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scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
July 23 2015 22:26 GMT
#42
K my spot did get given away in NSM 13

/in
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scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
July 24 2015 03:52 GMT
#61
/confirm
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scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
July 24 2015 19:29 GMT
#108
On July 25 2015 03:38 GlowingBear wrote:
Pre-game excuse: I have exam today and I'll be drinking like a maniac after it


Damnit and this is a weekend I won't be....
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scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
July 24 2015 22:01 GMT
#136
FIRST
CONFTOWN
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scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
July 24 2015 22:02 GMT
#137
GB are you my friend?
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scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
July 24 2015 22:28 GMT
#146
Hmm, cuz I thought Kei's post was the scummiest so far.
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scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
July 24 2015 23:06 GMT
#160
1/75
On July 25 2015 07:49 KelsierSC wrote:
It's a real shame that I have to waste one of my posts on this but I guess...time? is something people have trouble with.
After I died in Gaiden I played in a newbie game and in lost but not forgotten, I rolled vt in both.

bf perhaps you have an excuse of being overeager but scott you were in the newbie game with me.

scott has been pretty wasteful so far, this comment is rather silly

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On July 25 2015 07:28 scott31337 wrote:
Hmm, cuz I thought Kei's post was the scummiest so far.


considering there is more than one scum, so if I make an allegedly scummy post no one else can be scum?


##Give 5 posts to KelsierSC
If I actually go thru 80 posts in a cycle I would impress myself to be honest.

I know there's three scum - I haven't liked VT claims since my second game, and neither should you - It's not as bad as LS claiming when the breeze blows by is what I was stating.

GB didn't reply that he was my friend, just that he is town - I'm town too but not the response I wanted.

Palmar speaking the truth, he's probably my favorite player next to HF.

Rsoul already seems different this game - could be a good sign.
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scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
July 24 2015 23:49 GMT
#163
On July 25 2015 08:23 KelsierSC wrote:
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On July 25 2015 08:06 scott31337 wrote:
1/75
On July 25 2015 07:49 KelsierSC wrote:
It's a real shame that I have to waste one of my posts on this but I guess...time? is something people have trouble with.
After I died in Gaiden I played in a newbie game and in lost but not forgotten, I rolled vt in both.

bf perhaps you have an excuse of being overeager but scott you were in the newbie game with me.

scott has been pretty wasteful so far, this comment is rather silly

On July 25 2015 07:28 scott31337 wrote:
Hmm, cuz I thought Kei's post was the scummiest so far.


considering there is more than one scum, so if I make an allegedly scummy post no one else can be scum?


##Give 5 posts to KelsierSC
If I actually go thru 80 posts in a cycle I would impress myself to be honest.

I know there's three scum - I haven't liked VT claims since my second game, and neither should you - It's not as bad as LS claiming when the breeze blows by is what I was stating.

GB didn't reply that he was my friend, just that he is town - I'm town too but not the response I wanted.

Palmar speaking the truth, he's probably my favorite player next to HF.

Rsoul already seems different this game - could be a good sign.


So just to get this straight, you thought the scummy thing about my post was that I claimed vt?
what does this have to do with LS claiming ?
how is Rsoul "different"?



Yes. What else did you do in that post? I do not see anything else...
The LS thing - It's a bad claim - just like what other people do and have not learned their lesson.
Does that make sense to you?

Rsoul seems happier and called people out quickly unlike her last two scum games. It's only one post, but...

Palmar is one of my favorites as town - blunt, to the point - but if he needs to pull out the stops (the game rayn bussed everybody and Palmar kicked it up d4 to get the win) he will.

I'll be back in a couple hours. (and I can't count my posts for shit either, 1/75 when I posted already doh!)
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scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
July 25 2015 02:25 GMT
#179
Any other thoughts so far Drunkbear? Did Snickers solve the game already?
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scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
July 25 2015 16:20 GMT
#261
On July 25 2015 16:01 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Last thought before bed:
I want to know why scott gave ksc posts + what his read on ksc is now.

He had this whole bit on not liking ksc's entrance, ksc came back with "you can't find me scummy if you don't find anyone else scummy" (which makes no sense at all) and then scott immediately left him alone and gave him posts.
Made no sense at all.


Not sure how this didn't make any sense - KSC posted about how he had to waste a post on replying to my post and seemed angry about it - so I gave him five posts. Does that make sense?

