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justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
August 28 2015 20:43 GMT
#2261
On August 29 2015 04:56 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2015 04:33 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On August 29 2015 03:45 Vivax wrote:
On August 26 2015 22:47 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Palmar doesn't actually think JAT is mafia. I think he just wants to see who will sheep his flaccid case on the matter, and then call them mafia. For this reason, Palmar is town. Of course now I've ruined Palmar's plan. Soz


On August 26 2015 22:50 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On August 26 2015 22:48 marvellosity wrote:
On August 26 2015 22:47 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Palmar doesn't actually think JAT is mafia. I think he just wants to see who will sheep his flaccid case on the matter, and then call them mafia. For this reason, Palmar is town. Of course now I've ruined Palmar's plan. Soz

na he never does this


Then Palmar is mafia for tunneling on a terrible read.


Looky looky here! What happened to your palmar is mafia conditional? At the very least you should have been trying to determine if he's actually doing what your theory suggested and this late in the game he's still tunneling jat but you don't really seem to care.


I can't figure out Palmar. I can't tell if he's just being bad town or mafia. It's quite that simple. "This late in the game?" It's night 1. Vivax, this is a lame post.


You said literally he would be mafia and not bad town back then. This just looks like you backpedaling on what you said. You implied the entire jat tunnel was a reason in itself for somebody to be scum, marv said that Palmar doesn't do fake pushes, then you said "this means Palmar is mafia" (your former townread). Yet there is no sign of that being your belief throughout the rest of the filter.

I actually like this post.
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
August 28 2015 20:43 GMT
#2262
On August 29 2015 05:42 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2015 05:40 KelsierSC wrote:
On August 29 2015 05:39 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On August 29 2015 05:35 KelsierSC wrote:
On August 29 2015 05:34 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
KSC clearly hasn't read my mega post and is still buddying me despite me wanting to kill him.


i did read your mega post



Then why are you mafia buddying me? You just defended me against Vivax, and you've been doing this all game.


because vivax made a stupid post


That's true. But in my experience mafia are more likely to defend me than town are, especially given that most people have been terribly scumreading me this game.


i don't agree with the scum read on you

Zerg for Life
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
August 28 2015 20:44 GMT
#2263
On August 29 2015 05:40 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2015 05:38 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On August 29 2015 04:56 Vivax wrote:
On August 29 2015 04:33 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On August 29 2015 03:45 Vivax wrote:
On August 26 2015 22:47 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Palmar doesn't actually think JAT is mafia. I think he just wants to see who will sheep his flaccid case on the matter, and then call them mafia. For this reason, Palmar is town. Of course now I've ruined Palmar's plan. Soz


On August 26 2015 22:50 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On August 26 2015 22:48 marvellosity wrote:
On August 26 2015 22:47 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Palmar doesn't actually think JAT is mafia. I think he just wants to see who will sheep his flaccid case on the matter, and then call them mafia. For this reason, Palmar is town. Of course now I've ruined Palmar's plan. Soz

na he never does this


Then Palmar is mafia for tunneling on a terrible read.


Looky looky here! What happened to your palmar is mafia conditional? At the very least you should have been trying to determine if he's actually doing what your theory suggested and this late in the game he's still tunneling jat but you don't really seem to care.


I can't figure out Palmar. I can't tell if he's just being bad town or mafia. It's quite that simple. "This late in the game?" It's night 1. Vivax, this is a lame post.


You said literally he would be mafia and not bad town back then. This just looks like you backpedaling on what you said. You implied the entire jat tunnel was a reason in itself for somebody to be scum, marv said that Palmar doesn't do fake pushes, then you said "this means Palmar is mafia" (your former townread). Yet there is no sign of that being your belief throughout the rest of the filter.


I go over a bunch of possibilities in my head. I initially read Palmar town for reading Rsoultin as town very early on just like I had. I figured he was town coming to a similar conclusion despite his reasons for it. Palmar could have been doing a fake push, and that read was mostly sarcastic (though I wish it were true). Palmar could totally be mafia for pushing onto JAT for bad reasons, but there is no way I can know that for sure. I think you're playing entirely onto how confident my posts sound tone-wise. Focusing on my read on Palmar is entirely nit-picky. I am clearly attempting to figure out this game, moreso than 90% of people.

