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Well, I don't mind the afk over the weekend. But I do mind the afk today.
He was in a fight with me because I suddenly called him mafia day1 (and he reacted in a really unmarvlike way) but nobody liked what I said or wanted to even entertain lynching marv so I dropped it since I had to leave way before deadline anyways.
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On September 22 2015 06:51 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On September 22 2015 06:24 Palmar wrote:
Like here's (off the top of my head, not researched or designed to be particularly valid) points I was talking about earlier that could possibly make you mafia (please don't argue with them as I'm not going to argue for them).
1) the background-y-ness on day 1 really sticks with me. I feel like I was in more than a couple of conversations where your entire role in the conversation was to just chirp in at random times with something relatively pointless.
2) The strong opposition to damdred's read on wile and refusal to count it as a point in damdred's favour (even if it was wrong, it was a good observation)
3) The "blow things out of proportion" thing. I wrote the post where you called something that was just a difference in understanding a blatant lie, someone else called you out on something similar on day 2, and you did it once again today (I can't remember the context, but I mentioned it). Like you've been SUPER aggressive about shutting down ideas that involve you being mafia this game
4) I got a weird feeling from the way you talked about me possibly being mafia if marv flips mafia. I know that it's essentially correct but I always felt your stance was "Palmar is likely mafia if marv is mafia" and not "Palmar can be mafia, but isn't really likely to be even if marv flips mafia". This goes back to my #dreamteam theory (that was semi-serious at the time). I don't see how any of this makes him town whatsoever. Show nested quote +On September 22 2015 06:26 justanothertownie wrote:
Rayn was HARD townreading me. And he was hard townreading Marv and hard scumreading me. So what?
I see you are also carrying the "missing the point" torch.
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I had the same thought about an hour ago.
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On September 22 2015 07:03 geript wrote:Just some of the Rayn "townreads" on JAT Show nested quote +On September 15 2015 19:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 15 2015 18:57 Palmar wrote:
I feel like JAT has basically been a non-entity this game. Maybe I should tunnel him to see what happens. I agree with this, especially lately. but i think its too early to tell. Show nested quote +On September 15 2015 19:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Koshi; Palmar is almost definitely town. I somewhat agree with you on JAT but you are wrong on Palmar. Show nested quote +On September 15 2015 20:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 15 2015 20:40 marvellosity wrote:On September 15 2015 20:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am not saying he should be a clean townread for you.
I am saying he should not be a scumread for you because he does things you think are more likely to come from town!geript than mafia!geript (unless you ofc prove where i am wrong, which you havent done). not sure if it helps, but from my perspective: 1) geript is more calculated as mafia 2) geript did something scummy 3) the thing was scummy enough that 2 to an extent trumps 1 or to put it another way maybe, most nonsense/all-over-the-placeness isn't scummy well for me it isn't, because i can't understand how someone makes the posts geript did. i also have no idea how jat comes to the conclusions he does. i also have no idea why he feels the need to "defend" geript or what the fuck ever he was doing if "it doesn't matter" in the end anyways?!?!? Show nested quote +On September 15 2015 20:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:Like here is what jat said: "I think rayn's case looks good on paper because yes, geript is being irrational and not-sense-making. Therefore i do not think it makes him mafia. Here is why; I think when geript is mafia he is calculated and makes sense, when he is town he is irrational and not-sense-making most of the time. But i still scumread him because i have no reason to townread him." jesus fucking christ  Show nested quote +On September 16 2015 05:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Not really, jat on the other hand is still not doing shit and apparently is not doing shit for the rest of the phase... Show nested quote +On September 16 2015 22:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am talking about the start of the game and the jat thing fits into his scum!character.
The way he processes information and what he lays out is scummy as fuck. Like yes, i know he is irrational at times and does weird stuff but this is just plain out scummy. Show nested quote +On September 17 2015 00:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I know that was geript but why does he like "approve" geript's question if he doesn't think marv should do that.
