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ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
August 23 2015 21:04 GMT
#1808
so you don't believe the guy who got warned for claiming his name is a day cop? and you don't believe his green check on breshke?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
August 23 2015 21:06 GMT
#1813
On August 24 2015 06:05 Fidei86 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2015 06:04 ritoky wrote:
so you don't believe the guy who got warned for claiming his name is a day cop? and you don't believe his green check on breshke?

Will double check thread and revert.


............can't even.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
August 23 2015 21:08 GMT
#1816
On August 24 2015 06:07 Fecalfeast wrote:
Starting to have bad feelings about LT


for nuking chez?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
August 23 2015 21:08 GMT
#1818
On August 24 2015 06:08 Fidei86 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2015 06:06 Fecalfeast wrote:
On August 24 2015 06:06 Fidei86 wrote:
On August 24 2015 06:05 Fidei86 wrote:
On August 24 2015 06:04 ritoky wrote:
so you don't believe the guy who got warned for claiming his name is a day cop? and you don't believe his green check on breshke?

Will double check thread and revert.

That was BM right?

yes

Day cop returns standard cop checks, but can check during the day?


yes
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
August 23 2015 21:10 GMT
#1821
On August 24 2015 06:08 Fecalfeast wrote:
never heard of a day cop


go to this link, click investigative you'll see it.

On August 10 2015 13:21 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2015 12:02 Onegu wrote:
On August 10 2015 11:30 ritoky wrote:
On August 10 2015 11:03 Breshke wrote:
I think rit misunderstood that when onegu said the frequent players will be roles he didn't mean he will be giving those players roles but actually making roles with their names.

Like someone could get the "Rsoultin" role if they are really unlucky


o, guess i might have misread it? the way it reads tho reads like role rigging rather than user names as roles.



No no no. IF you have been a active player you could be a actual role. Like people said you could get the rsoultin role if rsoulting is a role in this game...


well in case you ever need more role ideas:

http://mikeburnfire.deviantart.com/art/Mafia-Roles-72597749

“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
August 23 2015 21:12 GMT
#1823
On August 24 2015 06:09 Fidei86 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2015 06:06 ritoky wrote:
On August 24 2015 06:05 Fidei86 wrote:
On August 24 2015 06:04 ritoky wrote:
so you don't believe the guy who got warned for claiming his name is a day cop? and you don't believe his green check on breshke?

Will double check thread and revert.


............can't even.

... Wow. Like, I'm sorry, I've read the thread, and I'm trying to jump about between the thread and reading people's filters. Clearly I have an issue with skim reading, as I didn't really clock that post the first time around. But I don't see how it undermines my town read on him?


it underlines that you haven't read the thread and it tends to make me not take any of what you said very seriously. for example you talk a lot about my case on FF in the FF read section, but pretty close after my case on FF, both him and KSC claimed roles that fuck with their votes and since then i have been town reading them both, while FF believes one of the 3 of us is mafia due to over-saturation. you don't mention the day cop and the green check on breshke and instead give him some convoluted read. so it is clear to me you have not grasped the main parts of what very little has happened today.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
August 23 2015 21:18 GMT
#1828
On August 24 2015 06:14 Fidei86 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2015 06:12 ritoky wrote:
On August 24 2015 06:09 Fidei86 wrote:
On August 24 2015 06:06 ritoky wrote:
On August 24 2015 06:05 Fidei86 wrote:
On August 24 2015 06:04 ritoky wrote:
so you don't believe the guy who got warned for claiming his name is a day cop? and you don't believe his green check on breshke?

Will double check thread and revert.


............can't even.

... Wow. Like, I'm sorry, I've read the thread, and I'm trying to jump about between the thread and reading people's filters. Clearly I have an issue with skim reading, as I didn't really clock that post the first time around. But I don't see how it undermines my town read on him?


it underlines that you haven't read the thread and it tends to make me not take any of what you said very seriously. for example you talk a lot about my case on FF in the FF read section, but pretty close after my case on FF, both him and KSC claimed roles that fuck with their votes and since then i have been town reading them both, while FF believes one of the 3 of us is mafia due to over-saturation. you don't mention the day cop and the green check on breshke and instead give him some convoluted read. so it is clear to me you have not grasped the main parts of what very little has happened today.

