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Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
August 30 2015 10:30 GMT
#3621
On August 30 2015 19:26 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2015 19:14 Fidei86 wrote:
On August 30 2015 19:12 Tictock wrote:
How do you figure Jester is pro-mafia Fidei?

Because they are trying to get lynched, but lynching them don't take town any further forward. Basically town wastes a day on a total distraction, while Mafia march towards Lylo.


Like I get that you feel Yam played this way, but trying to say the role itself is mafia aligned is pretty silly.

anti-nuke, +Possible Masons & Vest

Eh, I suppose the role could be played out any way the person wants. Sounds really similar to the role Damdred has though, so it's funny you say it's clearly mafia aligned.

WTF? How else would you play a character who is trying to get lynched??
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
August 30 2015 10:31 GMT
#3622
@Rels I said that because geript seemed to be asking why I visited JJ N2
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 30 2015 10:32 GMT
#3623
On August 30 2015 19:31 Fidei86 wrote:
@Rels I said that because geript seemed to be asking why I visited JJ N2

No he said it's weird nobody visited JJ D2.
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
August 30 2015 10:35 GMT
#3624
Meh it was ambiguous, I thought. But if his question is "why hasn't towny player X died?" then there are plenty of good candidates for that tin foil conspiracy. If KSC doesn't flip red then we will have to do a full re-evaluate.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
August 30 2015 14:43 GMT
#3625
Jester are anti-town pro mafia
Survivors are generally neutral until it's a landslide one or the other side. Unless they town side early.

Besides that it's probably suck team of 4 1 traitor, 1 jester and survivor.

It could be 6 mafia total but idk fee is strange.

And rit most of the game has lynched 2 some three mafia. However chez fives the least cred out of all of them... though shooting yamato is pro town. Your gotcha moment felt towny to a point... but on the traitor which makes it difficult.

Besides that I don't think you should rb me but rb someone who could be scum to try to stop kp it's more like a cop,check in this situation than anything else.

Like rels is probably town here or made one of the best scum plays for awhile
Fid is town I really feel
I'm survivor
Rit is probably town but he's not confirmed like he Saud
JJ is town I believe helped lynch rayn when he didn't have to.
TT is town feeling and his push on rayn makes me town read him still and his other posts weren't horrible but...tinfoil
Geript feels a bit town

Like ksc gets nuked.

I'd either block,ksc/or tinfoil block TT to confirm him.

But idk kinda hard if ksc isn't scum
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 30 2015 14:56 GMT
#3626
And Obi is town.
:D
Retired.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
August 30 2015 14:58 GMT
#3627
That's true but I explained that earlier.

ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 30 2015 15:04 GMT
#3628
I just wanted to repeat it for the plebs in the room.
Retired.
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
August 30 2015 15:14 GMT
#3629
Shit, if the third party thinks you're town, that's basically confirmed.

>>

Can everyone please stop saying they are confirmed town, when the reasons are "I voted on the same wagons that everyone else voted on". Because there has to be at least one more Mafia, and it's obviously possible it's not KSC.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 30 2015 15:25 GMT
#3630
Obi confirmed town.
Retired.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
August 30 2015 15:53 GMT
#3631
To me the only wagon that potentially confirms people is the rayn vs rels wagon. Unless rels is scum and mafia team joined up with chez and made a great play.

So the five that stayed on chez are the only semi-confirmed. We also know Ritoky isn't a godfather, which means he can be checked and can be confirmed.

We also know geript was green checked as well as Ritoky was.

So geript could of been framed or be a godfather while Ritoky could only be framed if scum.

Kels switching after lying about his role makes it interesting. I would bet that chez did find the scum team though...
JudgeJudy
Profile Joined August 2015
188 Posts
August 30 2015 16:48 GMT
#3632
[image loading]

On August 31 2015 00:53 Damdred wrote:
I would bet that chez did find the scum team though...


Well chez received his mason power on n2 from his upgrade so we know he couldn't have used that power on n1. ritoky claims to have roleblocked him on n2 so if he is town, we know he couldn't have used that power on n2. That leaves three scenarios where chez could have came in contact with the scum team.

1) chez successfully checked a scum on n3 and they became masons.
2) Ritoky did not roleblock chez on n2, they came in contact on night two, and ritoky claimed the roleblock after learning chez was the traitor.
3) geript used his mason power with chez and they connected that way.

I don't think scenario 3 makes a ton of sense because even if geript were mafia, that would mean he would need to claim mafia to chez at a point where he didn't necessarily know chez's alignment. I don't think that's worth the risk.

Scenario two is possible, but lying when there isn't a huge deal to gain at that point also doesn't seem worth the risk.

I think scenario one is almost a certainty. Nobody claimed that they received a mason quicktopic from chezinu. Here are the scenarios that I could come up with:

1) chez chose never to use his role
2) chez used his role on a player that died night three and the mason was never initiated
3) chez masoned damdred and damdred chose not to reveal things because he has no reason to
4) chez masoned a mafia player, made contact and the mason was never claimed

I'm going to eliminate 1 and 2 right off the bat because they don't make a ton of sense. I can't eliminate 3, but if chez is looking for mafia players, he likely doesn't think the third party claimer is mafia. Perhaps he wanted to gain information regarding whether damdred was a non-survivor role, but he never passed that information on to mafia prior to his death in the thread if they weren't in contact otherwise.