Like saying "you were wrong on him remember" is basically saying "listen to geript here" which makes no sense if jat thinks i am town. The post just doesn't make any sense if jat thinks i am not mafia. Show nested quote +On September 17 2015 00:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Honestly i have no fucking idea what jat is doing in this game.
Almost nothing he does makes any sense to me. Show nested quote +On September 17 2015 00:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 17 2015 00:18 MoosyDoosy wrote:
I'm really not confident about a JAT lynch if it's based mostly off of meta like Damdred says. :/ Is there anything else more solid that I missed? He is doing nothing and his vote is on my top townread. Show nested quote +On September 17 2015 04:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
like i am waffling between jat/damdred/cephiro.
and i don't think cephiro is the scummiest of those people. there is 3 mafia soo....... By the end of the night, Rayn ends up town on JAT, but I'm pretty sure Rayn reads Marv as town far FAR more than he reads Jat as Mafia. Plus, the Rayn townread on JAT seems mostly based on me being mafia which is wrong. So I literally give zero fucks about Rayn's townread on JAT. Some of his points for scumreads are pretty interesting, because mafia tends to townread me and whiteknight me for really bad reasons which has been rather different from how Damdred townread me.
Rayns townread on me had absolutely nothing to do with you. I habe no idea how you come up with this shit.
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On September 22 2015 07:23 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On September 22 2015 07:05 justanothertownie wrote:On September 22 2015 07:03 geript wrote:Just some of the Rayn "townreads" on JAT On September 15 2015 19:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 15 2015 18:57 Palmar wrote:
I feel like JAT has basically been a non-entity this game. Maybe I should tunnel him to see what happens. I agree with this, especially lately. but i think its too early to tell. On September 15 2015 19:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Koshi; Palmar is almost definitely town. I somewhat agree with you on JAT but you are wrong on Palmar. On September 15 2015 20:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 15 2015 20:40 marvellosity wrote:On September 15 2015 20:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am not saying he should be a clean townread for you.
I am saying he should not be a scumread for you because he does things you think are more likely to come from town!geript than mafia!geript (unless you ofc prove where i am wrong, which you havent done). not sure if it helps, but from my perspective: 1) geript is more calculated as mafia 2) geript did something scummy 3) the thing was scummy enough that 2 to an extent trumps 1 or to put it another way maybe, most nonsense/all-over-the-placeness isn't scummy well for me it isn't, because i can't understand how someone makes the posts geript did. i also have no idea how jat comes to the conclusions he does. i also have no idea why he feels the need to "defend" geript or what the fuck ever he was doing if "it doesn't matter" in the end anyways?!?!? On September 15 2015 20:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:Like here is what jat said: "I think rayn's case looks good on paper because yes, geript is being irrational and not-sense-making. Therefore i do not think it makes him mafia. Here is why; I think when geript is mafia he is calculated and makes sense, when he is town he is irrational and not-sense-making most of the time. But i still scumread him because i have no reason to townread him." jesus fucking christ On September 16 2015 05:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Not really, jat on the other hand is still not doing shit and apparently is not doing shit for the rest of the phase... On September 16 2015 22:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am talking about the start of the game and the jat thing fits into his scum!character.
The way he processes information and what he lays out is scummy as fuck. Like yes, i know he is irrational at times and does weird stuff but this is just plain out scummy. On September 17 2015 00:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I know that was geript but why does he like "approve" geript's question if he doesn't think marv should do that.
Like saying "you were wrong on him remember" is basically saying "listen to geript here" which makes no sense if jat thinks i am town. The post just doesn't make any sense if jat thinks i am not mafia. On September 17 2015 00:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Honestly i have no fucking idea what jat is doing in this game.