Yes, I am sceptical of your role claim, but that's also not the reason I am scum reading you. Lots of people have made the case I just did already (your role is unlikely AND it doesn't mandate you to push your RNG read), but I've thought about it and, combined with my tone read on you, I'm pretty sure it makes you mafia.


i really don't care about your scum read tbh. i am town, and very clear town. if you're town you need to go find scum and ooze town cuz you're not doing it. you afk'd for 50 hours, went to vote on the lead wagon, promised a case, changed your mind, gave a case on a town that doesn't say anything, then gave some town reads with incorrect and incomplete information, all while demonstrating you didn't read over the 50 hours you were gone. can you see why no1 really sees you as town?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
August 23 2015 21:27 GMT
#1838
my wife is leaving a for a grills day/night thing now so i have to take care of my baby now. probably infrequent responses for a while at best.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
August 23 2015 22:43 GMT
#1952
On August 23 2015 13:05 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2015 11:08 Fecalfeast wrote:
On August 23 2015 10:55 ritoky wrote:
On August 23 2015 10:03 Fecalfeast wrote:
anyone wanna make a list post or something we can talk about?


i nominate you

would kill:
BM
KelsierSC
Ritoky
Chezinu
yamato77

would kill but probably shouldn't:
Damdred
fidei86

town reads:
fuck it


not a fan of your list, but i also don't think you're mafia. kels has a thing that fucks with his vote as well and you think he is lynchable? i think all 3 of us are town and geript is town since he was supposedly double green checked and had kp blocked on him.

town:
ritoky
geript
fecalfeast
kelsier
LT - assuming some type of vigi for now, come back to it later

3p:
damdred

potential mafia:
fidei - fucked off real hard after defending himself. 0 investment this phase. makes case on HTS town, HTS proceeds to die. still think d1 case is fine and he has done very little to try and find scum or change my opinion.

rayn - subs in and does balls. not town rayn, maybe cuz sub and not initially in the game but he is giving 0 shits so pressure him until he does or lynch him.

rels - i coached him as town, he is clearly trying to impersonate someone but no idea who it is. he is playing vastly different than he did when i coached him. his reads are static, they lack depth, they are mainstream, and he has done 0 vote analysis.

breshke - ain't done shit, fidei town read him for some utter bullshit so mafia by association.

Everyone else I don't even have a strong inclination either way on.


well, probably need to reconsider some shit since this post is very likely 1 for 4. i have probably been wrong quite a bit thus far.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
August 23 2015 22:46 GMT
#1953
On August 24 2015 07:40 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2015 05:57 ritoky wrote:
On August 24 2015 05:56 Rels wrote:
OK that is super true
rayn scumread geript when he came into the thread by just reading 30 posts
On August 21 2015 07:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:
geript and rels.

On August 21 2015 07:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:
idk i read like 30 posts or so.
that's what i got out of them.

that's literally all i got to say atm. i am dead tired so until tomorrow.
i'll read more in the morning.

After the night he still scumread him
On August 21 2015 16:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 21 2015 07:38 geript wrote:
On August 21 2015 07:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 21 2015 07:33 geript wrote:
On August 21 2015 07:30 The Shining wrote:
On August 21 2015 07:23 geript wrote:
There were 5 votes for Chez. 0 for VA. 0 for Yamato. 0 for Kelsier. Like wtf people. Listen to your betters. On the upside, Yamato, judgeJudy, fido and tube sock are now confirmed town. Anyone who tries to lynch them gets lynched period. If they're mafia, it's your fault. Seriously fucking listen to me I'm the best player alive.


Then lynch me. I don't understand how Tube is confirmed town.

Take a look at the vote count.

oh hey please tell me how does the town lynch make anyone anything?

There were 4 good lynches yesterday and 5 people who voted for any of those four. At very most, there's on mafia in those 4. That means it's better to look at the main wagon and the straggler votes.

You need to explain this further.
You mean like because you think there is mafia in the people who were main wagons yesterday there was mafia on ruxxar?

Well hey. Obviously it is likely there was mafia on ruxxar. Why would there not be.

But i dont like how you're trying to approach it. It sounds like a justification to look into certain people which it definitely isnt.

