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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 22 2015 22:23 GMT
#23
/in
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 24 2015 02:32 GMT
#58
/confirm
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 24 2015 22:15 GMT
#139
Bleep bloop.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 25 2015 06:29 GMT
#186
On July 25 2015 10:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2015 08:59 Hopeless1der wrote:
Anyone interested in contesting the claims or are we going to just ignore that? For reference, my thoughts are onegu good, rayn indifferent.

I also don't get how Palmar literally claiming Mafia is conducive to being "blunt and to the point" as town.

Or kenpachI ruling people. Someone teach me how to kenpachI rule.

I think this guy is mafia.


Possibly.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 25 2015 06:30 GMT
#187
On July 25 2015 11:38 Snickers wrote:
lol hopeless rider confirmed scum


On July 25 2015 11:39 Snickers wrote:
im so clueless idk if there is a voting thread or not let me find out.


I also have no clue what the fuck this guy is doing.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 25 2015 07:01 GMT
#190
Last thought before bed:
I want to know why scott gave ksc posts + what his read on ksc is now.

He had this whole bit on not liking ksc's entrance, ksc came back with "you can't find me scummy if you don't find anyone else scummy" (which makes no sense at all) and then scott immediately left him alone and gave him posts.
Made no sense at all.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 25 2015 13:45 GMT
#222
ur bad
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 25 2015 13:51 GMT
#225
I don't really think I've misrep'd kelsier at all? That's how it read to me.
/shrug
I'm not even trying to say I have an issue with kelsier. I've liked a lot of his questioning thus far. It's scott I didn't like, because I didn't understand how his read evolved.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 25 2015 18:29 GMT
#322
Inclined to townread Palmar for making me giggle.
(I mean he's got some other good stuff in his filter but the most important part is that he amuses me.)
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 25 2015 19:03 GMT
#335
On July 26 2015 03:36 Onegu wrote:
Rsoul why so angry?

Also why dont you believe my claim.

Legit scum read now.


I don't understand how this is scummy.
Elaborate?
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 25 2015 19:53 GMT
#342
On July 26 2015 04:13 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2015 04:03 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On July 26 2015 03:36 Onegu wrote:
Rsoul why so angry?

Also why dont you believe my claim.

Legit scum read now.


I don't understand how this is scummy.
Elaborate?



She is more angry as scum


Okay I guess.
Why is her not believing your claim scummy?
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 26 2015 02:20 GMT
#386
On July 26 2015 07:25 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2015 07:02 GlowingBear wrote:
It confuses me when people give Rayn town passes over mostly nothing

He gets special treatment because I just cba arguing him to be scum unless I'm sure. It's such a pain in the ass to try to do it.


Try lynching him while he's sleeping.

(I'm catching up and I'll post stuff in a bit.)
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 26 2015 03:45 GMT
#397
Hope, I don't understand the point of your scott case?
Elaborate for me?
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 26 2015 03:53 GMT
#399
On July 26 2015 12:51 Onegu wrote:
Like what is my motivation as scum to make this claim this early?

Your odds are way off there are normally 2-3 blues in a 13 player setup. There are 7 possible blue roles. So the odds are 2/7 or 3/7 you get CC if you make this claim as scum. There are 3 scum out of 13. So yes the slight majority of the time you dont get CC and you are ok. But the other 40ish percent of the time you are CC and at best you trade 1 for 1 against a blue that has no powers. But knowing me I am lynched first and then you lost one scum and confirmed a town. Not worth the risk.

Also you think I am bussing Rsoul when if we were scum together... Wait nevermind I would totally bus the shit out of her if we ever rolled scum together. But we didnt.


It's not like this reasoning stopped you from shooting scib.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 26 2015 03:54 GMT
#401
I would advocate taking a serious look at Onegu if he continues down this path of "I claimed so I'm confirmed town."
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 26 2015 04:05 GMT
#407
On July 26 2015 12:59 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2015 12:54 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I would advocate taking a serious look at Onegu if he continues down this path of "I claimed so I'm confirmed town."


he's done it too much as town for that to mean anything? like, i have a way to read him but it requires a little more time than this lol >< and it's still in it's early stages but it bore fruit last game


It doesn't matter.
He's had enough scumgames where he claims/does terrible things with his roles to know that it doesn't mean anything for him in terms of being confirmed town.

His claim buys him a day, maybe. That's it.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 26 2015 04:07 GMT
#409
On July 26 2015 12:55 Hopeless1der wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2015 12:45 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Hope, I don't understand the point of your scott case?
Elaborate for me?

Can I just say "waffle" and leave it at that?

@GB re kelsier

I see a number of somewhat explained town reads in his filter but little to no scum reads and vague "I'd lynch this guy...maybe" vibes. Not feeling great about kelsier but I would really want to lynch him today.


Iuno.
Like.
I know what you're saying and I also want to lynch scott.

I was kind of aware of the idea behind what you were saying but I felt like there was something I was missing from your post.
Like in hindsight it was kind of obvious but still.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 26 2015 04:11 GMT
#410
On July 26 2015 13:05 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2015 12:54 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I would advocate taking a serious look at Onegu if he continues down this path of "I claimed so I'm confirmed town."



Onegu confirmed town.


-.-
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 26 2015 04:19 GMT
#411
On July 26 2015 13:07 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2015 12:55 Hopeless1der wrote:
On July 26 2015 12:45 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Hope, I don't understand the point of your scott case?
Elaborate for me?

Can I just say "waffle" and leave it at that?

@GB re kelsier

I see a number of somewhat explained town reads in his filter but little to no scum reads and vague "I'd lynch this guy...maybe" vibes. Not feeling great about kelsier but I would really want to lynch him today.


Iuno.
Like.
I know what you're saying and I also want to lynch scott.

I was kind of aware of the idea behind what you were saying but I felt like there was something I was missing from your post.
Like in hindsight it was kind of obvious but still.


I guess the point of this jumbled mishmash of garbage is that I think Hope is probably town.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 26 2015 05:20 GMT
#415
On July 26 2015 13:40 GlowingBear wrote:Then admits being stupid isn't a scum tell but he would be okay to lynch me anyway.


I do this literally all the time.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 26 2015 15:48 GMT
#472
On phone.
Current lynch list: scott. Probably ft.
Also hi.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 26 2015 17:03 GMT
#473
Where is everyone? :/
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 26 2015 17:09 GMT
#474
Anyways I'm going to vote FT.

My biggest issue with him was that he came up with all of these reasons to vote Palmar, but disappeared after throwing his vote down. Not only did it feel very token, but he did so at a time where the VC looked really terrible in terms of vote spread.

I'm also willing to switch to scott but I don't know how much more I can say about him that hasn't already been done to death.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 26 2015 17:14 GMT
#475
Can someone explain this clarity push to me?
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 26 2015 17:23 GMT
#479
On July 27 2015 02:21 FirmTofu wrote:
Also, the fact that this train is catching so fast should be indicative of the fact that mafia is clearly very happy about this lynch.


It wasn't really a fast train at all.
In fact you only showed up after I voted you.

Who's the mafia on your wagon and why?
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 26 2015 17:26 GMT
#481
On July 27 2015 02:23 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2015 02:21 FirmTofu wrote:
Also, the fact that this train is catching so fast should be indicative of the fact that mafia is clearly very happy about this lynch.


This would be true if the second wagon is Mafia. Do you believe scott or hopeless are Mafia?


I don't understand how this works, exactly?
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 26 2015 17:32 GMT
#483
On July 27 2015 02:29 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2015 02:26 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On July 27 2015 02:23 GlowingBear wrote:
On July 27 2015 02:21 FirmTofu wrote:
Also, the fact that this train is catching so fast should be indicative of the fact that mafia is clearly very happy about this lynch.


This would be true if the second wagon is Mafia. Do you believe scott or hopeless are Mafia?


I don't understand how this works, exactly?


Well, if both wagons are town, Mafia doesn't have to rush to decide their votes and advocate for a mislynch. In case a scum partner is up for the lynch, when a second wagon is proposed and the guy is town, if fills much faster.


The only time I've seen the speed of a wagon dictate anything is at EoD, when there's a wagon that's safe and easy to jump on.
IE not in this circumstance.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 26 2015 18:01 GMT
#488
FT, what did you think of Bf's list post? He was one of your top lynches but you haven't said anything about him yet.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 26 2015 18:08 GMT
#492
On July 27 2015 03:07 FirmTofu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2015 03:01 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
FT, what did you think of Bf's list post? He was one of your top lynches but you haven't said anything about him yet.

I don't see a list post in boxer's filter. He also wasn't my top lynches. I just said I'd be down to lynch him. His last few posts have been redeeming though and he does have a vote down for scott. I don't really want to lynch him anymore.


Redeeming how?
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 26 2015 18:38 GMT
#499
We have 3 hours and we have like 4 different players that are voting on vanity wagons.
Consolidate.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 26 2015 18:50 GMT
#504
On July 27 2015 03:46 FirmTofu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2015 03:29 Palmar wrote:
Clarity also complained about people not posting when his filter was probably less than 100 words or something super short. He has not given anything valuable yet.

I like this post because it points out hypocrisy. Also, clarity is a good lynch candidate and it shows that Palmar is wary of him.

Show nested quote +
On July 26 2015 03:42 Palmar wrote:
On July 26 2015 03:37 GlowingBear wrote:
On July 26 2015 02:32 GlowingBear wrote:
On July 25 2015 07:49 KelsierSC wrote:
It's a real shame that I have to waste one of my posts on this but I guess...time? is something people have trouble with.
After I died in Gaiden I played in a newbie game and in lost but not forgotten, I rolled vt in both.

bf perhaps you have an excuse of being overeager but scott you were in the newbie game with me.

scott has been pretty wasteful so far, this comment is rather silly

On July 25 2015 07:28 scott31337 wrote:
Hmm, cuz I thought Kei's post was the scummiest so far.


considering there is more than one scum, so if I make an allegedly scummy post no one else can be scum?


This post is SO bad.
It's an overreaction AND a deflection. Reeks scum


Palmar, address to this.
This + him constantly being annoyed that people are wasting his posts + wanting to lynch me because he doesn't like me, then saying it's because I'm stupid, then admitting that being stupid doesn't make me Mafia but still willing to lynch me is very scummy to me.


I just don't think it's as relevant as you do. But I haven't actually gone back and reread Kelsier so maybe I'll come away with a different perspective when and if I do.

Like the conversation isn't all that difficult to follow. Yes it's a slight overreaction (scott probably didn't mean it in the way Kelsier took it) but meeehhhh....

maybe I'm wrong, who knows.

