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On September 20 2015 09:44 Tictock wrote:Show nested quote +On September 20 2015 09:19 LightningStrike wrote:
Did anyone even read my long post about my Damdred throughout the game? I did, reminded me of the filter dive I did of you before EoD. Show nested quote +On September 19 2015 07:56 LightningStrike wrote:
Btw if you got a red check Claim it ASAP but if you got a green check don't say anything about the green check! No one has claimed a redcheck, so who else do you think is scum LS?
Idk quite honestly if I wrong on anyone could be James because I a huge sucker for people actually defend me when I get under fire he been kinda me focused I guess more than anyone filter % wise he wasn't talking much about anyone compared to me O_o
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Man every time I post the thread dies am I a natural thread killer or what's going on?
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On September 20 2015 09:40 Tictock wrote:Show nested quote +On September 19 2015 15:44 Bill Murray wrote:On September 19 2015 14:57 Tictock wrote:
Also, just gunna throw this out there.
Cop (Inquisitor) doesn't NEED to claim if they have a red check imo. In fact I'm not sure it's a good idea at all anymore.
Right now we know Vixax is martyr, if Cop claims with a red-check on Damdred then mafia can soup them both tonight, and possibly more if they have some read on other roles.
So claiming a redcheck is a 1 mafia for 2 town trade. Given that mafia goes for the soup kill.
That would (again assuming we are 7/3 now) put us into a 5/2. Leaving town with the one mislynch before we are in lylo.
So think things through yourself, check if I'm right here and if it's still a good call to claim a check in this situation. I 100% disagree with this we can afford that... in fact it would be good for town we CANT afford losing 3 in 1 night either way with 3 or with 2 we can do the 2 fer first off, it will prevent a mylo scenario which is awkward 8v2 lynch 7v2 nightkill 6v2 lynch 5v2 nightkill4v2 (mylo) but if you do your scenario 8v2 lynch 7v2 soup 5v2 lynch 4v2 nightkill 3v2 (cleaner... better odds of lynching mafia in lylo ass opposed to mylo) TL;DR with 2 or 3 left we are in an awkward scenario where it will end up in mylo instead of lylo which are better odds for mafia. So looking back at this, I noticed that there are some mistakes/weird stuff happening here. In your 2nd list you have town mislynching, followed by a soup kill which makes no sense. Only way we get a 2nd claim today is if Inq claims a redcheck which would mean: 8v2 lynch 8v1 soup 6v1 mislynch 5v1 nightkill 4v1 ml 3v1 nk 2v1 LyLo no soup 8v2 ml 7v2 nk 6v2 ml 5v2 nk 4v2 MyLo Or the 7/3 situation 7v3 lynch 7v2 soup 5v2 ml 4v2 nk 3v2 LyLo And lastly 7/3 no soup 7v3 ml 6v3 nk 5v3 MyLo (ml 4v3 into nk 3v3) That last one is scary actually. Also I now see exactly what you mean BM. Redcheck should definitely be claimed. It probably should have been claimed already, but if you listened to my lat post about this and held off claiming a redcheck now is the time. Otherwise assuming Damdred is town seems fairly reasonable.
yeah i did make a mistake im glad you brought this up:
if they souped and we red then the scum would be dead
so that wouldnt be a mislynch
but if there was, worst case scenario, it would still be better than if we dont
because i like to avoid mylo
it's statistically better for town to have an actual lynch lose instead of mislynch lose
however with 4 left or 6 left and mylo this scenario is about the first i've thought hey this might be decent
we might not want to avoid mylo because of the angelic protection
food for thought
What do you think of LS's "long" post about Damdred, TT?
