EPTDeciding vote is you Damdred.
I wont blame you for fear voting me.
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Tictock
United States6052 Posts
Deciding vote is you Damdred. I wont blame you for fear voting me. | ||
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geript
10024 Posts
On September 02 2015 04:19 JudgeJudy wrote: ![[image loading]](http://gifrific.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/Joey-Crawford-Block-Call-Dance-Lakers-Pacers.gif) That point is really important though. As a town roleblocker, you've got an incredibly powerful role, you're essentially a cop plus a medic because you can block the mafia kp and then when the kp never shows up, you can lynch the guy you blocked. He is roleblocking the towny HTS, the claimed survivor who almost certainly isn't carrying out the mafia kp, and yourself, the guy who already has a green check on him. Like the only good claimed rb was chez. He thought you of all people was the guy most likely to carry out the mafia kp last night? All today he attacks me for arguing against the "99%" confirmed town, yet here he is roleblocking another "99%" confirmed town to try to stop the mafia kp. There is a reason he has to do this though. He already claimed rb so he has to claim targeting someone, yet he can't block someone like me, obi or TT because that would mean his lynch pool is reduced by one each time he confirms another player. Doesn't this make sense to you? It's not a point I've forgotten, but I don't think it's right to lynch him today. Like there's a greater than 0% chance that he's town. In the least the greencheck affords him a 25% chance of being town at worst. Plus, it's not like mafia aren't essentially forced to NK him if the RB can hit them. Right now I think there's 7 people. He can't RB me, or Fido, or Damdred. That leaves him 3 people he can claim an rb on. Like he's only got a win condition if he has a partner still alive. If he's mafia, we can only lose if Damdred isn't a survivor. Strategically, he's just a very bad lynch today and maybe tomorrow too. | ||
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geript
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Fidei86
United Kingdom2116 Posts
But my read on TT basically stems back to the fact that at EOD2 I was convinced that all three wagons (me, Rels and Yamato) were town. There actually was a serious wagon on me. TT and Rels were the only two there (at least, it felt like) who were thinking the same thing I was. In honesty, I wasn't even really scum reading Rayn particularly, but I really thought all the wagons were bogus and I was sure Rels was town. If TT isn't there I really and truly don't think the wagon on rayn gets started, let alone succeeds. I don't see why scum TT bothers. | ||
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Fidei86
United Kingdom2116 Posts
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Tictock
United States6052 Posts
On September 02 2015 04:57 geript wrote: It's not a point I've forgotten, but I don't think it's right to lynch him today. Like there's a greater than 0% chance that he's town. In the least the greencheck affords him a 25% chance of being town at worst. Plus, it's not like mafia aren't essentially forced to NK him if the RB can hit them. Right now I think there's 7 people. He can't RB me, or Fido, or Damdred. That leaves him 3 people he can claim an rb on. Like he's only got a win condition if he has a partner still alive. If he's mafia, we can only lose if Damdred isn't a survivor. Strategically, he's just a very bad lynch today and maybe tomorrow too. This is an interesting point, but if I were to flip town where would that leave you tomorrow? | ||
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JudgeJudy
188 Posts
On September 02 2015 04:58 geript wrote: Do your bomb(s) go off you get lynched JJ? ![[image loading]](http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/fantendo/images/b/be/King_Bob-Omb.gif) Yessir. | ||
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Damdred
15669 Posts
On September 02 2015 04:42 Tictock wrote: Looks like it's 3 to 3 Rit and Me Deciding vote is you Damdred. I wont blame you for fear voting me. How is anything I'm doing fear siding? I'm being pretty rational at this point in time and trying to make a decent decision. | ||
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Tictock
United States6052 Posts
I'm totally like the worst lynch ever. Also, that's fun to know JJ. | ||
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Fidei86
United Kingdom2116 Posts
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geript
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Tictock
United States6052 Posts
On September 02 2015 05:11 Damdred wrote: How is anything I'm doing fear siding? I'm being pretty rational at this point in time and trying to make a decent decision. More than anyone it looks like your struggling since you seem to have pretty decent reasons to townread all of us. Seems like people have a hard time reading me and I managed to avoid you in HG. Fear could well be a motivator here. Ironic eh? The fate of either Rit or myself lies in the hands of our 3p Survivor... | ||
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geript
10024 Posts
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Tictock
United States6052 Posts
On September 02 2015 05:17 Fidei86 wrote: Question: if kp are factionally delivered, does the rb on Mafia achieve anything? KP is definitely not fractionally delivered. | ||
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Damdred
15669 Posts
Its only after kel myself really come back and start shenanigans that you vote him. So why weren't you so ready to vote him and just settled on Fidel? Especially with so much time left.. | ||
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Damdred
15669 Posts
Lackluster says 20 minutes before eod no chance of a switch and when a switch happens he jumps on. its weird | ||
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Damdred
15669 Posts
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Tictock
United States6052 Posts
Honestly I just remember being disappointing nobody else was willing to jump on Rayn over Rels at that point, kus I was pretty sure Rels wasn't mafia. I really don't recall why I hopped on Fidie, just that I was kinda swinging my opinion on him a lot D1 and 2. Humm.... Didn't Fidei rejoin EoD promising some big case on Rels, then swapped it to Rit? That mighta been why I switched. Retrospect that just makes me believe Fidei's watcher claim all the more, he even claimed that whole case switch was to throw people off. | ||
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Fidei86
United Kingdom2116 Posts
On September 01 2015 20:30 Fidei86 wrote: @TT I've been through your filter and it seems that you were pretty much in the tank for an Obi lynch today. But you've ended up sort of going along with JJ's ritoky push. Yes, you did say just after that that you thought ritoky was scummy, but this jarred me a little bit going through your filter. It doesn't seem like you've made much of a concerted push on Obi today. Can you explain? @TT would like your response to this please. | ||
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Fidei86
United Kingdom2116 Posts
On September 02 2015 05:28 Tictock wrote: I believe that was after I had tried to start a lynch on rayn, then unvoted to Fidei. Honestly I just remember being disappointing nobody else was willing to jump on Rayn over Rels at that point, kus I was pretty sure Rels wasn't mafia. I really don't recall why I hopped on Fidie, just that I was kinda swinging my opinion on him a lot D1 and 2. Humm.... Didn't Fidei rejoin EoD promising some big case on Rels, then swapped it to Rit? That mighta been why I switched. Retrospect that just makes me believe Fidei's watcher claim all the more, he even claimed that whole case switch was to throw people off. I came back, voted Rels (for some reason, I think it was because I was town reading more people on the Rels wagon than on the Yamato wagon, although that sounds dumb now I say it out loud), then wrote a long case on ritoky. This was before I had received my upgrade, so I sort of thought "screw it, I'll get my read out so at least people have that if I get lynched". I was literally about one minute away from claiming, before the momentum moved elsewhere. @TT People were scum reading me because I'd been absent all of the day cycle (which was fair enough). But then I was hyper-frenetic and managed to make up for it all with my contribution to the rayn switch (which I am fairly proud of, if I do say so myself, although I think Rels gets like 80% of the credit). | ||
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