure piled on him that almost got him in trouble with the hosting team (Fecalfeast and I had some discussion on it) but ultimately we settled for a post-game warning (reference Ban List 2.0)
- has LS ever fakeclaimed as mafia? Honestly NOT THAT I RECALL. I think he was lynched very early and picked off early in Witchcraft 3. In TL LXX Guardians he was tracked to the N1 kill. In my first ever game, Student IV, he sacrificed himself, both blues were dead so he did not fakeclaim.

- is he capable of lying? honestly he has a very difficult time. He said so himself in Witchcraft 3. He doesn't like playing scum because of the lying.

- is he capable of breaking meta? Well in JOAT he fooled us once, but he played VERY close to meta as coached by geript. To my knowledge he hasn't broken meta in a manner that benefits him as mafia.

Just saw this because I was playing some Pokemon TCGO(Trading Card Game Online). Thank for attesting to the fact that I had fake claimed as town and no I never claimed a blue role as scum before I had only claimed VT/Town(I claimed just Town in JOAT). Was this the OGI you were talking about that you said it wasn't place to talk about it?
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September 20 2015 17:29 GMT
#1433
I here HTS what up girl?
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September 20 2015 17:30 GMT
#1434
On September 21 2015 02:28 Fecalfeast wrote:
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On September 21 2015 02:27 Half the Sky wrote:
10 minutes from home...anyone else around?

I'm pretending to read cases while I smoke weed

I really don't feel like reading atm

At least you are being honest lol. You crack me up sometimes FF <3
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September 20 2015 17:34 GMT
#1437
On September 21 2015 02:30 Half the Sky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2015 02:25 LightningStrike wrote:
On September 21 2015 01:12 Half the Sky wrote:
Alright.

I'm on my way home, I was out all last night, I was out all day today. Since the husband is going into League marathon mode before work tonight (kill me please) I am setting aside HOURS to sort through this shit.

Offhand as I recall the questions

- is LS capable of lying/fakeclaim history
OFFHAND - I know for a fact he fakeclaimed Named Town in Himalayas and that was massive controversy after he rescinded the fakeclaim. He had a MAJOR breakdown when the pressure piled on him that almost got him in trouble with the hosting team (Fecalfeast and I had some discussion on it) but ultimately we settled for a post-game warning (reference Ban List 2.0)
- has LS ever fakeclaimed as mafia? Honestly NOT THAT I RECALL. I think he was lynched very early and picked off early in Witchcraft 3. In TL LXX Guardians he was tracked to the N1 kill. In my first ever game, Student IV, he sacrificed himself, both blues were dead so he did not fakeclaim.

- is he capable of lying? honestly he has a very difficult time. He said so himself in Witchcraft 3. He doesn't like playing scum because of the lying.

- is he capable of breaking meta? Well in JOAT he fooled us once, but he played VERY close to meta as coached by geript. To my knowledge he hasn't broken meta in a manner that benefits him as mafia.

Just saw this because I was playing some Pokemon TCGO(Trading Card Game Online). Thank for attesting to the fact that I had fake claimed as town and no I never claimed a blue role as scum before I had only claimed VT/Town(I claimed just Town in JOAT). Was this the OGI you were talking about that you said it wasn't place to talk about it?


Nope. The OGI is related to your personal life, which is why I stopped short of talking about it. I highlighted the parts from stuff you said about your university coursework that alluded to it.

I admit I am a bit cautious on you breaking meta to lie but for what I know it is still in the tinfoil world for me - you've never done it before and you openly admitted in QTs/etc that you don't want to/won't do it - and I'd be a bit more concerned if you were still alive late game. The fact that BM had to coach you on Skype on how to pull it off (and you still couldn't) in witchcraft 3 is clear indication enough.

In Guardians I don't think you had to deal with any of that, and you claimed scum anyhow when you were tracked by Trfel. You didn't even try getting around it at all.

To be fair in Guardians I actually thought about fake claiming Cop but however Rayn at the time had claimed Tracker and I got tracked by the Orb from Tfrel so I had claimed scum to save my roleblocker for a few days since I was a goon with Palmar being the other goon.(fucking sicklucker's crazy plan actually worked in that game using the orb to kill Palmar lol)
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September 20 2015 17:37 GMT
#1438
On September 21 2015 02:33 Half the Sky wrote:
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On September 21 2015 02:29 LightningStrike wrote:
I here HTS what up girl?


Not much. Trying to power through a few filters and re-read the thread on mobile. Apparently there's a meeting in about 90 minutes a bunch of people are going to return here to discuss a few things.

Fidei also mentioned he would return to allocate more time to Mafia Sunday night (it's 1830 here, not sure what time he'd be around) but I'm hoping he can split time between NSM14 and here.