I still don't understand how you made this conclusion with any confidence, when the other option is that a mafiaPalmar simply townread rsoultin. Especially given your reasons were different.

boggles my mind tbh


Look. There were like 3 pages in the game. I'm reading. I think Rsoultin is town. One of Palmar's first post is that Rsoultin is 2% mafia, so I think "hey, we're on the same wavelength here, he might be town". You're acting as if I'm putting my 100% god faith in that Palmar is town because of this. I do not. It was one early game read that I felt comfortable jumping into the day with because it was true. Doesn't matter how illogical anyone else thinks it is, it was true.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
August 28 2015 20:44 GMT
#2264
On August 29 2015 05:44 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2015 05:40 marvellosity wrote:
On August 29 2015 05:38 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On August 29 2015 04:56 Vivax wrote:
On August 29 2015 04:33 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On August 29 2015 03:45 Vivax wrote:
On August 26 2015 22:47 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Palmar doesn't actually think JAT is mafia. I think he just wants to see who will sheep his flaccid case on the matter, and then call them mafia. For this reason, Palmar is town. Of course now I've ruined Palmar's plan. Soz


On August 26 2015 22:50 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On August 26 2015 22:48 marvellosity wrote:
On August 26 2015 22:47 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Palmar doesn't actually think JAT is mafia. I think he just wants to see who will sheep his flaccid case on the matter, and then call them mafia. For this reason, Palmar is town. Of course now I've ruined Palmar's plan. Soz

na he never does this


Then Palmar is mafia for tunneling on a terrible read.


Looky looky here! What happened to your palmar is mafia conditional? At the very least you should have been trying to determine if he's actually doing what your theory suggested and this late in the game he's still tunneling jat but you don't really seem to care.


I can't figure out Palmar. I can't tell if he's just being bad town or mafia. It's quite that simple. "This late in the game?" It's night 1. Vivax, this is a lame post.


You said literally he would be mafia and not bad town back then. This just looks like you backpedaling on what you said. You implied the entire jat tunnel was a reason in itself for somebody to be scum, marv said that Palmar doesn't do fake pushes, then you said "this means Palmar is mafia" (your former townread). Yet there is no sign of that being your belief throughout the rest of the filter.


I go over a bunch of possibilities in my head. I initially read Palmar town for reading Rsoultin as town very early on just like I had. I figured he was town coming to a similar conclusion despite his reasons for it. Palmar could have been doing a fake push, and that read was mostly sarcastic (though I wish it were true). Palmar could totally be mafia for pushing onto JAT for bad reasons, but there is no way I can know that for sure. I think you're playing entirely onto how confident my posts sound tone-wise. Focusing on my read on Palmar is entirely nit-picky. I am clearly attempting to figure out this game, moreso than 90% of people.

I still don't understand how you made this conclusion with any confidence, when the other option is that a mafiaPalmar simply townread rsoultin. Especially given your reasons were different.

boggles my mind tbh


Look. There were like 3 pages in the game. I'm reading. I think Rsoultin is town. One of Palmar's first post is that Rsoultin is 2% mafia, so I think "hey, we're on the same wavelength here, he might be town". You're acting as if I'm putting my 100% god faith in that Palmar is town because of this. I do not. It was one early game read that I felt comfortable jumping into the day with because it was true. Doesn't matter how illogical anyone else thinks it is, it was true.

while missing half the thread which was palmar and my conversation about it

it is all very weird.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
August 28 2015 20:45 GMT
#2265
On August 29 2015 05:43 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2015 05:42 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On August 29 2015 05:40 KelsierSC wrote:
On August 29 2015 05:39 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On August 29 2015 05:35 KelsierSC wrote:
On August 29 2015 05:34 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
KSC clearly hasn't read my mega post and is still buddying me despite me wanting to kill him.


i did read your mega post



Then why are you mafia buddying me? You just defended me against Vivax, and you've been doing this all game.


because vivax made a stupid post


That's true. But in my experience mafia are more likely to defend me than town are, especially given that most people have been terribly scumreading me this game.