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On September 19 2015 19:22 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On September 19 2015 14:44 Tictock wrote:
Vote Count: ~24hrs before EoD
LightningStrike (2): raynpelikoneet, Half the Sky, geript, raynpelikoneet
The Shining (1): Rels, Dandel Ion
Dandel Ion (1): Rels
Damdred (5): raynpelikoneet, LightningStrike, Fecalfeast, Bill Murray, The Shining, Half the Sky
Holy Grail Vote
geript (2): raynpelikoneet, geript, Bill Murray
TicTock (1): Rels
raynpelikoneet (1): LightningStrike
Fecalfeast (3): Fecalfeast, The Shining, Half the Sky
Vivax (1): geript
EoDVote Count
LightningStrike (2): raynpelikoneet, Half the Sky, geript, raynpelikoneet, Dandel Ion
The Shining (0): Rels, Dandel Ion
Dandel Ion (9): Rels, Damdred, Tictock, Half the Sky, Fidei86, The Shining, Fecalfeast, LightningStrike, geript
Damdred (2): raynpelikoneet, LightningStrike, Fecalfeast, Bill Murray, The Shining, Half the Sky, Vivax
Bill Murray (0): Vivax
Holy Grail Vote
geript (2): raynpelikoneet, geript, Bill Murray, geript, Damdred, The Shining, Rels, Dandel Ion
TicTock (1): Rels
raynpelikoneet (1): LightningStrike
Fecalfeast (3): Fecalfeast, The Shining, Half the Sky
Vivax (0): geript, Half the Sky, Vivax, Fidei86, LightningStrike
EoDVote Count: Cleaned up with colors!
Dandel Ion (9): Rels, Damdred, Tictock, Half the Sky, Fidei86, The Shining, Fecalfeast, LightningStrike, geript
LightningStrike (2): raynpelikoneet, Dandel Ion
Damdred (2): Bill Murray, Vivax
Holy Grail Vote
geript (7): raynpelikoneet, Bill Murray, geript, Damdred, The Shining, Rels, Dandel Ion
Vivax (4): Half the Sky, Vivax, Fidei86, LightningStrike
Fecalfeast (1): Fecalfeast
Ok this doesn't really tell us a whole lot, or at least I dont see much information from this, but maybe someone who is better with VCA stuff cna read more into it than I, also now we have a couple of VCs for D1 to look at.
The runaway train that grew on Dandel probably has all the mafia on it. Rayn has been pretty clearly town, Vivax is unCC'd and I'm leaning town on BM, so that's where I'm going to put my focus.
Damdred, LS and FF and an outside chance of Fidei are the people I'm thinking are most likely scum. I'm not really sure if I'm still scum reading Fidei, but I'm gunna leave him on the scummier side of null for now untill I get a chance to reread him. I know that he's playing in multiple games at once so that split of his focus might be affecting my read on him.
Pretty cool (= I prefer a colored vote count with switches though. Here it is: EoDVote CountLightningStrike (2): raynpelikoneet, Half the Sky, geript, raynpelikoneet, Dandel IonThe Shining (0): Rels, Dandel IonDandel Ion (9): Rels, Damdred, Tictock, Half the Sky, Fidei86, The Shining, Fecalfeast, LightningStrike, geriptDamdred (2): raynpelikoneet, LightningStrike, Fecalfeast, Bill Murray, The Shining, Half the Sky, Vivax Bill Murray (0): VivaxHoly Grail Votegeript (2): raynpelikoneet, geript, Bill Murray, geript, Damdred, The Shining, Rels, Dandel IonTicTock (1): Relsraynpelikoneet (1): LightningStrike Fecalfeast (3): Fecalfeast, The Shining, Half the SkyVivax (0): geript, Half the Sky, Vivax, Fidei86, LightningStrike Not much to say with that big of a wagon. Dandel voting for LS at the end is weird; why did he not fucking shot LS. I disagree with BM outside the main wagon being town indicative. Maybe if he was here at EOD and had reasons to do so, it would mean something; but the reason he's not on the main wagon is that he was not here.
um, no
i wasnt going to vote dandelion
and if you have been paying attention to me this game you should have realized that bro
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On September 19 2015 18:49 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On September 19 2015 18:46 Rels wrote:On September 19 2015 18:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 19 2015 18:33 Rels wrote:On September 19 2015 18:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Guys that lynch was realky fucking dumb. Easy to say that in retrospect no it was really stupid because the dude fucking claimed the only role that should claim if being lynched.... idk.. maybe i go reread and just see who was there and not unvote and lynch the fuck out of them. reread the timestamps he claimed exactly at deadline yeah i got that, the timestamps on new TL are fucking horrible. i hate those. i hate the new design as whole...
me too but im getting used to it
On September 18 2015 07:00 Dandel Ion wrote:
well prepare to be anally blasted
it will be...... grand you could say
oh i thought he was crusader
thats REALLY FUCKING BAD FOR US that we lost one of our important roles
This gimps us because if he visited the wandering wraith they would have learned who he was
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Also I want to say I agree with Vivax on the role speculation from Rels/Rayn/etc
We need to stick to old fashioned scumhunting.