Isn't a little harder to read stuff on mobile lol. Also you asked someone to kill you because your Husband wants to play LoL why not play with him
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September 20 2015 17:42 GMT
#1442
On September 21 2015 02:40 Rels wrote:
Your page argument is stupid though. I don't know why having 17 pages is alignment indicative

Because for some people it actually alignment indicative for them because they post more as town than scum. Some people post more as scum than Town lol.
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September 20 2015 17:45 GMT
#1446
On September 21 2015 02:42 Fecalfeast wrote:
which is a good scum tactic I have seen before. Didn't eden have 50 pages one time?

Ugh not that much when he played scum lol. He had 46 page filter in Horn of Africa I think that was his biggest filter in any game lol.
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September 20 2015 17:51 GMT
#1451
On September 21 2015 02:48 Half the Sky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2015 02:42 Fecalfeast wrote:
which is a good scum tactic I have seen before. Didn't eden have 50 pages one time?


That was as town vanilla in Horn of Africa. He fakeclaimed miller, goodness knows why.

Eden is a player who does jack all as scum, what that has to do with this game, no bloody idea.

You mean Eden doesn't do shit as scum lol. <3 Edem I wish he plays more.
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September 20 2015 18:15 GMT
#1470
Fine just lynch me if it's the best play but I still think lynching Damdred is the best move since he's very likely mafia despite what you saying Rayn.
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September 20 2015 18:21 GMT
#1472
Not worries Rayn Geript and I forgive you and so will God
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September 20 2015 18:21 GMT
#1473
On September 21 2015 03:21 LightningStrike wrote:
No worries Rayn Geript and I forgive you and so will God

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September 20 2015 19:40 GMT
#1484
Hmm BM isn't even here O_o
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September 20 2015 20:14 GMT
#1485
HTS are you here?
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September 20 2015 20:26 GMT
#1489
On September 21 2015 05:19 Tictock wrote:
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On September 20 2015 20:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Tictock what happens if we lynch LS here and he is town? Your dumb post about the numbers makes no fucking sense at all.


I'm a little confused by this question.

My "numbers post" had nothing to do with LS, it was purely an attempt to make sure that a claim and soup kill today did not leave town in a shitty spot.

Why is my post dumb? There was 3 people who did the exact same type of post. What about mine in particular is dumb?

If LS is town and we lynch him then town is pretty SoL. Being 5/3 or at best 6/2 going into D3 is going to suck. Even worse if the crusader gets picked off and takes a townie with him.

I'm not completly sold on it just yet, but I'm thinking it's pretty likely LS is scum at this juncture. (Shoutout to Waffel-Boy who couldn't be in this game). Mostly my read on him is based on his lack of reads despite having a large filter. I also thought his position on Dandel was strange going into EoD. He asked at one point if we thought Dandel was just trolling or was mafia. Rels posted a mafia case on Dandel well before EoD (when LS was around, but he ignored/missed it) then a few hours before EoD LS comes back calling Dandel trolly town. Other than that "read" I've only seen LS give opinions on Geript, Damdred, Rayn, and when pushed rather un-opinionated reads on myself and Fidei.

@ BM

This reminded me you asked me a questions about LS's long post about his Damdred read. I thought it was a pretty useless post, tbh. All he really did was pull a bunch of quotes from his filter and state what each was a response to. Was made even more useless since Vivax had just been asking him for reads, but then he goes and rehashed an old read like he was proving something.


Did you not see what I quoted first? I quoted the post about him saying my Damdred read didn't have much drive so I quoted all the stuff I had said about Damdred throughout the game at that point like are blind like a bat?
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September 20 2015 20:40 GMT
#1493
Okay guys who are not familar with my meta here some filters I want you guys to check from the database.
Games that similar in nature like this from my end:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/487093-mafia-in-the-himalayas?user=LightningStrike
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/488082-tl-mafia-lxxi-gaiden?user=LightningStrike
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/484076-assassination-mafia?user=LightningStrike
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/477800-vii-titanic-mini-mafia-i-have-a-cunning-plan?user=LightningStrike
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/481138-aperture-mafia-4-this-time-its-personal?user=LightningStrike
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/477216-horn-of-africa-mini-mafia?user=LightningStrike
Games I had been scum in:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/471489-student-mafia-iv-new-newish-players-welcome?user=LightningStrike
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/476732-jack-of-all-trades-mafia?user=LightningStrike
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/480042-tl-mafia-lxx-guardians-of-the-galaxy?user=LightningStrike
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/486363-witchcraft-mini-mafia-iii?user=LightningStrike
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September 20 2015 21:32 GMT
#1498
On September 21 2015 05:50 Half the Sky wrote:
Done with the game in question.

LS, my understanding is you are being lynched for strategic reasons (at least according to rayn) and nothing is going to stop that, judging from the votes.