i don't agree with the scum read on you



Or you are mafia and know I'm town.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
August 28 2015 20:49 GMT
#2266
On August 29 2015 05:45 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2015 05:43 KelsierSC wrote:
On August 29 2015 05:42 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On August 29 2015 05:40 KelsierSC wrote:
On August 29 2015 05:39 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On August 29 2015 05:35 KelsierSC wrote:
On August 29 2015 05:34 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
KSC clearly hasn't read my mega post and is still buddying me despite me wanting to kill him.


i did read your mega post



Then why are you mafia buddying me? You just defended me against Vivax, and you've been doing this all game.


because vivax made a stupid post


That's true. But in my experience mafia are more likely to defend me than town are, especially given that most people have been terribly scumreading me this game.


i don't agree with the scum read on you



Or you are mafia and know I'm town.


or i have reasons to town read you, good talk
Zerg for Life
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
August 28 2015 20:50 GMT
#2267
Btw. and only to reiterate: If there is a vigi he shoots Hopeless tonight. He hasn't lifted a single finger since the lynch despite having the most information of all townies if he is town.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
August 28 2015 20:50 GMT
#2268
On August 29 2015 05:44 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2015 05:44 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On August 29 2015 05:40 marvellosity wrote:
On August 29 2015 05:38 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On August 29 2015 04:56 Vivax wrote:
On August 29 2015 04:33 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On August 29 2015 03:45 Vivax wrote:
On August 26 2015 22:47 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Palmar doesn't actually think JAT is mafia. I think he just wants to see who will sheep his flaccid case on the matter, and then call them mafia. For this reason, Palmar is town. Of course now I've ruined Palmar's plan. Soz


On August 26 2015 22:50 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On August 26 2015 22:48 marvellosity wrote:
On August 26 2015 22:47 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Palmar doesn't actually think JAT is mafia. I think he just wants to see who will sheep his flaccid case on the matter, and then call them mafia. For this reason, Palmar is town. Of course now I've ruined Palmar's plan. Soz

na he never does this


Then Palmar is mafia for tunneling on a terrible read.


Looky looky here! What happened to your palmar is mafia conditional? At the very least you should have been trying to determine if he's actually doing what your theory suggested and this late in the game he's still tunneling jat but you don't really seem to care.


I can't figure out Palmar. I can't tell if he's just being bad town or mafia. It's quite that simple. "This late in the game?" It's night 1. Vivax, this is a lame post.


You said literally he would be mafia and not bad town back then. This just looks like you backpedaling on what you said. You implied the entire jat tunnel was a reason in itself for somebody to be scum, marv said that Palmar doesn't do fake pushes, then you said "this means Palmar is mafia" (your former townread). Yet there is no sign of that being your belief throughout the rest of the filter.


I go over a bunch of possibilities in my head. I initially read Palmar town for reading Rsoultin as town very early on just like I had. I figured he was town coming to a similar conclusion despite his reasons for it. Palmar could have been doing a fake push, and that read was mostly sarcastic (though I wish it were true). Palmar could totally be mafia for pushing onto JAT for bad reasons, but there is no way I can know that for sure. I think you're playing entirely onto how confident my posts sound tone-wise. Focusing on my read on Palmar is entirely nit-picky. I am clearly attempting to figure out this game, moreso than 90% of people.

I still don't understand how you made this conclusion with any confidence, when the other option is that a mafiaPalmar simply townread rsoultin. Especially given your reasons were different.

boggles my mind tbh


Look. There were like 3 pages in the game. I'm reading. I think Rsoultin is town. One of Palmar's first post is that Rsoultin is 2% mafia, so I think "hey, we're on the same wavelength here, he might be town". You're acting as if I'm putting my 100% god faith in that Palmar is town because of this. I do not. It was one early game read that I felt comfortable jumping into the day with because it was true. Doesn't matter how illogical anyone else thinks it is, it was true.

while missing half the thread which was palmar and my conversation about it

it is all very weird.