And now he's sheeping him.
Makes no sense.


except the part where y'know...damdred as 3p claimed a save on him/town conf....and kels claimed a green check on him. that could make it make sense....are you done?


Humm Rit is prob mafia for this post.


why? even if rayn was mafia that accusation was dumb. he literally was like "omg rayn flipped his read on a green checked person". that isn't a good accusation.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
August 24 2015 01:01 GMT
#1967
On August 24 2015 07:09 Onegu wrote:
Day 2 Votecount

Fecalfeast (2): ritoky, Bill Murray
Rels (5): Chezinu, geript, raynpelikoneet, Lord Tolkien, Tubesock
Yamato77 (3): ObiWanShinobi, yamato77, Rels
Chezinu (1): Breshke
The Shining (1): KelsierSC
raynpelikoneet (5): Damdred, Tictock, Fidei86, The Shining, JudgeJudy
geript (1): Fecalfeast

With Rayn getting 5 first. Rels was on rayn giving him 6 then moving his vote to yamato.

Rayn is lynched standby for day post.


On August 21 2015 07:08 rsoultin wrote:
FINAL Day 1 Votecount

ruXxar (7): Breshke, ObiWanShinobi, Lord Tolkien, Damdred, Half the Sky, Chezinu, Rels
Chezinu (5): geript, JudgeJudy, Tubesock, Fidei86, yamato77
Tubesock (2): The Shining, WaveofShadow
Fidei86 (2): ritoky, Tictock
ObiWanShinobi (1): ruXxar
WaveofShadow (1): Fecalfeast
Half the Sky (1): KelsierSC

Not Voting (2): VayneAuthority, Beneather

Ruxxar has been lynched with 7 votes.


gotta start rethinking the game, starting from this.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
August 24 2015 01:09 GMT
#1969
at MOST there's 1 mafia in the rayn lynch most likely. but that's tinfoil for a much later date, so for now i am just going to assume they are all town. which makes those look like this:

On August 24 2015 07:09 Onegu wrote:
Day 2 Votecount

Fecalfeast (2): ritoky, Bill Murray
Rels (5): Chezinu, geript, raynpelikoneet, Lord Tolkien, Tubesock
Yamato77 (3): ObiWanShinobi, yamato77, Rels
Chezinu (1): Breshke
The Shining (1): KelsierSC
raynpelikoneet (5): Damdred, Tictock, Fidei86, The Shining, JudgeJudy
geript (1): Fecalfeast

With Rayn getting 5 first. Rels was on rayn giving him 6 then moving his vote to yamato.

Rayn is lynched standby for day post.


On August 21 2015 07:08 rsoultin wrote:
FINAL Day 1 Votecount

ruXxar (7): Breshke, ObiWanShinobi, Lord Tolkien, Damdred, Half the Sky, Chezinu, Rels
Chezinu (5): geript, JudgeJudy, Tubesock, Fidei86, yamato77
Tubesock (2): The Shining, WaveofShadow
Fidei86 (2): ritoky, Tictock
ObiWanShinobi (1): ruXxar
WaveofShadow (1): Fecalfeast
Half the Sky (1): KelsierSC

Not Voting (2): VayneAuthority, Beneather

Ruxxar has been lynched with 7 votes.


so the list of possible mafia is:
obi
LT
chez
rels
tubesock
yamato
ff
kels

i was assuming ff and kels (and will continue to for now) are both town cuz of the stuff that messes with their vote. so that list becomes:

obi
LT
chez
rels
tubesock
yamato

of which i think obi is the most town.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
August 24 2015 01:10 GMT
#1970
On August 24 2015 10:07 Breshke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2015 07:22 Rels wrote:
On August 23 2015 15:08 Lord Tolkien wrote:
Person who really really needs to be checked is rayn. FFS, people, just because you guys think his role is marv doesn't mean he'll roll town. Ive been saying this consistently. It's in the same level as "oh hey ritoky rolled BH there's an 80% chance that role is scum" shit that geript was putting out D1, and i feel really good about ritoky despite lolrngvotes.

On August 24 2015 01:17 Lord Tolkien wrote:
All I'll say is that Rayn is a D3 lynch, and a N2 check.

