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Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 28 2015 15:02 GMT
#3161
On August 28 2015 23:59 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2015 23:52 Rels wrote:
On August 28 2015 23:48 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On August 28 2015 23:46 Rels wrote:
On August 28 2015 23:43 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On August 28 2015 23:40 Rels wrote:
On August 28 2015 23:36 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On August 28 2015 23:35 JudgeJudy wrote:
[image loading]

On August 28 2015 23:33 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I may be biased because I keep thinking a KSC lynch is bad.
I feel like people are resigned towards trying to lynch him for being lazy, and I'm not sure that's a tell for him either way.


On August 21 2015 02:08 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Kels will step up eventually if he is town.


You used that exact tell to read him earlier though...



No I didn't.
I mostly left him alone.

I'm aware that I've been hedging on him a lot but I've had tons of trouble reading KSC in the past so I keep trying to put it off as much as I can.

Hey. You said KSC will step up eventually. He didn't. Let's nuke him so we don't have to waste a lynch on him.


I am well aware of this.
But he lynched mafia twice, which technically falls under stepping up.

I'm going to spend some time looking into it (after mkx) but his play kind of reminds me of the last game he played where he was town and he lynched my teammates after huge bouts of inactivity.

He didn't do shit. LT's lynch was decided before his red check.
He fakeclaimed which got FF to get nuked because we had two different checks on the same target.
He caused the death of a cop.
And when said cop flipped, he rescinded his claim.


I might be remembering things wrong, then.
Hrm.

Maybe I'm wrong on the helping the LT lynch.
LT was confirmed mafia in my mind N2 for the 3 posts saying "check rayn" + sheeping a vote on me + not switching while being semi AFK + nuking not the second vote wagon. But maybe KSC's red check helped others vote him.


Honestly I do feel like I have to look at it again. I've been writing it off as "he lynched mafia" so I mostly gave him a pass (plus, I thought him defending rux was towny/goofy) but it might not be enough at this juncture.

Oh wow. You made me think of something. I think Chezinu said he was scumreading KSC 'cause KSC defended him D1, and he couldn't know Chez was town.
Since Chezinu is mafia, the argument can be turned around; why would KSC defend Chezinu D1.
I'm gonna check that.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 28 2015 15:06 GMT
#3162
On August 29 2015 00:02 Damdred wrote:
I explained my role to geript yes.
I don't win even if I die, I win if I survive or if fid survives since I got my upgrade.

OK I feel dumb for not understanding that =X

On August 29 2015 00:02 Damdred wrote:
Geript being retarded doesn't make him mafia, it just makes it possible for him to be a godfather but ff did check geript so he still has sa green check to fall back on.

Just a framer would do. Remember N2 tube the framer still lived, so FF check could have been framed. We only have one check on geript now.
Plus, I find weird that he put suspicions on you immediately after EON3; you say he's lying; then he rescind his accusation; and you let it go.
Does geript being retarded really not making him mafia ? (I want meta!)
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 28 2015 15:22 GMT
#3163
On August 29 2015 00:02 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2015 23:59 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On August 28 2015 23:52 Rels wrote:
On August 28 2015 23:48 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On August 28 2015 23:46 Rels wrote:
On August 28 2015 23:43 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On August 28 2015 23:40 Rels wrote:
On August 28 2015 23:36 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On August 28 2015 23:35 JudgeJudy wrote:
[image loading]

On August 28 2015 23:33 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I may be biased because I keep thinking a KSC lynch is bad.
I feel like people are resigned towards trying to lynch him for being lazy, and I'm not sure that's a tell for him either way.


On August 21 2015 02:08 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Kels will step up eventually if he is town.


You used that exact tell to read him earlier though...



No I didn't.
I mostly left him alone.

I'm aware that I've been hedging on him a lot but I've had tons of trouble reading KSC in the past so I keep trying to put it off as much as I can.

Hey. You said KSC will step up eventually. He didn't. Let's nuke him so we don't have to waste a lynch on him.


I am well aware of this.
But he lynched mafia twice, which technically falls under stepping up.

I'm going to spend some time looking into it (after mkx) but his play kind of reminds me of the last game he played where he was town and he lynched my teammates after huge bouts of inactivity.

He didn't do shit. LT's lynch was decided before his red check.
He fakeclaimed which got FF to get nuked because we had two different checks on the same target.
He caused the death of a cop.
And when said cop flipped, he rescinded his claim.