I figured she was towny from being excited and ready to get into the game. I agreed with Palmar's 1) point b.c. JAT's entrance was pretty lackluster, i dont think I ever said it though.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
August 28 2015 20:51 GMT
#2269
On August 29 2015 05:49 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2015 05:45 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On August 29 2015 05:43 KelsierSC wrote:
On August 29 2015 05:42 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On August 29 2015 05:40 KelsierSC wrote:
On August 29 2015 05:39 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On August 29 2015 05:35 KelsierSC wrote:
On August 29 2015 05:34 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
KSC clearly hasn't read my mega post and is still buddying me despite me wanting to kill him.


i did read your mega post



Then why are you mafia buddying me? You just defended me against Vivax, and you've been doing this all game.


because vivax made a stupid post


That's true. But in my experience mafia are more likely to defend me than town are, especially given that most people have been terribly scumreading me this game.


i don't agree with the scum read on you



Or you are mafia and know I'm town.


or i have reasons to town read you, good talk


Explain how Trfel and I had the best ideas about Hopeless being mafia, and that's why you were scumreading him.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
August 28 2015 20:52 GMT
#2270
On August 29 2015 05:44 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2015 05:40 marvellosity wrote:
On August 29 2015 05:38 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On August 29 2015 04:56 Vivax wrote:
On August 29 2015 04:33 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On August 29 2015 03:45 Vivax wrote:
On August 26 2015 22:47 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Palmar doesn't actually think JAT is mafia. I think he just wants to see who will sheep his flaccid case on the matter, and then call them mafia. For this reason, Palmar is town. Of course now I've ruined Palmar's plan. Soz


On August 26 2015 22:50 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On August 26 2015 22:48 marvellosity wrote:
On August 26 2015 22:47 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Palmar doesn't actually think JAT is mafia. I think he just wants to see who will sheep his flaccid case on the matter, and then call them mafia. For this reason, Palmar is town. Of course now I've ruined Palmar's plan. Soz

na he never does this


Then Palmar is mafia for tunneling on a terrible read.


Looky looky here! What happened to your palmar is mafia conditional? At the very least you should have been trying to determine if he's actually doing what your theory suggested and this late in the game he's still tunneling jat but you don't really seem to care.


I can't figure out Palmar. I can't tell if he's just being bad town or mafia. It's quite that simple. "This late in the game?" It's night 1. Vivax, this is a lame post.


You said literally he would be mafia and not bad town back then. This just looks like you backpedaling on what you said. You implied the entire jat tunnel was a reason in itself for somebody to be scum, marv said that Palmar doesn't do fake pushes, then you said "this means Palmar is mafia" (your former townread). Yet there is no sign of that being your belief throughout the rest of the filter.


I go over a bunch of possibilities in my head. I initially read Palmar town for reading Rsoultin as town very early on just like I had. I figured he was town coming to a similar conclusion despite his reasons for it. Palmar could have been doing a fake push, and that read was mostly sarcastic (though I wish it were true). Palmar could totally be mafia for pushing onto JAT for bad reasons, but there is no way I can know that for sure. I think you're playing entirely onto how confident my posts sound tone-wise. Focusing on my read on Palmar is entirely nit-picky. I am clearly attempting to figure out this game, moreso than 90% of people.

I still don't understand how you made this conclusion with any confidence, when the other option is that a mafiaPalmar simply townread rsoultin. Especially given your reasons were different.

boggles my mind tbh


Look. There were like 3 pages in the game. I'm reading. I think Rsoultin is town. One of Palmar's first post is that Rsoultin is 2% mafia, so I think "hey, we're on the same wavelength here, he might be town". You're acting as if I'm putting my 100% god faith in that Palmar is town because of this. I do not. It was one early game read that I felt comfortable jumping into the day with because it was true. Doesn't matter how illogical anyone else thinks it is, it was true.


meh

i ignored this the first time cause everyone who doesn't know me tends to either read me town (cause they're not aware of what i'm capable of) or can't comprehend my posts at all and call it shit posting. but maybe i shouldn't have. if you thought i was town so quickly, why would it be surprising to you for anyone else to, and why would that speak to their alignment at all?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
August 28 2015 20:52 GMT
#2271
On August 29 2015 05:51 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2015 05:49 KelsierSC wrote:
On August 29 2015 05:45 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On August 29 2015 05:43 KelsierSC wrote:
On August 29 2015 05:42 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On August 29 2015 05:40 KelsierSC wrote:
On August 29 2015 05:39 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On August 29 2015 05:35 KelsierSC wrote:
On August 29 2015 05:34 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
KSC clearly hasn't read my mega post and is still buddying me despite me wanting to kill him.


