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raynpelikoneet
Finland43266 Posts
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Damdred
15669 Posts
On September 15 2015 08:14 geript wrote: I don't get why anyone thinks Damdred isnt town. Fixed that for you | ||
justanothertownie
16316 Posts
On September 15 2015 08:17 Koshi wrote: dnu mafia Damdred might call me town without base. Also I am not sure that I was that townie 5 posts into the game rofl. But maybe Damdred became a genius. I was Koshi who trained him in his first game. Not really but I take the credit. That's like the only read I really agree with. | ||
Damdred
15669 Posts
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43266 Posts
On September 15 2015 08:18 justanothertownie wrote: That's like the only read I really agree with. Okay so why do you disagree with: ritoky town rayn town palmar town geript mafia ? | ||
raynpelikoneet
Finland43266 Posts
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justanothertownie
16316 Posts
On September 15 2015 08:21 raynpelikoneet wrote: Okay so why do you disagree with: ritoky town rayn town palmar town geript mafia ? My point was that I do not see any strong reason to read those people one way or the other while for Koshi I do. I think Palmar, geript and you are all easily capable of doing what they have done so far as either alignment. | ||
geript
10024 Posts
On September 15 2015 08:21 raynpelikoneet wrote: Okay so why do you disagree with: ritoky town rayn town palmar town geript mafia cephiro town ? I'd bet that 3 of these are false. Where's my Greymist points. | ||
justanothertownie
16316 Posts
On September 15 2015 08:22 raynpelikoneet wrote: and cephiro town Ok, that one is alright too. His sincerety felt kinda honest to me. | ||
raynpelikoneet
Finland43266 Posts
On September 15 2015 08:23 justanothertownie wrote: My point was that I do not see any strong reason to read those people one way or the other while for Koshi I do. I think Palmar, geript and you are all easily capable of doing what they have done so far as either alignment. what about ritoky and cephiro? and how does geript calling palmar mafia for something palmar did after geript called him mafia make geript not scummy? | ||
raynpelikoneet
Finland43266 Posts
On September 15 2015 08:24 geript wrote: I'd bet that 3 of these are false. Where's my Greymist points. I'd bet that you are 100% wrong with this statement. | ||
justanothertownie
16316 Posts
On September 15 2015 08:25 raynpelikoneet wrote: what about ritoky and cephiro? and how does geript calling palmar mafia for something palmar did after geript called him mafia make geript not scummy? Sometimes geript just says stupid stuff or has weird opinions noone else shares. It's the sad truth even though the argument looks good on paper. Ritoky also belongs in the list with Palmar/geript/you. Forgot him. | ||
Cephiro
Finland1934 Posts
Probably the only thing I dislike about his play so far is townreading Dam because he seems to share his views on Dam's reads. The things that make me feel rayn is town are mostly these two: 1) Calling out small, specific things and raising their significance where they might've otherwise gone unnoticed. ---a) Moosy's following post: + Show Spoiler + On September 15 2015 07:14 MoosyDoosy wrote: DId I draw attention to this post before? If I didn't I'm doing it now. ---b) Alternatively, clarifying what the "content" spoken of is, or pointing out a possible inconsistency.(Not going to start arguing whichever dam meant with little content, I personally don't consider it significant) + Show Spoiler + On September 15 2015 07:38 raynpelikoneet wrote: I am curious, where is this content from ritoky you are talking about? 2) The way he addressed the smurf player. Even though jat did this also afterward, combined with the filter as a whole rayn gets the points out of this in my reads. It's an approach I didn't think of at all, which is also why my own reply to him was much more neutral. Even if I don't necessarily agree with what rayn said being correct, (although I do believe most of the points he raised are valid), I very much liked the way that he pushed someone as soon as he saw a proper opportunity. I'm personally a firm believer that even if you're unsure, but believe someone to be mafia, you should pressure them. It makes them have to defend themselves, and regardless of the end result you've created more information for everyone to base their reads on. Best case scenario, your pressure might've caused a mafia to slip. Worst case scenario, you "wasted time", pushing a townie, but it might've helped people to get a read on both of you. Of course a mafia player is capable of doing this also, but in this case I'm much more inclined to believe that it's a town rayn pressuring something he didn't like, rather than a scum rayn pushing a mislynch agenda. | ||
