• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 05:11
CET 11:11
KST 19:11
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners12Intel X Team Liquid Seoul event: Showmatches and Meet the Pros10
Community News
RSL Season 3: RO16 results & RO8 bracket13Weekly Cups (Nov 10-16): Reynor, Solar lead Zerg surge1[TLMC] Fall/Winter 2025 Ladder Map Rotation14Weekly Cups (Nov 3-9): Clem Conquers in Canada4SC: Evo Complete - Ranked Ladder OPEN ALPHA12
StarCraft 2
General
RSL Season 3: RO16 results & RO8 bracket SC: Evo Complete - Ranked Ladder OPEN ALPHA RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview Mech is the composition that needs teleportation t GM / Master map hacker and general hacking and cheating thread
Tourneys
RSL Revival: Season 3 $5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship StarCraft Evolution League (SC Evo Biweekly) Constellation Cup - Main Event - Stellar Fest 2025 RSL Offline Finals Dates + Ticket Sales!
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 500 Fright night Mutation # 499 Chilling Adaptation Mutation # 498 Wheel of Misfortune|Cradle of Death Mutation # 497 Battle Haredened
Brood War
General
Data analysis on 70 million replays A cwal.gg Extension - Easily keep track of anyone soO on: FanTaSy's Potential Return to StarCraft [ASL20] Ask the mapmakers — Drop your questions FlaSh on: Biggest Problem With SnOw's Playstyle
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues Small VOD Thread 2.0 [BSL21] GosuLeague T1 Ro16 - Tue & Thu 22:00 CET [BSL21] RO16 Tie Breaker - Group B - Sun 21:00 CET
Strategy
Current Meta Game Theory for Starcraft How to stay on top of macro? PvZ map balance
Other Games
General Games
Clair Obscur - Expedition 33 Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread EVE Corporation Path of Exile [Game] Osu!
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread The Games Industry And ATVI Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine About SC2SEA.COM
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread Korean Music Discussion
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion NBA General Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023 TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
The Health Impact of Joining…
TrAiDoS
Dyadica Evangelium — Chapt…
Hildegard
Saturation point
Uldridge
DnB/metal remix FFO Mick Go…
ImbaTosS
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 2253 users

Season of the Witch 2 - Page 80

Forum Index > TL Mafia
Post a Reply
Prev 1 78 79 80 81 82 113 Next
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
September 21 2015 11:33 GMT
#1581
On September 21 2015 20:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2015 20:29 LightningStrike wrote:
Rayn can you promise me something?

No i can't.
You have to understand if you are town your play has been terribly sub-par this game and whatever you say here the best play is to lynch you, even if you are town.

So there is that, make cases on mafia if you are not mafia - instead of posting all kinds of bullshit.
Sorry but that's the truth.

Why don't people just fucking play the game??

Can you lynch Damdred or have the exorcist kill Damdred and lynch into James and other players that you think are mafia? Also post game can you drink 3 shots of Fireball Whiskey when you see my alignment as town?
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 21 2015 11:39 GMT
#1582
No to the last thing. I don't fault myself lynching people who played bad.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 21 2015 11:40 GMT
#1583
Now can you do something productive?
I am gonna go read filters.
table for two on a tv tray
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
September 21 2015 11:42 GMT
#1584
On September 21 2015 20:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Now can you do something productive?
I am gonna go read filters.

Well here a question that I know might going to be a hot topic later on: What you think BM vs Rels arguements from Page 57 to now?
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 21 2015 11:48 GMT
#1585
Okay so it seems like Tictock has absolutely zero reads on D2.
He isn't discussing anything that is related to scumhunting.
Probs scum.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 21 2015 11:48 GMT
#1586
On September 21 2015 20:42 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2015 20:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Now can you do something productive?
I am gonna go read filters.

Well here a question that I know might going to be a hot topic later on: What you think BM vs Rels arguements from Page 57 to now?

both town.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 21 2015 11:51 GMT
#1587
Not to mention his D1 was really really out of place.

Like he ends the day with a big case on why LS is mafia, has no idea why Dandel would be mafia (no, he doesn't even comment on the cases - just says Rels' case is "good", then ends up making a case on LS - but then ends up voting for Dandel).

idk, it doesn't make any sense to me.
table for two on a tv tray
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
September 21 2015 11:56 GMT
#1588
I'm really sorry to all for being AFK these last couple of days. I realise that it's unacceptable and poor form. I'm just sneaking on at lunch now to post. All my spare mafia time has been taken up with Newbie XIV, where everything has gotten pretty weird.

I think I'm about 25 pages or so behind, and I just won't be able to catch up before EON, probably. I'll do my best. Sorry :-(
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 21 2015 11:58 GMT
#1589
I can't Fecalfeast being mafia. The only thing that bothers me in his filter is that there is kinda no mention of James anywhere. I don't know how he can construct a scumteam of three people without James in it.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 21 2015 12:08 GMT
#1590
Fuck Rels why did you have to push Dandel... *sigh*
This game got so hard because of it...
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 21 2015 12:13 GMT
#1591
James is so fucking mafia. So so mafia.
table for two on a tv tray
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22091 Posts
September 21 2015 12:19 GMT
#1592
On September 21 2015 21:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
James is so fucking mafia. So so mafia.