Almost nothing he does makes any sense to me. On September 17 2015 00:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 17 2015 00:18 MoosyDoosy wrote:
I'm really not confident about a JAT lynch if it's based mostly off of meta like Damdred says. :/ Is there anything else more solid that I missed? He is doing nothing and his vote is on my top townread. On September 17 2015 04:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
like i am waffling between jat/damdred/cephiro.
and i don't think cephiro is the scummiest of those people. there is 3 mafia soo....... By the end of the night, Rayn ends up town on JAT, but I'm pretty sure Rayn reads Marv as town far FAR more than he reads Jat as Mafia. Plus, the Rayn townread on JAT seems mostly based on me being mafia which is wrong. So I literally give zero fucks about Rayn's townread on JAT. Some of his points for scumreads are pretty interesting, because mafia tends to townread me and whiteknight me for really bad reasons which has been rather different from how Damdred townread me. Rayns townread on me had absolutely nothing to do with you. I habe no idea how you come up with this shit. That's a flat out lie. All anyone has to do is open rayn's filter and cntrl+f "JAT" and his read on you seems to come around as his read on me comes around at the same time. Show nested quote +On September 17 2015 18:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 17 2015 18:06 justanothertownie wrote:
It has been townjat all along. Being in this counterwagon position is actually pretty nice now that I think of it. Will read what I missed and give my thoughts on it later on. I dont think that means much. I mean like if you are town idk what that would mean regarding the votes (if two townies are up for lynch). If anything, it should be a red flag on geript because he didn't give a shit about who gets lynched.... and now look at what he is saying.... Show nested quote +On September 17 2015 18:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:I actually had really good reasons to think moosy is mafia.  I will tell you them some day. But this is the town!jat i have been waiting for. Thank you. Additionally, it comes around based on your Wile/SL smurf read. One that's actually pretty useless IMO honestly (although I enjoy lynching SL b/c he's a complete asshat). It's interesting, but I don't think it's like "OMG 100% must be mafia because SL." I forget who caught the Wile claim fuck up thing, but I think it was JAT iirc and that's the sort of bus that's great to do because it'll happen regardless at some point.
Rayn can make/have 2 reads at the same time without them being correlated to each other. I know it must seem like a complicated and foreign concept but it actually is possible.
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Not that any of this has the slightest relevance for our lynch today. Fine, rayns townread on me does not make me town. Are you content now? That does not make marv any less scummy.
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Well, he was right on Wile and he might be right on you :/
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On September 22 2015 08:00 ritoky wrote:
gonna move my vote to marv or cephiro for fucking off too much.
also should go back and look at who was the least engaged in the game last day phase....cuz i seriously think the person making the nks had to be fairly disengaged to believe scott only had 1 use....they also missed me soft vigi 3 times.
I really think it is much more likely that the mafiateam has a godfather and therefore didn't give a shit about the tracker.
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On September 22 2015 08:14 ritoky wrote:
geript just feels off to me this game and i am very unsure if that is irl interference.
cuz in the situation we are in today he thinks onegu was mafia and there's a world of 1. but mechanically it is just right to play today considering that there's a world of 2. like that is just mechanically the better mindset to play with right now. last game him and i went ballistic on people for not understanding very simple mechanics on why 1) i could not be mafia and 2) why you should never lynch someone who can block kp until lylo. like if i wasn't confirmed town, geript was town, and i was spouting world of 1 today, i feel like he would berate me. so him being in that mode and not considering into worlds of 2 very much is disconcerting.
That's not the only disconcerting thing about his posts this dayphase. They are all garbage. And don't get me wrong I expect a certain amount of bad posts from town geript but he is going way overboard.
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On September 22 2015 15:15 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On September 22 2015 15:07 scott31337 wrote:On September 22 2015 15:04 geript wrote:On September 22 2015 15:00 scott31337 wrote:On September 22 2015 07:03 geript wrote:Just some of the Rayn "townreads" on JAT On September 15 2015 19:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 15 2015 18:57 Palmar wrote:
I feel like JAT has basically been a non-entity this game. Maybe I should tunnel him to see what happens. I agree with this, especially lately. but i think its too early to tell. On September 15 2015 19:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Koshi; Palmar is almost definitely town. I somewhat agree with you on JAT but you are wrong on Palmar. On September 15 2015 20:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 15 2015 20:40 marvellosity wrote:On September 15 2015 20:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am not saying he should be a clean townread for you.
