1) GlowingBear is mafia and does not get shot (mafia does not know who the doctor is and is medic dodging and therefore not shooting me)
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raynpelikoneet
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1) GlowingBear is mafia and does not get shot (mafia does not know who the doctor is and is medic dodging and therefore not shooting me) | ||
GlowingBear
Brazil12446 Posts
On September 09 2015 02:46 raynpelikoneet wrote: N1 there are only three plausible scenarios, from likeliest to unlikeliest: 1) GlowingBear is mafia and does not get shot 2) I doc GlowingBear (which i did) in case he is just a terrible townie saving his own skin from getting lynched by fakeclaiming -> noone dies -> GB is confirmed town 3) I die -> GB is confirmed mafia. OR Mafia KNOWS I'm the doctor, roleblocks me and kill the towniest guy in the game or goes after the other role. | ||
raynpelikoneet
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On September 09 2015 03:11 GlowingBear wrote: OR Mafia KNOWS I'm the doctor, roleblocks me and kill the towniest guy in the game or goes after the other role. Yeah sure. Like any mafia team would keep the non-cc'd power role alive. It's plain out retarded. Keep that up scum. | ||
GlowingBear
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On September 09 2015 02:28 Fidei86 wrote: 1. IDK, this is strange, since he'd basically be outing the cop. One explanation is that, as the medic, he'd be able to save the cop n1. But yeah, this is sub-optimal play because the medic can't save the same person on consecutive nights. Just as well the cop didn't claim, I guess. Still, this doesn't make him mafia, it just makes him wrong. 2. If he hadn't moved, he would have made himself an excellent choice for blue-sniping. He was an okay choice for mafia to shoot anyway, honestly, but still. If he says "I am never ever moving off GB ever", he definitely wears the shot and the roleblock. IDK, trying to WIFOM mafia night actions is hard, but this is probably the explanation that makes most sense. 3. Meh, maybe he thought that my argument (don't lynch GB because flips will out him in due course anyway) made him think that people weren't going to be up for lynching you today, so he thought he'd lead town in a more productive direction. In conclusion, yes, I agree the above are sub-optimal play / strange. But there is no way that they outweigh the fact that the other two options are: - rayn is mafia, and he CC'd you, thereby ensuring his death D3, where he would have been in no difficulty otherwise. Also his CC was so early in the day that it can't have been intended to save a scum-mate under pressure - nobody was under any pressure yet! This is just a terrible, terrible, terrible play from a mafia rayn, and it seems super unlikely. - rayn is VT. In which case he gets the aforementioned nad kicking for being the worst townie ever in the history of my experience in mafia. Tell me why he would risk kill a townie instead of obvious Mafia day 1 if he was the cop. If the problem was that he didn't want to out before so he wouldn't be sniped, why outing now? Your argument here doesn't make sense. You see, you even admit that Rayn as doctor is weird but that's SOLELY the reason why you're lynching me. That's why you're obviously Mafia with him. | ||
GlowingBear
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On September 09 2015 03:12 raynpelikoneet wrote: Yeah sure. Like any mafia team would keep the non-cc'd power role alive. It's plain out retarded. Keep that up scum. You KNOW this could happen because knowing who the power role is they just need to block that one and chase the second role, and waste day2 as it has been wasted here | ||
raynpelikoneet
Finland43266 Posts
On September 07 2015 07:16 raynpelikoneet wrote: shit got real. On September 07 2015 07:17 raynpelikoneet wrote: i am actually heavily considering to just doing this. On September 07 2015 07:20 raynpelikoneet wrote: no just lynch GB. On September 07 2015 07:25 raynpelikoneet wrote: 5min, the only acceptable switch is noobking. what do we do? quick,. On September 07 2015 07:26 raynpelikoneet wrote: ##Unvote ##Vote: n00bKing Ifcake gets lynched i am going to fucking yell at every single piece of shit of you who voted for her. On September 07 2015 07:28 raynpelikoneet wrote: mmm this ![]() he's dead anyways on D2. you can all make your own conclusions. i am done with talking to glowingbear. he is 100% mafia. | ||
Fidei86
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Anyway, yeah. Like I said, you're 95% Mafia. No chance I move off you. I've heard your arguments and I think mine are stronger. I liked Superbia's effort in his list post earlier, but I totally disagree with his Slam read. I basically think I need to get to grips with Cake, because I think figuring out her alignment will make this a bunch easier. I'm out this evening but I'll be back on tonight. | ||
