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On August 28 2015 23:33 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I may be biased because I keep thinking a KSC lynch is bad.
I feel like people are resigned towards trying to lynch him for being lazy, and I'm not sure that's a tell for him either way.
I don't want to spend two whole days lynching him. He didn't do shit the whole game. He can't even be vote analyzed since he voted outside wagons each time; and now we know the reason he did that is fake.
I want to nuke him so we don't have to deal with him at LYLO.
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On August 28 2015 23:33 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I may be biased because I keep thinking a KSC lynch is bad.
I feel like people are resigned towards trying to lynch him for being lazy, and I'm not sure that's a tell for him either way.
On August 21 2015 02:08 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Kels will step up eventually if he is town.
You used that exact tell to read him earlier though...
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SO just so everyone is aware, i'm sorta confident that obi is townish here.
I kinda want to hedge but he just feels a bit like town. Like that vote d1 is interesting but it might make him more town in that scenerio
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On August 28 2015 23:33 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2015 23:31 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On August 28 2015 23:29 Rels wrote:You: because of the 1 minute after deadline thing, and because I was thinking you were town D1 and you didn't do a whole lot since; exactly like your last game where you got lynched at LYLO, where everybody townread you early, then gradually realized you were mafia 'cause you didn't do anything starting D3. KSC: On August 28 2015 22:46 Rels wrote:On August 28 2015 22:35 JudgeJudy wrote:
What do you think about KSC, Rels? Now that FF has flipped town, do you buy the claim that KSC was fake claiming cop as town? We need to kill him before LYLO. I had no scumread nor townread of him until this morning. The guy made sure he was unreadable. Now, the FF flip this morning confirmed he was lying about the check. The moment that happened, he did this: On August 28 2015 08:14 KelsierSC wrote:
i checked a dead man
Then 20 minutes later he actually rescinded his cop claim: On August 28 2015 08:32 KelsierSC wrote:
soap
here's the thing, i don't actually have a way of checking people
i'm a town vigi, i shot geript n1 for the lolz,
he didnt die so i assumed he was a vet and called him town
then i took a punt on LT being mafia next night
but for my town defence, i got people to vote rayn
and LT
so im town
i just havent really played properly
So several things are super weird: 1 - he fakeclaimed for the entire game 2 - he made sure he was unreadable for the entire game 3 - we don't know if KSC would have rescinded his claim without FF flipping 4 - before he rescinded, he posted he checked a dead man; maybe he tried to cover his fakeclaim by claiming the dead check, before realising it's not coherent, then he claimed vig 5 - he didn't post much this game but is over defensive the moment someone talks about him being scummy. KSC stating he was the main force behind rayn and LT's lynches is LOL worthy We need to lynch him sooner or later. Not over 100% mafia Chezinu, but maybe tomorrow. I don't see how these points warrant a lynch. OK. I'll let you make cases on who you want then.
I doubt I'll make a giant case on someone but I'll be doing stuff today.
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On August 28 2015 23:35 JudgeJudy wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2015 23:33 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I may be biased because I keep thinking a KSC lynch is bad.
I feel like people are resigned towards trying to lynch him for being lazy, and I'm not sure that's a tell for him either way. Show nested quote +On August 21 2015 02:08 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Kels will step up eventually if he is town. You used that exact tell to read him earlier though...
No I didn't.
I mostly left him alone.
I'm aware that I've been hedging on him a lot but I've had tons of trouble reading KSC in the past so I keep trying to put it off as much as I can.
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Like if someone could make a reasonable case on why KSC is mafia then I'd run with it.
I didn't really put much stock in Rels' case on him so if someone else can tell me why we should lynch him, that'd be cool.
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Honestly KSC is concerning to a point but him admitting to not being a cop and shooting geript feels a bit towny at this point to me which is a bit disconcerting
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On August 28 2015 23:36 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2015 23:33 Rels wrote:On August 28 2015 23:31 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On August 28 2015 23:29 Rels wrote:You: because of the 1 minute after deadline thing, and because I was thinking you were town D1 and you didn't do a whole lot since; exactly like your last game where you got lynched at LYLO, where everybody townread you early, then gradually realized you were mafia 'cause you didn't do anything starting D3. KSC: On August 28 2015 22:46 Rels wrote:On August 28 2015 22:35 JudgeJudy wrote:
What do you think about KSC, Rels? Now that FF has flipped town, do you buy the claim that KSC was fake claiming cop as town? We need to kill him before LYLO. I had no scumread nor townread of him until this morning. The guy made sure he was unreadable. Now, the FF flip this morning confirmed he was lying about the check. The moment that happened, he did this: On August 28 2015 08:14 KelsierSC wrote:
i checked a dead man
Then 20 minutes later he actually rescinded his cop claim: On August 28 2015 08:32 KelsierSC wrote:
soap
here's the thing, i don't actually have a way of checking people
i'm a town vigi, i shot geript n1 for the lolz,
he didnt die so i assumed he was a vet and called him town
then i took a punt on LT being mafia next night
but for my town defence, i got people to vote rayn
and LT
so im town
i just havent really played properly
So several things are super weird: 1 - he fakeclaimed for the entire game 2 - he made sure he was unreadable for the entire game 3 - we don't know if KSC would have rescinded his claim without FF flipping 4 - before he rescinded, he posted he checked a dead man; maybe he tried to cover his fakeclaim by claiming the dead check, before realising it's not coherent, then he claimed vig 5 - he didn't post much this game but is over defensive the moment someone talks about him being scummy. KSC stating he was the main force behind rayn and LT's lynches is LOL worthy We need to lynch him sooner or later. Not over 100% mafia Chezinu, but maybe tomorrow. I don't see how these points warrant a lynch. OK. I'll let you make cases on who you want then. I doubt I'll make a giant case on someone but I'll be doing stuff today.