I am saying he should not be a scumread for you because he does things you think are more likely to come from town!geript than mafia!geript (unless you ofc prove where i am wrong, which you havent done). not sure if it helps, but from my perspective: 1) geript is more calculated as mafia 2) geript did something scummy 3) the thing was scummy enough that 2 to an extent trumps 1 or to put it another way maybe, most nonsense/all-over-the-placeness isn't scummy well for me it isn't, because i can't understand how someone makes the posts geript did. i also have no idea how jat comes to the conclusions he does. i also have no idea why he feels the need to "defend" geript or what the fuck ever he was doing if "it doesn't matter" in the end anyways?!?!? On September 15 2015 20:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:Like here is what jat said: "I think rayn's case looks good on paper because yes, geript is being irrational and not-sense-making. Therefore i do not think it makes him mafia. Here is why; I think when geript is mafia he is calculated and makes sense, when he is town he is irrational and not-sense-making most of the time. But i still scumread him because i have no reason to townread him." jesus fucking christ On September 16 2015 05:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Not really, jat on the other hand is still not doing shit and apparently is not doing shit for the rest of the phase... On September 16 2015 22:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am talking about the start of the game and the jat thing fits into his scum!character.
The way he processes information and what he lays out is scummy as fuck. Like yes, i know he is irrational at times and does weird stuff but this is just plain out scummy. On September 17 2015 00:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I know that was geript but why does he like "approve" geript's question if he doesn't think marv should do that.
Like saying "you were wrong on him remember" is basically saying "listen to geript here" which makes no sense if jat thinks i am town. The post just doesn't make any sense if jat thinks i am not mafia. On September 17 2015 00:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Honestly i have no fucking idea what jat is doing in this game.
Almost nothing he does makes any sense to me. On September 17 2015 00:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 17 2015 00:18 MoosyDoosy wrote:
I'm really not confident about a JAT lynch if it's based mostly off of meta like Damdred says. :/ Is there anything else more solid that I missed? He is doing nothing and his vote is on my top townread. On September 17 2015 04:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
like i am waffling between jat/damdred/cephiro.
and i don't think cephiro is the scummiest of those people. there is 3 mafia soo....... By the end of the night, Rayn ends up town on JAT, but I'm pretty sure Rayn reads Marv as town far FAR more than he reads Jat as Mafia. Plus, the Rayn townread on JAT seems mostly based on me being mafia which is wrong. So I literally give zero fucks about Rayn's townread on JAT. Some of his points for scumreads are pretty interesting, because mafia tends to townread me and whiteknight me for really bad reasons which has been rather different from how Damdred townread me. So - You really have said nothing here - Is that correct? On September 22 2015 08:05 Damdred wrote:
Such talk id be happy lynching Marv or ceph though.
Like I said before I left its really possible that they are a team together since Marv gave up his ceph read for little to no reason at all considering what was going on in the thread.
Rereading that part of the game it just boggles how fast Marv gets off ceph when ceph still didn't do anything to go to moosey who he didn't want to lynch.
Lije its a really possible scum team. This is a Damdred telling me absoultely nothing - Why would you do that as town? On September 22 2015 08:14 ritoky wrote:
geript just feels off to me this game and i am very unsure if that is irl interference.
cuz in the situation we are in today he thinks onegu was mafia and there's a world of 1. but mechanically it is just right to play today considering that there's a world of 2. like that is just mechanically the better mindset to play with right now. last game him and i went ballistic on people for not understanding very simple mechanics on why 1) i could not be mafia and 2) why you should never lynch someone who can block kp until lylo. like if i wasn't confirmed town, geript was town, and i was spouting world of 1 today, i feel like he would berate me. so him being in that mode and not considering into worlds of 2 very much is disconcerting. Good advice here - I'm just saving it here in my filter. --Geript defensive -- On September 22 2015 14:51 geript wrote:On September 22 2015 08:14 ritoky wrote:
geript just feels off to me this game and i am very unsure if that is irl interference.