I might be remembering things wrong, then.
Hrm.

Maybe I'm wrong on the helping the LT lynch.
LT was confirmed mafia in my mind N2 for the 3 posts saying "check rayn" + sheeping a vote on me + not switching while being semi AFK + nuking not the second vote wagon. But maybe KSC's red check helped others vote him.


Honestly I do feel like I have to look at it again. I've been writing it off as "he lynched mafia" so I mostly gave him a pass (plus, I thought him defending rux was towny/goofy) but it might not be enough at this juncture.

Oh wow. You made me think of something. I think Chezinu said he was scumreading KSC 'cause KSC defended him D1, and he couldn't know Chez was town.
Since Chezinu is mafia, the argument can be turned around; why would KSC defend Chezinu D1.
I'm gonna check that.

OK I found the posts in question:
On August 21 2015 06:27 KelsierSC wrote:
chez is town this lynch is abd

On August 21 2015 06:49 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2015 06:48 Chezinu wrote:
BOYCOTT THE ****ING GAME


please switch off this guy

geet gud

So KSC really pushed people to switch off Chezinu.
JudgeJudy
Profile Joined August 2015
188 Posts
August 28 2015 15:22 GMT
#3164
[image loading]

On August 28 2015 23:52 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2015 23:48 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On August 28 2015 23:46 Rels wrote:
On August 28 2015 23:43 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On August 28 2015 23:40 Rels wrote:
On August 28 2015 23:36 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On August 28 2015 23:35 JudgeJudy wrote:
[image loading]

On August 28 2015 23:33 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I may be biased because I keep thinking a KSC lynch is bad.
I feel like people are resigned towards trying to lynch him for being lazy, and I'm not sure that's a tell for him either way.


On August 21 2015 02:08 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Kels will step up eventually if he is town.


You used that exact tell to read him earlier though...



No I didn't.
I mostly left him alone.

I'm aware that I've been hedging on him a lot but I've had tons of trouble reading KSC in the past so I keep trying to put it off as much as I can.

Hey. You said KSC will step up eventually. He didn't. Let's nuke him so we don't have to waste a lynch on him.


I am well aware of this.
But he lynched mafia twice, which technically falls under stepping up.

I'm going to spend some time looking into it (after mkx) but his play kind of reminds me of the last game he played where he was town and he lynched my teammates after huge bouts of inactivity.

He didn't do shit. LT's lynch was decided before his red check.
He fakeclaimed which got FF to get nuked because we had two different checks on the same target.
He caused the death of a cop.
And when said cop flipped, he rescinded his claim.


I might be remembering things wrong, then.
Hrm.

Maybe I'm wrong on the helping the LT lynch.
LT was confirmed mafia in my mind N2 for the 3 posts saying "check rayn" + sheeping a vote on me + not switching while being semi AFK + nuking not the second vote wagon. But maybe KSC's red check helped others vote him.


Rels - Already thought LT was mafia

On August 28 2015 23:52 Rels wrote:
LT was confirmed mafia in my mind N2 for the 3 posts saying "check rayn" + sheeping a vote on me + not switching while being semi AFK + nuking not the second vote wagon.


Fidei86 - Seemed Null on LT. Wanted to lynch FF first. KSC check probably influenced him.

On August 25 2015 19:54 Fidei86 wrote:
I would rather lynch FF than LT, but I'm happy to sheep the town circle, if you all are set on LT.


JudgeJudy - Already thought LT was mafia

ObiWanShinobi - Looks like he had LT in his top two, but prefered chez and switched over to LT after claim.

On August 24 2015 13:29 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I still want to lynch yamato.
LT is also a good choice for selling rayn as a good cop check.
Otherwise whatever.


On August 25 2015 07:06 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Oh right I forgot that someone else guessed it.
Nvm ignore me I'm just rambly and bad.

I'ma vote Chez.


Breshke - Seems like LT was his preference to die after tube on n2, but he didn't outright say it.

On August 24 2015 09:50 Breshke wrote:
shining do you have more nukes? You should nuke LT


On August 24 2015 23:18 Breshke wrote:
##Nuke:Lord Tolkien


Tictock - Was on the fence about LT prior to the claim. KSC likely pushed him on LT over chez.