I think your best bet is to find someone that is a higher probability of being scum than you are. Other than Damdred, I disagree with the lack of check, I get both sides of the story but assuming all the fallen thus far are town and Damdred is one of the three scum, who else is bad in your books?

Honestly James haven't done shit this entire Day phase and it kind bothering me now and plus earlier I had mention this but the person talks about the most was me and he got the highest % wise of filter of me over anyone else.
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September 20 2015 21:35 GMT
#1499
Also honestly I can't wait to work with Geript in the Angel QT whenever I die because at least I can prove him wrong about his read on me
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September 20 2015 22:07 GMT
#1502
On September 21 2015 06:55 Half the Sky wrote:
In your world, why does this make James a higher probability of being scum?

Well honestly he not been posting as much as I recalled him doing in Himalayas when he was mason with Tina plus scum love to defend townies all the time and he defended me the hardest(I think) and he didn't do much other than defend me. He seem to be much more detached to this game than I ever seen him as town but him being the other game bu the explanation for it so(shrugs)
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September 20 2015 22:42 GMT
#1510
On September 21 2015 07:40 Bill Murray wrote:
putting it on LS as a placeholder because im not risking not voting.
Will probably move my vote, but might not. Sorry LS.

At least I know I will be in a better place if I get lynched and actually talk with geript about who to angel save.
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September 20 2015 22:58 GMT
#1513
On September 21 2015 07:53 Bill Murray wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2015 03:06 Fecalfeast wrote:
I will sheep rayn in lieu of reading words

##deadlinevote ls

what do you mean here? (ff)

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On September 21 2015 03:06 Rels wrote:
You know what
I agree to lynch ls if the exorcist shoot bm

@ RELS (BUT EVERYONE NEEDS TO HEED THIS WARNING) ;( ........ i already told people NOT TO DO THIS. Geript did it and it was BAD PLAY
why the hell would you claim what role you're not? that's terrible !!!
Do you understand what souping is???
DO.NOT.CLAIM.WHAT.ROLE.YOU'RE.NOT


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On September 21 2015 03:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 21 2015 03:06 Rels wrote:
You know what
I agree to lynch ls if the exorcist shoot bm

I would prefer James but i don't really care about this game anymore. Maybe you are right but i am 90% sure BM is not mafia.

If people won't even try to understand why this thing must be played in a certain way when there are soup kills and mafia gets the roles of NK'd ppl then it's going to be impossible to win already.

OH AND RAYN CHIMES IN
THANKS FOR HELPING MAFIA GUYS

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On September 21 2015 03:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am going to try to say this once more.

The reason why Vivax claimed on D1 is because then people cannot hide behind claims and HAVE to play this game by just.. playing the game. There are people who do that as town, like Dandel. Apparently he didn't give any fucks and i hate it. And i know it's because he just.. .didn't give a shit because "he gets to shoot anyways". Which is idiotic. That role is one of the best roles lategame because it cannot be counterclaimed ever, otherwise you just die.

Well, LS has not played, at all. When geript died mafia got his role. Now LS claims the ONLY thing that he can basically ever claim as mafia. Because it can (and i believe mafia thinks it will) force out a counter claim. LS is going to die anyways if he doesn't claim and he knows that. If he claims he does the best thing for scum if someone counter-claims. Because then mafia can STILL soup two people. Vivax, and the claim.

Here is why the lynch is the best:
1) LS is mafia - obviously best scenario
2) LS is town and we lynch him - we know he is town because exorcist shoot someone, hopefully mafia (yes i am really sure James is mafia), on D3 -> D2/N2 there were 2 dead town, 1 dead mafia
3) LS is town and we do not lynch him -> we lynch mafia instead - On N2 mafia soups LS + Vivax. SAME FUCKING POSITION.
4) LS is town and we do not lynch him -> we lynch town - Exorcist shoots mafia. On N2 mafia soups LS + Vivax. WORSE FUCKING POSITION.
5) LS is town and we do not lynch him -> we lynch town - Exorcist shoots LS. On N2 mafia kills whoever. WORSE FUCKING POSITION.

The only scenario, even if we lynch mafia that is not LS, is WORSE/SAME than lynching him.
The only scenario which is BETTER is if we lynch him and is mafia.
IT IS THE BEST PLAY REGARDLESS OF HIS AFFILIATION.

there is only 1 problem with your plan, but i really can't say what it is right now

it's not really a problem, it's just slightly better scenario for us (in my opinion) and really is in regards to playstyle in general so it is semantic and doesn't have meaning to this conversation

Really excellent post, point, and sentiment, Rayn. Bravo. Glad I'm already voting LS because this is an S+ concept. Buy more wards, though :D

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On September 21 2015 03:21 LightningStrike wrote:
Not worries Rayn Geript and I forgive you and so will God

LMFAO

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On September 21 2015 03:34 Vivax wrote:
On September 21 2015 03:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Now i am gonna have a glass of Talisker Dark Stormand watch some Heroes.
Maybe i'll care to put some effort tomorrow.