cuz in the situation we are in today he thinks onegu was mafia and there's a world of 1. but mechanically it is just right to play today considering that there's a world of 2. like that is just mechanically the better mindset to play with right now. last game him and i went ballistic on people for not understanding very simple mechanics on why 1) i could not be mafia and 2) why you should never lynch someone who can block kp until lylo. like if i wasn't confirmed town, geript was town, and i was spouting world of 1 today, i feel like he would berate me. so him being in that mode and not considering into worlds of 2 very much is disconcerting. The circumstances for personality were quite different. You were mechanically a bad lynch; people had made a few pretty bad lynches at that point (ruXxar being obviously town, the FF nuke, etc). Not really the same here. Mechanically, it's best to live in a world of two; but I have a shit ton of townreads so I don't think that's the case here. If there is two, I'd put money it's Palmar/JAT in a heartbeat. Marv doesn't reasonably have a partner. I don't think I could be mafia let alone have a partner. Scott I don't think could have a partner. Damdred could maybe be with any non-confirmed but I really don't think he's mafia. I guess Cephiro + Marv/Damdred is a possibility too. I've kinda forgotten about Ceph, but I think his end of D1 is still relevant and he's probably town. The only team of 2 that makes any sense to me is Palmar/JAT for a variety of reasons. Palmar's acted differently towards Marv, he's been far more active, he's been moving away from decent reads to push people I think are town for mediocre reasons at best. JAT has ramped up in activity over time, he's heavily overstated Rayn's townread on him, he's been pushing random shit that makes zero sense, etc. From a game standpoint side, a 2 person team is 2ML away from winning and now is the important time to pool votes/pressure/thread sentiment to focus town on killing each other. I'll look this over later, but WTF at the moment. There's only two mafia left - and in a world Onegu was one - one mafia left, which from what I've read from SL, I'm doubtful. Marv hasn't done shit - but after my last game that every one bus each other - I have an open fucking mind now. There's only POSSIBLY two mafia left - WHY ARE THE REST OF THE FUCKING TOWN SUCK ASS AND LICK BALLS? Like if any of you scrubs are town - you are throwing the game - Why? To keep up your scum meta bullshit? GG Mr. 2 page filter You are going to try to shit on confirmed town because I am concise and not bullshit a lot of filter when it is not needed? No. I'm putting my thoughts out concisely while having a bit of fun. In one of your reads on me you said nothing stuck out in my filter. Did you even read it? Rayn tunnel. Palmar/Damdred early suspicion. One Vet is a mafia read. Sure I'm not my 15 pages of unmitigated aggression half filled with stupidity (50% ain't bad though right?; at least I got the stupid down pat) but I'm not wholly irrelevant. It's also not like I haven't given my thoughts. I can get me being harder to read this game, but I don't think its that hard to see I'm obviously town. That I'm trying to think/analyze when I can or sheep appropriately/reasonably when I cant.
Time to sheep then.
You are really going for too dumb to be scum, aren't you? How can a townie possibly ignore how marv just gave up and how I have been the only unconfirmed trying to win this game for town for multiple days now. At least Palmar put in a little bit of effort but the rest of you should be ashamed of your own play.
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On September 22 2015 15:02 geript wrote:
Using the filter length heuristic, Scott then Ceph then me then Damdred are the most likely to be mafia. Which tbh is kinda interesting, but eh. A blue not CC'ing Scott is pretty insane imo.
The obvious problem with filter length this game is Scott's a replacement and missed what's usually the most prolific posting phase. I've been busy. Damdred has seemed busy at points. Palmar's posting prolifically slightly oddly. Marv's dropped off a bit since idk D1. Filter length doesn't apply to JAT because JAT.
