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On September 21 2015 20:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2015 20:29 LightningStrike wrote:
Rayn can you promise me something? No i can't. You have to understand if you are town your play has been terribly sub-par this game and whatever you say here the best play is to lynch you, even if you are town. So there is that, make cases on mafia if you are not mafia - instead of posting all kinds of bullshit. Sorry but that's the truth. Why don't people just fucking play the game??
Can you lynch Damdred or have the exorcist kill Damdred and lynch into James and other players that you think are mafia? Also post game can you drink 3 shots of Fireball Whiskey when you see my alignment as town?
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No to the last thing. I don't fault myself lynching people who played bad.
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Now can you do something productive?
I am gonna go read filters.
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On September 21 2015 20:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Now can you do something productive?
I am gonna go read filters.
Well here a question that I know might going to be a hot topic later on: What you think BM vs Rels arguements from Page 57 to now?
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Okay so it seems like Tictock has absolutely zero reads on D2.
He isn't discussing anything that is related to scumhunting.
Probs scum.
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On September 21 2015 20:42 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2015 20:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Now can you do something productive?
I am gonna go read filters. Well here a question that I know might going to be a hot topic later on: What you think BM vs Rels arguements from Page 57 to now?
both town.
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Not to mention his D1 was really really out of place.
Like he ends the day with a big case on why LS is mafia, has no idea why Dandel would be mafia (no, he doesn't even comment on the cases - just says Rels' case is "good", then ends up making a case on LS - but then ends up voting for Dandel).
idk, it doesn't make any sense to me.
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I'm really sorry to all for being AFK these last couple of days. I realise that it's unacceptable and poor form. I'm just sneaking on at lunch now to post. All my spare mafia time has been taken up with Newbie XIV, where everything has gotten pretty weird.
I think I'm about 25 pages or so behind, and I just won't be able to catch up before EON, probably. I'll do my best. Sorry :-(
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I can't Fecalfeast being mafia. The only thing that bothers me in his filter is that there is kinda no mention of James anywhere. I don't know how he can construct a scumteam of three people without James in it.
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Fuck Rels why did you have to push Dandel... *sigh*
This game got so hard because of it...
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James is so fucking mafia. So so mafia.
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On September 21 2015 21:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
James is so fucking mafia. So so mafia.
I'm mildly open to the idea but going to need a quick recap of reasons, didn't really feel that strongly about him being anything when reading. He was quite talkative about a lot of things.
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The things he said don't really say anything. And a couple of more things.
Like compare to any game he has ever played before.
I can put up a case soon.
I need to shower first.
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Anyways here is what i have said already:
On September 20 2015 20:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On September 16 2015 08:28 Fidei86 wrote:
- I think Lightning Strike is town, and I think the early push on him was suspect. I don't know how any of you can be surprised that LS says stuff that doesn't add up early on. He's done that in every game I've seen him in, and he's also basically like that in voice. The way that he responded to Rels at his post #362 (basically "I'm not talking to you any more") felt very genuine, and exactly how I'd expect angsty town LS to respond. this read doesn't make any sense at all because this is not what LS is doing. LS is not being "incomprehensible". LS just plain out refuses to answer simple questions, and not for once or twise, but EVERY time. Show nested quote +- I think the person who comes out from the LS push looking the worst is TT. At his post #218 he basically says that LS is a "fine lynch", but his reasons are just re-hashes of what other people have posted earlier. He then takes it back at (#473) after others already had. I also think his town reads of Rayn, Rels and Vivax feel a little ... safe. I think thread sentiment is all pretty set on those three already, for pretty obvious reasons. When TT was mafia in HG he felt like he was always on the right side of every argument, and so far he reminds me of this. this read doesn't make any sense. for several reasons. It is an assumption that LS is town. Okay, it kinda makes sense, but then look at what he says about HtS?!?!?!?! The opposite. HtS comes off looking town because she is wrong on LS (and knows LS way better than TT does). roflskates. Also look at the bolded part. "TT is mafia because he reads obvious townies (that everyone else also reads) town". ROFL! SERIOUSLY?!?! Show nested quote +I don't have a good handle on geript, TS (whose thread entry got a lot of talk, but which seemed pretty NAI to me) and FF. HTS is playing the same as the last two games we played together (when she was town). Her reason to scum me look genuine enough (if wrong, lol), and her read evolutions on LS and BM look natural. I think she's probably a town read, but I'm pretty sure when she does roll scum she'll fool me. "I think she is town but i wouldn't know if she was scum." Yeah dude great read.
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Preferred lynches tonight (in order)
1 Damdred
2 James (Fidei)
3 LS ("aka the plan")
I strongly prefer 1, with a gap between that and #2 and an even larger gap between that and #3.
I mean the play in lynching LS is to prevent the soup kill correct? Lemme check the post....
