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Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 08 2015 10:40 GMT
#1441
On August 08 2015 19:30 scott31337 wrote:
I dislike the way people play this game now. It's all ad hom and useless posts and is actually just generally very poor.

Have you read the game now ? There were no ad hom or useless posts until eod.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 08 2015 10:44 GMT
#1442
On August 08 2015 19:40 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2015 19:30 scott31337 wrote:
I dislike the way people play this game now. It's all ad hom and useless posts and is actually just generally very poor.

Have you read the game now ? There were no ad hom or useless posts until eod.

Yeah. It was all cool.
And obviously holyflare's rule break had nothing to do with the ad hom later. Obviously. How could someone ever think it would.
table for two on a tv tray
iGrok
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5142 Posts
August 08 2015 10:47 GMT
#1443
On August 08 2015 19:40 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2015 19:30 scott31337 wrote:
I dislike the way people play this game now. It's all ad hom and useless posts and is actually just generally very poor.

Have you read the game now ? There were no ad hom or useless posts until eod.

That was an exact quote from HF's post. Not sure if scott feels that way or was just quoting HF.

@HF I can't believe you're actually defending yourself, and not even apologizing for your attitude towards Alakaslam. Like, if you're mad at me because I yelled you into shutting up, I understand. But you were so condescending towards the hosts whose game you were usurping, its unfathomable that you find yourself completely in the right.
MOTM | Stim.tv | TL Mafia | Fantasy Fighting! | SNSD
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-08 10:52:10
August 08 2015 10:50 GMT
#1444
Where on earth was I condescending? I still don't understand.

If you can point out how my actions were irredemable/game ruining etc then be my guest it is you and yamato who simply ruined things when you could have continued playing the game and ignored me. All I did was post my flip. Get over your fucking self.

Take it up in the ban list and argue about your hard on for standard procedure there.
iGrok
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5142 Posts
August 08 2015 10:53 GMT
#1445
I'm waiting for HF/Sent to make their banlist post, and then I'll have my say there.

I don't need to point out where you went wrong because Alakaslam already did:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/491051-desert-center-mini-mafia?page=71#1403
MOTM | Stim.tv | TL Mafia | Fantasy Fighting! | SNSD
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 08 2015 10:55 GMT
#1446
Simply put it's a silly concept that a player can be warned and banned and a replacement list can be made for players who are inactive but as soon as a host is and someone decides to preserve the game state and deadline times while a host is afk it's unacceptable and people go crazy and wish for a person to die? Ok igrok.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 08 2015 10:58 GMT
#1447
There is a rule that says in bold blue text:
"This is a mod font. Please do not use it."

Like you can argue that if you continue posting after death people can just ignore your posts and play the game. But it is as stupid as this.

And yeah i do apologize for whqt i said to you. But the point still stands.
I cant fucking understand how people think they are somehow above the hosts and do this shit INTENTIONALLY?!?!

Even if you think you did nothing wrong can you at least see what it caused? And rethink. Even for a little bit?
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iGrok
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5142 Posts
August 08 2015 10:59 GMT
#1448
The game state would have been preserved anyways, because the votes would have ended and you would have flipped eventually. What would have been lost by waiting?

P.S. I never said it was ok for people to wish other people to die.
MOTM | Stim.tv | TL Mafia | Fantasy Fighting! | SNSD
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 08 2015 10:59 GMT
#1449
On August 08 2015 19:55 Holyflare wrote:
Simply put it's a silly concept that a player can be warned and banned and a replacement list can be made for players who are inactive but as soon as a host is and someone decides to preserve the game state and deadline times while a host is afk it's unacceptable and people go crazy and wish for a person to die? Ok igrok.

Then you should bring their hosting up elsewhere.
At least i do that if i think someone's hosting is unacceptable.
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iGrok
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5142 Posts
August 08 2015 11:01 GMT
#1450
On August 08 2015 19:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:
There is a rule that says in bold blue text:
"This is a mod font. Please do not use it."

Like you can argue that if you continue posting after death people can just ignore your posts and play the game. But it is as stupid as this.

And yeah i do apologize for whqt i said to you. But the point still stands.
I cant fucking understand how people think they are somehow above the hosts and do this shit INTENTIONALLY?!?!

Even if you think you did nothing wrong can you at least see what it caused? And rethink. Even for a little bit?

Plus, this is directly from the OP:
OP:
Posting after death is actually more strictly prohibited. No goodbyes, only acceptable things are GG, go (alignment) and :popcorn:. Nothing else at all.
MOTM | Stim.tv | TL Mafia | Fantasy Fighting! | SNSD
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-08 11:04:44
August 08 2015 11:04 GMT
#1451
Sure it caused the game to dissolve and I'm sorry for that. That is simply not because I posted a flip (which even alakaslam says would have been acceptable). You could simply not handle it and I have no idea why not. You must be fundamentally flawed to be a stickler for the rules so much so that you would think I was ruining the game by doing what a host woild be doing anyway. If you crossed oit my name and it said Alakaslam on my posys there would be no issue.

Your reasons are childish and immature.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 08 2015 11:10 GMT
#1452
Of course it would be okay because he is a host and you are not.
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iGrok
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5142 Posts
August 08 2015 11:11 GMT
#1453
On August 08 2015 20:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Of course it would be okay because he is a host and you are not.