[image loading]

LOL

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On September 21 2015 03:54 Fecalfeast wrote:
On September 21 2015 03:37 Half the Sky wrote:
On September 21 2015 03:06 Fecalfeast wrote:
I will sheep rayn in lieu of reading words

##deadlinevote ls


......

What do you make of Damdred?

Do you think (based on your last post and maybe what BM is saying) that Rels is being opportunistic?

Do you think he can reasonably be opportunistic when he's not really played with you in games before?

which post do you mean from me?

I don't think we should assume he is a green check and I think he is still on the table for lynch. I think the lack of a red check claim might buy him today but if he doesn't pick it up I don't care about implied cop checks

I feel like FecalFeast dodged the meat and bones of HtS's questions here... FF's response doesn't sit well with me. I can't put my finger on why, though.

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On September 21 2015 05:19 Tictock wrote:
On September 20 2015 20:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Tictock what happens if we lynch LS here and he is town? Your dumb post about the numbers makes no fucking sense at all.


I'm a little confused by this question.

My "numbers post" had nothing to do with LS, it was purely an attempt to make sure that a claim and soup kill today did not leave town in a shitty spot.

Why is my post dumb? There was 3 people who did the exact same type of post. What about mine in particular is dumb?

If LS is town and we lynch him then town is pretty SoL. Being 5/3 or at best 6/2 going into D3 is going to suck. Even worse if the crusader gets picked off and takes a townie with him.

I'm not completly sold on it just yet, but I'm thinking it's pretty likely LS is scum at this juncture. (Shoutout to Waffel-Boy who couldn't be in this game). Mostly my read on him is based on his lack of reads despite having a large filter. I also thought his position on Dandel was strange going into EoD. He asked at one point if we thought Dandel was just trolling or was mafia. Rels posted a mafia case on Dandel well before EoD (when LS was around, but he ignored/missed it) then a few hours before EoD LS comes back calling Dandel trolly town. Other than that "read" I've only seen LS give opinions on Geript, Damdred, Rayn, and when pushed rather un-opinionated reads on myself and Fidei.

@ BM

This reminded me you asked me a questions about LS's long post about his Damdred read. I thought it was a pretty useless post, tbh. All he really did was pull a bunch of quotes from his filter and state what each was a response to. Was made even more useless since Vivax had just been asking him for reads, but then he goes and rehashed an old read like he was proving something.


I forgot I asked you about that, but I'm glad you remembered.
I just thought it was odd, especially the fact he called it a long post. It was just a few short snippets of responses that felt discombobulated ... almost as if his teammate made the post for him. It didn't sound like an LS post in general... I'm going to go reread that. I'm glad you brought this up.

Vivax said my Damdred read had very little substance or something along those lines and I made that post explaining my position on Damdred throughout the game and why I thought the things I did during those posts.
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September 20 2015 23:00 GMT
#1515
But in all honesty it might be the best to lynch me so I can tell Geript how bad his read on me was and actually try to make hero plays with the Angel Saves Mechanics
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September 20 2015 23:03 GMT
#1520
On September 21 2015 08:01 Bill Murray wrote:
LS said"
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"Vivax said my Damdred read had very little substance or something along those lines and I made that post explaining my position on Damdred throughout the game and why I thought the things I did during those posts."


Well, in your defense, Damdred has had very little substance, low impact, and no energy So how could your case have a lot of substance, when there isn't anything to build it off of?

Because Damdred is normally very high substance, high impact, and lots of energy as town at least in my experience with playing with him and I been playing with him since the same time I started playing with Tina and HTS so I know him pretty well lol.
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September 20 2015 23:04 GMT
#1522
On September 21 2015 08:02 Bill Murray wrote:
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On September 21 2015 07:58 Bill Murray wrote:
On September 21 2015 07:42 LightningStrike wrote:
On September 21 2015 07:40 Bill Murray wrote:
putting it on LS as a placeholder because im not risking not voting.
Will probably move my vote, but might not. Sorry LS.

At least I know I will be in a better place if I get lynched and actually talk with geript about who to angel save.

this is a game, not real life; you're not going to heaven
if you wanna look at it that way, though, if you're really the pope, you should be happy with where you're at right now
.... all you can really do here as town is SCUMHUNT like i've said to do... like... go through pages 1-70... pick page 57 for example... and read through it trying to find whose words would have come from scum.

