Mini Mafia Down Under 3

On July 25 2015 03:38 GlowingBear wrote:
Pre-game excuse: I have exam today and I'll be drinking like a maniac after it

On July 25 2015 07:49 KelsierSC wrote:
It's a real shame that I have to waste one of my posts on this but I guess...time? is something people have trouble with.
After I died in Gaiden I played in a newbie game and in lost but not forgotten, I rolled vt in both.

bf perhaps you have an excuse of being overeager but scott you were in the newbie game with me.

scott has been pretty wasteful so far, this comment is rather silly



considering there is more than one scum, so if I make an allegedly scummy post no one else can be scum?

On July 25 2015 08:23 KelsierSC wrote:


So just to get this straight, you thought the scummy thing about my post was that I claimed vt?
what does this have to do with LS claiming ?
how is Rsoul "different"?

On July 25 2015 16:01 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Last thought before bed:
I want to know why scott gave ksc posts + what his read on ksc is now.

He had this whole bit on not liking ksc's entrance, ksc came back with "you can't find me scummy if you don't find anyone else scummy" (which makes no sense at all) and then scott immediately left him alone and gave him posts.
Made no sense at all.

On July 26 2015 02:29 GlowingBear wrote:


Your reads seems fabricated. You call Kelsier out but don't put him in your lynch list. You prefer to put me on the list for a reason that doesn't make me scum, and you follow thread sentiment on hopeless, and even brings firm to the table without a good reason behind it. Can you explain these things to me?

On July 26 2015 05:49 Snickers wrote:
the amount of people that got caught up on the kelsier bs and the post giving is unreal lol

On July 26 2015 06:44 Snickers wrote:
okay so here is where i am at. I am not going to post who i think is town but im at 6 people who i feel are very towny. not including myself.

as for the rest of people i would say ur crazy if you dont want to see a lot more posting from onegu and obi.

lastly i will say i do have three mafia in mind but i only want to mention that scott is probably mafia so far.

no one talk about this last part of this post but i am prty sure one person is mafia and once i make a case everyone will agree.but this is for tomorrow.

On July 26 2015 18:37 Palmar wrote:
Like if we're lynching people for doing dumb shit we would have to lynch half the town, so I don't know if we should use that as a parameter. I'm really struggling with some posts to try to determine if they're from mafia or just lazy/apathetic/bad townies.

Also I'm tempted to lynch scott for this:



He claims to be using a spreadsheet to help him determine people's alignments, but some of the stuff here is just complete fucking bullshit and 100% made up. Like I don't believe anyone who keeps a spreadsheet would do it in this way. Also check this out, detective Palmar is on the case:

Things that bother me about the format of this thing:

• I would have removed the numbers in front of the names (these are exactly from the playerlist)
  
• There is no progression in the reads. This was all clearly written in a single sitting as evidenced by Glowingbear's commentary about his second part d1 looking better.
  

However on the other hand this is clearly copy pasted from a spreadsheet so if he is lying about using a spreadsheet he at least opened up google docs or something and pasted this in.

meeeeeeeehhhhhh~~~~

Maybe I should give him a pass based on that?

Don't know, it actually feels like I should.

It's so bad though...

On July 26 2015 18:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Why does he say his spreadsheet is shitty?
Why would anyone keep a shitty spreadsheet?

Also why does he say there are scummy voters on Hopeless? Who is scummy on Hopeless?

i am apparently not, so it has to be Clarity. I don't know how he ends up in Clarity being mafia when he is voting for the same person (Hopeless) and Clarity thinks Hopeless is mafia. It doesn't make any sense. It also doesn't make any sense he uses a plural on "voters", because it is impossible he thinks more than one person on Hopeless is mafia.

Unless he is lying about his read on me or his read on himself.

On July 27 2015 02:49 FirmTofu wrote:
Just looked into scott and hopeless because they're the top candidates. It seems that they are at odds with each other which leads me to believe that they are probably not on the same mafia team together. Mafia bussing each other this early seems like a risky play to me. Could be wrong on that one though.

Hopeless seems like just bad town to me. (Yes, I know I'm giving town read now, fuck you)



This post right here seems to have some genuine frustration/anger associated with it. He focuses on the the part of scott's post that refers specifically to himself and votes scott because scott has a scumlean on hopeless and didn't elaborate on why. This type of play usually only happens because a town player can't comprehend why any other player would accuse them of being scum because, after all, the town player is town and only scum would call a town player scum.

It's terrible logic, but only logic that would come from someone who is town. I'm tentatively town on hopeless but I'll vote him for self-preservation if worse comes to worse.

On to scott.


I absolutely despise this post. There are so many things wrong here. Scott just posted all of his reads. This is another instance of the semblance of contribution without the actual contribution.

Let's evaluate whether this post actually helps town. More than half of the people are just "Null" to him, meaning his read on them is completely useless to us.