raynpelikoneet
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On September 09 2015 03:31 Fidei86 wrote: I liked Superbia's effort in his list post earlier, but I totally disagree with his Slam read. I basically think I need to get to grips with Cake, because I think figuring out her alignment will make this a bunch easier. I'm out this evening but I'll be back on tonight. I actually think he is mafia for that post. Before it he claims "it will probably solve the game", and the post introduces 4 scumreads and a bunch of null-reads. ![]() | ||
GlowingBear
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On September 08 2015 06:47 raynpelikoneet wrote: I think the following people are mafia: NocturneMage, Slam, Fidei. meh i don't fucking know, maybe i am wrong on one of those and Moosy is actualyl scum. There is a chance GlowingBear is scum, but it will sort out itself anyways so i don't really care. I don't really feel like writing a lot of stuff now. NM: totally isn't reading the thread properly. There are things like: noobking himself said he wasn't pushing me. he is either not reading, or for some reason doesn't care. Furthermore he scumreads both noobking and Cake. Apparently noobkign was just being terrible all game but there was ZERO chance both of noobking and Cake are mafia, so scumreading both of htem makes absolutely no sense. Like his reads are not logical, and they do not make any sense at all. He isn't listening to what other people say at all. He is just calling some people scum for no reason. Fidei feels like he is not even in the game. Like he is just here and not doing anything at all. idk... i can't explain it better, he jsut isn't doing anything. And the vote switch from GB to boxer was super terrible, there is no way ANYONE should do that if they want to save someone. There was no chance boxerfred is gonna get lynched either way. Slam is scum. I don't care yamato, sorry. He is just scum because he isn't listening to me and he is not answering me. He dodges fucking questions and i don't like it. Kill with fire. If i am wrong on something then it's probably Moosy who is the last mafia. The noobking/cake read he had is like super bad and feels like he just wants two townies lynched. If you are do not lynch Cake on D2. She is not mafia and you should not trust people who want to lynch her. Mafia is gonna try that 100%. I promise. Glowingbear if you are town get your head out of your fucking ass and eat roleblocks for the rest of the game. Also if you do not doc me you are terrible as fuck. I don't care what you think. You have been super bad in this game and now is time to start playing properly if you are not mafia. yamato you can do this. I believe in you and Cake. Work together please and solve this shit. boxerfred and scott are not scum either. When they posted they talked about relevant things and had logical conclusions on stuff. If you compare this to for example James there is a huge fucking difference in how they approach the game. It should be really easy to see. Those are also lynches mafia is going to push (boxer/scott), they are easy to lynch because they do not generally post much. Townies do not fall into the trap. Superbia is not mafia either, ESPECIALLY if GB is town. It doesn't make any sense for him to push the lynch against GB if that was the case. If GB is mafia, i'd put Superbia into null-category. That could make sense. Although atm i do not believe GB to be mafia so only if he is scum and you guys catch him somehow, then re-evaluate Superbia. Mafia is basically in NM, James, Slam, Moosy(?) and GB(?). The last one will sort itself out, so do not worry about him. He'll claim roleblocked anyways. Do not claim in case GB is scum and you are blue, until someone who is town (basically not from the list above) is gonna get lynched. I would probably lynch Slam on D2. His posts have zero substance, and they don't even make any sense from slam!logic!pov. Again, he fails to answer questions that are super clear. Do not let him get away with it. I am sorry i did that on D1. goodluck | ||
raynpelikoneet
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yeah so you conclusde that i would cc you on N1 which is even more retarded than cc'ing you on D1. lol. | ||
GlowingBear
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Peope aren't here to play and I can't convince you your scum partner is scum. | ||
Fidei86
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CopCake
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> I played voice mafia with her I kinda laughed XD | ||