If you want a good idea to do, while doing that, that will help you, read what people are saying and try to not look at their names... just read the words that are being posted.... that way you aren't reading it like the person posted that and you're reading what they posted instead which would help you

if you do this for me ill unvote you and try to get other people to lynch someone else because im not as sure you're scum as everyone else is sure you're scum...

i really would like to give you 1 more day to see where you are at this game and put you on probation instead of sending you to the noose

Will you do that for me? go to pages Fifty Seven to Sixty and just read them and talk about 2 to 3 people that are scum. dont talk about who is town, talk about who is scum. dont give information about what they said so much as do analysis of why they are scum for saying it and what makes them scum for the motivation of doing it.


Will do but I don't think it will be worth it >.<
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September 20 2015 23:45 GMT
#1537
On September 21 2015 08:40 Half the Sky wrote:
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On September 21 2015 08:32 Bill Murray wrote:
gonna possible go see a movie ... taking a break from this either way... maybesome dota 2 ?


I'm on now, are you in the Steam group? Last round for me though.

I wouldn't mind playing Dota 2 with you I need a little bit of a break from reading the pages BM told me to read.
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September 21 2015 00:20 GMT
#1540
On September 21 2015 09:08 Bill Murray wrote:
play with me LS :D whats ur name on there?

Stardom lol.
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September 21 2015 11:29 GMT
#1578
Rayn can you promise me something?
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September 21 2015 11:33 GMT
#1581
On September 21 2015 20:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On September 21 2015 20:29 LightningStrike wrote:
Rayn can you promise me something?

No i can't.
You have to understand if you are town your play has been terribly sub-par this game and whatever you say here the best play is to lynch you, even if you are town.

So there is that, make cases on mafia if you are not mafia - instead of posting all kinds of bullshit.
Sorry but that's the truth.

Why don't people just fucking play the game??

Can you lynch Damdred or have the exorcist kill Damdred and lynch into James and other players that you think are mafia? Also post game can you drink 3 shots of Fireball Whiskey when you see my alignment as town?
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September 21 2015 11:42 GMT
#1584
On September 21 2015 20:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Now can you do something productive?
I am gonna go read filters.

Well here a question that I know might going to be a hot topic later on: What you think BM vs Rels arguements from Page 57 to now?
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September 21 2015 14:18 GMT
#1643
Okay Rayn I saw you're answer I actually agree that it more likely town on town I just wanted your opinion on it because it might cause issues later in the game imo. Oh btw mandatory Town Puppy picture for the game:
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September 21 2015 14:20 GMT
#1650
Rolf when I made my post I didn't read the game so I see you think Rels is now scum o.o
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September 21 2015 15:23 GMT
#1689
I willing to consolidate on Ticktock if the plan today is to not lynch me but I would prefer a James or Damdred lynch more honestly.
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September 21 2015 16:33 GMT
#1716
Man I don't get why people think that Geript would never visit me like I know it's a rare chance but he actually did vist me Idk why he did visit me out of all people but he did vist me end of story.
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September 21 2015 16:34 GMT
#1717
Anyways I leaving for reading class have fun guys.
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September 21 2015 17:26 GMT
#1723
Okay I got some time before class. Exercist please at least shoot James because everyone including me think's mafia and he should be shot if you guys end up lynching me today. This will be my only post before class.
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September 21 2015 19:10 GMT
#1767
HTS I will address the RNG thing I talked about in my post about Geript: I couldn't tell by the wording if he can visit people himself via telling the host who he want to visit or if it's RNG based like a wondering townie. It' a bit odd for Geript to visit me but he did idk what made him choose to go to me at the end but he did and I know he going to have a lot of explaining to do with me in the angel qt if I die either lynched or souped and he will explain post game to you guys. I will be here EoD just at College waiting for my dad to pick me up so I will be here for a bit.
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September 21 2015 19:16 GMT
#1770
You know what whether HTS likes it or not I will tell you guys about her OGI she was referring to earlier in the game I completely just thought of it just now: When I was trying to cohost with her on her large themed game I told her I was going to college and let her know if I can still cohost for her so after I did get my schedule for my classes, I found out I can still Cohost for her so I told her that I can still cohost for her for that game. That why she believed me when I said I taking a reading class(missed the TSI by 5 whole points T_T) so ya I actually working on my reading for my first semester.
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September 21 2015 19:23 GMT
#1777
Shoot or lynch James imo but I willing to get lynched as long you guys kill James, Ticktock, and or Damdred with the exorcist kill you have to promise that so I can vote for myself to hammer myself to make sure you guys catch scum.
Damdred: Self explained in my entire filter.
James: Self explained in my filter in the later pages when people asked who was scum outside of Damdred.
Ticktock: I sheeping HTS on her meta read where he pushes scummy townies to death which he doing this game plus in my PoE he was the last one I had since I had him null.
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September 21 2015 19:26 GMT
#1780
On September 22 2015 04:21 Rels wrote:
Especially since BM confirmed Damdred is scum, whatever his alignement is.

