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On September 16 2015 18:32 Wile E. Coyote wrote:Show nested quote +On September 16 2015 18:27 justanothertownie wrote:On September 16 2015 18:26 Wile E. Coyote wrote:On September 16 2015 18:25 justanothertownie wrote:On September 16 2015 18:24 Wile E. Coyote wrote:
I explained that. I dont know the meta I have to trust me non meta on a player to decide if their meta reads are valid Rayns stuff on moosy has NOTHING to do with meta. Literally nothing. its about another game... You do not need to know the other game to evaluate his argument which should be obvious since rayn didn't even play in that game. What is this shit? How do you argue about stupid shit like this and wonder why half the game thinks your mafia. Its still meta yes I could read into it more and I still may but I told you im ignoring meta.
It isn't meta. Rayn made an argument calling someone mafia for referencing another game. Rayn did NOT play in that game -> he has the same information you have. There is no meta involved.
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On September 16 2015 18:44 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On September 16 2015 10:29 TheWarWaffle wrote:
Palmar: Appears to be town. Sheeps raynpelikoneet and assures us that he is for sure town based on the way he is playing. Is suspicious of MoosyDoosy but doesn't want to lynch him for reasons unknown. Wants to lynch marvellosity instead.
There are some alarms in his play but I am not going to do anything about them today. If he is mafia he's doing the Imperial version (where he is not obvious) as opposed to the shit version that you can lynch on day 1. [/b]
This is where I am at too.
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On September 16 2015 18:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:
This WarWaffle guy is hilarious and probably town.
Why? His big post was basically a summary of what happened and it wasn't even correct. He didn't say much in it.
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On September 16 2015 18:52 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On September 16 2015 18:46 justanothertownie wrote:On September 16 2015 18:44 Palmar wrote:On September 16 2015 10:29 TheWarWaffle wrote:
Palmar: Appears to be town. Sheeps raynpelikoneet and assures us that he is for sure town based on the way he is playing. Is suspicious of MoosyDoosy but doesn't want to lynch him for reasons unknown. Wants to lynch marvellosity instead.
There are some alarms in his play but I am not going to do anything about them today. If he is mafia he's doing the Imperial version (where he is not obvious) as opposed to the shit version that you can lynch on day 1. This is where I am at too. yeah but you're mafia so that doesn't count.
You are boring.
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On September 16 2015 19:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:haha ^^ nvm again.  now let's just lynch moosy. then lynch jat, then cephiro.
Your moosy stuff is really weak and if you do not explain your weird meta it won't become any more convincing. I am town.
There is room for improvement here.
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On September 16 2015 19:20 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On September 16 2015 19:18 Palmar wrote:
I haven't even read rayn's case on moosy.
Also I can't even remember cephiro posting after a strong start so he is getting a downgrade. This is correct. So there was some normal game ages ago now where I superhardpushed (remember those days?) Cephiro on d2 because i was convinced he was mafia (he was) then i thought he was mafia in a game soon after and pushed him again, except this time he wasn't. In that game he posted more kinda self-centred wall of texts like he has here, which led me to my early townread on him in this case but if he's not playing, maybe he just decided that was his effort for the day. dno though, will think about it a bit later
You're probably talking about TL Noir and Hogwarts.
On September 16 2015 19:40 Palmar wrote:
JAT could also be mafia. I am actually serious that he could be. There's a lot of argumentative loud people in this game and there is plenty to stuff I talk about. I just get this overall feeling that he's always sort of in the background. Maybe I'm just ignoring his posts but whenever people are talking in the thread (for example this morning) it feels like he is offering way less to the discussion than everyone else who is talking.
You can say I was in the background yesterday. But not today - that's just plain untrue. Not that it would make me mafia anyways.
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On September 16 2015 19:50 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On September 16 2015 18:31 ritoky wrote:
i think what rayn is trying to say is that moosy was trying to use specific plays and characteristics of JAT in a specific game to give him a town read when he couldn't even remember the general information of the game (who was playing) especially considering it was recent. It makes the read feel like bullshit cuz he is trying to make a meta argument when it is kinda clear he didn't do basic research on it or remember it fully accurately. makes the read in the very least hard to trust.
i kinda understand the thought behind moosy's read but not necessarily his justification or source. cuz there is a point for most players if you're mafia day 1 about to get lynched where you have to switch to pandering/defense/buying votes mode and out of obstinate antagonistic dick mode. jat didn't switch out of being obstinate when under legitimate lynch pressure which trends slightly toward town, but i doubt it is outside of his capabilities as mafia so it really isn't an indicator in the slightest. the thing is, see the post that me/palmar quoted from last game. moosy was very inaccurate with details there. i just don't even BEGIN to grasp what rayn is pushing here :/
Unless there is some super secret meta reasoning it is just bad.
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What do you think of Palmar?
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Or the ritoky vs damdred thing. Considering their claimed accuracy of reading each other that should be interesting too.
