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deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
August 04 2015 18:32 GMT
#34
/in
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
August 04 2015 21:23 GMT
#51
On August 05 2015 05:46 VisceraEyes wrote:
Yo party people - what's it like playing without filter? I've completely forgotten...


How do you play mafia again, I've forgotten

Also it took me way too long to find the quote button, why is it so small.
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
August 04 2015 21:43 GMT
#54
On August 05 2015 06:26 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2015 06:23 deconduo wrote:
On August 05 2015 05:46 VisceraEyes wrote:
Yo party people - what's it like playing without filter? I've completely forgotten...


How do you play mafia again, I've forgotten

Also it took me way too long to find the quote button, why is it so small.

Differently than you would have remembered. Yeah a lot of crap has changed on the forum, we've gained and then lost a filter button since you've played too I think!


Pretty sure I played a few games with the filter, but yeah it's been a while. The timestamps are weird as well, not too sure what the point of them is.
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
August 05 2015 09:26 GMT
#63
On August 05 2015 14:37 Chezinu wrote:
BRETHEN WE HAVE A STORM TO FIGHT BEFORE WE BECOME THE STORMS THEMSELVES!!!! JOIN ME!!! TO FIGHT THIS GREAT STORM!!!!


I see some things haven't changed :D
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
August 05 2015 16:44 GMT
#66
I'm easy on the start date.
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
August 11 2015 17:25 GMT
#329
Hi. Day 1 is going strong I see.
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
August 11 2015 17:58 GMT
#345
On August 11 2015 11:23 Trfel wrote:
I know this sounds really stupid, but...

Rsoultin seems a bit towny here. Her opening post felt relaxed, and more importantly, happy to be in the game. Given that rsoultin really doesn't like playing scum, has played scum frequently in her last several games, and had a very frustrating game as town that ended earlier today (despite the game being a victory), it's hard for me to see her actually being happy as mafia this early on in the game.

I hope I'm not making the same mistake yet again T.T


I noticed a couple of people finding fault with this read. I agree that RS's opening posts are enthusiastic, and though I don't know if the rest is true ("Given that rsoultin really doesn't like playing scum"), no one has contradicted this yet, including RS, that I have seen.


On August 11 2015 15:51 ruXxar wrote:
Hello team.
My name is ruxxy and I'm a hurricane *whoosh*.
Also am town ^^


On August 11 2015 18:01 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I'm also claiming Millderer.


On August 11 2015 18:02 Palmar wrote:
hey guys I rolled town so pls no lyncherino

not decided yet if I'm going to do things.


I dislike these kind of posts. I don't think they are a tell either way, but I just find them tacky. Yes this is a rant, and is mostly just filler

On August 11 2015 22:41 VisceraEyes wrote:
Hi! I don't like Trfel and my hurricane name is a GIRLS name. Both of those statements make me SOOOOOO angry.


However this I really don't like. I understand the whole WIFOM thing, but really we want to limit this sort of information as much as possible. I don't see how it benefits us, whether its a lie or not.

deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
August 11 2015 18:34 GMT
#354
On August 12 2015 02:26 Vivax wrote:
With such entry posts you are seeing to that.

May I call you mafia as well?


You can if you want, doesn't mean I am

Also that wasn't sarcasm, looks like a decent day so far.

On August 12 2015 03:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:
deconduo i think you should read the whole thread before posting.


Nah, I prefer to write my thoughts as they come to me.

On August 12 2015 03:00 rsoultin wrote:

:/

you said pretty much nothing with this post, condor

eh, ftr truffle is right about my not enjoying scum so much? but i can fake most things lol >< especially anger


Just getting into the swing of things. The VE post is the only thing that bothered me really. It felt a bit like a 'Hey guys, lets drop hints about our storm names' which is bad obviously.

Anyway, gotta run, back in an hour or so.
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
August 11 2015 20:43 GMT
#416
On August 12 2015 03:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2015 03:34 deconduo wrote:
Just getting into the swing of things. The VE post is the only thing that bothered me really. It felt a bit like a 'Hey guys, lets drop hints about our storm names' which is bad obviously.

Why does that matter?


It just doesn't feel like something a sensible towny would say in a game like this, given the setup. Maybe I'm reading too much into but given his response:

On August 12 2015 03:40 VisceraEyes wrote:
Decon you really think the most alignment indicative thing in the thread is me jokin gabout my hurricane name? LMAO

LMAOOOOOO

LMAO


Quite a bit of an overreaction really tbh.
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
August 11 2015 20:47 GMT
#421
On August 12 2015 05:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2015 05:43 deconduo wrote:
On August 12 2015 03:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 12 2015 03:34 deconduo wrote:
Just getting into the swing of things. The VE post is the only thing that bothered me really. It felt a bit like a 'Hey guys, lets drop hints about our storm names' which is bad obviously.