On August 25 2015 07:15 Tictock wrote:
So tbh, I'm not all that convinced LT is scum. The fact that he was saying to check rayn is only bad in retrospect since rayn flipped pgo, his late vote on rels is a bit more telling though

For now, I'm with Obi

Chez is either scum or needs to start pulling his weight if he is town.

##Vote: Chez


Damdred - Tough to say who would have lynched D3. It isn't very clear based on filter.

ritoky - Posted this prior to KSC's claim. Likely either LT or chez.

On August 25 2015 07:11 ritoky wrote:
imo the 3 possible lynches today are rels, LT, and chez. probably moreso just LT and chez.


I went back to see where everyone was at prior to the KSC red check claim on LT. It seems like most people suspected a combination of LT and chez at the time. It was probably pretty even between who would have been lynched on d3 between the two. KSC probably did change the mind of a couple people....Fidei and TT in particular. While I agree that the check was likely responsible for pushing LT over the top of chez, without the red check I'd say LT would have lasted one more cycle at the most.
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7466 Posts
August 28 2015 15:28 GMT
#3165
Save the Chez!

Nuke the Chez!
lol, clueless in The Prism!
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7466 Posts
August 28 2015 15:29 GMT
#3166
Rels, I'm curious how are you going to defend yourself after I flip? Do you really think I'm 3p? Cause I'm not. After I flip, they will come after you. MUAHAHHAHHAHA!!!!
lol, clueless in The Prism!
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 28 2015 15:29 GMT
#3167
Good post JJ. (=
So KSC red check didn't do a whole lot to LT being lynched.

Plus he could have rescinded his claim during the night when everyone was debating nuking Chez or FF; 'cause the main reason of FF being suspicious was having two different checks.

After FF flipped, he first tried to say he checked a dead player, before saying it was a fake claim.
An explanation for him saying "I checked a dead player" may be that he thought he could support Chezinu's claim of checking a dead player. Then he thought about it and realized it wasn't coherent with FF's claim.

I think KSC is mafia. I think we should nuke him.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 28 2015 15:30 GMT
#3168
On August 29 2015 00:29 Chezinu wrote:
Rels, I'm curious how are you going to defend yourself after I flip? Do you really think I'm 3p? Cause I'm not. After I flip, they will come after you. MUAHAHHAHHAHA!!!!

You think I will talk to you ??? stupid
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7466 Posts
August 28 2015 15:47 GMT
#3169
On August 29 2015 00:30 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2015 00:29 Chezinu wrote:
Rels, I'm curious how are you going to defend yourself after I flip? Do you really think I'm 3p? Cause I'm not. After I flip, they will come after you. MUAHAHHAHHAHA!!!!

You think I will talk to you ??? stupid

look who's talking
lol, clueless in The Prism!
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
August 28 2015 15:52 GMT
#3170
On August 29 2015 00:06 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2015 00:02 Damdred wrote:
I explained my role to geript yes.
I don't win even if I die, I win if I survive or if fid survives since I got my upgrade.

OK I feel dumb for not understanding that =X

Show nested quote +
On August 29 2015 00:02 Damdred wrote:
Geript being retarded doesn't make him mafia, it just makes it possible for him to be a godfather but ff did check geript so he still has sa green check to fall back on.

Just a framer would do. Remember N2 tube the framer still lived, so FF check could have been framed. We only have one check on geript now.
Plus, I find weird that he put suspicions on you immediately after EON3; you say he's lying; then he rescind his accusation; and you let it go.
Does geript being retarded really not making him mafia ? (I want meta!)


No geript being retarded doesn't make him town. Him being green checked by confirmed cop FF makes him so, THOUGH to be fair FF did reveal his role pretty earlish I believe so scum team could know Kel is lying which is why hes still alive and when they saw where FF vote fell they framed geript.

So him being disingenuous to a point in mason qt and being another way in thread makes me consider the possibility.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
August 28 2015 15:53 GMT
#3171
Chez are you town?
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 28 2015 15:53 GMT
#3172
Leaving work and starting the weekend, so as always won't be super active during it.

TO ANYBODY NOT HERE SINCE I POSTED STUFF TODAY: read my Chezinu case and vote him. Then don't let Chez clutter the thread and try to ignore his stuff.

Please ignore the big OWS case, it was debunked by OWS and JJ.

The main point today is deciding who to nuke. At the moment I think it should be KSC, I think he's mafia. If you want to know why; read the last few pages!