I like this post because it seems like a genuine stream of consciousness post, one that reflects both uncertainty and self-doubt. Just sounds townie to me.

It also is part of series of posts he had with glowingbear that actually led to some substantive discussion on Kelsier. I like people who are actively contributing and Palmar seems to finally be doing that.

Let's be clear. I'm not saying Palmar is town or even a townread for me. Just that his last few posts are redeeming and I am okay with not lynching him.


Why is clarity a good lynch candidate? This is the first time you've mentioned him thus far.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 26 2015 19:01 GMT
#510
Hold up, is FT talking about Palmar or Bf?
I asked him about Bf.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 26 2015 19:11 GMT
#518
On July 27 2015 04:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2015 03:46 FirmTofu wrote:
Let's be clear. I'm not saying Palmar is town or even a townread for me. Just that his last few posts are redeeming and I am okay with not lynching him.

Show nested quote +
On July 27 2015 04:05 FirmTofu wrote:
To your third point, you are assuming I still think Palmar is mafia. I don't anymore and what Palmar did isn't even necessarily a contradiction. His vote in that circumstance looks more like pressure than an actual vote to lynch you.

Okay vote stands.


I don't get it.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 26 2015 19:23 GMT
#526
On July 27 2015 04:17 KelsierSC wrote:
obi can you tell me why you think ft is the better lynch over scott? What changed your mind?


I said I wanted to lynch both of them.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 26 2015 19:24 GMT
#528
On July 27 2015 04:23 Palmar wrote:
Yeah for now im gonna vote clarity

I need to run but will be back before the deadline


Why?
I feel like I've asked like 3459863498 times but nobody has answered me.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 26 2015 19:27 GMT
#531
On July 27 2015 04:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:
goddamn Palmar. At least comment on what i said about FT?!?!?

why is noone i expect to play is playing?


Well
you have me.
:>

Why is clarity probably scum?
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 26 2015 19:31 GMT
#544
On July 27 2015 04:30 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2015 04:23 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On July 27 2015 04:17 KelsierSC wrote:
obi can you tell me why you think ft is the better lynch over scott? What changed your mind?


I said I wanted to lynch both of them.


I know, it was just scott was scum and ft was a "probably" so just curious why you voted that way.


/shrug
I don't actually have much of a preference between the two.

Also I just looked into clarity's filter and, yeah, it's kinda garbage.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 26 2015 19:51 GMT
#575
On July 27 2015 04:49 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2015 04:48 rsoultin wrote:
On July 27 2015 04:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So you're shit at reading Palmar but i am wrong on him?


lol you guys love to focus in on this

i've told you why i think he's town and i've admitted i could be wrong cause i know i'm not good at reading him. so what? like, do you have a case on palmar i didn't see? i'm not just going to sheep you on him when i think he's town and i have no clue if i should trust your read over mine because i don't know how good you are at reading him. i suspect not very. he's fucking palmar -_-

I ma very good at reading Palmar.


Uhh.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 26 2015 20:03 GMT
#599
On July 27 2015 05:01 KelsierSC wrote:
rsoul is town, this is a really push.

But hey apparently that is what we do this game

Clarity, Tofu or Scott

No one else is worth considering.


Good list.
Will be getting food, be back in about an hour.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 26 2015 20:44 GMT
#638
I'm back.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 26 2015 20:48 GMT
#640
On July 27 2015 05:05 FirmTofu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2015 05:00 GlowingBear wrote:
Rayn we have so much information to deal with tofu tomorrow. Scott and clarity are way better lynches

Exactly this. Lynch someone who isn't contributing. Who isn't engaging. Even if you think I'm mafia, wouldn't it be better to just wait? You know I'm going to talk more than useless and scummy people like Clarity and scott. Maybe you'll get something out of me?


lol.
I'm not moving my vote. Sorry.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 26 2015 20:49 GMT
#641
Palmar why are you opposed to an FT lynch?
:/
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 26 2015 20:50 GMT
#644
Technically I know you're not DRASTICALLY opposed to it but I think my reasoning is pretty great.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 26 2015 21:03 GMT
#654
On July 27 2015 06:00 rsoultin wrote:
lol

ye i still think clarity is more likely to flip scum
i'll lynch ft over scott

look, obi...yeah he's afkish

but he literally comes in without a read on rayn, says he'll sheep him (yes it can be assumed he's townreading rayn there cause otherwise it makes no fucking sense) and jumps on the hopeless wagon who, if i recall, was the only real non-retarded push at the time. sheeping implies he has no read on the guy yet he starts "championing" this push on hopeless while snickers is tunneling me which felt really off...like seriously if hopeless ever flips scum it's highly likely clar is scum for that alone

then he comes back in with that big post on why he thinks hopeless is scum (which essentially is really no different from what he first said, just that hopeless' first post felt "forced") like, if the guy isn't going to be around today, you really think he puts in NO WORK, sheeps someone who he may or may not have even have had a townread on, then pretends his read on hopeless was strong by parroting what he said in the first place, which was essentially parroting what RAYN said in the first place?

we all just got out of a game with clarity. you really think this is his town game? i don't


I'm not arguing against a Clarity lynch.
I just feel very confident in my FT read.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 26 2015 21:05 GMT
#659
On July 27 2015 02:09 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Anyways I'm going to vote FT.

My biggest issue with him was that he came up with all of these reasons to vote Palmar, but disappeared after throwing his vote down. Not only did it feel very token, but he did so at a time where the VC looked really terrible in terms of vote spread.

I'm also willing to switch to scott but I don't know how much more I can say about him that hasn't already been done to death.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 26 2015 21:15 GMT
#666
Scott, you had clarity as mafia like all game.
How did he become town and then mafia again?
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 26 2015 21:32 GMT
#671
Can we get a vc?
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 26 2015 21:42 GMT
#678
Yeah we don't have the people to switch to scott.
Even then I still want to lynch FT.

Let's go with that.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 26 2015 21:46 GMT
#685
On July 27 2015 06:43 Onegu wrote:
FT needs to die here, my biggest reason was his early pushes were on what seemed like the really easy targets.


How is Palmar an easy target?
He is the exact opposite of an easy target, even when he's afk.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 26 2015 21:51 GMT
#689
On July 27 2015 06:50 KelsierSC wrote:
onegu's reason seems bad, who is an easy target he pushed on?


The only other player FT pushed on at that point in time was BF.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 26 2015 21:56 GMT
#698
On July 27 2015 06:53 rsoultin wrote:
tbh scott disappearing bothers me a lot more than his saying clar could be scum, too -_-


He's been doing this all game lmfao.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 26 2015 21:59 GMT
#707
##give 5 posts to GB
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
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July 26 2015 22:24 GMT
#723

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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 26 2015 22:32 GMT
#728
On July 27 2015 07:24 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2015 07:21 boxerfred wrote:
Good job. That puts a really bad light on Kelsier now, given his last minute "let's get on scott" stuff.


yeh I thought onegu's reason didn't make any sense , scott had disappeared and tofu had posted quite a bit . I was undecided.

Was going to vote scott then tofu ninja voted him so again I didn't know what to do. Sort of panicked last minute.


Onegu's vote still looks pretty bad btw.
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ObiWanShinobi
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July 26 2015 22:39 GMT
#732
On July 27 2015 07:35 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2015 07:32 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On July 27 2015 07:24 KelsierSC wrote:
On July 27 2015 07:21 boxerfred wrote:
Good job. That puts a really bad light on Kelsier now, given his last minute "let's get on scott" stuff.


yeh I thought onegu's reason didn't make any sense , scott had disappeared and tofu had posted quite a bit . I was undecided.

Was going to vote scott then tofu ninja voted him so again I didn't know what to do. Sort of panicked last minute.


Onegu's vote still looks pretty bad btw.


well I mean why would he come back and randomly justify his vote as scum there?



I don't see how this is relevant.
Even then, if this is what you thought then why did that affect your vote in the first place?
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 26 2015 22:43 GMT
#737
I think I'm just going to chill for a bit and rethink things.

I'm trying to solve everything at once and it's probably not necessary. Lynching off the FT wagon is probably the best course of action.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 26 2015 22:55 GMT
#741
On July 27 2015 07:49 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2015 07:43 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I think I'm just going to chill for a bit and rethink things.

I'm trying to solve everything at once and it's probably not necessary. Lynching off the FT wagon is probably the best course of action.

There is exactly 1 mafia on the wagon and 1 off it.

Or maybe not.

But i wouldn't be surprised.


10/10
Stellar analysis.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 27 2015 04:14 GMT
#754
Clarity is an objectively bad cop check.
:/
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 27 2015 04:15 GMT
#756
Rso is a better check.
So is snickers.

But clarity should just be shot or something if he's not even going to play.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 27 2015 05:48 GMT
#758
ows i looked particularly close at cause i think his comment on clarity being an objectively bad cop check was shit


Except he is.
It's really not a hard concept to understand.
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ObiWanShinobi
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United States8089 Posts
July 27 2015 13:31 GMT
#775
I'm inclined to agree with Palmar's current list.
The only things I'd change would be moving hopeless down and moving kelsier up.

Hopeless currently fits into the same heuristic as FT did - someone who posted a case for the sake of posting a case. The scenario is slightly different, considering hopeless was under pressure and FT wasn't, but it still holds because hopeless basically threw his vote down and fucked off completely after people left him alone.
If we're lynching off the FT wagon, that's where I'd look.
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ObiWanShinobi
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July 27 2015 13:35 GMT
#777
On July 27 2015 22:34 Snickers wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2015 22:31 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I'm inclined to agree with Palmar's current list.
The only things I'd change would be moving hopeless down and moving kelsier up.

Hopeless currently fits into the same heuristic as FT did - someone who posted a case for the sake of posting a case. The scenario is slightly different, considering hopeless was under pressure and FT wasn't, but it still holds because hopeless basically threw his vote down and fucked off completely after people left him alone.
If we're lynching off the FT wagon, that's where I'd look.


lol


Hm?
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ObiWanShinobi
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United States8089 Posts
July 27 2015 14:05 GMT
#781
On July 27 2015 22:57 Clarity_nl wrote:
Welp irl is shit and everything is shit. If there's a vigi they should shoot me as it doesn't look like I'll get the chance to play properly. I gtg


lol
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ObiWanShinobi
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United States8089 Posts
July 27 2015 18:04 GMT
#789
Gb who would you shoot instead of clarity?
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ObiWanShinobi
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July 27 2015 18:08 GMT
#790
What's the point of even giving him extra days if he constantly refuses to do stuff?
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ObiWanShinobi
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July 27 2015 20:02 GMT
#800
Yeah I'm still of the mind to lynch hopeless/clarity.
Gb is a dark horse lynch for me at this juncture but he's steadily climbing my list.
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ObiWanShinobi
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July 27 2015 21:19 GMT
#811
On July 28 2015 06:00 rsoultin wrote:
87/90

one word: xxx

now talk to me -_-


Rayn was the counter wagon to Jat though.
It's not the same thing.
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ObiWanShinobi
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July 27 2015 22:27 GMT
#840
I'll respond to what snickers said when I get home.