Where did BM said he got a red check on Damdred? I don't recall BM saying he had a red check on Damdred.
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September 21 2015 19:45 GMT
#1797
On September 22 2015 04:33 Rels wrote:
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On September 22 2015 04:26 Rels wrote:
Maybe lynching LS is the way to go

It was a joke BTW LS p: 'cause you missed an obvious post
even if I really think lynching you is a viable option

Sorry I can't read sarcasm well so ofc I went full Romanian
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September 21 2015 19:48 GMT
#1798
On September 22 2015 04:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
okay, still this:

Damdred / LS / TT / James / BM

can you give scenarios that are impossible for three of them to be mafia in?
I think you are better then i am in this rn as i have not really read the thread properly when i was away (i blame rsoultin ^^).

Why blame Tina when she isn't in the game you meanie
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September 21 2015 19:52 GMT
#1800
On September 22 2015 04:49 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On September 22 2015 04:48 LightningStrike wrote:
On September 22 2015 04:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
okay, still this:

Damdred / LS / TT / James / BM

can you give scenarios that are impossible for three of them to be mafia in?
I think you are better then i am in this rn as i have not really read the thread properly when i was away (i blame rsoultin ^^).

Why blame Tina when she isn't in the game you meanie

because "she is the reason" i did not have internet access until friday
and even then shitty phone only.

How is she the reason you didn't have internet access till Friday? Unless she turned into a god she can't mess with your internet access.
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September 21 2015 19:56 GMT
#1803
On September 22 2015 04:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I was talking with her on skype while waiting to board on the ship and at some point i am like "fuck i gotta go i have like 10min left" and obviously i forgot my backpack into the bar i was atm. So i didn't have a charger to my phone NOR did i have my laptop or tablet... Battery ran out and ggnore until i got to Stockholm and found a place to buy a charger.

And still only phone until i got back to Hki on saturday.

bad Tina bad.
obviously not my fault.

No it's your fault because you should of remembered
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September 21 2015 20:37 GMT
#1848
On September 22 2015 05:36 Half the Sky wrote:
I am the sixth vote, so you have your six btw.
I think I have roughly an hour before I'm pulled away by the husband again.

Is he going force to play LoL that why he pulling you away in a hour?
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September 21 2015 20:38 GMT
#1849
On September 22 2015 05:37 LightningStrike wrote:
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On September 22 2015 05:36 Half the Sky wrote:
I am the sixth vote, so you have your six btw.
I think I have roughly an hour before I'm pulled away by the husband again.

Is he going force you to play LoL that why he pulling you away in a hour?

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September 21 2015 20:53 GMT
#1878
On September 22 2015 05:51 Half the Sky wrote:
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On September 22 2015 05:45 Fecalfeast wrote:
rayn are you mafia with HTS and steamrolling this shit? I've got tinfoil syndrome real bad


You'd need a shittonne of tinfoil to justify that...

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September 21 2015 21:09 GMT
#1897
Honestly the people that I haven't said who to shoot are town in case you guys are confused on that mostly for meta on the majority of the people. Rels I never played with him but he seemed pretty genuine about his stuff but his TT read might needs to fixed.
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September 21 2015 21:17 GMT
#1909
On September 22 2015 06:11 Rels wrote:
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On September 22 2015 06:09 LightningStrike wrote:
Honestly the people that I haven't said who to shoot are town in case you guys are confused on that mostly for meta on the majority of the people. Rels I never played with him but he seemed pretty genuine about his stuff but his TT read might needs to fixed.

yo LS
You're not getting lynched atm, though it could still happen if Damdred starts being super townie
do you still want to lynch Damdred ? Or someone else ?

Him or James or TT. Any of those three.
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September 21 2015 21:24 GMT
#1915
On September 22 2015 06:18 Rels wrote:
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On September 22 2015 06:18 Rels wrote:
Hts does damdred meta read makes sense ?

LS same question

Damdred knows that I don't get angry at people as scum but yet he still thinks I can fake my anger? Plus the fact he said I had no reads? Sigh I thought it was clear my reads were people I want to lynch was scum and town are the ones I don't want to lynch so ofc I haven't exactly said my reads because of that. He had seen me almost get modkilled in HTS's game(Himalayas) and yet he forgot how I act when I get scumread. Either he focused to much on sex or scum idk which imo.
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September 21 2015 21:32 GMT
#1919
On September 22 2015 06:27 Rels wrote:
Why do you think this if you're sure damdred is lying about you then:
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On September 22 2015 06:17 LightningStrike wrote:
On September 22 2015 06:11 Rels wrote:
On September 22 2015 06:09 LightningStrike wrote:
Honestly the people that I haven't said who to shoot are town in case you guys are confused on that mostly for meta on the majority of the people. Rels I never played with him but he seemed pretty genuine about his stuff but his TT read might needs to fixed.

yo LS
You're not getting lynched atm, though it could still happen if Damdred starts being super townie
do you still want to lynch Damdred ? Or someone else ?