On August 24 2015 05:48 Lord Tolkien wrote:
I said it before ill say it again, check that mofo.

LOLOLOL


Show nested quote +
On August 24 2015 07:26 Rels wrote:
On August 24 2015 07:25 Tictock wrote:
On August 24 2015 07:22 Rels wrote:
On August 23 2015 15:08 Lord Tolkien wrote:
Person who really really needs to be checked is rayn. FFS, people, just because you guys think his role is marv doesn't mean he'll roll town. Ive been saying this consistently. It's in the same level as "oh hey ritoky rolled BH there's an 80% chance that role is scum" shit that geript was putting out D1, and i feel really good about ritoky despite lolrngvotes.

On August 24 2015 01:17 Lord Tolkien wrote:
All I'll say is that Rayn is a D3 lynch, and a N2 check.

On August 24 2015 05:48 Lord Tolkien wrote:
I said it before ill say it again, check that mofo.

LOLOLOL


And what about that makes him mafia?

On August 24 2015 07:13 Onegu wrote:
Rayn as marvelosity has been lynched.

You are a Paranoid Gun Owner. Anyone who visits you will be killed.




What do you think about these posts rit


i think they are both on the list of people i am shooting tonight
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
August 24 2015 01:12 GMT
#1972
On August 24 2015 10:11 Fidei86 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2015 10:01 ritoky wrote:
On August 24 2015 07:09 Onegu wrote:
Day 2 Votecount

Fecalfeast (2): ritoky, Bill Murray
Rels (5): Chezinu, geript, raynpelikoneet, Lord Tolkien, Tubesock
Yamato77 (3): ObiWanShinobi, yamato77, Rels
Chezinu (1): Breshke
The Shining (1): KelsierSC
raynpelikoneet (5): Damdred, Tictock, Fidei86, The Shining, JudgeJudy
geript (1): Fecalfeast

With Rayn getting 5 first. Rels was on rayn giving him 6 then moving his vote to yamato.

Rayn is lynched standby for day post.


On August 21 2015 07:08 rsoultin wrote:
FINAL Day 1 Votecount

ruXxar (7): Breshke, ObiWanShinobi, Lord Tolkien, Damdred, Half the Sky, Chezinu, Rels
Chezinu (5): geript, JudgeJudy, Tubesock, Fidei86, yamato77
Tubesock (2): The Shining, WaveofShadow
Fidei86 (2): ritoky, Tictock
ObiWanShinobi (1): ruXxar
WaveofShadow (1): Fecalfeast
Half the Sky (1): KelsierSC

Not Voting (2): VayneAuthority, Beneather

Ruxxar has been lynched with 7 votes.


gotta start rethinking the game, starting from this.


I see no world in which the Rayn wagon isn't pure, unless maybe Rels is Mafia as well? The whole thing was organised with about five minutes to go. Even one of them not switching means that Mafia can consolidate onto Rels and take the kill. But even that doesn't really make sense, because Yamato was a much easier target than Rayn, so a Mafia Rela just moves people in that direction. Unless Yamato is also Mafia, but I don't see a world where that is possible.

So, yeah. I don't see a world where two of us don't die tonight. If we have any protective roles, I think it should be obvious where to aim them.


you missed a post there
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
August 24 2015 01:15 GMT
#1974
i guess i doubt that LT and rels could be together based on what breshke just quoted. so revised list:
chez
1 of rels & LT
tubesock
yamato
obi
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
August 24 2015 01:18 GMT
#1977
On August 24 2015 10:15 Fidei86 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2015 10:09 ritoky wrote:
at MOST there's 1 mafia in the rayn lynch most likely. but that's tinfoil for a much later date, so for now i am just going to assume they are all town. which makes those look like this:

On August 24 2015 07:09 Onegu wrote:
Day 2 Votecount

Fecalfeast (2): ritoky, Bill Murray
Rels (5): Chezinu, geript, raynpelikoneet, Lord Tolkien, Tubesock
Yamato77 (3): ObiWanShinobi, yamato77, Rels
Chezinu (1): Breshke
The Shining (1): KelsierSC
raynpelikoneet (5): Damdred, Tictock, Fidei86, The Shining, JudgeJudy
geript (1): Fecalfeast

With Rayn getting 5 first. Rels was on rayn giving him 6 then moving his vote to yamato.