In the meantime, I'd suggest either a hopeless or a clarity lynch.
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ObiWanShinobi
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July 28 2015 00:04 GMT
#867
On July 28 2015 09:00 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2015 08:54 GlowingBear wrote:
On July 28 2015 08:52 Snickers wrote:
no but he said he thought he was lol

##vote:GlowingBear


Ok, why am I mafia?

##vote Glowingbear

Because my red check said so.


:o
Noice.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
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July 28 2015 00:26 GMT
#872
On July 28 2015 09:17 rsoultin wrote:
2/80

...

meh -_-

i really don't think he's scum, is the problem. like, i still think this is unlikely to come from a scummate as soon as ft enters the game?

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On July 25 2015 11:09 GlowingBear wrote:
I don't think you're playing?


^ GB should have known FT was playing if they were scum together?

i kinda think maybe he's a miller? cause i kinda think palmar doesn't fake-claim cop here?


I don't understand how that GB line matters?
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ObiWanShinobi
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United States8089 Posts
July 28 2015 01:37 GMT
#926
On July 28 2015 10:29 Hopeless1der wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2015 10:26 GlowingBear wrote:
On July 28 2015 02:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On July 27 2015 04:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On July 27 2015 04:54 rsoultin wrote:
On July 27 2015 04:49 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On July 27 2015 04:48 rsoultin wrote:
On July 27 2015 04:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So you're shit at reading Palmar but i am wrong on him?


lol you guys love to focus in on this

i've told you why i think he's town and i've admitted i could be wrong cause i know i'm not good at reading him. so what? like, do you have a case on palmar i didn't see? i'm not just going to sheep you on him when i think he's town and i have no clue if i should trust your read over mine because i don't know how good you are at reading him. i suspect not very. he's fucking palmar -_-

I ma very good at reading Palmar.


proof or it didn't happen

i trust myself
i trust certain players on particular other players if i'm townreading them
i trust a townread palmar's d1 reads to some extent if i at least get a similar feel

like, seriously, how can you expect me to trust you when you're not even sure and you're scumreading me in the same breath for god knows what reason?

i suspect association, personally, which just makes me want to facepalm. maybe you're right on tofu but i really think clarity is the better lynch today because i see scum there where tofu could just be bad town?

here is why rsoultin is mafia.

I said this before and i say this again. I don't care to google the english words for what this is, look at foolishness' post about "book of bad arguments".

"I cant trust your other reads because you cant even read me here".

I am serious i have never seen rsoultin say anything this stupid in a game of mafia.
She is scum, i dont care what she posts. This is enough.

Palmar is also scum.


Here, hopeless.

yeah, my quote was earlier. good try bud. Lets move on.

Show nested quote +
On July 27 2015 04:43 FirmTofu wrote:
Calling this game now. Mafia team is Clarity, scott, and Kelsier. It's just so perfect.

Who thinks there are scum in that list? I think those are all townies.


Because?
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 28 2015 01:41 GMT
#930
On July 28 2015 10:40 Hopeless1der wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2015 10:37 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On July 28 2015 10:29 Hopeless1der wrote:
On July 28 2015 10:26 GlowingBear wrote:
On July 28 2015 02:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On July 27 2015 04:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On July 27 2015 04:54 rsoultin wrote:
On July 27 2015 04:49 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On July 27 2015 04:48 rsoultin wrote:
On July 27 2015 04:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So you're shit at reading Palmar but i am wrong on him?


lol you guys love to focus in on this

i've told you why i think he's town and i've admitted i could be wrong cause i know i'm not good at reading him. so what? like, do you have a case on palmar i didn't see? i'm not just going to sheep you on him when i think he's town and i have no clue if i should trust your read over mine because i don't know how good you are at reading him. i suspect not very. he's fucking palmar -_-

I ma very good at reading Palmar.


proof or it didn't happen

i trust myself
i trust certain players on particular other players if i'm townreading them
i trust a townread palmar's d1 reads to some extent if i at least get a similar feel

like, seriously, how can you expect me to trust you when you're not even sure and you're scumreading me in the same breath for god knows what reason?

i suspect association, personally, which just makes me want to facepalm. maybe you're right on tofu but i really think clarity is the better lynch today because i see scum there where tofu could just be bad town?

here is why rsoultin is mafia.

I said this before and i say this again. I don't care to google the english words for what this is, look at foolishness' post about "book of bad arguments".

"I cant trust your other reads because you cant even read me here".

I am serious i have never seen rsoultin say anything this stupid in a game of mafia.
She is scum, i dont care what she posts. This is enough.

Palmar is also scum.


Here, hopeless.

yeah, my quote was earlier. good try bud. Lets move on.

On July 27 2015 04:43 FirmTofu wrote:
Calling this game now. Mafia team is Clarity, scott, and Kelsier. It's just so perfect.

Who thinks there are scum in that list? I think those are all townies.


Because?

reasons....but i just read your filter and you're townier than clarity and kelsier...so much for that.


I was talking about how you came to the conclusion as to how FT's scumlist was all town.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 28 2015 01:55 GMT
#935
On July 28 2015 06:58 Snickers wrote:so obi told the cop the check me or rso


Yep.

and maybe clarity i think


Nope.

but they he says that i m in his top tier of two and rso right below that tier but still town. yea that makes perfect sense.


Yeah it does.
Rso made a big post and I changed my reads.
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ObiWanShinobi
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July 28 2015 01:55 GMT
#936
On July 28 2015 10:53 Hopeless1der wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2015 10:49 Snickers wrote:
Yea Obi time to explain ur scummy play during the night buddy

wait wut?

Does the post restriction apply to a given day or does each cycle add 80 posts? i.e. do I have 80 posts for Day2 or (Whatever was left from Day1) plus 80?


He's talking about the time I was talking about cop checks.
/shrug
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ObiWanShinobi
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United States8089 Posts
July 28 2015 01:59 GMT
#938
On July 28 2015 10:58 Snickers wrote:
Wow u said u would answer me now ur blowing me off. Yea I think it's scummy to tell the cop to look at ur town reads. Especially the the person read town by most people.


I'm like 100% you're not even reading the same game as I am anymore.
How am I blowing you off, exactly?
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ObiWanShinobi
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United States8089 Posts
July 28 2015 02:26 GMT
#940
On July 28 2015 11:00 Snickers wrote:
/shrug when you said would explain


I explained it though.
Like.
What part remains unexplained? I was happy with most if not all of rso's readslist that she made after I made the statement. The fact that you're talking about me agreeing with Palmar's list is so far after my/her posts that I'm scratching my head and wondering how that made sense to you.
Why is it suspicious that I called for cop checks on two players that hard-pushed lynches opposite of the flipped mafia wagon? Or are the two thoughts just codependent on each other?

There are so many things that happened between the posts you're talking about and I just...Don't understand how this results in whatever it is you're doing right now.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 28 2015 02:28 GMT
#941
I don't even understand what the issue is with talking about cop checks. It seems like such a "nothing" factoid to pick at.
Why do people even care, like really?
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ObiWanShinobi
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United States8089 Posts
July 28 2015 02:44 GMT
#945
On July 28 2015 11:42 Snickers wrote:
it seems stupid to want the cop to check people you think are town


Except I established that I wasn't actually saying this.
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ObiWanShinobi
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United States8089 Posts
July 28 2015 02:44 GMT
#947
On July 28 2015 11:43 Snickers wrote:
like you also said i want people to consolidate and me and rso and clarity didnt maybe thats why u are confused


I don't understand what you're trying to say here. Elaborate?
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ObiWanShinobi
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United States8089 Posts
July 28 2015 02:50 GMT
#949
On July 28 2015 11:47 Snickers wrote:
am i high as balls or what obi said check these people then next post is claling these people town and it was the same night phase right?

then he said he would explain to me why and he never did.

then i ask him again and he says he already did?

did i fucking miss something? or is he just angry?


I explained that I was happy with rso's readslist which came after I had posted my bit on the claims.
It stands to reason that I would change my reads accordingly.
I don't understand why all this happening during the night phase is pivotal to the point you're making.
What makes you think I'm angry?
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ObiWanShinobi
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United States8089 Posts
July 28 2015 03:04 GMT
#951
It meant I want to lynch clarity and hopeless.
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ObiWanShinobi
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July 28 2015 03:07 GMT
#953
I was at work.
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ObiWanShinobi
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United States8089 Posts
July 28 2015 03:12 GMT
#955
I'm responding to everything you're saying right now?
I figured that you were going to talk to me or something.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 28 2015 03:21 GMT
#957
I'm laughing irl over this conversation.
Really, I am.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 28 2015 03:29 GMT
#961
On July 28 2015 12:28 Snickers wrote:
but that didnt happen


lol
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 28 2015 03:42 GMT
#966
On July 28 2015 12:34 Snickers wrote:
so i go from top two scum to top two town....


Still no.
It's a cop check, not a vigilante bullet.

when i was specfically trying to be scummy in the night to not get night killed lol


No scumteam would ever shoot you.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 28 2015 03:54 GMT
#968
Read.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 28 2015 04:49 GMT
#979
On July 28 2015 13:46 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2015 13:39 Snickers wrote:
well theres the worst post of the day so far


Snickers, those are the most damning points on Palmar. What is bad in it?

And just have in mind that rayn was shot and Palmar relied on his read on rsoultin to push her without even considering that rayn also had a scumread on him. Like, please.


The bolded I really didn't understand.
The cop thing was really weird tbh.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 28 2015 04:49 GMT
#980
I can't wrap my mind around why we would lynch Palmar over Clarity though.
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ObiWanShinobi
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United States8089 Posts
July 28 2015 04:51 GMT
#981
Gb, remind me if I missed it: why is Scott an objectively bad lynch?
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ObiWanShinobi
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July 28 2015 04:57 GMT
#985
On July 28 2015 13:53 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2015 13:49 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On July 28 2015 13:46 GlowingBear wrote:
On July 28 2015 13:39 Snickers wrote:
well theres the worst post of the day so far


Snickers, those are the most damning points on Palmar. What is bad in it?