Rsoul gets a slight townlean for now, her second list is slightly better than the first one I wasn't really caring for though.

Not lynching Rayn today, probably not Onegu either -
Obi's question to me was weird but I don't see any scum motivation for it.

If GB doesn't show up today we can lynch him - Firm and Hopeless are on that list too.
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scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
July 25 2015 21:52 GMT
#370
On July 26 2015 02:29 GlowingBear wrote:
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On July 26 2015 01:20 scott31337 wrote:
On July 25 2015 16:01 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Last thought before bed:
I want to know why scott gave ksc posts + what his read on ksc is now.

He had this whole bit on not liking ksc's entrance, ksc came back with "you can't find me scummy if you don't find anyone else scummy" (which makes no sense at all) and then scott immediately left him alone and gave him posts.
Made no sense at all.


Not sure how this didn't make any sense - KSC posted about how he had to waste a post on replying to my post and seemed angry about it - so I gave him five posts. Does that make sense?

Rsoul gets a slight townlean for now, her second list is slightly better than the first one I wasn't really caring for though.

Not lynching Rayn today, probably not Onegu either -
Obi's question to me was weird but I don't see any scum motivation for it.

If GB doesn't show up today we can lynch him - Firm and Hopeless are on that list too.


Your reads seems fabricated. You call Kelsier out but don't put him in your lynch list. You prefer to put me on the list for a reason that doesn't make me scum, and you follow thread sentiment on hopeless, and even brings firm to the table without a good reason behind it. Can you explain these things to me?



I called Kel on his VT claim and I thought that was scummy - but his responses have seemed okay.

Your reponses have been pretty good today, as that you are interested in solving the game.

I'm not seeing these magical townreads on Snickers - he requoted his huge ass vote post and that's half of his three page filter right there. The post I do like of his though
On July 26 2015 05:49 Snickers wrote:
the amount of people that got caught up on the kelsier bs and the post giving is unreal lol


And while writing this up, he goes and posts

On July 26 2015 06:44 Snickers wrote:
okay so here is where i am at. I am not going to post who i think is town but im at 6 people who i feel are very towny. not including myself.

as for the rest of people i would say ur crazy if you dont want to see a lot more posting from onegu and obi.

lastly i will say i do have three mafia in mind but i only want to mention that scott is probably mafia so far.

no one talk about this last part of this post but i am prty sure one person is mafia and once i make a case everyone will agree.but this is for tomorrow.


He wants me as the lynch though - and doing the Kelsier thing - "There's three mafia, one of them is scott, I don't want to name the other two, ignore this post." - I'm not going to if you call me out on it when I'm town though, buddy, or waiting until tomorrow.
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scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
July 25 2015 22:13 GMT
#374
Scotty's shitty spreadsheet at the moment -

1 KelsierSC null - questioned me on the VT claim, but it felt weird how he did it.
2 FirmTofu null/scumlean - little posting, nothing sticks out.
3 Onegu named town no CC, going after rsolutin for being angry too early, but she doesn't seem that angry (scummy angry) YET.
4 Snickers others like him but I don't see why? (notably Clarity, rsoul) Calls me mafia - suspicious
5 raynpelikoneet Started off good but has faided, slight town lean
6 Clarity_nl null / slight scum? Wants to lynch me
7 boxerfred Nothing special, six posts of meh - scumlean
8 ObiWanShinobi Didn't see scum motivation from his post to me - little posting - null
9 rsoultin Slight townlean, not too angry - keep an eye to see if she does the magic trick if not just lynch D4.
10 GlowingBear second part d1 looking better, not too angry either - asking townie questions - townlean
11 Palmar townlean for a Palmar d1 day.
12 scott31337 town
13 Hopeless1der scumlean, first post was bad - but suspicious/scummy voters on him so need to watch for that.
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scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
July 26 2015 18:01 GMT
#487
On July 26 2015 18:37 Palmar wrote:
Like if we're lynching people for doing dumb shit we would have to lynch half the town, so I don't know if we should use that as a parameter. I'm really struggling with some posts to try to determine if they're from mafia or just lazy/apathetic/bad townies.