D2 in general was quite unproductive tbf rayn, it was the weekend. You were in Sweden, others had other things going on. I myself had a window of maybe 3 hours maximum that I could play on the entire weekend.
At least BM is probably not mafia. Didn't get around to checking Tictock though.
I can directly vouch for Fidei's absence Friday night - I was playing dota with him, then, until 3am fact. Saturday he had sport all day, IDK.
I'm just saying RL commitments are NAI. The only thing I'd judge him on would be Sunday night where he prioritises a game that is in 2:1 lylo over here.
The main reason I'd lynch into him is what I do know about his hesitation to play mafia, the fact that I've read most others here as town, barring 1-2 I could be wrong on (previously stated).
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On September 21 2015 03:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am going to try to say this once more.
The reason why Vivax claimed on D1 is because then people cannot hide behind claims and HAVE to play this game by just.. playing the game. There are people who do that as town, like Dandel. Apparently he didn't give any fucks and i hate it. And i know it's because he just.. .didn't give a shit because "he gets to shoot anyways". Which is idiotic. That role is one of the best roles lategame because it cannot be counterclaimed ever, otherwise you just die.
Well, LS has not played, at all. When geript died mafia got his role. Now LS claims the ONLY thing that he can basically ever claim as mafia. Because it can (and i believe mafia thinks it will) force out a counter claim. LS is going to die anyways if he doesn't claim and he knows that. If he claims he does the best thing for scum if someone counter-claims. Because then mafia can STILL soup two people. Vivax, and the claim.
Here is why the lynch is the best:
1) LS is mafia - obviously best scenario
2) LS is town and we lynch him - we know he is town because exorcist shoot someone, hopefully mafia (yes i am really sure James is mafia), on D3 -> D2/N2 there were 2 dead town, 1 dead mafia
3) LS is town and we do not lynch him -> we lynch mafia instead - On N2 mafia soups LS + Vivax. SAME FUCKING POSITION.
4) LS is town and we do not lynch him -> we lynch town - Exorcist shoots mafia. On N2 mafia soups LS + Vivax. WORSE FUCKING POSITION.
5) LS is town and we do not lynch him -> we lynch town - Exorcist shoots LS. On N2 mafia kills whoever. WORSE FUCKING POSITION.
The only scenario, even if we lynch mafia that is not LS, is WORSE/SAME than lynching him.
The only scenario which is BETTER is if we lynch him and is mafia.
IT IS THE BEST PLAY REGARDLESS OF HIS AFFILIATION.
For reference.
Alright, I think I get it now though. So you do want to prevent the soup kill at the least.
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I placed my vote on Damdred for now. If we are shy of votes for "the plan" on LS, then I'll consolidate on him.
Need to attend to work here, but next break I get (or worst case, when I get off work) going to prioritise Tictock.
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On September 21 2015 17:06 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2015 07:04 Damdred wrote:
Hi friend sim back just now will be catching up here and posting some as I read WTF This is Damdred's only post in D2
Yeah....that was the main reason for my Jeopardy post. I posted that 1h after he posted his catch up post. I know he's US so was hoping he might have posted something after I went to bed....but no he didn't.
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On September 21 2015 22:09 Half the Sky wrote:
Preferred lynches tonight (in order)
1 Damdred
2 James (Fidei)
3 LS ("aka the plan")
I strongly prefer 1, with a gap between that and #2 and an even larger gap between that and #3.
I mean the play in lynching LS is to prevent the soup kill correct? Lemme check the post....
D2 in general was quite unproductive tbf rayn, it was the weekend. You were in Sweden, others had other things going on. I myself had a window of maybe 3 hours maximum that I could play on the entire weekend.
At least BM is probably not mafia. Didn't get around to checking Tictock though.
I can directly vouch for Fidei's absence Friday night - I was playing dota with him, then, until 3am fact. Saturday he had sport all day, IDK.
I'm just saying RL commitments are NAI. The only thing I'd judge him on would be Sunday night where he prioritises a game that is in 2:1 lylo over here.
The main reason I'd lynch into him is what I do know about his hesitation to play mafia, the fact that I've read most others here as town, barring 1-2 I could be wrong on (previously stated).
I am not saying he is mafia because of his absence.
I am saying he is mafia because of what he has posted when he has posted, which pretty much says nothing despite there being many words. Like can you understand him saying "i think HtS is town but she could easily fool me if she was mafia"!??!?!? Like what is the point of saying so and how can he possibly read you as town if he thinks you could easily be mafia aswell?
The timing of his last post was a coincidence because i just finished reading his filter when i posted after.
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On September 21 2015 22:09 Half the Sky wrote:
3 LS ("aka the plan")
LOL
That is a fucking good name for a plan
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EPT