raynpelikoneet
Finland43266 Posts
1) i die and you are confirmed mafia anyways 2) i don't die in which case i can say what the fuck i want on N1 anyways ![]() | ||
raynpelikoneet
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GlowingBear
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On September 09 2015 03:36 raynpelikoneet wrote: yeah so you conclusde that i would cc you on N1 which is even more retarded than cc'ing you on D1. lol. If you were the doctor you would counter claim me at EOD1 to lynch obvious Mafia instead of possible mafia 100% of the times. | ||
CopCake
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1.- why would HE CLAIM DOCTOR if he was mafia? I mean he could be like "I already won town cred why the fuck do i need to claim doctor" it doesn't make sense, like seriously it doesnt, he is cc GB because GB just SAID HE PROTECTED SOMEONE. We lynch GB he does, shows up as doctor rayn is pretty much GG next day. 2.- For all those who have that case on me, I am sorry but I still can't see why I am mafia with that, I am not pocketing people, I do what I have to do and I just dont blindly ship. | ||
GlowingBear
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On September 09 2015 03:37 Fidei86 wrote: The only way this Rayn scum play makes sense is if he was betting on some dumb townies defending him to the hilt and then incriminating them upon his death. That would be kind of smart, I guess. But also super risky. Also in this scenario I'm the "dumb townie", so I choose not to believe it :-) He can say he was trying to protect who he thought it was the real doctor while pushing someone he felt was Mafia. Everything can be said. He can even be fucking VT doing that. He just simply isn't the doctor | ||
GlowingBear
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On September 09 2015 03:40 CopCake wrote: Either way, let's say rayn is scum 1.- why would HE CLAIM DOCTOR if he was mafia? I mean he could be like "I already won town cred why the fuck do i need to claim doctor" it doesn't make sense, like seriously it doesnt, he is cc GB because GB just SAID HE PROTECTED SOMEONE. We lynch GB he does, shows up as doctor rayn is pretty much GG next day. 2.- For all those who have that case on me, I am sorry but I still can't see why I am mafia with that, I am not pocketing people, I do what I have to do and I just dont blindly ship. I agree it's stupid but HE ISN'T THE FUCKING DOCTOR! The only way he is town doing this is when he is fucking VT so full of himself that he is sure I'm Mafia to the point he would do that. Which is fucking stupid | ||
boxerfred
Germany8360 Posts
On September 09 2015 02:46 raynpelikoneet wrote: N1 there are only three plausible scenarios, from likeliest to unlikeliest: 1) GlowingBear is mafia and does not get shot 2) I doc GlowingBear (which i did) in case he is just a terrible townie saving his own skin from getting lynched by fakeclaiming -> noone dies -> GB is confirmed town 3) I die -> GB is confirmed mafia. This is huge! I didn't even think of that. If rayn would've died and flipped Doc, GB would've been dead. Tbh I had rayn as the most likely target to go down and was really surprised when I saw yamato flip. I wondered why that was but I completely forgot about that since I looked into Fidei and was busy with the interactions with him. So here we have it quite clearly. This is the setup (as was known before) A) 1 Town Cop, 1 Town Doctor, 8 Vanilla Townies, 1 Mafia Roleblocker, 1 Mafia Godfather, 1 Mafia Goon GB claims to have been roleblocked. However this is easy to do since there is no notification being sent ("Notifications: Roleblocks are not notified."). So the good thing is we have a confirmed scum in rayn vs. GB. The bad thing is that rayn was forced to claim and thus is most likely a dead Simon Tam. Sidenote: this kind of clears me. I was afk for most of D1 and parked my vote on GB. When I realized EoD was later (not midnight but 0.30 AM) I went to bed, leaving my vote on GB who was the main wagon at this point! I'm as confirmed as it gets (or I have the biggest balls that mafia can have for hardcore yolo bussing). Sidenote #2: Where is Breshke? Sidenote #3: Is the spoilered vote count correct? I don't remember Fidei being so early on n00bking. + Show Spoiler + On September 07 2015 07:35 rsoultin wrote: Final Day 1 Votecount n00bking (7): Superbia, Fidei86, raynpelikoneet, yamato77, scott31337, GlowingBear, Alakaslam copcake (2): moosydoosy, nocturnemage GlowingBear (2): boxerfred, n00bking Alakaslam (1): Breshke scott31337 (1): CopCake Not Voting (0): Currently, n00bking was jettisoned out the gorram cargo bay with 7 votes. | ||
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