Cool (=
Last thing: can you vote Chezinu please ?
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On August 28 2015 23:36 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2015 23:35 JudgeJudy wrote:On August 28 2015 23:33 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I may be biased because I keep thinking a KSC lynch is bad.
I feel like people are resigned towards trying to lynch him for being lazy, and I'm not sure that's a tell for him either way. On August 21 2015 02:08 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Kels will step up eventually if he is town. You used that exact tell to read him earlier though... No I didn't. I mostly left him alone. I'm aware that I've been hedging on him a lot but I've had tons of trouble reading KSC in the past so I keep trying to put it off as much as I can.
Hey. You said KSC will step up eventually. He didn't. Let's nuke him so we don't have to waste a lynch on him.
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Alright now about the Damdred geript stuff I didn't get.
On August 28 2015 08:01 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2015 07:59 geript wrote:
But idk what Damdred's role does supposedly so.... Lie Lie Lie Lie Lie. Keep lying geript
@Damdred: does geript knows your role or no ? (and by role I mean full abilities, not just wincon)
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On August 28 2015 23:40 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2015 23:36 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On August 28 2015 23:35 JudgeJudy wrote:On August 28 2015 23:33 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I may be biased because I keep thinking a KSC lynch is bad.
I feel like people are resigned towards trying to lynch him for being lazy, and I'm not sure that's a tell for him either way. On August 21 2015 02:08 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Kels will step up eventually if he is town. You used that exact tell to read him earlier though... No I didn't. I mostly left him alone. I'm aware that I've been hedging on him a lot but I've had tons of trouble reading KSC in the past so I keep trying to put it off as much as I can. Hey. You said KSC will step up eventually. He didn't. Let's nuke him so we don't have to waste a lynch on him.
I am well aware of this.
But he lynched mafia twice, which technically falls under stepping up.
I'm going to spend some time looking into it (after mkx) but his play kind of reminds me of the last game he played where he was town and he lynched my teammates after huge bouts of inactivity.
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On August 28 2015 23:43 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2015 23:40 Rels wrote:On August 28 2015 23:36 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On August 28 2015 23:35 JudgeJudy wrote:On August 28 2015 23:33 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I may be biased because I keep thinking a KSC lynch is bad.
I feel like people are resigned towards trying to lynch him for being lazy, and I'm not sure that's a tell for him either way. On August 21 2015 02:08 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Kels will step up eventually if he is town. You used that exact tell to read him earlier though... No I didn't. I mostly left him alone. I'm aware that I've been hedging on him a lot but I've had tons of trouble reading KSC in the past so I keep trying to put it off as much as I can. Hey. You said KSC will step up eventually. He didn't. Let's nuke him so we don't have to waste a lynch on him. I am well aware of this. But he lynched mafia twice, which technically falls under stepping up. I'm going to spend some time looking into it (after mkx) but his play kind of reminds me of the last game he played where he was town and he lynched my teammates after huge bouts of inactivity.
He didn't do shit. LT's lynch was decided before his red check.
He fakeclaimed which got FF to get nuked because we had two different checks on the same target.
He caused the death of a cop.
And when said cop flipped, he rescinded his claim.
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He could have avoided FF's nuke yesterday by saying his check was faked.
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On August 28 2015 23:46 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2015 23:43 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On August 28 2015 23:40 Rels wrote:On August 28 2015 23:36 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On August 28 2015 23:35 JudgeJudy wrote:On August 28 2015 23:33 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I may be biased because I keep thinking a KSC lynch is bad.