Also I'm tempted to lynch scott for this:

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On July 26 2015 07:13 scott31337 wrote:
Scotty's shitty spreadsheet at the moment -

1 KelsierSC null - questioned me on the VT claim, but it felt weird how he did it.
2 FirmTofu null/scumlean - little posting, nothing sticks out.
3 Onegu named town no CC, going after rsolutin for being angry too early, but she doesn't seem that angry (scummy angry) YET.
4 Snickers others like him but I don't see why? (notably Clarity, rsoul) Calls me mafia - suspicious
5 raynpelikoneet Started off good but has faided, slight town lean
6 Clarity_nl null / slight scum? Wants to lynch me
7 boxerfred Nothing special, six posts of meh - scumlean
8 ObiWanShinobi Didn't see scum motivation from his post to me - little posting - null
9 rsoultin Slight townlean, not too angry - keep an eye to see if she does the magic trick if not just lynch D4.
10 GlowingBear second part d1 looking better, not too angry either - asking townie questions - townlean
11 Palmar townlean for a Palmar d1 day.
12 scott31337 town
13 Hopeless1der scumlean, first post was bad - but suspicious/scummy voters on him so need to watch for that.


He claims to be using a spreadsheet to help him determine people's alignments, but some of the stuff here is just complete fucking bullshit and 100% made up. Like I don't believe anyone who keeps a spreadsheet would do it in this way. Also check this out, detective Palmar is on the case:

Things that bother me about the format of this thing:

  • I would have removed the numbers in front of the names (these are exactly from the playerlist)
  • There is no progression in the reads. This was all clearly written in a single sitting as evidenced by Glowingbear's commentary about his second part d1 looking better.


However on the other hand this is clearly copy pasted from a spreadsheet so if he is lying about using a spreadsheet he at least opened up google docs or something and pasted this in.

meeeeeeeehhhhhh~~~~

Maybe I should give him a pass based on that?

Don't know, it actually feels like I should.

It's so bad though...




I'll remove the numbers for next time - I actually use Excel - and what has happened so far? the Onegu/Snickers exchange shitting up the thread and rayn's comment on Tofu. Hopeless posted a decent thought that makes him look better. Let me finish reading before I add my thoughts - I also backed up my spreadsheet and wiped my machine for Windows 10 last night (which is why I wasn't on much) so let me retreive that and re-post where I am at.

Just so we are clear - I've read quite a few of your games - and although you claim you really don't have a meta - I believe you do - you actually care a little more as town at winning - and usually you'll get shot like n1 or n2 anyway as town when showing a glimmer that you will catch the mafia team - so why really worry about you now? That's what I meant by my post.

On July 26 2015 18:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Why does he say his spreadsheet is shitty?
Why would anyone keep a shitty spreadsheet?

Also why does he say there are scummy voters on Hopeless? Who is scummy on Hopeless?

i am apparently not, so it has to be Clarity. I don't know how he ends up in Clarity being mafia when he is voting for the same person (Hopeless) and Clarity thinks Hopeless is mafia. It doesn't make any sense. It also doesn't make any sense he uses a plural on "voters", because it is impossible he thinks more than one person on Hopeless is mafia.

Unless he is lying about his read on me or his read on himself.


The reason why I called it shitty as when I posted it in the last two games - lots of people called it bad/shitty. I guess I should'nt have added that line, now that I see your point of view. I personally use it to keep track of ideas and thoughts in my head that I like to share with town at times, and keep track of people for the first couple of days so I do not forget anybody or let them slip in the cracks.

I see Tofu's back and voting for me - let me get breakfast and break down his post next.
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scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
July 26 2015 18:43 GMT
#500
On July 27 2015 02:49 FirmTofu wrote:
Just looked into scott and hopeless because they're the top candidates. It seems that they are at odds with each other which leads me to believe that they are probably not on the same mafia team together. Mafia bussing each other this early seems like a risky play to me. Could be wrong on that one though.

Hopeless seems like just bad town to me. (Yes, I know I'm giving town read now, fuck you)

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On July 26 2015 12:35 Hopeless1der wrote:
Snickers I disagree with you on onegu, but I think you're town.

a. claimed named town (No CC)
Null/ Townlean imo. Certainly not instant scumread like you wish to imply.

b. Bussing + Sheeping

How the everloving fuck could you know this unless you were scum with him? Are you admitting you are scum?

I get your point about the whole CC being not indicative, but your estimates of 1/20 or 19/20 chances are ludicrous.




I cant read rayn, and if I get into a pissing contest I will lose. Please have mercy, rayn.