That leaves scenario 4, which I think is the most likely. He contacted mafia on night three since a town player would have claimed it.

That leaves two things to look into:
1) Did anyone suddenly change their opinion of chezinu between night three and day four?
2) How did chezinu figure out who to check? LT would have been dead before night three, so that means he would have had to target a mafia that we don't know about. That leads me to believe it's probably one of the more obvious individuals like KSC or obi, but when I have a chance I'll see if there are any hints that might suggest that chezinu knows more than he should.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
August 30 2015 16:51 GMT
#3633
7 v 1 v 1
Kel dies somehow flips town
Nightkill
5 v 1 v 1
Mislynch
4 v 1 v 1
Nk
3 v 1 v 1
Mislynch
2 v 1 v 1
Nk
Lylo
1 v 1 v 1

Two Mislynch till Lylo, I'm obviously town siding but yeah.

Hopefully rit rb someone other than me to confirm others if he is town. Though if there are two scum (unlikely)

6 v 2 v 1
Kel somehow town
Nk
4 v 2 v 1
Mislynch somehow
3 v 2 v 1
Nk
Mylo

This is extremely unlikely though
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
August 30 2015 16:55 GMT
#3634
On August 31 2015 01:48 JudgeJudy wrote:
[image loading]

Show nested quote +
On August 31 2015 00:53 Damdred wrote:
I would bet that chez did find the scum team though...


Well chez received his mason power on n2 from his upgrade so we know he couldn't have used that power on n1. ritoky claims to have roleblocked him on n2 so if he is town, we know he couldn't have used that power on n2. That leaves three scenarios where chez could have came in contact with the scum team.

1) chez successfully checked a scum on n3 and they became masons.
2) Ritoky did not roleblock chez on n2, they came in contact on night two, and ritoky claimed the roleblock after learning chez was the traitor.
3) geript used his mason power with chez and they connected that way.

I don't think scenario 3 makes a ton of sense because even if geript were mafia, that would mean he would need to claim mafia to chez at a point where he didn't necessarily know chez's alignment. I don't think that's worth the risk.

Scenario two is possible, but lying when there isn't a huge deal to gain at that point also doesn't seem worth the risk.

I think scenario one is almost a certainty. Nobody claimed that they received a mason quicktopic from chezinu. Here are the scenarios that I could come up with:

1) chez chose never to use his role
2) chez used his role on a player that died night three and the mason was never initiated
3) chez masoned damdred and damdred chose not to reveal things because he has no reason to
4) chez masoned a mafia player, made contact and the mason was never claimed

I'm going to eliminate 1 and 2 right off the bat because they don't make a ton of sense. I can't eliminate 3, but if chez is looking for mafia players, he likely doesn't think the third party claimer is mafia. Perhaps he wanted to gain information regarding whether damdred was a non-survivor role, but he never passed that information on to mafia prior to his death in the thread if they weren't in contact otherwise.

That leaves scenario 4, which I think is the most likely. He contacted mafia on night three since a town player would have claimed it.

That leaves two things to look into:
1) Did anyone suddenly change their opinion of chezinu between night three and day four?
2) How did chezinu figure out who to check? LT would have been dead before night three, so that means he would have had to target a mafia that we don't know about. That leads me to believe it's probably one of the more obvious individuals like KSC or obi, but when I have a chance I'll see if there are any hints that might suggest that chezinu knows more than he should.


Actually I've been,thinking... mafia really might of role cop me with lt before he died because they were super worried I was a cult leader. Which could point yo multiple people..
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
August 30 2015 16:57 GMT
#3635
Also it's sorta impossible for rit to fake rb chez since rit is claiming to shoot yamato also so not sure there.
JudgeJudy
Profile Joined August 2015
188 Posts
August 30 2015 17:00 GMT
#3636
On August 31 2015 01:55 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2015 01:48 JudgeJudy wrote:
[image loading]

On August 31 2015 00:53 Damdred wrote:
I would bet that chez did find the scum team though...


Well chez received his mason power on n2 from his upgrade so we know he couldn't have used that power on n1. ritoky claims to have roleblocked him on n2 so if he is town, we know he couldn't have used that power on n2. That leaves three scenarios where chez could have came in contact with the scum team.

1) chez successfully checked a scum on n3 and they became masons.
2) Ritoky did not roleblock chez on n2, they came in contact on night two, and ritoky claimed the roleblock after learning chez was the traitor.
3) geript used his mason power with chez and they connected that way.

I don't think scenario 3 makes a ton of sense because even if geript were mafia, that would mean he would need to claim mafia to chez at a point where he didn't necessarily know chez's alignment. I don't think that's worth the risk.

Scenario two is possible, but lying when there isn't a huge deal to gain at that point also doesn't seem worth the risk.