It's kinda funny because I'd expected mafia to kill Scott not Koshi. I guess it's interchangeable if there's an RB (which would be kinda odd setup with RB x2 and janitor). Makes me wonder if it wasn't just a planned bus and that's why Wile rolled over so easily.
Like, you can't be serious here? Dropped off A BIT? 2 RBs instead of the much simpler GF solution that has been talked about a lot by now?
I seriously hope you are mafia with marv and just trolling because you know you are losing the game.
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On September 22 2015 18:12 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On September 22 2015 17:17 justanothertownie wrote:On September 22 2015 15:02 geript wrote:
Using the filter length heuristic, Scott then Ceph then me then Damdred are the most likely to be mafia. Which tbh is kinda interesting, but eh. A blue not CC'ing Scott is pretty insane imo.
The obvious problem with filter length this game is Scott's a replacement and missed what's usually the most prolific posting phase. I've been busy. Damdred has seemed busy at points. Palmar's posting prolifically slightly oddly. Marv's dropped off a bit since idk D1. Filter length doesn't apply to JAT because JAT.
It's kinda funny because I'd expected mafia to kill Scott not Koshi. I guess it's interchangeable if there's an RB (which would be kinda odd setup with RB x2 and janitor). Makes me wonder if it wasn't just a planned bus and that's why Wile rolled over so easily. Like, you can't be serious here? Dropped off A BIT? 2 RBs instead of the much simpler GF solution that has been talked about a lot by now? I seriously hope you are mafia with marv and just trolling because you know you are losing the game. How can you not understand that Marv can be town here? Him deciding to fuck off post cop check the go enjoy a relaxing weekend aren't alignment indicative. Especially in new Marv meta. I doubt this view will be popular or liked, but new Marv gives far fewer fucks. Far fewer.
To the bolded: Nobody said it was. And new marv meta might be more lazy but it is still incredibly easily to townread and he does still give more than enough fucks.
You will not get any towncred from his flip for this nonsense. You overused your stupid and wrong card.
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On September 22 2015 18:47 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On September 22 2015 18:12 geript wrote:On September 22 2015 17:17 justanothertownie wrote:On September 22 2015 15:02 geript wrote:
Using the filter length heuristic, Scott then Ceph then me then Damdred are the most likely to be mafia. Which tbh is kinda interesting, but eh. A blue not CC'ing Scott is pretty insane imo.
The obvious problem with filter length this game is Scott's a replacement and missed what's usually the most prolific posting phase. I've been busy. Damdred has seemed busy at points. Palmar's posting prolifically slightly oddly. Marv's dropped off a bit since idk D1. Filter length doesn't apply to JAT because JAT.
It's kinda funny because I'd expected mafia to kill Scott not Koshi. I guess it's interchangeable if there's an RB (which would be kinda odd setup with RB x2 and janitor). Makes me wonder if it wasn't just a planned bus and that's why Wile rolled over so easily. Like, you can't be serious here? Dropped off A BIT? 2 RBs instead of the much simpler GF solution that has been talked about a lot by now? I seriously hope you are mafia with marv and just trolling because you know you are losing the game. How can you not understand that Marv can be town here? Him deciding to fuck off post cop check the go enjoy a relaxing weekend aren't alignment indicative. Especially in new Marv meta. I doubt this view will be popular or liked, but new Marv gives far fewer fucks. Far fewer. Yeah, but I remember marv himself saying that as mafia he can give fucks for only a limited amount of time, then he just can't anymore. Whereas as town he can continue to give fucks indefinitely. Having not played with "old marv" I would say he is under his fucks threshhold for an effort based town read. Also if cephiro ninja votes/ninja posts and it isn't jizz worthy or doesn't continue for a sustained period of time it will basically be him claiming mafia at this point.