Why does that matter?


It just doesn't feel like something a sensible towny would say in a game like this, given the setup. Maybe I'm reading too much into but given his response:

On August 12 2015 03:40 VisceraEyes wrote:
Decon you really think the most alignment indicative thing in the thread is me jokin gabout my hurricane name? LMAO

LMAOOOOOO

LMAO


Quite a bit of an overreaction really tbh.

It's because it literally doesn't mean anything even if all the players in the game claimed their Hurricane names.


Then town would insta lose the next night? Unless I'm misunderstanding the setup.
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
August 11 2015 20:51 GMT
#422
On August 12 2015 05:47 deconduo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2015 05:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 12 2015 05:43 deconduo wrote:
On August 12 2015 03:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 12 2015 03:34 deconduo wrote:
Just getting into the swing of things. The VE post is the only thing that bothered me really. It felt a bit like a 'Hey guys, lets drop hints about our storm names' which is bad obviously.

Why does that matter?


It just doesn't feel like something a sensible towny would say in a game like this, given the setup. Maybe I'm reading too much into but given his response:

On August 12 2015 03:40 VisceraEyes wrote:
Decon you really think the most alignment indicative thing in the thread is me jokin gabout my hurricane name? LMAO

LMAOOOOOO

LMAO


Quite a bit of an overreaction really tbh.

It's because it literally doesn't mean anything even if all the players in the game claimed their Hurricane names.


Then town would insta lose the next night? Unless I'm misunderstanding the setup.



A Hurricane Kills list must include at least 1 name and may include at most Y players (where Y is the number of town remaining)


Mafia must include either the player's Tropical Storm Name or the player's role


So maf submit a list of everyone with their storm name, and then they win...
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
August 11 2015 20:53 GMT
#425
Hence why giving details on storm names is bad, and also as the game goes later the chances of mafia guessing your name increases as people die.

Similarly, people shouldn't reveal who they plan to vote for in the storm vote, as maf could use the list to deduce blue roles.
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
August 11 2015 20:57 GMT
#433
On August 12 2015 05:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:
i guess i am dead then.


?
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
August 11 2015 21:01 GMT
#437
On August 12 2015 05:58 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2015 05:57 deconduo wrote:
On August 12 2015 05:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:
i guess i am dead then.


?


hesabill


Ugh... I missed that when the page flipped over with my post.

Rayn, you're probably not dead tonight as maf have to give up their KP to submit hurricane kills. However once they find out one more person they'll kill you with them.
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
August 11 2015 21:01 GMT
#438
On August 12 2015 05:59 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
deconduo could you please do something useful?


Like tell people not to claim their hurricane name. Cos apparently that's pretty useful.
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
August 11 2015 21:09 GMT
#443
On August 12 2015 06:03 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2015 06:01 deconduo wrote:
On August 12 2015 05:59 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
deconduo could you please do something useful?


Like tell people not to claim their hurricane name. Cos apparently that's pretty useful.

Something that has to do with scumhunting preferably.


Meh. Only VE has looked particularly scummy to me as I've pointed out.

Everyone else is townish or neutral or absent (hi prpl).
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
August 11 2015 21:10 GMT
#446
Even with everyone jumping on ruxx, I don't see anything jump out at me reading through his filter. The mixup looks to be genuine.
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
August 11 2015 21:13 GMT
#448
On August 12 2015 06:10 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2015 06:09 deconduo wrote:
On August 12 2015 06:03 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On August 12 2015 06:01 deconduo wrote:
On August 12 2015 05:59 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
deconduo could you please do something useful?


Like tell people not to claim their hurricane name. Cos apparently that's pretty useful.

Something that has to do with scumhunting preferably.


Meh. Only VE has looked particularly scummy to me as I've pointed out.

Everyone else is townish or neutral or absent (hi prpl).

Is that just because of the storm name thing and his reaction to you pointing it out?


Yah. Your post on him is more of a meta thing than anything else, but I'll wait for his response before making any more judgements on that end.
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
August 11 2015 21:23 GMT
#454
On August 12 2015 06:16 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2015 06:13 deconduo wrote:
On August 12 2015 06:10 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On August 12 2015 06:09 deconduo wrote:
On August 12 2015 06:03 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On August 12 2015 06:01 deconduo wrote:
On August 12 2015 05:59 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
deconduo could you please do something useful?