I've literally been sitting here trying to figure out how to respond to that.
MOTM | Stim.tv | TL Mafia | Fantasy Fighting! | SNSD
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 08 2015 11:14 GMT
#1454
And how has what I posted altered any of your views of the game or given anything other than my alignment away? The rule for posting after death is clearly meant for circumstances which give game altering information away.


You can do or say whatever you want to be honest. In no way did I insult alakaslam or anyone, I simply wanted the game to continue. Alakaslam's post if you actually read it misconstrues every post to have an alterior motive behind it which it does not. My first post was simply a rhetorical I guess they forgot post. The other posts were so alakaslam could simply maintain that the integrity of the game was still intact and was not an attack on his intelligence in the slightest.

Grow up people, learn to not be fucking rule whores and adapt to circumstances. Cya never.
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 08 2015 11:16 GMT
#1455
Wait, I hope the way how the votecount tool is strict with vote formatting didn't cause any of this?

Unfortunately I don't think it would be a good idea to make it "too" lenient. Otherwise there could too easily be unintended votes. However, I'm working on a solution to allow nicknames (and slight mistakes in spelling?) at some point.

In any case, I don't think there's a huge need to test the tool right now. Didn't seem like there were any problems during this game (except the duplicate names for Edgar), and it's now mostly working, just nice to see multiple games using it - both for finding unexpected problems and just overall seeing it in action.

Seems sad if many people are quitting TL Mafia... I can understand IRL issues and such, I've also taken long breaks because of that, but I hope it's not something definitely permanent.

(P.S. Are there really no filters anymore on TL...? :/ )
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
iGrok
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5142 Posts
August 08 2015 11:18 GMT
#1456
On August 08 2015 20:16 Xatalos wrote:
Wait, I hope the way how the votecount tool is strict with vote formatting didn't cause any of this?

Unfortunately I don't think it would be a good idea to make it "too" lenient. Otherwise there could too easily be unintended votes. However, I'm working on a solution to allow nicknames (and slight mistakes in spelling?) at some point.

In any case, I don't think there's a huge need to test the tool right now. Didn't seem like there were any problems during this game (except the duplicate names for Edgar), and it's now mostly working, just nice to see multiple games using it - both for finding unexpected problems and just overall seeing it in action.

Seems sad if many people are quitting TL Mafia... I can understand IRL issues and such, I've also taken long breaks because of that, but I hope it's not something definitely permanent.

(P.S. Are there really no filters anymore on TL...? :/ )

That's not it, no worries. Tool is great!
MOTM | Stim.tv | TL Mafia | Fantasy Fighting! | SNSD
iGrok
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5142 Posts
August 08 2015 11:19 GMT
#1457
On August 08 2015 20:14 Holyflare wrote:
And how has what I posted altered any of your views of the game or given anything other than my alignment away? The rule for posting after death is clearly meant for circumstances which give game altering information away.


You can do or say whatever you want to be honest. In no way did I insult alakaslam or anyone, I simply wanted the game to continue. Alakaslam's post if you actually read it misconstrues every post to have an alterior motive behind it which it does not. My first post was simply a rhetorical I guess they forgot post. The other posts were so alakaslam could simply maintain that the integrity of the game was still intact and was not an attack on his intelligence in the slightest.

Grow up people, learn to not be fucking rule whores and adapt to circumstances. Cya never.


On August 08 2015 05:05 EdgarAllanPoE wrote:
I will post it I guess since the hosts don't even know that their own game cycle is over?


Insulting slam.

Multiple instances of you acting extremely condescending to other players available on-demand, if you really want to keep denying it.
MOTM | Stim.tv | TL Mafia | Fantasy Fighting! | SNSD
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 08 2015 11:26 GMT
#1458
Ok. Well, HF is a really good player (at least from what I remember from the Ippo game) so it's sad if he quits over something like this (I get that his behaviour has been inappropriate here, but still..).
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 08 2015 11:29 GMT
#1459
On August 08 2015 20:14 Holyflare wrote:
And how has what I posted altered any of your views of the game or given anything other than my alignment away? The rule for posting after death is clearly meant for circumstances which give game altering information away.


You can do or say whatever you want to be honest. In no way did I insult alakaslam or anyone, I simply wanted the game to continue. Alakaslam's post if you actually read it misconstrues every post to have an alterior motive behind it which it does not. My first post was simply a rhetorical I guess they forgot post. The other posts were so alakaslam could simply maintain that the integrity of the game was still intact and was not an attack on his intelligence in the slightest.

Grow up people, learn to not be fucking rule whores and adapt to circumstances. Cya never.

Well for starters these two things.

Yamato's alignment is a crapshoot for now on. I dont know if it is a mafia strategy to call things borderline cheating and get demotivated, or if he is being genuine as town.. what i do know is that he will get demotivated as either alignment and basically wont play the game any more because he thinks it's invalid. And i dont fault him for that.

Scott still thought you are mafia when you posted your flip. He thought you were lying. Well yeah it makes him town.

So yeah. There were two things that definitely affected the game purely based on your actions.
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
August 08 2015 12:04 GMT
#1460
##abort

let's have everyone just calm down, this is just a thing we do to have fun alright. No one should quit because people have said mean things.

it's a shame slam missed the deadline but real life is more important, plus he is generously giving up time and effort to host.
HF shouldn't have done what he did but he was lynched and that anger probably made him act out, tempers ran high and i'm sure people have said things they now regret.


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