Re: Scott
Notice how I have 3 whole voters and one of them is scott
Also note the timestamps


On July 26 2015 01:24 Half the Sky wrote:
Day 1 Vote Count


---> Hopeless1der (3): raynpelikoneet, Clarity_nl, scott31337
rsoultin (2): Onegu, Snickers
raynpelikoneet (1): Palmar
KelsierSC (0): Snickers

Not voted (7): KelsierSC, FirmTofu, boxerfred, ObiWanShinobi, rsoultin, GlowingBear, Hopeless1der

As the wind blows, Hopeless1der is staring death in the face.
Day 1 ends in at 22:00 GMT (+00:00).

The voting thread is here. Only votes in the voting thread will be counted.
The live voting tracker is located here.
Please FORMAT YOUR VOTES CORRECTLY in the voting thread or the script will not pick your vote up!


Okay, now read this shitty list post from scott, look at who's voting me and what his thoughts are on those players:

On July 26 2015 07:13 scott31337 wrote:
Scotty's shitty spreadsheet at the moment -

1 KelsierSC null - questioned me on the VT claim, but it felt weird how he did it.
2 FirmTofu null/scumlean - little posting, nothing sticks out.
3 Onegu named town no CC, going after rsolutin for being angry too early, but she doesn't seem that angry (scummy angry) YET.
4 Snickers others like him but I don't see why? (notably Clarity, rsoul) Calls me mafia - suspicious
5 raynpelikoneet Started off good but has faided, slight town lean
6 Clarity_nl null / slight scum? Wants to lynch me
7 boxerfred Nothing special, six posts of meh - scumlean
8 ObiWanShinobi Didn't see scum motivation from his post to me - little posting - null
9 rsoultin Slight townlean, not too angry - keep an eye to see if she does the magic trick if not just lynch D4.
10 GlowingBear second part d1 looking better, not too angry either - asking townie questions - townlean
11 Palmar townlean for a Palmar d1 day.
12 scott31337 town
13 Hopeless1der scumlean, first post was bad - but suspicious/scummy voters on him so need to watch for that.


Would lynch.
##Vote scott31337


As an aside, it annoys me when people bring up my first post and say its "forced" or "bad" with no further commentary on WHY its forced or bad.


This post right here seems to have some genuine frustration/anger associated with it. He focuses on the the part of scott's post that refers specifically to himself and votes scott because scott has a scumlean on hopeless and didn't elaborate on why. This type of play usually only happens because a town player can't comprehend why any other player would accuse them of being scum because, after all, the town player is town and only scum would call a town player scum.

It's terrible logic, but only logic that would come from someone who is town. I'm tentatively town on hopeless but I'll vote him for self-preservation if worse comes to worse.

On to scott.
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On July 26 2015 07:13 scott31337 wrote:
Scotty's shitty spreadsheet at the moment -

1 KelsierSC null - questioned me on the VT claim, but it felt weird how he did it.
2 FirmTofu null/scumlean - little posting, nothing sticks out.
3 Onegu named town no CC, going after rsolutin for being angry too early, but she doesn't seem that angry (scummy angry) YET.
4 Snickers others like him but I don't see why? (notably Clarity, rsoul) Calls me mafia - suspicious
5 raynpelikoneet Started off good but has faided, slight town lean
6 Clarity_nl null / slight scum? Wants to lynch me
7 boxerfred Nothing special, six posts of meh - scumlean
8 ObiWanShinobi Didn't see scum motivation from his post to me - little posting - null
9 rsoultin Slight townlean, not too angry - keep an eye to see if she does the magic trick if not just lynch D4.
10 GlowingBear second part d1 looking better, not too angry either - asking townie questions - townlean
11 Palmar townlean for a Palmar d1 day.
12 scott31337 town
13 Hopeless1der scumlean, first post was bad - but suspicious/scummy voters on him so need to watch for that.


I absolutely despise this post. There are so many things wrong here. Scott just posted all of his reads. This is another instance of the semblance of contribution without the actual contribution.

Let's evaluate whether this post actually helps town. More than half of the people are just "Null" to him, meaning his read on them is completely useless to us.