Like tell people not to claim their hurricane name. Cos apparently that's pretty useful.

Something that has to do with scumhunting preferably.


Meh. Only VE has looked particularly scummy to me as I've pointed out.

Everyone else is townish or neutral or absent (hi prpl).

Is that just because of the storm name thing and his reaction to you pointing it out?


Yah. Your post on him is more of a meta thing than anything else, but I'll wait for his response before making any more judgements on that end.

I don't think they're necessarily reliant on meta; the Vivax read is more so since I exempted scumreading him for the same reason, it's more a general scummy thing to do (throwing dirt on someone without reasons)

The part about not reading the game is also not meta related at all, so I don't think my VE read is based on meta.


Actually I did notice that post by VE in my first read through and I thought something similar about it. I then forgot about it

As for reading the game, is that necessarily a scumtell? I'm guilty of skimming the thread a bit, and I'm sure others are as well.
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
August 11 2015 21:27 GMT
#458
On August 12 2015 06:26 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2015 02:58 deconduo wrote:
On August 11 2015 11:23 Trfel wrote:
I know this sounds really stupid, but...

Rsoultin seems a bit towny here. Her opening post felt relaxed, and more importantly, happy to be in the game. Given that rsoultin really doesn't like playing scum, has played scum frequently in her last several games, and had a very frustrating game as town that ended earlier today (despite the game being a victory), it's hard for me to see her actually being happy as mafia this early on in the game.

I hope I'm not making the same mistake yet again T.T


I noticed a couple of people finding fault with this read. I agree that RS's opening posts are enthusiastic, and though I don't know if the rest is true ("Given that rsoultin really doesn't like playing scum"), no one has contradicted this yet, including RS, that I have seen.


On August 11 2015 15:51 ruXxar wrote:
Hello team.
My name is ruxxy and I'm a hurricane *whoosh*.
Also am town ^^


On August 11 2015 18:01 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I'm also claiming Millderer.


On August 11 2015 18:02 Palmar wrote:
hey guys I rolled town so pls no lyncherino

not decided yet if I'm going to do things.


I dislike these kind of posts. I don't think they are a tell either way, but I just find them tacky. Yes this is a rant, and is mostly just filler

On August 11 2015 22:41 VisceraEyes wrote:
Hi! I don't like Trfel and my hurricane name is a GIRLS name. Both of those statements make me SOOOOOO angry.


However this I really don't like. I understand the whole WIFOM thing, but really we want to limit this sort of information as much as possible. I don't see how it benefits us, whether its a lie or not.



Show nested quote +
On August 12 2015 06:10 deconduo wrote:
Even with everyone jumping on ruxx, I don't see anything jump out at me reading through his filter. The mixup looks to be genuine.


Where has the post gone that you disliked son?


I dislike these kind of posts. I don't think they are a tell either way, but I just find them tacky.
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
August 11 2015 21:33 GMT
#463
On August 12 2015 06:31 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2015 06:27 deconduo wrote:
On August 12 2015 06:26 Vivax wrote:
On August 12 2015 02:58 deconduo wrote:
On August 11 2015 11:23 Trfel wrote:
I know this sounds really stupid, but...

Rsoultin seems a bit towny here. Her opening post felt relaxed, and more importantly, happy to be in the game. Given that rsoultin really doesn't like playing scum, has played scum frequently in her last several games, and had a very frustrating game as town that ended earlier today (despite the game being a victory), it's hard for me to see her actually being happy as mafia this early on in the game.

I hope I'm not making the same mistake yet again T.T


I noticed a couple of people finding fault with this read. I agree that RS's opening posts are enthusiastic, and though I don't know if the rest is true ("Given that rsoultin really doesn't like playing scum"), no one has contradicted this yet, including RS, that I have seen.


On August 11 2015 15:51 ruXxar wrote:
Hello team.
My name is ruxxy and I'm a hurricane *whoosh*.
Also am town ^^


On August 11 2015 18:01 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I'm also claiming Millderer.


On August 11 2015 18:02 Palmar wrote:
hey guys I rolled town so pls no lyncherino

not decided yet if I'm going to do things.


I dislike these kind of posts. I don't think they are a tell either way, but I just find them tacky. Yes this is a rant, and is mostly just filler

On August 11 2015 22:41 VisceraEyes wrote:
Hi! I don't like Trfel and my hurricane name is a GIRLS name. Both of those statements make me SOOOOOO angry.


However this I really don't like. I understand the whole WIFOM thing, but really we want to limit this sort of information as much as possible. I don't see how it benefits us, whether its a lie or not.



