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geript
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Rels
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On August 28 2015 08:37 geript wrote: Also fwiw since we're coming clean. I made up that whole HTS QT shit for funsies. Idk if KSC is lying, but at least it got everyone else to lynch LT. So I'm counting it a win. Scooby doo. )= I'll get back to you motherfucker, now that the shot protected on you N1 is claimed by vig, so it was likely not mafia shooting you. You're not town confirmed anymore. Lucky for you there are better targets today. | ||
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Vote recaps colored with flips Day 1 final vote ruXxar (7): Breshke, Chezinu (5): geript, JudgeJudy, Tubesock (2): The Shining, Fidei86 (2): ritoky, ObiWanShinobi (1): ruXxar WaveofShadow (1): FecalFeast Half the Sky (1): KelsierSC Damdred (0): VayneAuthority (0): yamato77 (0): Not Voting (2): VayneAuthority, Beneather Day 1 vote recap + Show Spoiler + ritoky voted for fidei86 geript voted for ritoky FecalFeast voted for damdred Damdred voted for FecalFeast FecalFeast unvoted FecalFeast voted for judgejudy FecalFeast unvoted FecalFeast voted for damdred Chezinu voted for ritoky Chezinu unvoted ruXxar voted for damdred Chezinu unvoted Chezinu voted for damdred Tubesock voted for Fidei86 Breshke voted for ruXxar Half the Sky voted for ruXxar The Shining voted for Fidei86 Rels voted for ruXxar ObiWanShinobi voted for ruXxar ruXxar unvoted ruXxar voted for geript WaveofShadow voted for ruXxar Lord Tolkien voted for Vayne Authority Lord Tolkien unvoted Lord Tolkien voted for ruXxar FecalFeast unvoted FecalFeast voted for yamato77 ruXxar unvoted ruXxar voted for ObiWanShinobi The Shining unvoted The Shining voted for Tubesock JudgeJudy voted for WaveofShadow geript unvoted geript voted for chezinu Tictock voted for Fidei86 Rels unvoted Rels voted for Fidei86 Rels unvoted Rels voted for Tubesock Chezinu unvoted Chezinu voted for Tubesock JudgeJudy unvoted JudgeJudy voted for Chezinu Tubesock unvoted Tubesock voted for yamato77 ObiWanShinobi unvoted ObiWanShinobi voted for chezinu WaveofShadow unvoted WaveofShadow voted for Chezinu Lord Tolkien unvoted Lord Tolkien voted for Chezinu Tubesock unvoted Tubesock voted for Chezinu Fidei86 voted for Chezinu yamato77 voted for Chezinu KelsierSC voted for Half the Sky FecalFeast unvoted FecalFeast voted for kelsierSC Half the Sky unvoted Half the Sky voted for Tubesock WaveofShadow unvoted WaveofShadow voted for Tubesock Lord Tolkien unvoted Lord Tolkien voted for Tubesock ObiWanShinobi unvoted ObiWanShinobi voted for ruXxar Lord Tolkien unvoted Lord Tolkien voted for ruXxar FecalFeast unvoted FecalFeast voted for damdred KelsierSC unvoted KelsierSC voted for damdred Damdred unvoted Damdred voted for ruXxar Half the Sky unvoted Half the Sky voted for ruXxar Chezinu unvoted Chezinu voted for ruXxar Rels unvoted Rels voted for ruXxar FecalFeast unvoted FecalFeast voted for chezinu KelsierSC unvoted KelsierSC voted for chezinu KelsierSC unvoted KelsierSC voted for Half the Sky FecalFeast unvoted FecalFeast voted for WaveofShadow Day 2 final vote raynpelikoneet (5): Rels (5): Yamato77 (3): ObiWanShinobi, FecalFeast (2): ritoky, Bill Murray, Chezinu (1): geript (1): FecalFeast ritoky (0): The Shining (1): KelsierSC (0): Fidei86 (0): Day 2 vote recap + Show Spoiler + ritoky voted for FecalFeast Bill Murray voted for FecalFeast Tictock voted for FecalFeast KelsierSC voted for Rels FecalFeast voted for Rels Tictock unvoted Tictock voted for Rels ObiWanShinobi voted for Yamato77 Chezinu voted for Rels Rels voted for Yamato77 geript voted for ritoky Tictock unvoted Tictock voted for Chezinu Breshke voted for Chezinu JudgeJudy voted for Yamato77 Lord Tolkien voted for Yamato77 geript voted for Chezinu geript unvoted geript voted for Chezinu geript unvoted geript voted for Rels The Shining voted for Rels FecalFeast unvoted FecalFeast voted for KelsierSC KelsierSC unvoted KelsierSC voted for The Shining Fidei86 voted for Rels The Shining unvoted The Shining voted for Fidei86 raynpelikoneet voted for Rels Damdred voted for Fidei86 Lord Tolkien unvoted Lord Tolkien voted for Rels Tictock unvoted Tictock voted for raynpelikoneet Fidei86 unvoted Fidei86 voted for ritoky FecalFeast unvoted FecalFeast voted for Fidei86 Tictock unvoted Tictock voted for Fidei86 Tictock