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I think damdred started the game throwing townreads around and then at some point just fell off a cliff.
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On September 16 2015 20:05 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On September 16 2015 20:01 justanothertownie wrote:
Or the ritoky vs damdred thing. Considering their claimed accuracy of reading each other that should be interesting too. yes i saw that, but decided to leave them to have it out at some stage i don't really want to touch damdred with a bargepole if you do, please go ahead :>
The question is WHY do you not want to touch damdred? Because you have been wrong on him before? Doesn't make any sense. You even said I could be mafia and if there is any player in the game you wouldn't talk about it is me.
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On September 16 2015 20:10 Wile E. Coyote wrote:Show nested quote +On September 16 2015 19:48 marvellosity wrote:On September 16 2015 18:12 Wile E. Coyote wrote:
Me thinking moosy is scummy is nothing new its in the thread. My top town also agreed at about the same time as me.
And yes math is very important on day 1 lynches. You hit mafia way less on day 1. So voting someone whos probably not a power role and the most likely to me to flip mafia is the easiest vote of my life lol can't tell if townie or scummy when i am mafiai am not voting someone that is believed to be vt. Thats for damn sure im going after potential poweroles. I think if theres clear evidence im town its that im voting a claimed vt because i am not terrible. In the format I play protecting power roles is super important and finding them as mafia is even more. I have moosys range as vt/ lying about being vt for cheap newbie town reads.
Powerroles are way less important in forum mafia. Mafia will almost never push someone because they think it is a powerrole. It is hard enough to get any kind of mislynch going without giving yourself away.
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On September 16 2015 20:13 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On September 16 2015 20:11 justanothertownie wrote:On September 16 2015 20:05 marvellosity wrote:On September 16 2015 20:01 justanothertownie wrote:
Or the ritoky vs damdred thing. Considering their claimed accuracy of reading each other that should be interesting too. yes i saw that, but decided to leave them to have it out at some stage i don't really want to touch damdred with a bargepole if you do, please go ahead :> The question is WHY do you not want to touch damdred? Because you have been wrong on him before? Doesn't make any sense. You even said I could be mafia and if there is any player in the game you wouldn't talk about it is me. this has been my damdred strat for some games now. you approving or not doesn't matter very much to me bbz. see his pre-game comment even
So you will just forever abstain from reading damdred? You could just say what you think of his play and put a disclaimer on it. You know, like you do with your read on me all the time.
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If you really like ritoky this game damdred should be in your lynchpool.
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On September 16 2015 20:17 Wile E. Coyote wrote:
Well thats not really true at all. I think you guys just suck at the technical stuff altho you are very good at other things. In werewolf there is always a full seer (cop) with a n0 check so its definitely more important but it should still have some weight here.
Sure, but this isn't werewolf. There is no townie with extra information on day1 and cop checks aren't 100 % trustworthy.
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On September 16 2015 20:16 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On September 16 2015 20:16 justanothertownie wrote:
If you really like ritoky this game damdred should be in your lynchpool. then maybe you can imply something about my read on him that i'm not talking about from the fact he isn't or maybe you can't
No, I can't since I am not reading you town so far.
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On September 16 2015 20:21 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On September 16 2015 20:21 justanothertownie wrote:On September 16 2015 20:16 marvellosity wrote:On September 16 2015 20:16 justanothertownie wrote:
If you really like ritoky this game damdred should be in your lynchpool. then maybe you can imply something about my read on him that i'm not talking about from the fact he isn't or maybe you can't No, I can't since I am not reading you town so far. *shrug*
I'll add this to the reasons why I don't.
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On September 16 2015 20:22 Koshi wrote:
wow. JAT, if you want an ally annoying marv I am here for you.
Unlike certain other people I am not calling people mafia/not town to annoy them.
I have serious doubts about marv this game.
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On September 16 2015 20:26 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On September 16 2015 20:25 justanothertownie wrote:On September 16 2015 20:22 Koshi wrote:
wow. JAT, if you want an ally annoying marv I am here for you. Unlike certain other people I am not calling people mafia/not town to annoy them. I have serious doubts about marv this game. I am back people? Improvement ![[image loading]](http://cdn.meme.am/instances/500x/56631984.jpg)
Fuck.
I'll just say I was talking about Palmar alone.
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On September 16 2015 20:21 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On September 16 2015 20:21 justanothertownie wrote:On September 16 2015 20:16 marvellosity wrote:On September 16 2015 20:16 justanothertownie wrote:
If you really like ritoky this game damdred should be in your lynchpool. then maybe you can imply something about my read on him that i'm not talking about from the fact he isn't or maybe you can't No, I can't since I am not reading you town so far. *shrug*
To explain:
If marv was town here I would expect him to tell me I am being weird for scumreading him or something like that. Or telling me I know he is town. I would definitely not expect him to make this post and subsequently flee the thread.
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