geript
10024 Posts
On September 15 2015 08:26 raynpelikoneet wrote: I'd bet that you are 100% wrong with this statement. Can't be worse that 67% though! That's still above average. | ||
MoosyDoosy
United States4519 Posts
On September 15 2015 08:02 raynpelikoneet wrote: I am saying you are just outright lying. Even if you have not rolled mafia on TL you certainly have elsewhere i am 100% sure of it. So yes, cut the bullshit about meta and "wow i have never been scum" and play. Actually my first forum Mafia games were on TL. And I've only played real life Mafia a few times and I've actually rolled town/doctor in those games too. Never rolled mafia in my whole life. Quite unfortunate. | ||
MoosyDoosy
United States4519 Posts
On September 15 2015 08:27 Cephiro wrote: At the moment I'm most confident about my leaning townread on rayn. Probably the only thing I dislike about his play so far is townreading Dam because he seems to share his views on Dam's reads. The things that make me feel rayn is town are mostly these two: 1) Calling out small, specific things and raising their significance where they might've otherwise gone unnoticed. ---a) Moosy's following post: + Show Spoiler + On September 15 2015 07:14 MoosyDoosy wrote: DId I draw attention to this post before? If I didn't I'm doing it now. ---b) Alternatively, clarifying what the "content" spoken of is, or pointing out a possible inconsistency.(Not going to start arguing whichever dam meant with little content, I personally don't consider it significant) + Show Spoiler + On September 15 2015 07:38 raynpelikoneet wrote: I am curious, where is this content from ritoky you are talking about? 2) The way he addressed the smurf player. Even though jat did this also afterward, combined with the filter as a whole rayn gets the points out of this in my reads. It's an approach I didn't think of at all, which is also why my own reply to him was much more neutral. Even if I don't necessarily agree with what rayn said being correct, (although I do believe most of the points he raised are valid), I very much liked the way that he pushed someone as soon as he saw a proper opportunity. I'm personally a firm believer that even if you're unsure, but believe someone to be mafia, you should pressure them. It makes them have to defend themselves, and regardless of the end result you've created more information for everyone to base their reads on. Best case scenario, your pressure might've caused a mafia to slip. Worst case scenario, you "wasted time", pushing a townie, but it might've helped people to get a read on both of you. Of course a mafia player is capable of doing this also, but in this case I'm much more inclined to believe that it's a town rayn pressuring something he didn't like, rather than a scum rayn pushing a mislynch agenda. I liked the first part, less so the second part. | ||
justanothertownie
16316 Posts
On September 15 2015 08:28 MoosyDoosy wrote: Actually my first forum Mafia games were on TL. And I've only played real life Mafia a few times and I've actually rolled town/doctor in those games too. Never rolled mafia in my whole life. Quite unfortunate. That's not unfortunate. Being mafia sucks. | ||
Koshi
Belgium38797 Posts
On September 15 2015 08:27 geript wrote: Can't be worse that 67% though! That's still above average. Do you even math geript? ![]() | ||
marvellosity
United Kingdom36156 Posts
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Damdred
15669 Posts
The geript scum read is interesting because he's acting oddly at this point. Usually when he's in a game with me he know he can read me rather well and has caught me as scum a couple times and can read me town generally well. However he's not even waiting or trying to see if I can give some of my damdred town goodness that I am horrendous at faking. Instead he's content on disparaging my reads to a point and being content in saying he wants to lynch me. He also is missing some of his normal flair which isn't really indicative | ||
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