unvoted Tictock voted for Yamato77 Fidei86 unvoted Fidei86 voted for Yamato77 Fidei86 unvoted Fidei86 voted for Yamato77 FecalFeast unvoted FecalFeast voted for geript KelsierSC unvoted KelsierSC voted for raynpelikoneet Damdred unvoted Damdred voted for raynpelikoneet The Shining unvoted The Shining voted for Yamato77 Tictock unvoted Tictock voted for raynpelikoneet Fidei86 unvoted Fidei86 voted for raynpelikoneet Rels unvoted Rels voted for raynpelikoneet yamato77 voted for Yamato77 The Shining unvoted The Shining voted for raynpelikoneet Tubesock voted for Rels KelsierSC unvoted KelsierSC voted for The Shining JudgeJudy unvoted JudgeJudy voted for raynpelikoneet Rels unvoted Rels voted for Yamato77 Day 3 final vote Lord Tolkien (8): Rels, Fidei86, JudgeJudy, ObiWanShinobi, Breshke, Tictock, Damdred, ritoky KelsierSC (3): geript, FecalFeast, Chezinu Damdred (1): KelsierSC Not Voting (1): Lord Tolkien Day 3 vote recap + Show Spoiler + Rels voted for Lord Tolkien Fidei86 voted for Lord Tolkien geript voted for KelsierSC JudgeJudy voted for Lord Tolkien KelsierSC voted for Damdred ObiWanShinobi voted for Lord Tolkien FecalFeast voted for KelsierSC Breshke voted for Lord Tolkien Tictock voted for Lord Tolkien Damdred voted for Lord Tolkien ritoky voted for Lord Tolkien Chezinu voted for KelsierSC | ||
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Rels
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We're lynching Chezinu. We can talk about other things. I will be ignoring Chezinu 'cause talking to him each time has cluttered up the thread for nothing. Unless he says false things ofc. Why are we lynching Chezinu ? Two mains reasons shows he's mafia, and a bunch of small ones shows he's not town. 1. The nuke theory: LT fake nuked Chezinu D2 to gain town cred when Chez flipped Go read it, it's there: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/491840-the-new-personality-mafia?page=141#2817 2. Chezinu claimed he got a check on a dead player; FF claimed he didn't get a check on a dead player; FF was town That's it. Chezinu claimed to get a 3P check on dead yamato. But please remember the context to know WHY Chezinu claimed that: Chezinu counterclaimed FF "no result" claim on Lord Tolkien. He tried to deflect the lynch from LT to FF. That's a play only a mafia (not even a town-enemy 3P) would do. 3. Bunch of small reasons that shows he's not town - Chezinu claimed not-town EOD3 - Chezinu's check was counter claimed by ritoky's roleblock claim - Chezinu had Lord Tolkien as green in his "I'm serious now" list post; when asked about it, he said it was to fool the mafia and he actually thought LT was green - Chezinu *knew* FF was lying from his point of view, but never pushed him hard. Instead, he pushed me hard back when I attacked him. This shows he's not interested by solving the game - Chezinu *knows* ritoky is lying from his point of view, but doesn't push him hard. Instead, he pushes me hard back when I attack him. This shows he's not interested by solving the game - His wincon "I don't know my wincon" doesn't make sense - His upgrade check doesn't make sense with his wincon; why a check would be useful with a wincon like that - He faked wanting LT to be modkilled EOD3 Conclusion All of the small reasons makes Chezinu not-town. The two main ones makes him mafia. So please: LYNCH HIM AND IGNORE HIM. Let's talk about something else while he finally dies. | ||
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I'm sure every town is the game has this guy as possible mafia, by virtue of the rayn town circle + POE. But now that I'm sure Chezinu is mafia, I'm pretty sure OWS is mafia as well. Why ? Look at what Onegu posted just before the D4 post: On August 28 2015 06:26 Onegu wrote: The nuke on Chezinu was lanched after the nuke deadline. PMs with the nukes were told you had to launch 1 hour before deadline. The nuke will be refunded. So every owner of a nuke given by Breshke or Yamato were told they had to fire the nuke at most 1 hour before deadline. Look at what JJ did: On August 28 2015 04:56 JudgeJudy wrote: lol I was hoping to see which one obi would go with, but I'm not sure how much longer I'll be around this afternoon. Go ahead and send yours at chez, maybe we can end the game tonight. Moma has been holding on to a present! ^_^ ##Nuke: Fecalfeast He waited until 4 minutes before the nuke deadline to see what OWS would