On August 12 2015 06:10 deconduo wrote:
Even with everyone jumping on ruxx, I don't see anything jump out at me reading through his filter. The mixup looks to be genuine.


Where has the post gone that you disliked son?


I dislike these kind of posts. I don't think they are a tell either way, but I just find them tacky.



Given your total absence of scumreads I figured you would have pulled out a method of figuring them out by now. If that wasn't it, what have you got to offer?


Read the last page of the thread maybe?
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
August 11 2015 21:37 GMT
#468
On August 12 2015 06:34 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2015 06:33 deconduo wrote:
On August 12 2015 06:31 Vivax wrote:
On August 12 2015 06:27 deconduo wrote:
On August 12 2015 06:26 Vivax wrote:
On August 12 2015 02:58 deconduo wrote:
On August 11 2015 11:23 Trfel wrote:
I know this sounds really stupid, but...

Rsoultin seems a bit towny here. Her opening post felt relaxed, and more importantly, happy to be in the game. Given that rsoultin really doesn't like playing scum, has played scum frequently in her last several games, and had a very frustrating game as town that ended earlier today (despite the game being a victory), it's hard for me to see her actually being happy as mafia this early on in the game.

I hope I'm not making the same mistake yet again T.T


I noticed a couple of people finding fault with this read. I agree that RS's opening posts are enthusiastic, and though I don't know if the rest is true ("Given that rsoultin really doesn't like playing scum"), no one has contradicted this yet, including RS, that I have seen.


On August 11 2015 15:51 ruXxar wrote:
Hello team.
My name is ruxxy and I'm a hurricane *whoosh*.
Also am town ^^


On August 11 2015 18:01 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I'm also claiming Millderer.


On August 11 2015 18:02 Palmar wrote:
hey guys I rolled town so pls no lyncherino

not decided yet if I'm going to do things.


I dislike these kind of posts. I don't think they are a tell either way, but I just find them tacky. Yes this is a rant, and is mostly just filler

On August 11 2015 22:41 VisceraEyes wrote:
Hi! I don't like Trfel and my hurricane name is a GIRLS name. Both of those statements make me SOOOOOO angry.


However this I really don't like. I understand the whole WIFOM thing, but really we want to limit this sort of information as much as possible. I don't see how it benefits us, whether its a lie or not.



On August 12 2015 06:10 deconduo wrote:
Even with everyone jumping on ruxx, I don't see anything jump out at me reading through his filter. The mixup looks to be genuine.


Where has the post gone that you disliked son?


I dislike these kind of posts. I don't think they are a tell either way, but I just find them tacky.



Given your total absence of scumreads I figured you would have pulled out a method of figuring them out by now. If that wasn't it, what have you got to offer?


Read the last page of the thread maybe?


You mean how you scumread VE cause you don't understand the roleclaim? I think that's bad enough of a justification to be taken into consideration for a proper scumread.


On August 12 2015 06:32 Vivax wrote:
I think the explanation is that they didn't read properly, or don't care to do so.


Do you ever take your own advice?
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
August 12 2015 18:56 GMT
#653
On August 12 2015 08:16 ruXxar wrote:
@Deconduo can I get some reads from you?


I mentioned before that VE is the only scum read I had, but here's a more thorough breakdown:

Rayn:
Almost certainly town. He's kinda taken the lead a bit, and has been vocal about pushing ruxx. Don't particularly agree with his case, but his attitude is good.

Artanis:
Pretty sure he's town.

Vivax:
I like a couple of his posts, feels townish to me. Bit of a dick though

Trfel:
I like his post on RS at the start of the game.

RS:
No real read, but trfel's original post is enough to put her slightly on the town side for now.

Palmar/prpl/chez/damdred/hopeless1der:
Meh, nothing from them really yet.

Ve:
I've said a few things before about him, but in addition, a lot of his posts just seem forced. Voting for him.

##Vote VisceraEyes
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
August 12 2015 18:58 GMT
#656
On August 13 2015 03:56 deconduo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2015 08:16 ruXxar wrote:
@Deconduo can I get some reads from you?


I mentioned before that VE is the only scum read I had, but here's a more thorough breakdown:

Rayn:
Almost certainly town. He's kinda taken the lead a bit, and has been vocal about pushing ruxx. Don't particularly agree with his case, but his attitude is good.

Artanis:
Pretty sure he's town.

Vivax:
I like a couple of his posts, feels townish to me. Bit of a dick though

Trfel:
I like his post on RS at the start of the game.

RS:
No real read, but trfel's original post is enough to put her slightly on the town side for now.