i did read your mega post



Then why are you mafia buddying me? You just defended me against Vivax, and you've been doing this all game.


because vivax made a stupid post


That's true. But in my experience mafia are more likely to defend me than town are, especially given that most people have been terribly scumreading me this game.


i don't agree with the scum read on you



Or you are mafia and know I'm town.


or i have reasons to town read you, good talk


Explain how Trfel and I had the best ideas about Hopeless being mafia, and that's why you were scumreading him.

uhmm?
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
August 28 2015 20:53 GMT
#2272
On August 29 2015 05:52 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2015 05:44 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On August 29 2015 05:40 marvellosity wrote:
On August 29 2015 05:38 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On August 29 2015 04:56 Vivax wrote:
On August 29 2015 04:33 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On August 29 2015 03:45 Vivax wrote:
On August 26 2015 22:47 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Palmar doesn't actually think JAT is mafia. I think he just wants to see who will sheep his flaccid case on the matter, and then call them mafia. For this reason, Palmar is town. Of course now I've ruined Palmar's plan. Soz


On August 26 2015 22:50 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On August 26 2015 22:48 marvellosity wrote:
On August 26 2015 22:47 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Palmar doesn't actually think JAT is mafia. I think he just wants to see who will sheep his flaccid case on the matter, and then call them mafia. For this reason, Palmar is town. Of course now I've ruined Palmar's plan. Soz

na he never does this


Then Palmar is mafia for tunneling on a terrible read.


Looky looky here! What happened to your palmar is mafia conditional? At the very least you should have been trying to determine if he's actually doing what your theory suggested and this late in the game he's still tunneling jat but you don't really seem to care.


I can't figure out Palmar. I can't tell if he's just being bad town or mafia. It's quite that simple. "This late in the game?" It's night 1. Vivax, this is a lame post.


You said literally he would be mafia and not bad town back then. This just looks like you backpedaling on what you said. You implied the entire jat tunnel was a reason in itself for somebody to be scum, marv said that Palmar doesn't do fake pushes, then you said "this means Palmar is mafia" (your former townread). Yet there is no sign of that being your belief throughout the rest of the filter.


I go over a bunch of possibilities in my head. I initially read Palmar town for reading Rsoultin as town very early on just like I had. I figured he was town coming to a similar conclusion despite his reasons for it. Palmar could have been doing a fake push, and that read was mostly sarcastic (though I wish it were true). Palmar could totally be mafia for pushing onto JAT for bad reasons, but there is no way I can know that for sure. I think you're playing entirely onto how confident my posts sound tone-wise. Focusing on my read on Palmar is entirely nit-picky. I am clearly attempting to figure out this game, moreso than 90% of people.

I still don't understand how you made this conclusion with any confidence, when the other option is that a mafiaPalmar simply townread rsoultin. Especially given your reasons were different.

boggles my mind tbh


Look. There were like 3 pages in the game. I'm reading. I think Rsoultin is town. One of Palmar's first post is that Rsoultin is 2% mafia, so I think "hey, we're on the same wavelength here, he might be town". You're acting as if I'm putting my 100% god faith in that Palmar is town because of this. I do not. It was one early game read that I felt comfortable jumping into the day with because it was true. Doesn't matter how illogical anyone else thinks it is, it was true.


meh

i ignored this the first time cause everyone who doesn't know me tends to either read me town (cause they're not aware of what i'm capable of) or can't comprehend my posts at all and call it shit posting. but maybe i shouldn't have. if you thought i was town so quickly, why would it be surprising to you for anyone else to, and why would that speak to their alignment at all?

quite
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
August 28 2015 20:54 GMT
#2273
On August 29 2015 05:51 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2015 05:49 KelsierSC wrote:
On August 29 2015 05:45 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On August 29 2015 05:43 KelsierSC wrote:
On August 29 2015 05:42 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On August 29 2015 05:40 KelsierSC wrote:
On August 29 2015 05:39 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On August 29 2015 05:35 KelsierSC wrote:
On August 29 2015 05:34 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
KSC clearly hasn't read my mega post and is still buddying me despite me wanting to kill him.


i did read your mega post



Then why are you mafia buddying me? You just defended me against Vivax, and you've been doing this all game.


because vivax made a stupid post


That's true. But in my experience mafia are more likely to defend me than town are, especially given that most people have been terribly scumreading me this game.


i don't agree with the scum read on you



Or you are mafia and know I'm town.


or i have reasons to town read you, good talk


Explain how Trfel and I had the best ideas about Hopeless being mafia, and that's why you were scumreading him.