do; then he fired his nuke, so the nuke would work. Now look at what OWS did: On August 28 2015 05:01 ObiWanShinobi wrote: K well since my boss is a fucking asshole and won't let me take a lunch break I guess I'm probably just going to yolo kill chez and hope for the best. 1 minute AFTER the nuke deadline, he tried to fire his nuke while EXPLAINING WHY HE DID IT SO LATE. So of course the nuke didn't work. And it's not like he didn't have time to think about it! The whole thread only talked about nuke targets N3. OWS came back to the thread 6 HOURS BEFORE NUKE DEADLINE and posted SEVENTEEN POSTS until his nuke ONE MINUTE AFTER DEADLINE. All of these 17 posts says he's not sure about who to lynch. But he was NOT LOOKING FOR CLUES ABOUT NUKING SOMEONE. He was just posting he's not sure. Here is town Breshke remarking it (second to last post ... RIP): On August 28 2015 00:54 Breshke wrote: Tbh I don't like how obi said he is reading stuff to make his decision but isn't showing any evidence of it in the thread. Like normally I feel like people have at least one or two quotes they want clarifying Think he said he was phone posting so it could be hard for him to do so but kind of makes me think he is mafia And here are the SEVENTEEN POSTS I talked about: + Show Spoiler + On August 27 2015 22:47 ObiWanShinobi wrote: I might nuke chez but I'm still reading stuff. Doubtful that ksc is Rso imo. On August 27 2015 22:52 ObiWanShinobi wrote: I gathered. Who should I nuke in your place? Forgive me if I missed it but I can't parse the thread via phone too well. On August 27 2015 23:01 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Remind me why that is and why exactly I should do that? On August 27 2015 23:09 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Doesn't role blocker return "no result" or how exactly does that happen? On August 27 2015 23:40 ObiWanShinobi wrote: @jj: he had two checks in one night? Where did he claim that? I can't look for myself. Ff is 100% the best nuke in the case of conflicting role claims. On August 28 2015 00:04 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Yeah that's not really how information works. On August 28 2015 00:23 ObiWanShinobi wrote: mmm I feel like I could make a solid choice nuking either or chez/ff but that doesn't really make it easier. On August 28 2015 00:33 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Yeah I'm gonna be kind of sad if it's fake.  On August 28 2015 01:01 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Shock and surprise nobody trusts me. W/e. On August 28 2015 01:03 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Yeah I fucking get it. On August 28 2015 01:15 ObiWanShinobi wrote: I kind of feel like chez would probably be the best nuke here, considering having him alive is going to shut discussion down for another day. The thing is: can the same be said about ff? On August 28 2015 01:38 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Damdred could easily be on the lynch table tomorrow, nuking him seems like a bit of a waste at this juncture. On August 28 2015 02:02 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Ask the people that want to nuke him. On August 28 2015 02:27 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Damdred would claim anti nukes regardless of whether or not he actually had them in this position though. Chez is probably still the best nuke. On August 28 2015 02:57 ObiWanShinobi wrote: The bit I found towny about chez was his fight with rels. That's the thing that's stopping me from nuking him atm. On August 28 2015 03:46 ObiWanShinobi wrote: I'm not going to nuke you. I'm torn between chez and ff. Hopefully I can reread something when I'm on lunch break. On August 28 2015 05:01 ObiWanShinobi wrote: K well since my boss is a fucking asshole and won't let me take a lunch break I guess I'm probably just going to yolo kill chez and hope for the best. OK! So why did he do this ? Here is what I believe happened: - OWS and Chezinu mafia together, maybe the last ones - OWS delayed the time to make a decision during several hours - Just after the nuke deadline passed, OWS finally posted he would nuke Chezinu - But of course the nuke didn't work And here is why he did it He nuked Chezinu 1 minute after nuke deadline so he would not kill his partner. But he nuked Chezinu so he would gain town cred after Chez flipped. He also nuked after the deadline so he still kept the nuke to use on anyone else in case Chezinu flipped; after all, supposing there are 5 mafias, he would be the last alive; nuking anyone would be good for him. TLDR OWS purposefully nuked Chezinu 1 minute after nuke deadline. He did it so Chezinu lived another day; for the towncred if Chezinu flipped; and to keep the nuke for another person later. | ||