Of the scumleans he has, I'm one of them and I know I'm town. He's wrong about at least one of his scumleans. His other scumleans are just low posters(easy targets). It doesn't take a genius to point out easy targets. This is exactly the type of post I would expect from mafia. Low contribution, lots of fancy list making, and completely useless. (I actually used to do this as mafia when I was in Titanic mini mafia 2 on this site if anyone wants to have a look, rayn was in that game)

Totally down to lynch scott.
##vote: scott31337



Okay. So your vote is based on me having four scumleans, and one of them is wrong because it's you, correct? Others have thought that my list was somewhat useful - and it is useful to me. I obs'ed Titanic (that was during my 20 mafia game obs's run to try to understand a bit more before I got my feet wet) but I do not like your reasoning for going after me - it seems weak. The votes on you look much better than the ones on me as well.


On July 27 2015 03:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Scott who are the scummy people you were talking about who were voting for Hopeless at that time?


Clarity was the suspicious voter I was referring to - Hopeless looks better now.

On July 27 2015 03:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On July 27 2015 03:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Scott who are the scummy people you were talking about who were voting for Hopeless at that time?

Also:
Scott why did you give posts to Kelsier?


I posted about this already - Kelsier seemed angry about having to waste a post on replying to me about his VT claim - so I gave him five of my own, since I knew there's very little chance I'm going to use the whole 80 in a cycle.
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scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
July 26 2015 20:40 GMT
#633
On July 27 2015 04:44 KelsierSC wrote:
I thought scott was scummy, I posted a quote of his that was scummy.

Yes superb evidence, it really makes me look "terrible"

can we lynch tofu already.


Why do I get this feeling we are right on Tofu and mafia are trying to get us to swap?
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scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
July 26 2015 20:49 GMT
#642
On July 27 2015 05:25 Snickers wrote:
unless you have a very very very very strong read as scott mafia get off of him and vote clarity.

unless you have a very strong read on tofu get off of him.

if you have a smidgen of thought that clairty could possibly be scum vote him.


Tofu is waffling pretty badly right now and I get this mafia feeling to try to pull off of him - so I do have a pretty strong (or strongest) at this time on him.
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scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
July 26 2015 20:57 GMT
#651
On July 27 2015 05:51 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2015 05:49 scott31337 wrote:
On July 27 2015 05:25 Snickers wrote:
unless you have a very very very very strong read as scott mafia get off of him and vote clarity.

unless you have a very strong read on tofu get off of him.

if you have a smidgen of thought that clairty could possibly be scum vote him.


Tofu is waffling pretty badly right now and I get this mafia feeling to try to pull off of him - so I do have a pretty strong (or strongest) at this time on him.


I must say I also think it could be possible

Scott, who are the Mafia doing that?


I do not know if you are mafia but you seem to be fighting his lynch pretty strongly (posted your case on Kelsier a couple hours ago when it looked like Tofu's getting the noose when maybe it would be better for day 2, asked rayn to vote me, asked palmar to vote me, etc.)
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scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
July 26 2015 21:11 GMT
#662
On July 27 2015 05:58 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2015 05:57 scott31337 wrote:
On July 27 2015 05:51 GlowingBear wrote:
On July 27 2015 05:49 scott31337 wrote:
On July 27 2015 05:25 Snickers wrote:
unless you have a very very very very strong read as scott mafia get off of him and vote clarity.

unless you have a very strong read on tofu get off of him.

if you have a smidgen of thought that clairty could possibly be scum vote him.


Tofu is waffling pretty badly right now and I get this mafia feeling to try to pull off of him - so I do have a pretty strong (or strongest) at this time on him.


I must say I also think it could be possible

Scott, who are the Mafia doing that?


I do not know if you are mafia but you seem to be fighting his lynch pretty strongly (posted your case on Kelsier a couple hours ago when it looked like Tofu's getting the noose when maybe it would be better for day 2, asked rayn to vote me, asked palmar to vote me, etc.)


Cool

What about the people you think are Mafia?


Boxerfred - His vote/post on me was pretty bad, I don't see his town direction - and he wants the Clarity lynch, who I think is town (or at least townier than these two, tofu and boxer)

The third I have no idea on - prby a vet.

I'd switch to boxer instead of Tofu - I'm just not seeing the Clarity points others are showing.
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scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
July 26 2015 21:14 GMT
#665
I have just re-read Clarity's filter, never mind it's really bad - a vote on me and a comment on Hopeless's post (although Hopeless did a bit better) and nothing much else.

I could vote for him too.
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scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
July 26 2015 22:20 GMT
#718
Scott still mafia right Kappa

Good job all!
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