At this point I just hope he gets modkilled. Marv flipping GF would also be awesome.
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On September 22 2015 18:54 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On September 22 2015 18:52 justanothertownie wrote:On September 22 2015 18:47 ritoky wrote:On September 22 2015 18:12 geript wrote:On September 22 2015 17:17 justanothertownie wrote:On September 22 2015 15:02 geript wrote:
Using the filter length heuristic, Scott then Ceph then me then Damdred are the most likely to be mafia. Which tbh is kinda interesting, but eh. A blue not CC'ing Scott is pretty insane imo.
The obvious problem with filter length this game is Scott's a replacement and missed what's usually the most prolific posting phase. I've been busy. Damdred has seemed busy at points. Palmar's posting prolifically slightly oddly. Marv's dropped off a bit since idk D1. Filter length doesn't apply to JAT because JAT.
It's kinda funny because I'd expected mafia to kill Scott not Koshi. I guess it's interchangeable if there's an RB (which would be kinda odd setup with RB x2 and janitor). Makes me wonder if it wasn't just a planned bus and that's why Wile rolled over so easily. Like, you can't be serious here? Dropped off A BIT? 2 RBs instead of the much simpler GF solution that has been talked about a lot by now? I seriously hope you are mafia with marv and just trolling because you know you are losing the game. How can you not understand that Marv can be town here? Him deciding to fuck off post cop check the go enjoy a relaxing weekend aren't alignment indicative. Especially in new Marv meta. I doubt this view will be popular or liked, but new Marv gives far fewer fucks. Far fewer. Yeah, but I remember marv himself saying that as mafia he can give fucks for only a limited amount of time, then he just can't anymore. Whereas as town he can continue to give fucks indefinitely. Having not played with "old marv" I would say he is under his fucks threshhold for an effort based town read. Also if cephiro ninja votes/ninja posts and it isn't jizz worthy or doesn't continue for a sustained period of time it will basically be him claiming mafia at this point. At this point I just hope he gets modkilled. Marv flipping GF would also be awesome. we don't lose a lynch right? i am too tired to math.
We don't I think. I haven't calculated for Onegu being mafia but if Onegu was town we lost a mislynch because you shot him and a modkill will not lose us another one. Getting modkilled would be the most protown thing Cephiro did all game in a way.
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We also don't lose a mislynch if only one mafia is alive.
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On September 22 2015 20:59 Cephiro wrote:Show nested quote +On September 15 2015 09:02 marvellosity wrote:
Palmar doesn't really deserve the number of townreads he has at this point, it's way too early. ^ Early on D1. What I do agree with, is that it's way to early to give anyone proper townreads at that point based on close to no proper information except earlygame bantering which is most of the time very irrelevant. Don't really understand his motive behind calling Palmar out like this when there were other players townread even more at that point, unless it just doesn't fit marv's agenda. (I think a townie would approach more like a "why are you all townreading this person" rather than "you people should not townread this person", the latter style being clearly aimed towards discrediting the person in question.) Show nested quote +On September 15 2015 21:22 marvellosity wrote:
normally (always?) when jat is mafia you can snare him near the end of the day when he's not quite as capable of pushing interesting things strongly. For someone that has been calling jat mafia a fair few times, I haven't seen many snaring attempts.. If you go and check marv's filter, it has a lot of pages and posts but very few posts actually aim towards getting something done. He might be partaking in discussion or asking questions every once a while, but the key thing is that he's just asking for the sake of asking. He doesn't do anything with the answers he gets. He sits around being content with getting a reply to a question. Sure, not all town players ask the most useful questions all the time, but generally even if something can be understood as a stupid question, there's something that the player asking it wants to achieve with it. I don't see any of that in marv's filter, he rarely follows up a question with anything further. There's a clear lack of goal in what he does. Show nested quote +On September 16 2015 20:00 marvellosity wrote:
totally forgot Wile. Would probably also lynch because i think most others look townier.