Palmar/prpl/chez/damdred/hopeless1der:
Meh, nothing from them really yet.

Ve:
I've said a few things before about him, but in addition, a lot of his posts just seem forced. Voting for him.

##Vote VisceraEyes


Oh missed you in that. You can go in the neutral pile as well.
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
August 12 2015 19:05 GMT
#658
On August 12 2015 22:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2015 20:50 rsoultin wrote:
obv he's got nothing and mechanics are easy to hide behind, but more interesting to me is i'm not sure why town would already be thinking about how mafia could get information out of storm votes/narrow down storm names to assassinate

I am pretty sure i know the answer in case deconduo is town but let's hear an answer from him.


Being too focused on mechanics something I get accused of a bit (and I've been lynched for it before ). I love weird mechanics and trying work out the optimal plays in a given situation. I'm also a kind of shitty scumhunter so I tend to try and focus on my strengths where possible.

TBH I was kind of hoping to be scum this game. I love the idea of working out a massive hurricane hitlist and winning in one turn.
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
August 12 2015 19:10 GMT
#659
On August 13 2015 03:59 Vivax wrote:
Why don't you have a read on Ruxxar in that post deconduo?


I was responding to him so I overlooked him. He goes in the neutral pile for now, though I am reading trflel's case against him now,
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
August 12 2015 19:41 GMT
#672
On August 13 2015 04:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
then lynch hopeless.
why cant any of you read anything.
this game is so bad.


Do you have a case on hopeless? I had a quick look through your filter and didn't see anything.
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
August 12 2015 19:53 GMT
#695
On August 13 2015 04:51 prplhz wrote:
what about VE i don't remember him being so under the radar?


Some top quality posts by VE:

On August 12 2015 03:40 VisceraEyes wrote:
Decon you really think the most alignment indicative thing in the thread is me jokin gabout my hurricane name? LMAO

LMAOOOOOO

LMAO


On August 12 2015 06:45 VisceraEyes wrote:
Oh man Artanis was that real? If so you're just....not allowed to read me anymore I guess. At least with any expectation of being taken seriously.

XD


On August 12 2015 06:46 VisceraEyes wrote:
Like why are people even trying to meta read me anyway? I barely ever play anymore LMAO

Whatever, it's just funny.

deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
August 12 2015 20:00 GMT
#704
On August 13 2015 04:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2015 04:41 deconduo wrote:
On August 13 2015 04:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
then lynch hopeless.
why cant any of you read anything.
this game is so bad.


Do you have a case on hopeless? I had a quick look through your filter and didn't see anything.

can you make your own decision on him?
or is it like "if rayn does not have a case on him i won't..."
(btw look closer, i do)


I mean you vote hopeless at the start without saying anything about him. Literally the only thing I can find is this, which you post after voting him:

On August 12 2015 01:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On August 12 2015 01:55 Hopeless1der wrote:
Man rayn never likes me.

Look man if you are town you need to try to get your reads out no matter how good/bad they are, because that's what you do as town. If people (like i do) scumread you for it then they do, who cares.

If you are scum please feel free to continue acting like you don't give any fucks and just hide behind smartass questions which is what you do as mafia.

I have actually never tried to meta you (because i usually don't remember what you have posted the game before when the next game begins) until now, 15mins ago.


Not much of a case really.
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
August 12 2015 20:04 GMT
#709
On August 13 2015 05:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On August 13 2015 05:00 deconduo wrote:
On August 13 2015 04:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 13 2015 04:41 deconduo wrote:
On August 13 2015 04:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
then lynch hopeless.
why cant any of you read anything.
this game is so bad.


Do you have a case on hopeless? I had a quick look through your filter and didn't see anything.

can you make your own decision on him?
or is it like "if rayn does not have a case on him i won't..."
(btw look closer, i do)


I mean you vote hopeless at the start without saying anything about him. Literally the only thing I can find is this, which you post after voting him:

On August 12 2015 01:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 12 2015 01:55 Hopeless1der wrote:
Man rayn never likes me.

Look man if you are town you need to try to get your reads out no matter how good/bad they are, because that's what you do as town. If people (like i do) scumread you for it then they do, who cares.

If you are scum please feel free to continue acting like you don't give any fucks and just hide behind smartass questions which is what you do as mafia.

I have actually never tried to meta you (because i usually don't remember what you have posted the game before when the next game begins) until now, 15mins ago.


Not much of a case really.

1000x better than yours tbh.


I disagree. I don't see how 'Get your reads out' is any more of a case then 'Way over the top reactions to the slightest FOS'
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