And just have in mind that rayn was shot and Palmar relied on his read on rsoultin to push her without even considering that rayn also had a scumread on him. Like, please.


The bolded I really didn't understand.
The cop thing was really weird tbh.


I think I phrased it bad.

He made the cop thing to scumread rsoultin.
Then he used the argument that rayn scumread rsoultin and he is GOD TOWN!11!!!1!!!1!

Unfortunately, GOD TOWN also scumread Palmar and he is not considering it. He picks from Rayn only what is important to his agenda.
You DO agree with me that relying on the confirmation that Rayn is town and had a scumread on his target is a very opportunistic argument, don't you? Especially when the same Rayn also had a scumread on Palmar. If Palmar was town, he would take a step back when using Rayn's scum read on rsoultin to back up his vote.


The bolded is the key issue I had with his reasoning.
I don't understand how it outweighs a clarity vote.
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ObiWanShinobi
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United States8089 Posts
July 28 2015 05:10 GMT
#989
That's actually a pretty good case.
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ObiWanShinobi
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July 28 2015 05:16 GMT
#991
I'm kind of content to vote Palmar and see what happens.
This looks like something I can get behind.

If Palmar is scum, who else goes with him?
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 28 2015 05:22 GMT
#994
Iuno, I forgot that he wrote that giant case on scott that went nowhere.
Is that really scum/scum though?
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 28 2015 12:35 GMT
#1001
Because of gb's case, which I just said I agree with.
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ObiWanShinobi
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United States8089 Posts
July 28 2015 14:25 GMT
#1019
Palmar, elaborate a bit more on your rso read for me pls.
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ObiWanShinobi
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July 28 2015 14:42 GMT
#1023
On July 28 2015 23:29 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2015 23:25 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Palmar, elaborate a bit more on your rso read for me pls.

...

There is nothing to elaborate on.

Are you not reading thread?


I read it.
I just didn't particularly agree with it at the time and thought I was missing something before GB talked about it.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 28 2015 14:47 GMT
#1025
/shrug
I'll be at work and phoneposting most of today. Palmar's recent posting raises the bar for him somewhat, so I'll be taking a second look at that rso case.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 28 2015 20:30 GMT
#1060
Onegu I don't even know why you want to lynch rso anymore.
iirc she made a bunch of posts and you haven't even commented on them or anything. Afaik you've ignored her for almost two days.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 28 2015 20:48 GMT
#1065
On July 29 2015 05:34 boxerfred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2015 05:30 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Onegu I don't even know why you want to lynch rso anymore.
iirc she made a bunch of posts and you haven't even commented on them or anything. Afaik you've ignored her for almost two days.

He also missed that I'm not agreeing with Palmar on lynching Onegu but instead am saying that I'm fine with a policy afk lynch on people, namely Clarity. Huge pile of shit.


This probably marks either the second or third nonsensical read onegu has come up with.
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ObiWanShinobi
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United States8089 Posts
July 29 2015 00:37 GMT
#1100
I'm content voting hopeless atm.
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ObiWanShinobi
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July 29 2015 00:41 GMT
#1102
On July 29 2015 09:40 Snickers wrote:
I like how onegu implies he has done something townie since his claim lol


But he claimed though!

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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 29 2015 00:48 GMT
#1110
On July 29 2015 09:46 rsoultin wrote:
31/80

yo, ows...for the thing to work properly we have to apparently spell names right or we'll have a repeat of d1 -_-


lol fine whatever.
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ObiWanShinobi
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United States8089 Posts
July 29 2015 00:52 GMT
#1116
Onegu you've done like nothing towny.
Your reason for voting FT wasn't even good.
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ObiWanShinobi
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United States8089 Posts
July 29 2015 04:44 GMT
#1142
On July 29 2015 13:14 Snickers wrote:
well im almost ouit of posts if someone wants to donate but i couldnt find one thing where gb said we need to lynch these four people and they are all in my town circle now also

WHOAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA LOOK AT THAT HE TOLD THE COP TO CHECK RSO IN THE NIGHT AFTER CLARITY AND HE ALSO MAGICALLY THOUGHT RSO WAS TOWN AFTER HER BIG POST OF SCUM. so rso godfather.

that is all my dear friends


There are several people who did this.
I don't understand how it equates rso with "godfather."
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 29 2015 04:47 GMT
#1144
On July 29 2015 13:46 Hopeless1der wrote:
Snickers, keep whatever posts you want in a notepad file, i'll give you a couple posts tomorrow so you can avoid spamming the thread with your usual garbage. One concentrated dose that we can easily ignore would be just great though.



No pls.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 29 2015 05:06 GMT
#1147
I don't understand what you're upset about.
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ObiWanShinobi
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July 29 2015 16:25 GMT
#1208
On July 30 2015 01:02 Hopeless1der wrote:
so snickers just burns through posts because he doesnt care...wtf, why dont we have a vig.


Rso just explained this to you but you complained about it anyway.
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ObiWanShinobi
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United States8089 Posts
July 29 2015 16:26 GMT
#1209
And yeah, I'm here but I'm playing MKX.
I'm pretty happy with where we're headed today. Clarity is probably gonna get modkilled for not voting anyways so I don't see any problems atm.
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ObiWanShinobi
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July 29 2015 16:32 GMT
#1212
On July 30 2015 01:29 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2015 01:26 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
And yeah, I'm here but I'm playing MKX.
I'm pretty happy with where we're headed today. Clarity is probably gonna get modkilled for not voting anyways so I don't see any problems atm.


The problem is scott is voting hopeless with his main scumreads without having any prior suspicions or comments on hopeless when both boxer and snickers are voting for one of his top scum reads (me).


This happened?
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 29 2015 16:42 GMT
#1214
Hopeless, what do you think of what Gb just said about your green check?
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ObiWanShinobi
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United States8089 Posts
July 29 2015 16:43 GMT
#1215
Btw I unvoted in case that wasn't obvious.
If Hopeless and clarity are both mafia there's 0 chance of hopeless fakeclaiming cop here.
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ObiWanShinobi
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United States8089 Posts
July 29 2015 17:12 GMT
#1217
I don't really think it's far from the realm of possibilities to consider a gf in a game with a framer and a cop in it.
I think what Gb just brought to the table is pretty good tbf.
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ObiWanShinobi
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United States8089 Posts
July 29 2015 17:22 GMT
#1222
Gb I'm not sure what angle you're working for here.
What are you talking about?
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ObiWanShinobi
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July 29 2015 17:52 GMT
#1240
On July 30 2015 02:27 scott31337 wrote:
Sorry it had to come to that Hopeless.
##Unvote
##Vote Glowingbear


GB goes straight for the "Probably the GF"... Gotta love it. I mean people see GB be town but his EoD D1 was terrible.. Snickers and Boxer see it. Palmar slightly does.. No body else does though? I mean there's only two mafia left. Am I just blind or was it just bad townie play?


I don't really think it was that weird for him to jump to the "possible Gf" angle.
You'll have to explain that bit to me.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 29 2015 17:57 GMT
#1243
Can you guys stop fighting?
I'm not even reading that capslock wall.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 29 2015 18:04 GMT
#1248
On July 30 2015 03:03 Half the Sky wrote:
Moderator Announcement:
Please welcome Alakaslam to the Outback. He replaces Clarity_nl, effective immediately.


rofl
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 29 2015 18:10 GMT
#1259
On July 30 2015 03:07 boxerfred wrote:
OWS, why is your vote still on the un-cc-ed cop?


I'm not voting the uncc'd cop?
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 29 2015 18:13 GMT
#1266
On July 30 2015 03:10 boxerfred wrote:
Boom, another thought on scott: why did he insta-believe both cop claims? Is that a scum tmi slip? In both cases he did not wait for a possible CC. Makes me re-think my town read.

37/60


This is kind of where I'm at.
Both claims immediately benefited him so he just went "yeah sure" and didn't care about the repercussions.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 29 2015 18:15 GMT
#1267
Just an fyi that I'm going to work like 2 hours before deadline. I'll try to phonepost when I can but expect nothing.
I'll consolidate on Gb if I absolutely have to but I'd like everyone to at least look at scott, green check aside.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 29 2015 18:42 GMT
#1283
On July 30 2015 03:26 GlowingBear wrote:
To be honest, obi being ok with my lynch is extremely suspicious.


Bah


I'm not okay with it.
I'm trying to steer the lynch elsewhere.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 29 2015 18:43 GMT
#1285
On July 30 2015 03:37 KelsierSC wrote:
just horrible to not read, jump on a post from like page 60 when there is a whole game to read and then waste your vote on someone no one is voting for.

Only reason not to lynch clarity was he was getting mod killed.

##unvote

##vote Alakaslam


As opposed to what, exactly?
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 29 2015 19:00 GMT
#1291
Kelsier where did you go?
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 29 2015 19:24 GMT
#1292
##vote kelsier
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 29 2015 19:31 GMT
#1295
On July 30 2015 04:29 boxerfred wrote:
that's bullshit obi

go lynch gb


No it's not.
He just threw away his vote on a safe wagon and left, literally the EXACT SAME THING he accused Slam of doing.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 29 2015 19:41 GMT
#1297
Eh.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 29 2015 19:42 GMT
#1298
Rso and Palmar should put their votes somewhere that matters.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 29 2015 19:47 GMT
#1300
Iuno.
I'm out of ideas.
I'm heading to work.

I really don't want to lynch Slam today because he seems like 598709 times more invested/energetic than clarity and I'd rather sort him properly when he does stuff.

Do you have something on Bf outside of PoE?
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 29 2015 19:50 GMT
#1302
I don't have time to sell a case on anyone.
I'm gone in like 10 minutes.

:/
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 29 2015 20:29 GMT
#1319
Where did palmar go?
:/
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 29 2015 21:07 GMT
#1342
Not feeling a slam lynch.

Try again town.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 29 2015 21:19 GMT
#1360
On July 30 2015 06:09 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2015 06:07 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Not feeling a slam lynch.

Try again town.


You're feeling a GB lynch?


Not really.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 29 2015 21:20 GMT
#1362
"Shit and useless."
k bud
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 29 2015 22:27 GMT
#1442
Huh.
Should have stuck with my clarity read I guess.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 30 2015 00:35 GMT
#1460
On July 30 2015 08:02 KelsierSC wrote:
unfortunately it seems that obi has wanted to lynch mafia for the entire game so it's kind of hard to call him scum


Not like that's ever stopped anyone before.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 30 2015 14:52 GMT
#1480
On July 30 2015 23:36 Snickers wrote:
thats not a case

rsoul is godfather

this is a wrap boyz


Looks like a case to me.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 30 2015 22:04 GMT
#1499
lol people actually voted against time changes?
No balls.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 31 2015 04:20 GMT
#1533
On July 31 2015 12:36 GlowingBear wrote:
3/80

I'd love to see scott dying today tbh. Not the best course of action but man I wish he is godfather.