Trefl had a good read on hopeless
I thought you agreed with it but I misread your post.
Zerg for Life
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
August 28 2015 20:55 GMT
#2274
like, essentially...and correct me if i'm wrong here

a town cc saw a player who was obvious, slamdunk (or at least as slamdunk as an early d1 can be) town, do to excitement and activity or whatever

some other player goes, damn, rsoul so townie

and town cc's reaction is to assume that what...a scum player couldn't possibly go...oh damn, rsoul is so townie i'm not gonna bother with her let's just give obvious town an obvious townread?

what?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
August 28 2015 20:56 GMT
#2275
On August 29 2015 05:49 KelsierSC wrote:
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On August 29 2015 05:45 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On August 29 2015 05:43 KelsierSC wrote:
On August 29 2015 05:42 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On August 29 2015 05:40 KelsierSC wrote:
On August 29 2015 05:39 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On August 29 2015 05:35 KelsierSC wrote:
On August 29 2015 05:34 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
KSC clearly hasn't read my mega post and is still buddying me despite me wanting to kill him.


i did read your mega post



Then why are you mafia buddying me? You just defended me against Vivax, and you've been doing this all game.


because vivax made a stupid post


That's true. But in my experience mafia are more likely to defend me than town are, especially given that most people have been terribly scumreading me this game.


i don't agree with the scum read on you



Or you are mafia and know I'm town.


or i have reasons to town read you, good talk


A recap of those reasons would be nice since marv is already going ham on CC with reasons that oppose your point of view.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
August 28 2015 20:57 GMT
#2276
On August 29 2015 05:52 rsoultin wrote:
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On August 29 2015 05:44 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On August 29 2015 05:40 marvellosity wrote:
On August 29 2015 05:38 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On August 29 2015 04:56 Vivax wrote:
On August 29 2015 04:33 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On August 29 2015 03:45 Vivax wrote:
On August 26 2015 22:47 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Palmar doesn't actually think JAT is mafia. I think he just wants to see who will sheep his flaccid case on the matter, and then call them mafia. For this reason, Palmar is town. Of course now I've ruined Palmar's plan. Soz


On August 26 2015 22:50 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On August 26 2015 22:48 marvellosity wrote:
On August 26 2015 22:47 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Palmar doesn't actually think JAT is mafia. I think he just wants to see who will sheep his flaccid case on the matter, and then call them mafia. For this reason, Palmar is town. Of course now I've ruined Palmar's plan. Soz

na he never does this


Then Palmar is mafia for tunneling on a terrible read.


Looky looky here! What happened to your palmar is mafia conditional? At the very least you should have been trying to determine if he's actually doing what your theory suggested and this late in the game he's still tunneling jat but you don't really seem to care.


I can't figure out Palmar. I can't tell if he's just being bad town or mafia. It's quite that simple. "This late in the game?" It's night 1. Vivax, this is a lame post.


You said literally he would be mafia and not bad town back then. This just looks like you backpedaling on what you said. You implied the entire jat tunnel was a reason in itself for somebody to be scum, marv said that Palmar doesn't do fake pushes, then you said "this means Palmar is mafia" (your former townread). Yet there is no sign of that being your belief throughout the rest of the filter.


I go over a bunch of possibilities in my head. I initially read Palmar town for reading Rsoultin as town very early on just like I had. I figured he was town coming to a similar conclusion despite his reasons for it. Palmar could have been doing a fake push, and that read was mostly sarcastic (though I wish it were true). Palmar could totally be mafia for pushing onto JAT for bad reasons, but there is no way I can know that for sure. I think you're playing entirely onto how confident my posts sound tone-wise. Focusing on my read on Palmar is entirely nit-picky. I am clearly attempting to figure out this game, moreso than 90% of people.