Him or James or TT. Any of those three.

Damdred should be above the other two in this list ?

Yes.
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September 21 2015 21:36 GMT
#1924
On September 22 2015 06:33 Half the Sky wrote:
LS is the bolded true?

I had asked for tips in the past but not that much at all recently because sometimes I had figured my mistake because ego problems and stuff.
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September 21 2015 21:39 GMT
#1930
On September 22 2015 06:35 Bill Murray wrote:
i have food poisoning... dont expect the activity i just had yesterday, today

Man that sucks man I hope you get better ASAP!
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September 21 2015 21:41 GMT
#1934
HTS do you mind if I had posted about the OGI stuff that you didn't finish talking about?
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September 21 2015 21:44 GMT
#1941
On September 22 2015 06:42 Tictock wrote:
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On September 22 2015 05:02 Rels wrote:
On September 22 2015 04:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Also Rels, are you 100% certain LS is town?

I obsed Himalayas, and in that game rsoultin used as a reasonning LS was town since he was unable to lie.
HTS and you used the same reasonning this game.
So unless he broke his meta completely, he's town.
Plus that geript bit is bothering me. Why the fuck would he lie about that. Reading the OP, it's not actually clear the wraith haunts someone the night the are killed. I checked that 'cause I found it weird, and it's not written on the role description.


Holy shit this, I didn't even think about that. Geript wasn't dead till daypost how could he have haunted LS?

Because the host said he can? Ya it little ironic that he visisted me the night he died but :|
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September 21 2015 21:54 GMT
#1957
DAMDRED IS LIAR LYNCH WITH FIRE!
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September 21 2015 21:55 GMT
#1962
LIKE SERIOUSLY WHY WAS HE QUESTIONING ABOUT ME WHEN HE AD A RED CHECK? HE's FULL OF SHIT.
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September 21 2015 21:57 GMT
#1974
Lastwil for mel: Lnych Damdred, Lynch James, Lynch TT Damdred because is A FUCKING LIAR HE DOESN'T HAVE A RED CHECK ON ME.
James: Check my filter.
TT: Check my filter.
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September 22 2015 23:28 GMT
#1992
No one even got killed o.o Jesus I not going to defend myself for another 72 hours......
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September 23 2015 02:36 GMT
#2003
I find it odd too that they rather they use their KP over Soup when kills 2. Again I really don't want to defend myself for 72 hours....
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September 23 2015 12:41 GMT
#2031
On September 23 2015 21:12 Fidei86 wrote:
The thing I don't follow in TickTock's filter is that he makes a big post (#1712) saying why he thinks LS is mafia. It looks like he put a lot of work into it, but if you read it closely it focuses mostly on LS's claim, rather than the substance of his reads or his thought progression. In fact, TT prefaces his post with "I know that it's frustrating to get scumread, but...". And this is LS we're talking about - he fake claims as town so often it was the upgrade target for ruxx in Personality Mafia.

Okay, fine. But then he moves onto Damdred, without really expressing strong feelings on him (#1918). Also weirdly, as an aside, wasn't it TT who led the 'Inquisitor shouldn't claim a red check' faction on D2? Because he then says: "Though I'm not sure what caused people to move away from the idea that he was probbly green checked." Wouldn't that be because you argued that people shouldn't necessarily claim a red check, meaning that Rels' plan of check - no red claim - green plan never really took effect?

Ugh I only fake claimed once and that was Himalayas fyi lol.
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September 23 2015 17:28 GMT
#2070
I just going to let you guys know that I about to head to class and will be home by 9:15ish pm CST I did read some of the stuff will comment when I get home.
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September 24 2015 22:30 GMT
#2131
Honestly I just got home and man that hammer on BM was super bad idk what the fuck were you guys thinking of lynching him...... Also I figured Damdred was scum and was right on him since Day 1
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September 24 2015 22:32 GMT
#2134
Also the LS rule is actually decent this game it was 50-50 on Rels and TT who both pushed me and only Rels was scum lol. TT seemed like a odd ball town like me lol.
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#2141
Also I found it funny I was able to pinpoint 2 mafias while under pressure just couldn't find the 3rd GG WP Rels.
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September 24 2015 22:37 GMT
#2143
On September 25 2015 07:36 Tictock wrote:
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On September 25 2015 07:30 LightningStrike wrote:
Honestly I just got home and man that hammer on BM was super bad idk what the fuck were you guys thinking of lynching him...... Also I figured Damdred was scum and was right on him since Day 1


Yep gj on your one read! Lol

Why on why did you claim as Pope LS? Lol

Guess I shoulda trusted more in HtS's meta.