A fun thought, though not an optimal one.
I'm content with what I've got going on now so I'm gonna chill.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 31 2015 04:56 GMT
#1536
I'm getting on hearthstone now.
This is VERY IMPORTANT.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 01 2015 00:46 GMT
#1561
Uhhhh why are people voting me?
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 01 2015 03:16 GMT
#1574
On August 01 2015 11:17 Snickers wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2015 09:46 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Uhhhh why are people voting me?


probably cause you havent done anything impressive all game and nothing outstandingly townie either


I don't even know what this means.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 01 2015 03:22 GMT
#1575
I think it's really lame that I can hardpush scum almost all game and people still end up calling me useless and shit.

Fuck all of you.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 01 2015 03:34 GMT
#1579
On August 01 2015 12:32 Snickers wrote:
yea obi hard pushed scum loololol

lynch me Im done


Sure, okay.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 01 2015 03:36 GMT
#1580
On July 31 2015 15:24 GlowingBear wrote:
5/80

I'm lynching boxerfred first.

He is objectively a better lynch today.


I don't see how Bf is an objectively better lynch.
What exactly falls under "townie paranoia" for snickers? I really don't see that at all.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 01 2015 03:39 GMT
#1583
We're the toxic ones?
lol
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 01 2015 03:43 GMT
#1588
Snickers will you please just die so I don't have to read your posts anymore.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 01 2015 03:50 GMT
#1599
On August 01 2015 12:49 Snickers wrote:
you guys should learn to not be so toxic and increase ur reading skills


This is going to be my signature as soon as this game ends.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 01 2015 18:18 GMT
#1624
I'm kind of happy just lynching Snickers tbh.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 02 2015 01:39 GMT
#1635
I regret nothing.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 02 2015 14:37 GMT
#1650
(jat, koshi and i are all smart people lol ><)


Uh huh.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 02 2015 17:13 GMT
#1655
Palmar is probably the only person I can think of that wouldn't concede in this situation.
He even makes a point to play out stupid situations because he thinks it's fun.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 02 2015 17:52 GMT
#1657
On August 03 2015 02:46 boxerfred wrote:
well i concede



Oh cool.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 02 2015 18:29 GMT
#1666
Ugggghhhhhh.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 02 2015 21:00 GMT
#1685
The guy who started a CFD to scum was unmemorable?
What game are you reading?
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 02 2015 21:11 GMT
#1687
Chinese fire drill.
It's a last second swap to another player.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 02 2015 22:04 GMT
#1698
Rip.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 02 2015 22:06 GMT
#1700
Honestly it's probably just Bf.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 02 2015 22:10 GMT
#1702
I guess?
Here's an alternative question: who else does Bf shoot in his position?
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 02 2015 22:10 GMT
#1703
Because Kelsier was pretty anti-BF.
I don't see why he wouldn't shoot him.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 02 2015 22:16 GMT
#1705
On August 03 2015 07:16 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2015 07:10 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Because Kelsier was pretty anti-BF.
I don't see why he wouldn't shoot him.


That was a fast conclusion obi


Duh?
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 02 2015 22:19 GMT
#1706
Gb why is it that my conclusion was "fast" and rsoultin's wasn't?
What exactly are you getting at by bringing it up?
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 03 2015 00:55 GMT
#1724
I thought we had three.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 03 2015 00:58 GMT
#1726
Oh right.
Dur.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 03 2015 01:04 GMT
#1728
I'm working on it.
I don't really think the NKA points to Palmar over BF, tbh.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 03 2015 01:08 GMT
#1729
the nightkill:
we have a ksc kill. why does bf kill ksc? ksc certainly wants to lynch bf, but he wasn't the only one. i am arguably louder and more persuasive and also wanted to lynch bf. the only scum reason to keep both palmar and myself around, then, is to get a wagon started on either palmar or me. in my case, it's unlikely to be enough for bf to escape the lynch. and as for palmar...i'd said i preferred a bf lynch so that's quite a gamble


Like this tidbit I don't really get.
Again: who else does BF shoot?
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 03 2015 02:50 GMT
#1732
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
That Palmar case is pretty good though - specifically, I loved point 3. The only tidbit I didn't like was the NKA, but I don't think that really outweighs the case as a whole.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 03 2015 03:08 GMT
#1734
i dunnae. gonna feel very dumb if i've diverted from scum twice -_- first with snickers, then with palmar. not sure why i keep doubting the bf scumread. i think it's mostly because it's just generally poe and weak?


Mostly.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 03 2015 04:26 GMT
#1740
When will people learn to stop trying to solve games via setup?
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 03 2015 04:33 GMT
#1741
Actually I think I completely missed the point of that last post.
Disregard.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 03 2015 15:08 GMT
#1764
I don't think Palmar is calling Onegu scum, GB.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 03 2015 15:08 GMT
#1765
Who is pea?
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 03 2015 17:54 GMT
#1771
On August 04 2015 02:13 rsoultin wrote:
Meh i'm wavering on palmar again >< I think he's being awful and has been most of this game but he really hasn't been trying so eh

Prob should just lynch bf? I really am taking issue with some of his play these last two phases. The interaction this morning in particular was off


What exactly would you be expecting here from scum!Palmar?
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 04 2015 04:36 GMT
#1797
On August 04 2015 11:52 rsoultin wrote:
lol so i'm being female and would prefer a bf lynch over a palmar one, but am willing to lynch both and no one else

is anyone else playing anymore?


I had a pretty long day at work. Thought I'd be able to post but I wasn't.
I'll be catching up for a little while though.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 04 2015 05:34 GMT
#1798
And I'm caught up.
An awe-inspiring one page.
/shrug

Not really much to comment on so I guess I'll check back in in the morning.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 04 2015 13:52 GMT
#1813
I'm here.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 04 2015 14:14 GMT
#1814
I still want to lynch palmar tbh.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 04 2015 15:02 GMT
#1818
On August 04 2015 23:40 rsoultin wrote:
He's being obnoxious ows but that actually makes me think he's more likely to be town -_-


Meh.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 04 2015 19:43 GMT
#1827
What are we doing exactly?
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 04 2015 19:46 GMT
#1829
Can we not be doing this now?
Pretty pls?
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 04 2015 19:51 GMT
#1831
Literally all palmar did was throw a hissy fit and everybody is sheeping him for no reason.
What are you people doing, like really?
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 04 2015 19:54 GMT
#1833
This game is hysterical.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 04 2015 20:09 GMT
#1835
Fine.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 04 2015 20:38 GMT
#1837
You're the one siding with your top scumread for, like, no reason.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 04 2015 20:50 GMT
#1841
On August 05 2015 05:42 GlowingBear wrote:
It seems like a good lynch for the reasons I've brought.

+ I actually feel she is scummy tonewise


Wait, when did this happen?
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 04 2015 20:50 GMT
#1843
The lack of filters here is driving me mad, rofl. Such a terrible change.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 04 2015 20:56 GMT
#1849
Yeah well I'm keeping my vote on Bf.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 04 2015 20:57 GMT
#1850
On August 05 2015 05:53 GlowingBear wrote:
Obi, I've said that throghout the whole game

Why are you so annoyed that I am willing to lynch you? Will the game end if that happens?


I don't really recall this happening.
I'd love to check but I literally can't.

This is dumb.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 04 2015 20:58 GMT
#1853
Mafia also got a huge boost from everyone going nuts over, like, nothing.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 04 2015 20:59 GMT
#1855
I'm going to work now.

I'll try to check in but I might not be able to.
/shrug
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 04 2015 21:21 GMT
#1870
I don't recall ever defending ft.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 04 2015 22:18 GMT
#1907
Lame.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 05 2015 01:53 GMT
#1911
On August 05 2015 10:37 rsoultin wrote:
so the main question is...do people have a townread on scott for anything related to his actual play? or another reason to townread scott apart from ft's push on him or the green check?

i'll admit i've pretty much ignored him ever since the green check was proven valid


None whatsoever.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 05 2015 01:55 GMT
#1912
Theoretically I don't have reasons to townread Onegu either but the claim is far more solid in terms of "towniness" than whatever it is we have on scott.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 05 2015 03:30 GMT
#1915
On August 05 2015 12:17 scott31337 wrote:
I'm fine with you lynching me if you lynch rsoul in lylo and not waffle.

I am just a lonely VT.


What is this even.
Why do you think rso is mafia?
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 05 2015 04:44 GMT
#1918
On August 05 2015 13:39 rsoultin wrote:
that didn't escape me, but what would the scum motivation for that be, gb?

why should palmar care who we lynch, as scum, as long as it's not him?


I don't see how what you're saying reflects what Gb is saying. Elaborate?
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 05 2015 05:21 GMT
#1919
I'm going to bed.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 05 2015 13:01 GMT
#1930
On August 05 2015 15:57 Onegu wrote:
If I am alive with rsoul in lylo I will lynch her 100%. Until then we have another lynch and she isnt the lynch tomorrow. Obi/palmar is most likely... Will look into them if I had a filter but I dont....


What about scott?
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 05 2015 13:01 GMT
#1931
I don't really think scott is as town as you're saying he is Palmar.
Your read seems kinda reachy.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 05 2015 13:04 GMT
#1933
On August 05 2015 14:23 rsoultin wrote:
well...yeah it's kinda convenient for palmar to suddenly agree and lynch bf, but what would have happened if he didn't?

he wasn't getting lynched over bf at the time, so only

1. mislynch bf and look better for not being on another mislynch
2. mislynch someone else

i fail to see how his read change benefited him as scum?


I still don't really understand how this matters?
Like, what was his alternative? Bf was getting lynched.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 05 2015 13:18 GMT
#1942
On August 05 2015 22:15 Palmar wrote:
Oh shit, the good thing about not having filters is that the mods have to manually count posts to know if we're above the limit!

