[M][T] The New Personality Mafia - Page 5

WaveofShadow

Canada31495 Posts

August 20 2015 22:42 GMT

#1186

On August 21 2015 07:38 Damdred wrote:
Idk why geript thinks I'm scum suddenly when he was pre try convinced I was third party which I am.

Sadly he will probably shoot,me,and,I'll lose

I dunno man when it comes to people claiming stuff as scum you are a guy who tends to do it.

WaveofShadow

Canada31495 Posts

August 20 2015 22:45 GMT

#1187

On August 21 2015 07:41 geript wrote:

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The CheZinU block says nothing about Chez's alignment. It's the fact that 5 people ended the day with a good vote. 7 ended the day on someone who was very likely to flip town and had been explained as such by multiple people multiple times.

Like... What you're explaining here is the game of mafia.

Like I know you're you but it still baffles me sometimes that anyone thinks that an entire game would ever just simply do what one person says without questioning anything and be so arrogant as to assume they are absolutely and infallibly correct even after time and time again this has been false.

WaveofShadow

Canada31495 Posts

August 21 2015 15:32 GMT

#1265

Don't waste a cop check on damdred.
There a whole bunch of better targets.

WaveofShadow

Canada31495 Posts

August 21 2015 17:37 GMT

#1279

I stayed on Tubesock.

WaveofShadow

Canada31495 Posts

August 21 2015 17:40 GMT

#1280

I do support you being so afraid of me you have to policy lynch me though lol

I still think HtS and Rels are town though
Reasoning on Rels originally was

On August 20 2015 20:45 WaveofShadow wrote:

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Might be wrong but love his thinking.
Town pile
Tube sock comes off worse looking than fidei imo

Genuine on the spot analysis looked really towny here during that argument.

I don't agree that Rels should be the shot---it should be someone who is actually not playing/difficult to figure out otherwise.

WaveofShadow

Canada31495 Posts

August 21 2015 17:50 GMT

#1283

On August 22 2015 02:45 geript wrote:

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That's a really bad townread Wave. Like really bad. That post is super easy to make as mafia. It's correct, but there's not interesting analysis there. It's literally just a summary of an easy target.

Like, you should look at his Newbie game. It's totally different. Link here

It also has to do with the timing of it, and possibly the tone, but whatever.
Honeybunny, you know I respect your opinions the majority of the time but I really think you're wrong here.

If you're here though we should talk about some stuff in general before deadline.

WaveofShadow

Canada31495 Posts

August 21 2015 17:55 GMT

#1287

On August 22 2015 02:53 geript wrote:
I'm sort of around and going back over the day to see what I missed. Can you present a better argument for why he's town? I just don't really buy your feels/tone on this.

I'm not a huge fan of filter diving these days because going back and attempting to determine alignment based on everything they've done has done nothing for me---I appear to be a little better at determining 'in the moment' reads.
I'll go back and look a little though.
As far as I remember though I just don't think anything he's done has seemed scummy to me.

WaveofShadow

Canada31495 Posts

August 21 2015 17:58 GMT

#1288

On August 21 2015 16:41 Rels wrote:
rayn what is your read on WOS. I think he's the only person townreading me late in D1 and it's super weird

This one stands out a little actually.
Don't see scum attempting to turn on me when our reads have been in alignment for almost the entire game.
Looks like typical paranoia which he then gets over with an easy-to-follow thought process.

On August 21 2015 17:00 Rels wrote:
OK WOS' EOD was good actually
stating ruxxar was likely town 'cause mafia shows up and defend themselves at deadline
pushing for tubesock
hope tubesock is shot actually so we have infos

Rels is town.

WaveofShadow

Canada31495 Posts

August 21 2015 18:12 GMT

#1300

On August 22 2015 03:08 Half the Sky wrote:
Rels, you are mafia for your reactions at EoD. Come on.

EoD reactions don't mean nearly as much as you think.
I've been called scum as town multiple times for not reacting the way people 'expect' after a lynch.
Not buying it.

WaveofShadow

Canada31495 Posts

August 21 2015 18:13 GMT

#1303

On August 22 2015 03:10 Half the Sky wrote:

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If Rels/Yamato are getting shot then DT check (assuming it's not a parity we have) Kelsier/Chez, even Tubesock.

This I agree with, but ultimately whoever is vig/cop do what you feel is right.

WaveofShadow

Canada31495 Posts

August 21 2015 18:23 GMT

#1311

For the record I think I've brought this up already but this is how KSC played last time we were scum together.
Would support a KSC shot.

WaveofShadow

Canada31495 Posts

August 21 2015 18:27 GMT

#1314

On August 22 2015 03:25 Half the Sky wrote:
Damdred's voting of ruXxar IS consistent with the first wave of reads he provided. I remember demanding reads and though he did it in character speak I was able to interpret that ruxxar was one of his top scum reads.

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Now the REAL question is why Damdred voted ruXxar over Chez, both were very close. If Chez flips mafia, this would greatly support an argument for Damdred being mafia or anti-town third party if he is third party.

Something I've learned is that consistency seems to be more of a mafia trait than a town one because scum is more concerned with making sure their reads constantly line up, and they don't change their minds very often. When you can see a solid thought process along with that consistency then fine, but I'd be wary of using that consistency alone as a read one way or another.

I like geript's thoughts on what Damdred should be thinking in regards to reads though and he has consistently proven he is able to read damdred very well. I don't inherently trust the 3P claim.

WaveofShadow

Canada31495 Posts

August 21 2015 18:33 GMT

#1320

I want to change the subject a little because I'm around right now and want to hash out some thoughts with people.
Breshke has been RPing (to great effect I must add, well done) but what are people's thoughts on him? I think every time I've played with him I've been scum so it's easy for me tos ay he's seemed obvious town every time, but now from an outside perspective, especially with the RP it's a little more difficult.