Only alternative would be geript atm for me, because of:
- general uselessness the whole game
- lying during D3 about the scooby doo ghost QT
- wanting to lynch Damdred at the beginning of D4 even though he knew his role
- only having a green check during N2 by FF, when a framer was still alive; no protection claimed anymore

But it is a big maaaaaaaaaybe, I would prefer a KSC nuke a lot more right now.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 28 2015 15:55 GMT
#3173
On August 29 2015 00:52 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2015 00:06 Rels wrote:
On August 29 2015 00:02 Damdred wrote:
I explained my role to geript yes.
I don't win even if I die, I win if I survive or if fid survives since I got my upgrade.

OK I feel dumb for not understanding that =X

On August 29 2015 00:02 Damdred wrote:
Geript being retarded doesn't make him mafia, it just makes it possible for him to be a godfather but ff did check geript so he still has sa green check to fall back on.

Just a framer would do. Remember N2 tube the framer still lived, so FF check could have been framed. We only have one check on geript now.
Plus, I find weird that he put suspicions on you immediately after EON3; you say he's lying; then he rescind his accusation; and you let it go.
Does geript being retarded really not making him mafia ? (I want meta!)


Him being green checked by confirmed cop FF makes him so, THOUGH to be fair FF did reveal his role pretty earlish I believe so scum team could know Kel is lying which is why hes still alive and when they saw where FF vote fell they framed geript.

Did FF claimed his role before EON2 ? If yes, the green check on geript has 0 value. Can't remember and I have to go )=
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 28 2015 15:58 GMT
#3174
On August 29 2015 00:55 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2015 00:52 Damdred wrote:
On August 29 2015 00:06 Rels wrote:
On August 29 2015 00:02 Damdred wrote:
I explained my role to geript yes.
I don't win even if I die, I win if I survive or if fid survives since I got my upgrade.

OK I feel dumb for not understanding that =X

On August 29 2015 00:02 Damdred wrote:
Geript being retarded doesn't make him mafia, it just makes it possible for him to be a godfather but ff did check geript so he still has sa green check to fall back on.

Just a framer would do. Remember N2 tube the framer still lived, so FF check could have been framed. We only have one check on geript now.
Plus, I find weird that he put suspicions on you immediately after EON3; you say he's lying; then he rescind his accusation; and you let it go.
Does geript being retarded really not making him mafia ? (I want meta!)


Him being green checked by confirmed cop FF makes him so, THOUGH to be fair FF did reveal his role pretty earlish I believe so scum team could know Kel is lying which is why hes still alive and when they saw where FF vote fell they framed geript.

Did FF claimed his role before EON2 ? If yes, the green check on geript has 0 value. Can't remember and I have to go )=

Can someone check that ? If not I will do it when I find time. FF green check having 0 value would make me hesitate a lot more between KSC and geript.
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7466 Posts
August 28 2015 16:01 GMT
#3175
On August 29 2015 00:53 Damdred wrote:
Chez are you town?


Damdred. It doesn't matter what I do or what the flips are, Rel will always come up with an excuse. So am I town?

Let's think about this, do you really see me working with the other mafia members? Do you think there is multiple 3p role? If so how many? I am not 3p. I am... cannot claim. But whatever I was, I have forgotten my win con.

Onegu doesn't make this easy.
lol, clueless in The Prism!
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 28 2015 16:44 GMT
#3176
Another thought I had on the subway: geript Scooby doo qt was just a justification of him voting ksc. Now we know its fake, why did geript still voted ksc ? He may have tried to deflect the lynch from lt ? In fact he didn't vote lt
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7466 Posts
August 28 2015 17:08 GMT
#3177
Guys, I think I'm mafia who has forgotten his win condition. I think I final figured it out.

If that is the case, Rels and Rit should die.
lol, clueless in The Prism!
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
August 28 2015 17:12 GMT
#3178
There was more than scooby doo qt for why I voted KSC
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7466 Posts
August 28 2015 17:29 GMT
#3179
Am I the baddie?

lol, clueless in The Prism!
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7466 Posts
August 28 2015 17:40 GMT
#3180
town, brown, and mafia
I fit none.. I do not belong..

Where am I? I do not know.
I know not
I know not
my role in this game

What can I win but to live?
On what condition is my victory?

Evul Evul is the joke of hosts.

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