WE'RE FREE NOW BOYS, TIME TO SHITPOST


rofl
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 05 2015 13:26 GMT
#1945
Well
we had a cop.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 05 2015 13:28 GMT
#1947
Meh, I'm willing to reevaluate Onegu if he's still alive.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 05 2015 13:29 GMT
#1948
On August 05 2015 22:28 rsoultin wrote:
goon goon framer

might embolden an oneg but i think it was pretty early when he claimed?

that just gets solved tomorrow really...if there are any blues who haven't claimed, they claim the day phase before lylo. easy

aren't too many candidates left for that though given how many players have been nearly lynched this game


Do you think that there HAVE to be to blues in the setup?
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 05 2015 13:32 GMT
#1951
*Two blues.
The reason I'm so concerned is that I've seen mafia claim named vt early and coast the entire game off of it.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 05 2015 13:38 GMT
#1952
It's probably not even worth thinking about right now since it's likely to get resolved for me.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 05 2015 21:15 GMT
#1959
On August 06 2015 06:00 rsoultin wrote:
ye i just have this feeling that scum is in someone we're sleeping on

possibly gb but that's kinda doubtful given the d2 vote (by slam, lol ><) and my overall toneread on him

think it's time for scott and oneg to stop coasting, frankly ^^ everyone else looks fairly townie in gen

mostly scott


I agree.
I might prefer onegu though.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 05 2015 23:38 GMT
#1965
On August 06 2015 07:49 rsoultin wrote:
so ummm...anyone home?


At work and phone posting.
iirc that was the first time palmar dropped onegu' name as a possible suspect before he died.

I'll take another look at his reads to see if I can glean something when I get home.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 06 2015 01:36 GMT
#1975
Soooo what's up with this rso push?
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 06 2015 01:40 GMT
#1976
Haven't gleaned much from Palmar's reads; I think that the biggest aspect of what he said came from the fact that he died as soon as he considered the possibility of Onegu being mafia.
/shrug

I think we should consider him today tbh.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 06 2015 02:50 GMT
#1979
On August 06 2015 11:47 GlowingBear wrote:
The filter button robbery ticked me up. I can't do work without it

Obi, who do we lynch?


I literally just said Onegu.
It's RIGHT THERE.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 06 2015 15:54 GMT
#1994
Yeh I don't know why you think the kill only benefits me.
/shrug
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 06 2015 15:57 GMT
#1996
Sure np, just let me get on a computer.
It'll take a little bit though.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 06 2015 18:07 GMT
#1998
On August 07 2015 02:28 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2015 00:54 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Yeh I don't know why you think the kill only benefits me.
/shrug


Palmar townread rsoultin and scumread you. With him dead, there is no one else pushing you.


No he didn't.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 06 2015 18:48 GMT
#2000
On August 07 2015 03:33 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2015 03:07 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On August 07 2015 02:28 GlowingBear wrote:
On August 07 2015 00:54 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Yeh I don't know why you think the kill only benefits me.
/shrug


Palmar townread rsoultin and scumread you. With him dead, there is no one else pushing you.


No he didn't.


Yes he did


No, he didn't.
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ObiWanShinobi
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August 06 2015 20:49 GMT
#2006
On August 07 2015 05:09 GlowingBear wrote:
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On August 07 2015 03:48 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On August 07 2015 03:33 GlowingBear wrote:
On August 07 2015 03:07 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On August 07 2015 02:28 GlowingBear wrote:
On August 07 2015 00:54 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Yeh I don't know why you think the kill only benefits me.
/shrug


Palmar townread rsoultin and scumread you. With him dead, there is no one else pushing you.


No he didn't.


Yes he did


No, he didn't.


Yes he did


No. He didn't.
Why do you keep saying this?
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 06 2015 20:52 GMT
#2007
Anyways I'm not going to get to a computer after work so here's a shitty list to tide you over until then:

Town - rso, gb
Meh - scott
Scum - onegu probably

I keep flipflopping between onegu and scott but I do agree with rso that that's where we should be looking.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 06 2015 21:59 GMT
#2010
On August 07 2015 06:37 Onegu wrote:
Sigh I have been really busy these are the last games I sign up for a while. Anywho I am still named town. Obi you are barking up the wrong tree. I think I will vote obi here. Then if he isnt scum and if me and rsoul are alive tomorrow lynch her.


Why are you trying to convince me that you're town while you're voting me?
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ObiWanShinobi
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United States8089 Posts
August 07 2015 00:05 GMT
#2013
On August 07 2015 08:45 GlowingBear wrote:
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On August 07 2015 05:49 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On August 07 2015 05:09 GlowingBear wrote:
On August 07 2015 03:48 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On August 07 2015 03:33 GlowingBear wrote:
On August 07 2015 03:07 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On August 07 2015 02:28 GlowingBear wrote:
On August 07 2015 00:54 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Yeh I don't know why you think the kill only benefits me.
/shrug


Palmar townread rsoultin and scumread you. With him dead, there is no one else pushing you.


No he didn't.


Yes he did


No, he didn't.


Yes he did


No. He didn't.
Why do you keep saying this?


Because he did, obi. He called boxerfred town and voted you. He then said that he is willing to let rsoultin win the game if she is scum


He called me town too and voted Bf at eod.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 07 2015 03:46 GMT
#2025
On August 07 2015 11:49 GlowingBear wrote:
Yeah, I'm never lynching you.

I will keep my vote on Scott.

Wagons today will probably be between obi and scott only


Why is onegu town?
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 07 2015 03:56 GMT
#2027
On August 07 2015 12:55 rsoultin wrote:
didn't you have something for me, ows?


Still at work, unfortunately.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 07 2015 05:49 GMT
#2036
Alright, I'm home.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 07 2015 06:06 GMT
#2037
So here are some of my opinions:

I feel like Gb is town. Something Marv said in an obs qt a while back rang very true here - that town!Gb will generally try to get to the bottom of people scumreading him, while scum!Gb generally tries to sit back and takes defending himself way more seriously in regards to getting his story straight. I've recalled several posts Gb made where he went out and tried to "get to the bottom of things" and ruthlessly questioned some people who went after him.
There are some intangibles behind this read - tone, namely - but I'm fairly comfortable with this read.

I still feel like Rso is town. I don't think the scumreads on her make sense, and a lot of the time I find myself agreeing with what she says and I've liked several of the ideas she's presented.

What I don't like about Onegu is the fact that he was lynching Ft for the sake of lynching Ft - Palmar talked about this earlier when he actually went out and quoted some of the stuff I was talking about on day 1. I don't think his reason for jumping on the Ft wagon was particularly good, and aside from that he hasn't given a flying fuck about who he lynches or why, which reminds me of the time he claimed vigi and coasted all game.
He won't talk to me when I question him, and that bit about where he lines up a pair of lynches for no reason doesn't do him any favors, imo. I also think the nightkill somewhat implicates him - day 3 was the first time this game IIRC that Palmar talked about lynching him.
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ObiWanShinobi
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United States8089 Posts
August 07 2015 06:07 GMT
#2039
On August 07 2015 14:36 GlowingBear wrote:
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On August 07 2015 12:46 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On August 07 2015 11:49 GlowingBear wrote:
Yeah, I'm never lynching you.

I will keep my vote on Scott.

Wagons today will probably be between obi and scott only


Why is onegu town?


I've just said it. Because it doesn't make sense to park your vote on your team's framer while you are at risk of being checked by the cop at night


I voted FT.
You think I'm suspicious.
Onegu voted FT.
Onegu is not suspicious.

How does that work?
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 07 2015 06:08 GMT
#2040
On August 07 2015 14:14 scott31337 wrote:
So my work put in a new firewall that blocks TL (sadface) so I won't have any more posts until deadline - but I'll just say if you don't lynch rsoul when I die and we lose I will laugh hard at you. If we win in lylo, yayy! If we lose to any one else, I'll be happy with it.

Rsoul's mafia magic read is she doesn't leave epitaphs and she does as town. Has she? *bzzzzt*

But you are voting and believe this gf/framer/miller combo - when I flip VT don't derp in lylo.

Palmar said I'm town - he was town - hopeless had a green check on me - he flipped cop. rayn did too.. etc etc etc

Please re-read Bear, don't fail the town.


This is actually kinda shit tbh.
:/
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 07 2015 06:09 GMT
#2041
Gb, what makes you think a cop would check into the people who voted scum?
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ObiWanShinobi
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United States8089 Posts
August 07 2015 06:14 GMT
#2043
Okay - why are you voting me then?
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 07 2015 06:15 GMT
#2044
Actually, just go to sleep or something because I'm not dealing with you being drunk.
I can barely tolerate you when you're sober.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 07 2015 06:18 GMT
#2047
Onegu go to bed.
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ObiWanShinobi
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United States8089 Posts
August 07 2015 06:25 GMT
#2051
On August 07 2015 15:23 GlowingBear wrote:
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On August 07 2015 15:07 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On August 07 2015 14:36 GlowingBear wrote:
On August 07 2015 12:46 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On August 07 2015 11:49 GlowingBear wrote:
Yeah, I'm never lynching you.

I will keep my vote on Scott.

Wagons today will probably be between obi and scott only


Why is onegu town?


I've just said it. Because it doesn't make sense to park your vote on your team's framer while you are at risk of being checked by the cop at night


I voted FT.
You think I'm suspicious.
Onegu voted FT.
Onegu is not suspicious.

How does that work?


Yeah, but you were like the fifth vote? He was already probably getting lynched.
I don't know. I maybe getting double standards. But I've already seen Onegu getting out of his partners wagon just to hammer town, and I think he would have done that this time too. It's the framer. And there is no Roleblocker on the Mafia team


I don't really see how this holds much water.
How would Onegu have saved him, exactly?
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 07 2015 06:27 GMT
#2052
On August 07 2015 15:25 GlowingBear wrote:
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On August 07 2015 15:09 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Gb, what makes you think a cop would check into the people who voted scum?


Do you think Onegu thought this when he was on his partners wagon, obi? "I'm gonna kill my framer so the cop never checks me"


No lol.
I think the whole line of thinking behind this cop check business is weak.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 07 2015 06:31 GMT
#2056
On August 07 2015 15:29 GlowingBear wrote:
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On August 07 2015 15:25 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On August 07 2015 15:23 GlowingBear wrote:
On August 07 2015 15:07 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On August 07 2015 14:36 GlowingBear wrote:
On August 07 2015 12:46 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On August 07 2015 11:49 GlowingBear wrote:
Yeah, I'm never lynching you.

I will keep my vote on Scott.

Wagons today will probably be between obi and scott only


Why is onegu town?


I've just said it. Because it doesn't make sense to park your vote on your team's framer while you are at risk of being checked by the cop at night


I voted FT.
You think I'm suspicious.
Onegu voted FT.
Onegu is not suspicious.

How does that work?