Rayn is lynched standby for day post.


On August 21 2015 07:08 rsoultin wrote:
FINAL Day 1 Votecount

ruXxar (7): Breshke, ObiWanShinobi, Lord Tolkien, Damdred, Half the Sky, Chezinu, Rels
Chezinu (5): geript, JudgeJudy, Tubesock, Fidei86, yamato77
Tubesock (2): The Shining, WaveofShadow
Fidei86 (2): ritoky, Tictock
ObiWanShinobi (1): ruXxar
WaveofShadow (1): Fecalfeast
Half the Sky (1): KelsierSC

Not Voting (2): VayneAuthority, Beneather

Ruxxar has been lynched with 7 votes.


so the list of possible mafia is:
obi
LT
chez
rels
tubesock
yamato
ff
kels

i was assuming ff and kels (and will continue to for now) are both town cuz of the stuff that messes with their vote. so that list becomes:

obi
LT
chez
rels
tubesock
yamato

of which i think obi is the most town.


Can you please remind me why Geript, BM and Bres are confirmed town? BM's green check on Bres could be fake? And Geript?


BM claimed day cop with a green check on Breshke, he also claimed his name (which is a play mafia likely wouldn't make because it had a high potential of resulting in modkill) he also did it w/ no real pressure or reasoning so hard to see it being a lie.

geript had kp blocked on him by damdred last night (according to damdred who is 3p) and also because the kp block worked it confirms him as town or something. kelsiersc also claimed that him complying with the thing that messed with his vote gave him a cop check and he greened geript. i figure both can't be lying.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
August 24 2015 01:28 GMT
#1980
On August 24 2015 10:24 Tictock wrote:
I think we can assume Rels is town since Rayn was advocating his lynch.

His switch EoD to Yam doesn't really mean much imo and he was helping push people onto rayn when he coulda easily been pushing yam more.

I have a hard time understanding why Obi is the most town out of your list here rit
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2015 10:09 ritoky wrote:
obi
LT
chez
rels
tubesock
yamato

of which i think obi is the most town.


Everything I've seen from obi is consistent with his scum game.



rels would be the most town except for the unvote which opened the door for tube + 1 to change votes and potentially not lynch marv. so i have some hesitations about him.

obi is the most town because he talks the most and was posting and advancing the game at times where it didn't feel necessary if he was mafia. that said i haven't read his entire filter and i plan to before the night is over because he is on the list of people who might get shot.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
August 24 2015 01:28 GMT
#1982
marv, rayn fucking name sorting in my head.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
August 24 2015 01:30 GMT
#1984
On August 24 2015 10:28 Fidei86 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2015 10:19 Breshke wrote:
Also geript and HTS both hard townread me so i dont think I let my mafia team kill them

A great woman (rsoult) once told me not to get too much into the NK WIFOM. Hts and WoS' reads are just as valuable to you if they're dead. Maybe more so, because then you could ride the cred home.

I'm not saying you're Mafia, just that it's nowhere near as strong evidence as the last minute shenanigans we just pulled off onto Mafia.


i mean....do you think BM is not a day cop? cuz i think so even to the extent where i would call him nearly mod confirmed. which makes breshke a near mod confirmed green check....that's pretty fucking convincing.
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ritoky
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August 24 2015 01:31 GMT
#1986
On August 24 2015 10:28 Breshke wrote:
Look so Rels/LT are probably not mafias together right.

Also yamato anti nuked LT's nuke on chez. It is possible that this was a fake nuke or yamato doesn't give a fuck so isnt playing logically but in a world where neither of these are true.

Yamato and LT are likely not mafia together

If yamato or chez is mafia the other is likely not mafia

Chez and LT are likely not mafia together

So these are the two groups of people that can be mafia together

Chez rels tube yama obi

LT, tube, obi

So in the case that LT is mafia i feel like these is probably a mafia somewhere in the town circle thingy because i dont really think obi is mafia



i would look into 1 of kels or FF if the list i provided doesn't pan out. but making too many unflipped associative reads isn't exactly great.
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