I thought I would of gotten lynch honestly so that why I claimed. If it wasn't for the claim we wouldn't of lynched Damdred honestly.
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September 24 2015 22:43 GMT
#2150
Also ntoe to self: I need to trust my own reads more esp on my own scumreads since I generally can catch 2 mafias myself.
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September 24 2015 22:46 GMT
#2154
On September 25 2015 07:44 Tictock wrote:
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On September 25 2015 07:37 LightningStrike wrote:
On September 25 2015 07:36 Tictock wrote:
On September 25 2015 07:30 LightningStrike wrote:
Honestly I just got home and man that hammer on BM was super bad idk what the fuck were you guys thinking of lynching him...... Also I figured Damdred was scum and was right on him since Day 1


Yep gj on your one read! Lol

Why on why did you claim as Pope LS? Lol

Guess I shoulda trusted more in HtS's meta.

I thought I would of gotten lynch honestly so that why I claimed. If it wasn't for the claim we wouldn't of lynched Damdred honestly.


Fair enough, you might be right. Though I think I was sorta townreading you before that claim. The claim threw me, mostly kus it was weird that geript visited you N1 after scum reading you but also kus the wording on that role isn't super clear.

@ Geript

Actually why did you visit him after scum reading him pretty hard? Some kinda percentage play?

I think he thought I was the pope on a off chance and he didn't want to say it out loud in the thread lol.
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#2158
BTW Geript please explain why you actually visited me instead of Rayn? We all curious.
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#2166
Well I just saw the Angel QT: He thought I was the pope for some reason lol. Then he thought I was fake claiming it later lol but I guess Geript didn't read the op that the Pope will know if the Wandering Wraith visits him lol.
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#2171
BTW sorry for my bad pope claim I honestly really thought I would of gotten lynched Day 2 if it wasn't for my claim
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September 24 2015 23:02 GMT
#2181
Rayn would you listen to me if we are both town together in future games?
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September 24 2015 23:04 GMT
#2183
On September 25 2015 08:02 Damdred wrote:
It was a fun fake I wish busy hadn't hit me,when,it did.

Though idk why Ls had a scum read on me shouldn't of really had such a strong read on me for,nothing. Shrug.

Your content was really bad and your attitude towards me in terms thinking I was scum without you explaining the scumread was so similar to our last game together in Gaiden lol.
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#2187
On September 25 2015 08:05 Damdred wrote:
I never scum read you though that's why it was so bad. You totally ignored the context of what was going on shrug.

You said you would lynch me but you didn't say any reason why you would lynch me....... It was similar to how you called me scum in Gaiden asking why I had rolled scum. Like seriously it felt like the same attitude in both Gaiden and here lol.
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September 24 2015 23:10 GMT
#2192
On September 25 2015 08:09 Damdred wrote:
That's still ignoring context though and what's going on. I followed up for reasons in gaiden I town read you here. And rayn said pressure you silly Ls.

My goal when I got lynched was try to get the acolyte to tip his hand to make sure, and ff was pretty obvious.

Ya but much later than you normally would of as town though. You townread me later though but then swapped the townread 180 on the claim alone and you know I never claimed a power role as mafia yet so ya....
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United States14276 Posts
September 24 2015 23:17 GMT
#2205
If anyone want to talk about the game outside of the thread I can be on TS all night
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14276 Posts
September 25 2015 01:54 GMT
#2219
Also here is the proof that Geript did visit me since it's post game now:
Original Message From Palmar:
You were visite by the wandering wraith. His name is geript!

Still found it weird he thought I was the pope but yet scumread me in the thread but I guess it was for my safety.
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14276 Posts
September 25 2015 12:37 GMT
#2227
On September 25 2015 17:08 Rels wrote:
@geript
Was there a breadcrumb hidden in that ?
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On September 15 2015 07:04 geript wrote:
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HELP WANTED
Looking for experienced interrogator.
Questioning, not required only
experience in torture. For job as
Pope's primary inquisitor, please
inquire at Witch's Pond.


Ya upon looking at it closer it's a breadcrumb of him being the Wandering Wraith.
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14276 Posts
September 25 2015 12:39 GMT
#2228
On September 25 2015 14:00 geript wrote:
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On September 25 2015 10:54 LightningStrike wrote:
Also here is the proof that Geript did visit me since it's post game now:
Original Message From Palmar:
You were visite by the wandering wraith. His name is geript!

Still found it weird he thought I was the pope but yet scumread me in the thread but I guess it was for my safety.

I thought you might be pope from your reaction early and wanted to get my read down.

I see. Well you said I Wasn't the Popfor some reason was it because Shining and Dandel being there?
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14276 Posts
September 25 2015 15:09 GMT
#2231
On September 26 2015 00:05 geript wrote:
It's not a crumb. I want trying to get reads off it.

Re: ls that post was before you claimed my visit.

True it was before your visit thought it was a crumb post game. Meh.
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