Of the scumleans he has, I'm one of them and I know I'm town. He's wrong about at least one of his scumleans. His other scumleans are just low posters(easy targets). It doesn't take a genius to point out easy targets. This is exactly the type of post I would expect from mafia. Low contribution, lots of fancy list making, and completely useless. (I actually used to do this as mafia when I was in Titanic mini mafia 2 on this site if anyone wants to have a look, rayn was in that game)

Totally down to lynch scott.
##vote: scott31337

On July 27 2015 03:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Scott who are the scummy people you were talking about who were voting for Hopeless at that time?

On July 27 2015 03:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:

Also:
Scott why did you give posts to Kelsier?

On July 27 2015 04:44 KelsierSC wrote:
I thought scott was scummy, I posted a quote of his that was scummy.

Yes superb evidence, it really makes me look "terrible"

can we lynch tofu already.

On July 27 2015 05:25 Snickers wrote:
unless you have a very very very very strong read as scott mafia get off of him and vote clarity.

unless you have a very strong read on tofu get off of him.

if you have a smidgen of thought that clairty could possibly be scum vote him.

On July 27 2015 05:51 GlowingBear wrote:


I must say I also think it could be possible

Scott, who are the Mafia doing that?

On July 27 2015 05:58 GlowingBear wrote:


Cool

What about the people you think are Mafia?

On July 27 2015 07:21 GlowingBear wrote:


Now we lynch Scott

On July 28 2015 07:14 boxerfred wrote:
Why is there an edited out vote from scott?

On July 28 2015 02:39 boxerfred wrote:
I actually think we should go for someone who tried to stop the scum train:

scott31337 (4): boxerfred, Hopeless1der, FirmTofu, GlowingBear, FirmTofu

That would include me.

So, regarding me:

- I'm town. Har har, I can tell from my role PM.
- I was the first on scott so technically, I didn't jump a train but instead stayed on who I chose to vote for.

Hopeless1ider:



This is really a concerning post. Like "interested in contesting" - the usage of this word implies that the claim is not legit. Also while it appears like a proactive thing, trying to raise interest, there is no follow up to it when such thoughts didn't get much grip.

Reading his filter:
He says something on palmar, then on scott (casts his vote on him), a bit on Onegut ("Null/town lean") and a bit of blabla ("can't read him") on Rayn. Lots of flailing, nothing that's really helpful for town, not in the slightest tbh.

GlowingBear:

Well he did a huge case on Kelsier D1, biggest argument being



Well. That'd be a bit of way-too-hardcore bussing wouldn't it? Although I think KSC actually is capable of doing it, he bussed and double bussed in Gaiden, too. However how likely is it to role scum twice in a row? Not too likely. I know this is not bullet proof but it's another indicator of KSC being town.

However, his case doesn't get grip. But by that time, Tofu has 5 votes upon him and it becomes rather likely that he'd be the lynch! GB knows that, he already soft defends Tofu:





Then, he joins the train:



He does that, being the 6th vote. He brings up a totally NEW reason though, like as if he had to justify why he jumps the train on Tofu. However 20 minutes later, he again starts soft defending Tofu, indirectly:




Also, note how he says "scummy lurkers" without any follow up though. Like, 0 follow up.

Next up, scott:


So the guy he wants to hang (of course along with KSC) says something about an obscure feeling and GB simply asks who scott is referring to? Well, GB (as quoted above!) actually says quite a lot of times that Tofu is not a good lynch. That clarity is better. Kelsier is better. Scott is better. How is he so sure?

He then goes on with some words on mafia trying to get another train than tofu running. And BOOM, GB tries to get another train starting:










So yeah. I'm pretty convinced that GB is scum.

On July 30 2015 02:52 ObiWanShinobi wrote:


I don't really think it was that weird for him to jump to the "possible Gf" angle.
You'll have to explain that bit to me.

On July 30 2015 04:44 rsoultin wrote:
47/80

lol at least prof cancelled lab

wth are you people running around like chickens with your heads cut off? we have over 2 hours left before the lynch

order of business:
- hopeless claimed cop. if you are the real cop and you're not ccing him, you are wrong
- scott could be gf but statistically the chances are higher he's town assuming hope isn't cc'd. off the table in a 2 hr crunch
- slam needs to hard claim jailer/banisher if he is one. he's getting shot tonight if he's town and doesn't claim it anyway, and it removes the ridiculous ambiguity snickers started in the first place

i am not lynching gb
i'm not scum

if slam doesn't hard claim, i'm sorely tempted to lynch him, but will consider leaving it another day for him to get caught up

we need to discuss the lynch, be organized, and consolidate

i'm thinking bf but it's more poe than anything. what does everyone got?

On July 31 2015 18:11 Palmar wrote:

I think you're both town.

On August 02 2015 19:31 boxerfred wrote:
I expect apologies once I flip green.