Yeah, but you were like the fifth vote? He was already probably getting lynched.
I don't know. I maybe getting double standards. But I've already seen Onegu getting out of his partners wagon just to hammer town, and I think he would have done that this time too. It's the framer. And there is no Roleblocker on the Mafia team


I don't really see how this holds much water.
How would Onegu have saved him, exactly?


By hammering scott


I don't think this was a feasible thing for anyone involved.
Though I'll doublecheck the day 1 votes.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 07 2015 06:35 GMT
#2058
Kelsier switched at the last second which made it 5/5.
Not sure if that makes a switch more feasible.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 07 2015 06:37 GMT
#2059
Meh.
Maybe I just vote scott here.
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ObiWanShinobi
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August 07 2015 06:39 GMT
#2061
On August 07 2015 15:39 GlowingBear wrote:
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On July 26 2015 06:38 Snickers wrote:
clarity why the fuck is onegu on ur do not lynch list.




What's that supposed to mean?
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 07 2015 06:42 GMT
#2064
On August 07 2015 15:41 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2015 15:39 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On August 07 2015 15:39 GlowingBear wrote:
On July 26 2015 06:38 Snickers wrote:
clarity why the fuck is onegu on ur do not lynch list.




What's that supposed to mean?


That clarity could've been protecting his scum partner?


Right.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 07 2015 07:04 GMT
#2066
I'll sleep on it.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 07 2015 14:47 GMT
#2074
I'm awake.
I'm probably going to end up voting scott btw.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 07 2015 15:05 GMT
#2076
On August 07 2015 23:50 rsoultin wrote:
nh...okay. why him over oneg ows?


I keep trying to run through scenarios in my head where town!scott comes up with some half-baked scumread and leaves, and I can't think of one.
I think onegu is more likely to do that as town than scott.

It's not really that solid. I kind of still want both of them gone. :/
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 07 2015 15:07 GMT
#2077
On August 07 2015 23:50 rsoultin wrote:
nh...okay. why him over oneg ows?


What did you think of what I said about onegu?
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 07 2015 15:41 GMT
#2083
On August 08 2015 00:35 GlowingBear wrote:
Dear, from the flipped players. We know that firm tofu only made "cases" on town players. He reasoned his vote on Kelsier, he reasoned his vote on palmar. Hell, he preferred to townread hopeless to simply lynch Scott. That's when he saw he was going to get lynched. Would he start trying a counter wagon on a scum player or a town player?


Tofu was a framer and a known busser.
So yes.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 07 2015 15:44 GMT
#2084
That was to the whole "scum player" bit.

As for your whole bit on why I don't find you suspicious for being wrong, I just wrote a scumread out on someone who was on the Ft wagon. -.-
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 07 2015 16:03 GMT
#2088
rofl
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ObiWanShinobi
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United States8089 Posts
August 07 2015 16:10 GMT
#2091
On August 08 2015 01:08 GlowingBear wrote:
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On August 08 2015 01:04 rsoultin wrote:
On August 08 2015 00:35 GlowingBear wrote:
Dear, from the flipped players. We know that firm tofu only made "cases" on town players. He reasoned his vote on Kelsier, he reasoned his vote on palmar. Hell, he preferred to townread hopeless to simply lynch Scott. That's when he saw he was going to get lynched. Would he start trying a counter wagon on a scum player or a town player?


when scum looks like they're going to be lynched, generally trying to read into their reads is a bit of a shot in the dark

he was clearly willing to lynch clarity. the case on scott has consistently given me pause, i'll admit

but as i said...ows/oneg/you all have reasons for me to townread you guys, and the night kills strongly suggest one of oneg/scott because they would be two of the easiest "confirmed" town nks to deny town information. they're both alive

what i'm failing to find is a reason in scott's own play, separate of all these other considerations, that makes him look town at all

he fell off majorly since the greencheck on him...and not much in the way of bringing his own observations to the game...looks a lot more like treading water

in gaiden he had a lot of interesting reads/comments/observations that he kept bringing forward that actually showed an interest in the game and solving it


Scott is clearly not fighting his lynch for someone who is the last Mafia.


Scott and Tofu are not the same person.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 07 2015 17:08 GMT
#2095
On August 08 2015 01:52 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2015 01:10 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On August 08 2015 01:08 GlowingBear wrote:
On August 08 2015 01:04 rsoultin wrote:
On August 08 2015 00:35 GlowingBear wrote:
Dear, from the flipped players. We know that firm tofu only made "cases" on town players. He reasoned his vote on Kelsier, he reasoned his vote on palmar. Hell, he preferred to townread hopeless to simply lynch Scott. That's when he saw he was going to get lynched. Would he start trying a counter wagon on a scum player or a town player?


when scum looks like they're going to be lynched, generally trying to read into their reads is a bit of a shot in the dark

he was clearly willing to lynch clarity. the case on scott has consistently given me pause, i'll admit

but as i said...ows/oneg/you all have reasons for me to townread you guys, and the night kills strongly suggest one of oneg/scott because they would be two of the easiest "confirmed" town nks to deny town information. they're both alive

what i'm failing to find is a reason in scott's own play, separate of all these other considerations, that makes him look town at all

he fell off majorly since the greencheck on him...and not much in the way of bringing his own observations to the game...looks a lot more like treading water

in gaiden he had a lot of interesting reads/comments/observations that he kept bringing forward that actually showed an interest in the game and solving it



Scott is clearly not fighting his lynch for someone who is the last Mafia.


Scott and Tofu are not the same person.


?

I meant scott clearly isn't fighting his own lynch when a mislynch today is crucial for Mafia win con


I understand what you're saying.
I'm saying that what you're saying isn't as relevant as you're saying it is.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 07 2015 18:56 GMT
#2113
Going to work in 30 minutes, will be phoneposting if I have time.
Still think Gb should put more thought into Onegu.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 07 2015 20:01 GMT
#2118
On August 08 2015 04:53 GlowingBear wrote:
Obi I find weird that you're voting scott instead of actually convincing us Onegu is a better lynch


/shrug
I explained why and you wrote it off because "cop check."

Honestly I'm just trying to see if there's a reasonable alternative to Scott and Onegu is the other lynch I could think of.

Still don't really want to lynch you or rso tbh and I think that you trying to look at us over onegu is kinda lame.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 07 2015 20:27 GMT
#2120
Well
I said Scott was a better lynch.
Gb is talking about other possible lynches.
I talked about onegu.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 07 2015 20:34 GMT
#2121
Where is onegu btw?
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 07 2015 20:44 GMT
#2124
On August 08 2015 05:38 rsoultin wrote:
oh you mean you explained why you're voting scott and gb wrote it off?

but he's lynching scott?

meh i'm just generally confused lol -_-


I'm talking about the fact that gb is talking about other lynches, that's it. I might have misspoke but w/e.

Honestly there's a good chance the game just ends today.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 07 2015 21:58 GMT
#2131
Moment of truth I guess.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 07 2015 22:01 GMT
#2136
rofl
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 08 2015 18:28 GMT
#2148
On August 09 2015 02:58 GlowingBear wrote:
It's Onegu tomorrow, no one else
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 08 2015 18:30 GMT
#2149
On August 09 2015 03:12 rsoultin wrote:
more seriously though, last post, i promise

i really think his saying he wants to lynch both scott and ft basically negates all the town cred i gave him for not going for a clar lynch. you start piling votes up on clar, much more likely one of the two is going to get lynched. clar was afk but if he hadn't been, the two of them lynching scott would have been enough to save ft quite easily

and obviously he argued against the slam lynch

whoever is in lylo should take that into account


I don't really understand this.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 08 2015 18:43 GMT
#2151
On August 09 2015 03:41 rsoultin wrote:
what's not to understand?

there are a limited number of votes

if you can keep votes (and let's be honest, tunneled rayn is tunneled) between one partner and a townie rather than both partners it's objectively better

i'm not saying it makes you scum. i'm saying it makes my "ironclad" townread on you not very ironclad at all

why have you been hard-defending me all game obi?


I don't understand how that's "objectively better," nor do I understand how that relates to my alignment.

I've been hard-defending you because I thought you were town and that the scumreads on you were nonsensical and bad.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 08 2015 18:44 GMT
#2152
Like.
When has "mafia tone" ever outweighed solid analysis and trying to figure the game out?
How does that outweigh someone actually writing cases and getting stuff done?

I don't, haven't, and won't think that it does.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 08 2015 18:52 GMT
#2154
On August 09 2015 03:45 rsoultin wrote:
why did you think i was town?

i think it's obvious but given how many players clearly don't agree...why are you so sure? what makes me town? i just fooled you pretty hard in gaiden

as to your alignment, it's my usual rack and stack

gb top town. if he's scum this game i'm horrible, even more horrible than i've already been lol ><

and i explained why i believe oneg is town. do you disagree with any of it?


I literally just explained it: your cases and activity have been strong and the case against you was bad.
I don't think too much of Gaiden because I stopped having fun with that game and basically stopped paying attention halfway through just because of the activity demands of the game, and even then I was under tremendous pressure from Hf which always fucks me up.

Ofc I disagree with onegu being town. Just because he can be absolutely shit as town doesn't mean that he can't do fuck all as mafia - claiming is basically the lynchpin of his play regardless of alignment and it's nowhere near unheard of for town to have a minimum in regards to roles.
I finished a game where he did literally ALL of the things you said as mafia.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 08 2015 18:58 GMT
#2156
I think it was Generic Boring, last one in my list.

iirc, he DID switch to save shockeyy but I still think there are enough differences between this game and that one to say "bussing is a feasible thing" and shouldn't be off the table, what with a town this strong and active compared to that one.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 08 2015 19:09 GMT
#2158
On August 09 2015 04:05 rsoultin wrote:
hmmm...looking through it i've got an itch to scratch related to ellipses

really random thing to key in on but there was excessive use in that game and i noticed that some seemed off in this one. will have to dive more games blah lol ><

the having more reads thing in his scum game still holds true in that one though, obi, unless he's made a ton of reads this one that i just haven't noticed in the midst of everything else


I don't really recall him making many reads in that game either but I don't have TL+.
I might have to buy it to double check.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 08 2015 19:10 GMT
#2160
Yeh.
:/

I don't understand why you're so obsessed with being silent, btw.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 08 2015 19:15 GMT
#2162
On August 09 2015 04:13 rsoultin wrote:
well...keeping scum in the dark as to which kill is the best strategic kill?

not sure how effective it is anyway though lol ><


Yeah, that doesn't work ever.
Scum will just go back and look at the dayphase and shoot someone based on that.
It's useless.