I still don't understand how you made this conclusion with any confidence, when the other option is that a mafiaPalmar simply townread rsoultin. Especially given your reasons were different.

boggles my mind tbh


Look. There were like 3 pages in the game. I'm reading. I think Rsoultin is town. One of Palmar's first post is that Rsoultin is 2% mafia, so I think "hey, we're on the same wavelength here, he might be town". You're acting as if I'm putting my 100% god faith in that Palmar is town because of this. I do not. It was one early game read that I felt comfortable jumping into the day with because it was true. Doesn't matter how illogical anyone else thinks it is, it was true.


meh

i ignored this the first time cause everyone who doesn't know me tends to either read me town (cause they're not aware of what i'm capable of) or can't comprehend my posts at all and call it shit posting. but maybe i shouldn't have. if you thought i was town so quickly, why would it be surprising to you for anyone else to, and why would that speak to their alignment at all?


I figured mafia would not be so quick to claim that you were town. It would be pretty easy to interpret most of your posting as, so you say, shit-posting and being mafia indicative. After all, you just poked people with sticks and gave some meager reads. I read that as towny excitement. Mafia can easily skew that to be useless filler.

I don't understand what the big deal is. Palmar came up with the same tentative conclusion I did early on about your alignment. Regardless of his reasons (which seemed OK), his train of thought seemed townie because it was similar to mine.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
August 28 2015 20:57 GMT
#2277
On August 29 2015 05:56 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2015 05:49 KelsierSC wrote:
On August 29 2015 05:45 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On August 29 2015 05:43 KelsierSC wrote:
On August 29 2015 05:42 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On August 29 2015 05:40 KelsierSC wrote:
On August 29 2015 05:39 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On August 29 2015 05:35 KelsierSC wrote:
On August 29 2015 05:34 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
KSC clearly hasn't read my mega post and is still buddying me despite me wanting to kill him.


i did read your mega post



Then why are you mafia buddying me? You just defended me against Vivax, and you've been doing this all game.


because vivax made a stupid post


That's true. But in my experience mafia are more likely to defend me than town are, especially given that most people have been terribly scumreading me this game.


i don't agree with the scum read on you



Or you are mafia and know I'm town.


or i have reasons to town read you, good talk


A recap of those reasons would be nice since marv is already going ham on CC with reasons that oppose your point of view.


agreed. i'd like to know your reasons for townreading cc as well, kels
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
August 28 2015 20:58 GMT
#2278
On August 29 2015 05:56 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2015 05:49 KelsierSC wrote:
On August 29 2015 05:45 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On August 29 2015 05:43 KelsierSC wrote:
On August 29 2015 05:42 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On August 29 2015 05:40 KelsierSC wrote:
On August 29 2015 05:39 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On August 29 2015 05:35 KelsierSC wrote:
On August 29 2015 05:34 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
KSC clearly hasn't read my mega post and is still buddying me despite me wanting to kill him.


i did read your mega post



Then why are you mafia buddying me? You just defended me against Vivax, and you've been doing this all game.


because vivax made a stupid post


That's true. But in my experience mafia are more likely to defend me than town are, especially given that most people have been terribly scumreading me this game.


i don't agree with the scum read on you



Or you are mafia and know I'm town.


or i have reasons to town read you, good talk


A recap of those reasons would be nice since marv is already going ham on CC with reasons that oppose your point of view.


I liked the tone of his posting early on, i agreed with his interpretation of the push on JAT. He didn't like wave which was the same as me.
The scum read on him is partly based on a game from years ago that I wasn't in so that has no relevance at all.
Zerg for Life
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
August 28 2015 20:58 GMT
#2279
On August 29 2015 05:57 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2015 05:52 rsoultin wrote:
On August 29 2015 05:44 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On August 29 2015 05:40 marvellosity wrote:
On August 29 2015 05:38 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On August 29 2015 04:56 Vivax wrote:
On August 29 2015 04:33 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On August 29 2015 03:45 Vivax wrote:
On August 26 2015 22:47 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Palmar doesn't actually think JAT is mafia. I think he just wants to see who will sheep his flaccid case on the matter, and then call them mafia. For this reason, Palmar is town. Of course now I've ruined Palmar's plan. Soz


On August 26 2015 22:50 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On August 26 2015 22:48 marvellosity wrote:
[quote]
na he never does this


Then Palmar is mafia for tunneling on a terrible read.