I feel like people are resigned towards trying to lynch him for being lazy, and I'm not sure that's a tell for him either way. On August 21 2015 02:08 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Kels will step up eventually if he is town. You used that exact tell to read him earlier though... No I didn't. I mostly left him alone. I'm aware that I've been hedging on him a lot but I've had tons of trouble reading KSC in the past so I keep trying to put it off as much as I can. Hey. You said KSC will step up eventually. He didn't. Let's nuke him so we don't have to waste a lynch on him. I am well aware of this. But he lynched mafia twice, which technically falls under stepping up. I'm going to spend some time looking into it (after mkx) but his play kind of reminds me of the last game he played where he was town and he lynched my teammates after huge bouts of inactivity. He didn't do shit. LT's lynch was decided before his red check. He fakeclaimed which got FF to get nuked because we had two different checks on the same target. He caused the death of a cop. And when said cop flipped, he rescinded his claim.
I might be remembering things wrong, then.
Hrm.
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On August 28 2015 23:48 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2015 23:46 Rels wrote:On August 28 2015 23:43 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On August 28 2015 23:40 Rels wrote:On August 28 2015 23:36 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On August 28 2015 23:35 JudgeJudy wrote:On August 28 2015 23:33 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I may be biased because I keep thinking a KSC lynch is bad.
I feel like people are resigned towards trying to lynch him for being lazy, and I'm not sure that's a tell for him either way. On August 21 2015 02:08 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Kels will step up eventually if he is town. You used that exact tell to read him earlier though... No I didn't. I mostly left him alone. I'm aware that I've been hedging on him a lot but I've had tons of trouble reading KSC in the past so I keep trying to put it off as much as I can. Hey. You said KSC will step up eventually. He didn't. Let's nuke him so we don't have to waste a lynch on him. I am well aware of this. But he lynched mafia twice, which technically falls under stepping up. I'm going to spend some time looking into it (after mkx) but his play kind of reminds me of the last game he played where he was town and he lynched my teammates after huge bouts of inactivity. He didn't do shit. LT's lynch was decided before his red check. He fakeclaimed which got FF to get nuked because we had two different checks on the same target. He caused the death of a cop. And when said cop flipped, he rescinded his claim. I might be remembering things wrong, then. Hrm.
Maybe I'm wrong on the helping the LT lynch.
LT was confirmed mafia in my mind N2 for the 3 posts saying "check rayn" + sheeping a vote on me + not switching while being semi AFK + nuking not the second vote wagon. But maybe KSC's red check helped others vote him.
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I've gotta say OWS: the fact that you voted ruxxar D1 + you didn't sheep a vote on me at some point D2 is town indicative. Now that my "nuke Chez 1 minute late" case is shut down I think you're town. Less than the town circle, but above the others.
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Damdred where did you go ? I want answers! I don't get why you're not pushing geript super hard if geript knew your abilities / wincon and still wanted to lynch you.
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On August 28 2015 23:52 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2015 23:48 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On August 28 2015 23:46 Rels wrote:On August 28 2015 23:43 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On August 28 2015 23:40 Rels wrote:On August 28 2015 23:36 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On August 28 2015 23:35 JudgeJudy wrote:On August 28 2015 23:33 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I may be biased because I keep thinking a KSC lynch is bad.
I feel like people are resigned towards trying to lynch him for being lazy, and I'm not sure that's a tell for him either way. On August 21 2015 02:08 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Kels will step up eventually if he is town. You used that exact tell to read him earlier though... No I didn't. I mostly left him alone. I'm aware that I've been hedging on him a lot but I've had tons of trouble reading KSC in the past so I keep trying to put it off as much as I can. Hey. You said KSC will step up eventually. He didn't. Let's nuke him so we don't have to waste a lynch on him. I am well aware of this. But he lynched mafia twice, which technically falls under stepping up. I'm going to spend some time looking into it (after mkx) but his play kind of reminds me of the last game he played where he was town and he lynched my teammates after huge bouts of inactivity. He didn't do shit. LT's lynch was decided before his red check. He fakeclaimed which got FF to get nuked because we had two different checks on the same target. He caused the death of a cop. And when said cop flipped, he rescinded his claim. I might be remembering things wrong, then. Hrm. Maybe I'm wrong on the helping the LT lynch. LT was confirmed mafia in my mind N2 for the 3 posts saying "check rayn" + sheeping a vote on me + not switching while being semi AFK + nuking not the second vote wagon. But maybe KSC's red check helped others vote him.
Honestly I do feel like I have to look at it again. I've been writing it off as "he lynched mafia" so I mostly gave him a pass (plus, I thought him defending rux was towny/goofy) but it might not be enough at this juncture.
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Damdred two questions:
Does geript knows your role or no ? (and by role I mean full abilities, not just wincon)
Why are you so defensive about getting killed / nuked if your wincon is you win even if you die ?
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I explained my role to geript yes.
I don't win even if I die, I win if I survive or if fid survives since I got my upgrade.
Geript being retarded doesn't make him mafia, it just makes it possible for him to be a godfather but ff did check geript so he still has sa green check to fall back on.
Obi is probably town though
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