We got vanilla icecream ready to eat
Don't fuck it up by adding too many things
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On September 20 2015 12:35 Bill Murray wrote:
Also I want to say I agree with Vivax on the role speculation from Rels/Rayn/etc
We need to stick to old fashioned scumhunting.
We got vanilla icecream ready to eat
Don't fuck it up by adding too many things
I agree with this actually. I will vote ls
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ok so i just looked at damdreds filter in expectation that he actually started to care by now and its absolutely not the case. his activity was already abysmal on d1 and its worse now.
he should definitely be lynched before ls who is one of the most mislynched players on the forum atm.
more once i reach my pc
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hello everyone (=
so every single person is OK lynching LS. That means this lynch is mafia approved: either a mislynch or a bus
I have a few hours before I need to do other stuff, so I will try to filter dive everyone. If I don't have the time I won't do the people I'm pretty sure are town
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On September 20 2015 17:10 Vivax wrote:
ok so i just looked at damdreds filter in expectation that he actually started to care by now and its absolutely not the case. his activity was already abysmal on d1 and its worse now.
he should definitely be lynched before ls who is one of the most mislynched players on the forum atm.
more once i reach my pc
I agree LS' lynch is either a mislynch or a bus
Don't agree with lynching Damdred today though. He has probably been checked by the inquisitor, so if there is not red claim he's probably town
Now the inquisitor might have been Shining or geript. But if that's the case, the acolyte knows the inquisitor is dead
Mmmm. I think if Damdred continues to be inactive today even though he said he would pick up on Sunday AND the acolyte knows the inquisitor is dead, he should claim and we should lynch Damdred
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Saying "there's no claimed check so Damdred must be green" is dumb, Nobody has any idea if the inquisitor died among the three flipped dudes, nobody has any idea if he actually checked Damdred. Hell, he might even have checked LS.
Why would you lynch LS who has like 6 pages of filter over Damdred with shitty 2 pages just cause maybe the inquisitor checked him and is a guy who can never claim until he red checked two witches for the claim to be worth it.
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On September 20 2015 17:41 Vivax wrote:
Saying "there's no claimed check so Damdred must be green" is dumb, Nobody has any idea if the inquisitor died among the three flipped dudes, nobody has any idea if he actually checked Damdred. Hell, he might even have checked LS.
Why would you lynch LS who has like 6 pages of filter over Damdred with shitty 2 pages just cause maybe the inquisitor checked him and is a guy who can never claim until he red checked two witches for the claim to be worth it.
because we fucking talk about it in D1. If you had a problem with this you should have talked about this D1, when it was decided town should decide the check and the inquisitor should claim is he had a red checl. rayn made this plan and this plan is awesome 'cause:
- the town decide the check target
- if no claim, we can assume the check target is green WITHOUT the inquisitor needing to claim!
No claim today = Damdred probably town. Hell, no resistance to Damdred being the check yesterday = Damdred probably town.
Now there is the chance the inquisitor was Shining or geript, so Damdred is not confirmed town. But for me, it buys him at least today to do stuff.
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Well fuck your logic if somebody plays like mafia he is mafia and Damdred sure as hell isn't playing like town.
Doesn't matter what you people talked about during D1. The inquisitor either
is dead
didn't listen to you
might even have red checked Damdred and doesn't claim cause claiming would be idiotic if he trades himself for one witch.
He needs at least two checks before claiming can have any value and even then it's situational. Cause mafia soups us both the night after.
You guys are so fucking hung up on roles this game, it's like Guardians of the galaxy where people fuck up by basing everything on the plays around roles. Fuck your roles, lynch people who play like mafia.
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Mm I see what you mean. Let me discard the first two theories.
If the inquisitor is dead the acolyte knows about it (unless both are dead, which would be super unlikely), hence my proposition for him to claim.
It's not possible the inquisitor didn't check Damdred. It is the only target he was sure oracle would check too.
Now maybe the inquisitor has red check and didn't claim. Maybe. I'll reread BM and TT post about what would happen if the inquisitor doesn't claim to see if that makes sense.
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Ima tell you who I think is mafia atm: BM, Damdred, and rayn.
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I could potentially swap out BM with FF at this point.
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