Looky looky here! What happened to your palmar is mafia conditional? At the very least you should have been trying to determine if he's actually doing what your theory suggested and this late in the game he's still tunneling jat but you don't really seem to care.


I can't figure out Palmar. I can't tell if he's just being bad town or mafia. It's quite that simple. "This late in the game?" It's night 1. Vivax, this is a lame post.


You said literally he would be mafia and not bad town back then. This just looks like you backpedaling on what you said. You implied the entire jat tunnel was a reason in itself for somebody to be scum, marv said that Palmar doesn't do fake pushes, then you said "this means Palmar is mafia" (your former townread). Yet there is no sign of that being your belief throughout the rest of the filter.


I go over a bunch of possibilities in my head. I initially read Palmar town for reading Rsoultin as town very early on just like I had. I figured he was town coming to a similar conclusion despite his reasons for it. Palmar could have been doing a fake push, and that read was mostly sarcastic (though I wish it were true). Palmar could totally be mafia for pushing onto JAT for bad reasons, but there is no way I can know that for sure. I think you're playing entirely onto how confident my posts sound tone-wise. Focusing on my read on Palmar is entirely nit-picky. I am clearly attempting to figure out this game, moreso than 90% of people.

I still don't understand how you made this conclusion with any confidence, when the other option is that a mafiaPalmar simply townread rsoultin. Especially given your reasons were different.

boggles my mind tbh


Look. There were like 3 pages in the game. I'm reading. I think Rsoultin is town. One of Palmar's first post is that Rsoultin is 2% mafia, so I think "hey, we're on the same wavelength here, he might be town". You're acting as if I'm putting my 100% god faith in that Palmar is town because of this. I do not. It was one early game read that I felt comfortable jumping into the day with because it was true. Doesn't matter how illogical anyone else thinks it is, it was true.


meh

i ignored this the first time cause everyone who doesn't know me tends to either read me town (cause they're not aware of what i'm capable of) or can't comprehend my posts at all and call it shit posting. but maybe i shouldn't have. if you thought i was town so quickly, why would it be surprising to you for anyone else to, and why would that speak to their alignment at all?


I figured mafia would not be so quick to claim that you were town. It would be pretty easy to interpret most of your posting as, so you say, shit-posting and being mafia indicative. After all, you just poked people with sticks and gave some meager reads. I read that as towny excitement. Mafia can easily skew that to be useless filler.

I don't understand what the big deal is. Palmar came up with the same tentative conclusion I did early on about your alignment. Regardless of his reasons (which seemed OK), his train of thought seemed townie because it was similar to mine.


so why didn't you see it as shit-posting?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
August 28 2015 20:59 GMT
#2280
On August 29 2015 05:58 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2015 05:56 Vivax wrote:
On August 29 2015 05:49 KelsierSC wrote:
On August 29 2015 05:45 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On August 29 2015 05:43 KelsierSC wrote:
On August 29 2015 05:42 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On August 29 2015 05:40 KelsierSC wrote:
On August 29 2015 05:39 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On August 29 2015 05:35 KelsierSC wrote:
On August 29 2015 05:34 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
KSC clearly hasn't read my mega post and is still buddying me despite me wanting to kill him.


i did read your mega post



Then why are you mafia buddying me? You just defended me against Vivax, and you've been doing this all game.


because vivax made a stupid post


That's true. But in my experience mafia are more likely to defend me than town are, especially given that most people have been terribly scumreading me this game.


i don't agree with the scum read on you



Or you are mafia and know I'm town.


or i have reasons to town read you, good talk


A recap of those reasons would be nice since marv is already going ham on CC with reasons that oppose your point of view.


I liked the tone of his posting early on, i agreed with his interpretation of the push on JAT. He didn't like wave which was the same as me.
The scum read on him is partly based on a game from years ago that I wasn't in so that has no relevance at all.


eh ye okay

they're weak but my reads are fairly weak/amorphous as well
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
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