i think rayn's defence of him is based on associations that he shouldn't be making (esp moosy). Except... he ends up following rayn's reasoning in the end and conveniently ends up not voting for Wile who he seemed to be okay lynching earlier (and all the way fairly close to the lynch deadline). Do note the reasoning for that also is very lacking. Most others look more town? Sheesh.. just screams "I don't have any real reason to vote for him, so I'll just say I have even less reason voting for others." Show nested quote +On September 16 2015 20:05 marvellosity wrote:
yes i saw that, but decided to leave them to have it out at some stage
i don't really want to touch damdred with a bargepole
if you do, please go ahead :> ^ Distancing from damdred, how much interaction have you seen between these two during the game..? And marv has 15+ pages of filter (mostly irrelevant nonsense.) Here comes the fun part. Guess who convinces marv that Wile isn't a worthy lynch? Show nested quote +On September 17 2015 06:27 marvellosity wrote:On September 17 2015 06:25 Damdred wrote:
He was doing catch up posts where he was commenting as he was coming.
And he came to a moosey post and it felt like a ah ha moment where it felt like he had caught moosey in something then mildly dissapointed that others had picked up on it.
It just felt super towny yes ok, not sure about super towny but i'm definitely getting it. hrmph It just so happens to be Damdred! Do take notice of how marv is instantly fine with not lynching Wile anymore. (Not that he ever provided proper reasoning for why he wanted to lynch Wile.. the only thing he stuck on to was the "test" thing of his earlygame, asking players for meta.) He also defends / favourably views damdred on Page 10 of marv's filter, mostly discussion regarding this post of Dam's: Show nested quote +On September 15 2015 10:27 Damdred wrote:
Koshi is really town here like id be impressed if this is scum game koshi.
Geript has a few posts that give me a small amount of pause that he could potentially be town like his moosey read is something that he would do when he's town. But he just is lacking some form of curiosity he might has here.
That being said that one read on moosey really has me doubting my scum read currently. It just looks so towny of him to do.
The more I think about it the more I want to town read him and I defdinately don't want to lynch him now... Soft-defending a person that you've been trying to stay at a distance from? Gives me very much a scum-scum interaction feeling. Show nested quote +On September 18 2015 00:17 marvellosity wrote:
cop should totally check me, that sounds like a totally sensible use of a cop's resources. ^ During N1. Looks like a very obvious "Mafia GF with questionable thread presence trying to get easy cred with a greencheck" -ploy. I'd argue if marv was town, he wouldn't seriously suggest himself to be checked in that case. Then his filter is mainly filled with useless back and forth arguing with JAT, with the occasional mention of him looking at a ceph lynch favourably. It's not like he has too many options when he has never pushed for anything strongly, it'd probably be weird enough if he stepped his game out of nowhere and started to push someone.. so he's content with taking jabs at me, those jabs being very non-committal. (Do note the fearmongering as well, he talks about my experience at several points as something to be wary of.) ##vote marvellosityLet's continue lynching scum.
meh
I think the good points in this post were already made by me earlier and things like the "Palmar doesn't deserve those townreads" are just not alignment indicative. Also the last quoted post is clearly not serious and I don't know how you can miss that.
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On September 22 2015 22:19 KelsierSC wrote:Day3 Votecount marvellosity(5): scott31337, ritoky, justanothertownie, Palmar, Cephiro, justanothertownie(1): geript Not Voting (2): marvellosity, Damdred Voting ends in at 21:30 GMT (+00:00).
I protest against this votecount. I was the first vote on marv!
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On September 23 2015 00:55 Damdred wrote:
I really don't care if I get lynched, especially if amarv is mafia we gain a mislynch so it might be preferable.
You and rit are adorable though
Then why the fuck did you even sign up for this game if you don't want to play it?
And you called my play shit (partly for scumreading Wile and marv btw.). That's pretty rich.
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Also no, we do not gain a mislynch. We still have exactly one mislynch left.
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