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Rels
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So people; READ THE TWO POSTS ABOVE!! Then vote Chezinu who I'm sure is mafia; and ignore him please. Then talk to me about OWS; I'm only 90% sure he's mafia, so tell me what you think of the nuke situation N3. | ||
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So please people: a simple "oh you're fucking right" followed by a Chez vote would be enough. Comments on OWS would be extra good. Then we can talk about something else. | ||
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JudgeJudy
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![[image loading]](http://media.giphy.com/media/W9WSk4tEU1aJW/giphy.gif) Yep I'm on board the chezinu lynch. Since the nukes keep failing, the lynch seems to be the way to go. I'll spend more time on Obi next. What do you think about KSC, Rels? Now that FF has flipped town, do you buy the claim that KSC was fake claiming cop as town? | ||
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On August 28 2015 22:35 JudgeJudy wrote: What do you think about KSC, Rels? Now that FF has flipped town, do you buy the claim that KSC was fake claiming cop as town? We need to kill him before LYLO. I had no scumread nor townread of him until this morning. The guy made sure he was unreadable. Now, the FF flip this morning confirmed he was lying about the check. The moment that happened, he did this: On August 28 2015 08:14 KelsierSC wrote: i checked a dead man Then 20 minutes later he actually rescinded his cop claim: On August 28 2015 08:32 KelsierSC wrote: soap here's the thing, i don't actually have a way of checking people i'm a town vigi, i shot geript n1 for the lolz, he didnt die so i assumed he was a vet and called him town then i took a punt on LT being mafia next night but for my town defence, i got people to vote rayn and LT so im town i just havent really played properly So several things are super weird: 1 - he fakeclaimed for the entire game 2 - he made sure he was unreadable for the entire game 3 - we don't know if KSC would have rescinded his claim without FF flipping 4 - before he rescinded, he posted he checked a dead man; maybe he tried to cover his fakeclaim by claiming the dead check, before realising it's not coherent, then he claimed vig 5 - he didn't post much this game but is over defensive the moment someone talks about him being scummy. KSC stating he was the main force behind rayn and LT's lynches is LOL worthy We need to lynch him sooner or later. Not over 100% mafia Chezinu, but maybe tomorrow. | ||
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Lynch Chezinu and nuke KSC. If KSC is mafia and the game is not over, lynch Damdred the next day. If KSC is town, lynch OWS probably (could change obv). | ||
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Chezinu is 100% mafia. So I don't want to discuss something else before I'm sure he's going to be lynched today. So I'll put my thoughts on hold until he has enough votes on him. | ||
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On August 28 2015 17:34 Rels wrote: Now, about ObiWanShinobi. I'm sure every town is the game has this guy as possible mafia, by virtue of the rayn town circle + POE. But now that I'm sure Chezinu is mafia, I'm pretty sure OWS is mafia as well. Why ? Look at what Onegu posted just before the D4 post: So every owner of a nuke given by Breshke or Yamato were told they had to fire the nuke at most 1 hour before deadline. Look at what JJ did: He waited until 4 minutes before the nuke deadline to see what OWS would do; then he fired his nuke, so the nuke would work. Now look at what OWS did: 1 minute AFTER the nuke deadline, he tried to fire his nuke while EXPLAINING WHY HE DID IT SO LATE. So of course the nuke didn't work. And it's not like he didn't have time to think about it! The whole thread only talked about nuke targets N3. OWS came back to the thread 6 HOURS BEFORE NUKE DEADLINE and posted SEVENTEEN