I'm mildly open to the idea but going to need a quick recap of reasons, didn't really feel that strongly about him being anything when reading. He was quite talkative about a lot of things.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 21 2015 12:47 GMT
#1593
The things he said don't really say anything. And a couple of more things.
Like compare to any game he has ever played before.
I can put up a case soon.

I need to shower first.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 21 2015 12:51 GMT
#1594
Anyways here is what i have said already:
On September 20 2015 20:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2015 08:28 Fidei86 wrote:
- I think Lightning Strike is town, and I think the early push on him was suspect. I don't know how any of you can be surprised that LS says stuff that doesn't add up early on. He's done that in every game I've seen him in, and he's also basically like that in voice. The way that he responded to Rels at his post #362 (basically "I'm not talking to you any more") felt very genuine, and exactly how I'd expect angsty town LS to respond.

this read doesn't make any sense at all because this is not what LS is doing.
LS is not being "incomprehensible". LS just plain out refuses to answer simple questions, and not for once or twise, but EVERY time.

Show nested quote +
- I think the person who comes out from the LS push looking the worst is TT. At his post #218 he basically says that LS is a "fine lynch", but his reasons are just re-hashes of what other people have posted earlier. He then takes it back at (#473) after others already had. I also think his town reads of Rayn, Rels and Vivax feel a little ... safe. I think thread sentiment is all pretty set on those three already, for pretty obvious reasons. When TT was mafia in HG he felt like he was always on the right side of every argument, and so far he reminds me of this.

this read doesn't make any sense. for several reasons. It is an assumption that LS is town. Okay, it kinda makes sense, but then look at what he says about HtS?!?!?!?! The opposite. HtS comes off looking town because she is wrong on LS (and knows LS way better than TT does). roflskates. Also look at the bolded part. "TT is mafia because he reads obvious townies (that everyone else also reads) town". ROFL! SERIOUSLY?!?!

Show nested quote +
I don't have a good handle on geript, TS (whose thread entry got a lot of talk, but which seemed pretty NAI to me) and FF. HTS is playing the same as the last two games we played together (when she was town). Her reason to scum me look genuine enough (if wrong, lol), and her read evolutions on LS and BM look natural. I think she's probably a town read, but I'm pretty sure when she does roll scum she'll fool me.

"I think she is town but i wouldn't know if she was scum."
Yeah dude great read.

table for two on a tv tray
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
September 21 2015 13:09 GMT
#1595
Preferred lynches tonight (in order)

1 Damdred
2 James (Fidei)
3 LS ("aka the plan")

I strongly prefer 1, with a gap between that and #2 and an even larger gap between that and #3.
I mean the play in lynching LS is to prevent the soup kill correct? Lemme check the post....

D2 in general was quite unproductive tbf rayn, it was the weekend. You were in Sweden, others had other things going on. I myself had a window of maybe 3 hours maximum that I could play on the entire weekend.

At least BM is probably not mafia. Didn't get around to checking Tictock though.

I can directly vouch for Fidei's absence Friday night - I was playing dota with him, then, until 3am fact. Saturday he had sport all day, IDK.

I'm just saying RL commitments are NAI. The only thing I'd judge him on would be Sunday night where he prioritises a game that is in 2:1 lylo over here.

The main reason I'd lynch into him is what I do know about his hesitation to play mafia, the fact that I've read most others here as town, barring 1-2 I could be wrong on (previously stated).
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
September 21 2015 13:10 GMT
#1596
On September 21 2015 03:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am going to try to say this once more.

The reason why Vivax claimed on D1 is because then people cannot hide behind claims and HAVE to play this game by just.. playing the game. There are people who do that as town, like Dandel. Apparently he didn't give any fucks and i hate it. And i know it's because he just.. .didn't give a shit because "he gets to shoot anyways". Which is idiotic. That role is one of the best roles lategame because it cannot be counterclaimed ever, otherwise you just die.

Well, LS has not played, at all. When geript died mafia got his role. Now LS claims the ONLY thing that he can basically ever claim as mafia. Because it can (and i believe mafia thinks it will) force out a counter claim. LS is going to die anyways if he doesn't claim and he knows that. If he claims he does the best thing for scum if someone counter-claims. Because then mafia can STILL soup two people. Vivax, and the claim.

Here is why the lynch is the best:
1) LS is mafia - obviously best scenario
2) LS is town and we lynch him - we know he is town because exorcist shoot someone, hopefully mafia (yes i am really sure James is mafia), on D3 -> D2/N2 there were 2 dead town, 1 dead mafia
3) LS is town and we do not lynch him -> we lynch mafia instead - On N2 mafia soups LS + Vivax. SAME FUCKING POSITION.
4) LS is town and we do not lynch him -> we lynch town - Exorcist shoots mafia. On N2 mafia soups LS + Vivax. WORSE FUCKING POSITION.
5) LS is town and we do not lynch him -> we lynch town - Exorcist shoots LS. On N2 mafia kills whoever. WORSE FUCKING POSITION.