I think scenario one is almost a certainty. Nobody claimed that they received a mason quicktopic from chezinu. Here are the scenarios that I could come up with:

1) chez chose never to use his role
2) chez used his role on a player that died night three and the mason was never initiated
3) chez masoned damdred and damdred chose not to reveal things because he has no reason to
4) chez masoned a mafia player, made contact and the mason was never claimed

I'm going to eliminate 1 and 2 right off the bat because they don't make a ton of sense. I can't eliminate 3, but if chez is looking for mafia players, he likely doesn't think the third party claimer is mafia. Perhaps he wanted to gain information regarding whether damdred was a non-survivor role, but he never passed that information on to mafia prior to his death in the thread if they weren't in contact otherwise.

That leaves scenario 4, which I think is the most likely. He contacted mafia on night three since a town player would have claimed it.

That leaves two things to look into:
1) Did anyone suddenly change their opinion of chezinu between night three and day four?
2) How did chezinu figure out who to check? LT would have been dead before night three, so that means he would have had to target a mafia that we don't know about. That leads me to believe it's probably one of the more obvious individuals like KSC or obi, but when I have a chance I'll see if there are any hints that might suggest that chezinu knows more than he should.


Actually I've been,thinking... mafia really might of role cop me with lt before he died because they were super worried I was a cult leader. Which could point yo multiple people..


[image loading]

Huh, so did you receive a mason qt with chez or not?
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 30 2015 17:07 GMT
#3637
On August 31 2015 01:57 Damdred wrote:
Also it's sorta impossible for rit to fake rb chez since rit is claiming to shoot yamato also so not sure there.


I don't understand this bit. Elaborate?
Can he not do both or something?
Retired.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
August 30 2015 17:23 GMT
#3638
On August 31 2015 01:57 Damdred wrote:
Also it's sorta impossible for rit to fake rb chez since rit is claiming to shoot yamato also so not sure there.

Also a good point.

Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
August 30 2015 17:43 GMT
#3639
On August 31 2015 02:00 JudgeJudy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2015 01:55 Damdred wrote:
On August 31 2015 01:48 JudgeJudy wrote:
[image loading]

On August 31 2015 00:53 Damdred wrote:
I would bet that chez did find the scum team though...


Well chez received his mason power on n2 from his upgrade so we know he couldn't have used that power on n1. ritoky claims to have roleblocked him on n2 so if he is town, we know he couldn't have used that power on n2. That leaves three scenarios where chez could have came in contact with the scum team.

1) chez successfully checked a scum on n3 and they became masons.
2) Ritoky did not roleblock chez on n2, they came in contact on night two, and ritoky claimed the roleblock after learning chez was the traitor.
3) geript used his mason power with chez and they connected that way.

I don't think scenario 3 makes a ton of sense because even if geript were mafia, that would mean he would need to claim mafia to chez at a point where he didn't necessarily know chez's alignment. I don't think that's worth the risk.

Scenario two is possible, but lying when there isn't a huge deal to gain at that point also doesn't seem worth the risk.

I think scenario one is almost a certainty. Nobody claimed that they received a mason quicktopic from chezinu. Here are the scenarios that I could come up with:

1) chez chose never to use his role
2) chez used his role on a player that died night three and the mason was never initiated
3) chez masoned damdred and damdred chose not to reveal things because he has no reason to
4) chez masoned a mafia player, made contact and the mason was never claimed

I'm going to eliminate 1 and 2 right off the bat because they don't make a ton of sense. I can't eliminate 3, but if chez is looking for mafia players, he likely doesn't think the third party claimer is mafia. Perhaps he wanted to gain information regarding whether damdred was a non-survivor role, but he never passed that information on to mafia prior to his death in the thread if they weren't in contact otherwise.

That leaves scenario 4, which I think is the most likely. He contacted mafia on night three since a town player would have claimed it.

That leaves two things to look into:
1) Did anyone suddenly change their opinion of chezinu between night three and day four?
2) How did chezinu figure out who to check? LT would have been dead before night three, so that means he would have had to target a mafia that we don't know about. That leads me to believe it's probably one of the more obvious individuals like KSC or obi, but when I have a chance I'll see if there are any hints that might suggest that chezinu knows more than he should.


Actually I've been,thinking... mafia really might of role cop me with lt before he died because they were super worried I was a cult leader. Which could point yo multiple people..


[image loading]

Huh, so did you receive a mason qt with chez or not?


Nah only geript mason me this game.

But lt claims to have checked me, role cop maybe scum team was worried I was cult. Was all I was saying
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
August 30 2015 17:44 GMT
#3640
On August 31 2015 02:07 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2015 01:57 Damdred wrote:
Also it's sorta impossible for rit to fake rb chez since rit is claiming to shoot yamato also so not sure there.


I don't understand this bit. Elaborate?
Can he not do both or something?


Chez rb the person he masons with.

I'm not sure how rb works out if both are mafia rb(?) But I'm pretty sure that rits shot would be blocked if he was fake claiming a th and was mason with chez.
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