POSTS until his nuke ONE MINUTE AFTER DEADLINE. All of these 17 posts says he's not sure about who to lynch. But he was NOT LOOKING FOR CLUES ABOUT NUKING SOMEONE. He was just posting he's not sure. Here is town Breshke remarking it (second to last post ... RIP): And here are the SEVENTEEN POSTS I talked about: + Show Spoiler + On August 27 2015 22:47 ObiWanShinobi wrote: I might nuke chez but I'm still reading stuff. Doubtful that ksc is Rso imo. On August 27 2015 22:52 ObiWanShinobi wrote: I gathered. Who should I nuke in your place? Forgive me if I missed it but I can't parse the thread via phone too well. On August 27 2015 23:01 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Remind me why that is and why exactly I should do that? On August 27 2015 23:09 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Doesn't role blocker return "no result" or how exactly does that happen? On August 27 2015 23:40 ObiWanShinobi wrote: @jj: he had two checks in one night? Where did he claim that? I can't look for myself. Ff is 100% the best nuke in the case of conflicting role claims. On August 28 2015 00:04 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Yeah that's not really how information works. On August 28 2015 00:23 ObiWanShinobi wrote: mmm I feel like I could make a solid choice nuking either or chez/ff but that doesn't really make it easier. On August 28 2015 00:33 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Yeah I'm gonna be kind of sad if it's fake. On August 28 2015 01:01 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Shock and surprise nobody trusts me. W/e. On August 28 2015 01:03 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Yeah I fucking get it. On August 28 2015 01:15 ObiWanShinobi wrote: I kind of feel like chez would probably be the best nuke here, considering having him alive is going to shut discussion down for another day. The thing is: can the same be said about ff? On August 28 2015 01:38 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Damdred could easily be on the lynch table tomorrow, nuking him seems like a bit of a waste at this juncture. On August 28 2015 02:02 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Ask the people that want to nuke him. On August 28 2015 02:27 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Damdred would claim anti nukes regardless of whether or not he actually had them in this position though. Chez is probably still the best nuke. On August 28 2015 02:57 ObiWanShinobi wrote: The bit I found towny about chez was his fight with rels. That's the thing that's stopping me from nuking him atm. On August 28 2015 03:46 ObiWanShinobi wrote: I'm not going to nuke you. I'm torn between chez and ff. Hopefully I can reread something when I'm on lunch break. On August 28 2015 05:01 ObiWanShinobi wrote: K well since my boss is a fucking asshole and won't let me take a lunch break I guess I'm probably just going to yolo kill chez and hope for the best. OK! So why did he do this ? Here is what I believe happened: - OWS and Chezinu mafia together, maybe the last ones - OWS delayed the time to make a decision during several hours - Just after the nuke deadline passed, OWS finally posted he would nuke Chezinu - But of course the nuke didn't work And here is why he did it He nuked Chezinu 1 minute after nuke deadline so he would not kill his partner. But he nuked Chezinu so he would gain town cred after Chez flipped. He also nuked after the deadline so he still kept the nuke to use on anyone else in case Chezinu flipped; after all, supposing there are 5 mafias, he would be the last alive; nuking anyone would be good for him. TLDR OWS purposefully nuked Chezinu 1 minute after nuke deadline. He did it so Chezinu lived another day; for the towncred if Chezinu flipped; and to keep the nuke for another person later. Except it was unclear whether or not the nuke actually had to be fired 1 hour after deadline. Even then, this analysis doesn't really say anything other than "Obi didn't nuke chez, so he's mafia." There could be any variation of town/mafia in your proposed analysis but it's inconclusive regardless. | ||
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On August 28 2015 23:12 Damdred wrote: hey rels can you talk to me more about your ksc read? funny =D sry to disappoint you, all I had is written above | ||
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