The only scenario, even if we lynch mafia that is not LS, is WORSE/SAME than lynching him.
The only scenario which is BETTER is if we lynch him and is mafia.
IT IS THE BEST PLAY REGARDLESS OF HIS AFFILIATION.


For reference.

Alright, I think I get it now though. So you do want to prevent the soup kill at the least.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
September 21 2015 13:14 GMT
#1597
I placed my vote on Damdred for now. If we are shy of votes for "the plan" on LS, then I'll consolidate on him.

Need to attend to work here, but next break I get (or worst case, when I get off work) going to prioritise Tictock.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
September 21 2015 13:16 GMT
#1598
On September 21 2015 17:06 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2015 07:04 Damdred wrote:
Hi friend sim back just now will be catching up here and posting some as I read

WTF
This is Damdred's only post in D2


Yeah....that was the main reason for my Jeopardy post. I posted that 1h after he posted his catch up post. I know he's US so was hoping he might have posted something after I went to bed....but no he didn't.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 21 2015 13:17 GMT
#1599
On September 21 2015 22:09 Half the Sky wrote:
Preferred lynches tonight (in order)

1 Damdred
2 James (Fidei)
3 LS ("aka the plan")

I strongly prefer 1, with a gap between that and #2 and an even larger gap between that and #3.
I mean the play in lynching LS is to prevent the soup kill correct? Lemme check the post....

D2 in general was quite unproductive tbf rayn, it was the weekend. You were in Sweden, others had other things going on. I myself had a window of maybe 3 hours maximum that I could play on the entire weekend.

At least BM is probably not mafia. Didn't get around to checking Tictock though.

I can directly vouch for Fidei's absence Friday night - I was playing dota with him, then, until 3am fact. Saturday he had sport all day, IDK.

I'm just saying RL commitments are NAI. The only thing I'd judge him on would be Sunday night where he prioritises a game that is in 2:1 lylo over here.

The main reason I'd lynch into him is what I do know about his hesitation to play mafia, the fact that I've read most others here as town, barring 1-2 I could be wrong on (previously stated).

I am not saying he is mafia because of his absence.
I am saying he is mafia because of what he has posted when he has posted, which pretty much says nothing despite there being many words. Like can you understand him saying "i think HtS is town but she could easily fool me if she was mafia"!??!?!? Like what is the point of saying so and how can he possibly read you as town if he thinks you could easily be mafia aswell?

The timing of his last post was a coincidence because i just finished reading his filter when i posted after.
table for two on a tv tray
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
September 21 2015 13:18 GMT
#1600
On September 21 2015 22:09 Half the Sky wrote:
3 LS ("aka the plan")

LOL
That is a fucking good name for a plan
Prev 1 78 79 80 81 82 113 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
RSL Revival
07:30
Playoffs
herO vs MaruLIVE!
Tasteless1122
Crank 977
IndyStarCraft 191
Rex136
3DClanTV 81
CranKy Ducklings49
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Tasteless 1122
Crank 977
mouzHeroMarine 217
IndyStarCraft 191
Rex 136
SortOf 39
MindelVK 28
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 3923
PianO 1020
Larva 817
firebathero 395
Killer 324
sorry 252
HiyA 44
Hm[arnc] 24
Last 18
soO 14
[ Show more ]
Purpose 7
Dota 2
XcaliburYe296
League of Legends
JimRising 488
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor175
Other Games
summit1g19537
C9.Mang0288
crisheroes163
Fuzer 139
Trikslyr30
Organizations
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream15696
Other Games
gamesdonequick632
StarCraft: Brood War
UltimateBattle 60
lovetv 10
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH233
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Lourlo1438
• Stunt408
Upcoming Events
WardiTV Korean Royale
1h 49m
SC Evo League
2h 19m
IPSL
6h 49m
Julia vs Artosis
JDConan vs DragOn
OSC
6h 49m
BSL 21
9h 49m
TerrOr vs Aeternum
HBO vs Kyrie
RSL Revival
21h 19m
Wardi Open
1d 3h
IPSL
1d 9h
StRyKeR vs OldBoy
Sziky vs Tarson
BSL 21
1d 9h
StRyKeR vs Artosis
OyAji vs KameZerg
OSC
1d 12h
[ Show More ]
OSC
1d 22h
Monday Night Weeklies
2 days
OSC
2 days
Wardi Open
3 days
Replay Cast
3 days
Wardi Open
4 days
Tenacious Turtle Tussle
4 days
The PondCast
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
LAN Event
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2025-11-16
Stellar Fest: Constellation Cup
Eternal Conflict S1

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 4
SOOP Univ League 2025
YSL S2
BSL Season 21
CSCL: Masked Kings S3
SLON Tour Season 2
RSL Revival: Season 3
META Madness #9
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2

Upcoming

BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
HSC XXVIII
RSL Offline Finals
WardiTV 2025
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026: Closed Qualifier
eXTREMESLAND 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
SL Budapest Major 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.