Robik tried it in my first newbie game on the site and everyone in dead chat called him out on it.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 08 2015 19:35 GMT
#2164
D:
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 08 2015 22:46 GMT
#2174
Except
I voted ft.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 08 2015 22:47 GMT
#2175
W/e I'll deal with this shit when I get home.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 09 2015 01:13 GMT
#2180
Just got home.
I'll pay attention to this game in a bit but I'm exhausted atm.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 09 2015 04:27 GMT
#2181
Screw it, I'm tired and I have tomorrow off.
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ObiWanShinobi
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United States8089 Posts
August 09 2015 13:57 GMT
#2186
On August 09 2015 22:39 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2015 02:18 rsoultin wrote:
On July 30 2015 06:50 rsoultin wrote:
70/80

ye can we still lynch slam?

the true yolo! \o/


i rest my town case

if y'all lynch me this game...i will put this in my sig. to shame you all eternally for being awful


^

okay oneg. i know you're not a moron and you can figure this out. voting for me is suicide if you're scum so i don't think you are @.@

we can talk about ft as much as you want, talk about trains on two scum with one of them afk and the significance of what each player did, but there's only one player here who started shenanigans on slam who had been blue read by snickers, when the vote was between two players who are now confirmed town

i'm not going to defend myself any further than that. i can never be scum this game

##vote OWS


How exactly is it suicide?
Also, I am awake.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 09 2015 14:01 GMT
#2188
On August 09 2015 22:58 rsoultin wrote:
lol unless you're going to flip your read on me last minute ows? think it's pretty obvious


Again, I don't see how this makes him anything.
How does that relate to his alignment?
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 09 2015 14:12 GMT
#2190
I don't get it.
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ObiWanShinobi
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United States8089 Posts
August 09 2015 14:28 GMT
#2192
On August 09 2015 23:19 rsoultin wrote:
well it could be wifomy, but which of us is more likely to vote for someone other than oneg? -shrugs- he needs a mislynch as scum, yet he's looking through things and voting for me...not auto-voting for me like "well i said that i'd lynch rsoul in lylo so i'm just gonna do that and afk" but actually doing shit and voting for me based on...d1 i think lol >< but w/e


Yeah, but...He's still voting you.
So the entire concept is meaningless.
-.-
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ObiWanShinobi
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August 09 2015 14:46 GMT
#2194
My argument is that your read is evolving for poor reasoning.
For who that means what is still up for debate.
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ObiWanShinobi
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August 09 2015 15:13 GMT
#2197
Well.
You're townreading him for not playing to survive. Before I go off on my tangent here, confirm that this is the basis of your read?
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ObiWanShinobi
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August 09 2015 15:14 GMT
#2198
Oop, big post. Sec.
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August 09 2015 15:15 GMT
#2199
Haven't we been arguing that onegu is also town because he didn't switch?
Why doesn't that mean anything for him?
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August 09 2015 15:31 GMT
#2203
On August 10 2015 00:26 rsoultin wrote:
also, as a lovely bonus since you want to say it applies to both of you >>

i just clearly demonstrated going through your filter that you would have voted for scott. that means that onegu actually could have saved ft if he was scum and you were town by shifting his vote there. he wasn't backed into the same corner



Except I wouldn't have:

On July 27 2015 06:42 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Yeah we don't have the people to switch to scott.
Even then I still want to lynch FT.

Let's go with that.


:/
I have no idea where this "you would totally switch" narrative is coming from.
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ObiWanShinobi
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August 09 2015 15:36 GMT
#2204
As for not playing to survive - since when has scum!Oneg played to survive? I even showed you that game: he played recklessly and confidently, which isn't consistent with "not playing to survive." Still not outside his wheelhouse, but it still fits into how you're reading him as town.

:/
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August 09 2015 16:00 GMT
#2208
On August 10 2015 00:50 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2015 00:31 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On August 10 2015 00:26 rsoultin wrote:
also, as a lovely bonus since you want to say it applies to both of you >>

i just clearly demonstrated going through your filter that you would have voted for scott. that means that onegu actually could have saved ft if he was scum and you were town by shifting his vote there. he wasn't backed into the same corner



Except I wouldn't have:

On July 27 2015 06:42 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Yeah we don't have the people to switch to scott.
Even then I still want to lynch FT.

Let's go with that.


:/
I have no idea where this "you would totally switch" narrative is coming from.


as scum you would have already determined that you couldn't save scott by the time you wrote that post. it was already in the post! this is "evidence"?

in your posts preceding that you clearly were fine with either lynch -shrugs-

and yes

of course oneg, in lylo, as the last scum, plays to survive because that's how he wins. you're not this daft

lol so when are you going to find a way to try to say i'm scum and vote for me, ows? i've been waaaaaaiting ^^


Yes, it is "evidence" that I wanted to lynch FT over scott. You saying I'm fine with either lynch and then saying that I would have switched when I said I wouldn't switch is literally the exact opposite of what you're saying.

Your bit on calling onegu town for not playing to survive is still a weak narrative when faced with conclusive evidence that shows that he won't play EXACTLY the way you're saying he will as scum.
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August 09 2015 17:32 GMT
#2212
On August 10 2015 02:28 Onegu wrote:
That being said Obi trying to look at only one of my previous scum games and not the ones where I made it to lylo as scum and trying to control the narrative that way is really weird...


It's the only time I've had experience with you playing scum.
Which ones should I look at to contest that?
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August 09 2015 17:35 GMT
#2213
Furthermore, that's not really conducive to the point I was making.
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August 09 2015 18:04 GMT
#2215
Still talking about me trying to lynch scott while I was hardpushing Ft?
Cute.
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ObiWanShinobi
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August 09 2015 18:06 GMT
#2217
Onegu, talk to me.
What did you think of what I said about rso saying you don't play recklessly as scum? All you commented on was the fact that I looked at a single scumgame of yours, which kind of wasn't the point of what I was saying.
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August 09 2015 18:08 GMT
#2218
On August 10 2015 03:06 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2015 00:13 rsoultin wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On July 25 2015 16:01 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Last thought before bed:
I want to know why scott gave ksc posts + what his read on ksc is now.

He had this whole bit on not liking ksc's entrance, ksc came back with "you can't find me scummy if you don't find anyone else scummy" (which makes no sense at all) and then scott immediately left him alone and gave him posts.
Made no sense at all.


On July 25 2015 22:51 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I don't really think I've misrep'd kelsier at all? That's how it read to me.
/shrug
I'm not even trying to say I have an issue with kelsier. I've liked a lot of his questioning thus far. It's scott I didn't like, because I didn't understand how his read evolved.


On July 26 2015 13:07 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2015 12:55 Hopeless1der wrote:
On July 26 2015 12:45 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Hope, I don't understand the point of your scott case?
Elaborate for me?

Can I just say "waffle" and leave it at that?

@GB re kelsier

I see a number of somewhat explained town reads in his filter but little to no scum reads and vague "I'd lynch this guy...maybe" vibes. Not feeling great about kelsier but I would really want to lynch him today.


Iuno.
Like.
I know what you're saying and I also want to lynch scott.

I was kind of aware of the idea behind what you were saying but I felt like there was something I was missing from your post.
Like in hindsight it was kind of obvious but still.


On July 27 2015 00:48 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On phone.
Current lynch list: scott. Probably ft.
Also hi.


On July 27 2015 02:09 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Anyways I'm going to vote FT.

My biggest issue with him was that he came up with all of these reasons to vote Palmar, but disappeared after throwing his vote down. Not only did it feel very token, but he did so at a time where the VC looked really terrible in terms of vote spread.

I'm also willing to switch to scott but I don't know how much more I can say about him that hasn't already been done to death.


On July 27 2015 04:23 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2015 04:17 KelsierSC wrote:
obi can you tell me why you think ft is the better lynch over scott? What changed your mind?


I said I wanted to lynch both of them.


On July 27 2015 04:31 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2015 04:30 KelsierSC wrote:
On July 27 2015 04:23 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On July 27 2015 04:17 KelsierSC wrote:
obi can you tell me why you think ft is the better lynch over scott? What changed your mind?


I said I wanted to lynch both of them.


I know, it was just scott was scum and ft was a "probably" so just curious why you voted that way.


/shrug
I don't actually have much of a preference between the two.

Also I just looked into clarity's filter and, yeah, it's kinda garbage.


On July 27 2015 06:03 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2015 06:00 rsoultin wrote:
lol

ye i still think clarity is more likely to flip scum
i'll lynch ft over scott

look, obi...yeah he's afkish

but he literally comes in without a read on rayn, says he'll sheep him (yes it can be assumed he's townreading rayn there cause otherwise it makes no fucking sense) and jumps on the hopeless wagon who, if i recall, was the only real non-retarded push at the time. sheeping implies he has no read on the guy yet he starts "championing" this push on hopeless while snickers is tunneling me which felt really off...like seriously if hopeless ever flips scum it's highly likely clar is scum for that alone

then he comes back in with that big post on why he thinks hopeless is scum (which essentially is really no different from what he first said, just that hopeless' first post felt "forced") like, if the guy isn't going to be around today, you really think he puts in NO WORK, sheeps someone who he may or may not have even have had a townread on, then pretends his read on hopeless was strong by parroting what he said in the first place, which was essentially parroting what RAYN said in the first place?

we all just got out of a game with clarity. you really think this is his town game? i don't


I'm not arguing against a Clarity lynch.
I just feel very confident in my FT read.


On July 27 2015 06:15 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Scott, you had clarity as mafia like all game.
How did he become town and then mafia again?


On July 27 2015 06:42 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Yeah we don't have the people to switch to scott.
Even then I still want to lynch FT.

Let's go with that.


On July 27 2015 06:56 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2015 06:53 rsoultin wrote:
tbh scott disappearing bothers me a lot more than his saying clar could be scum, too -_-


He's been doing this all game lmfao.



okay, these are all the mentions of scott d1 in ows' filter, and this is what had me going i might be wrong on obi last night (i think i included the relevant posts on tofu as well? but probably best just to reread the pages leading up to the lynch to get the full context in case i missed anything)

here it's clear that he's more than willing to lynch scott, ye?

if you look at the voting from d1, there was a strong train on ft

some key points:
- clarity was afk; there was going to be no help from that quarter, and there's a distinct possibility that they didn't know he'd be afk all day like that
- palmar was never voting scott
- i'd already said i'd vote ft over scott
- snickers was afk

most of the other players showed no interest in voting scott over ft, either, unless they were already on the scott wagon

i'm not saying this makes ows scum, but i am saying that by EoD he couldn't switch to scott even if he wanted to, and the fact that he kept bringing scott up makes it likely that he would have if he were scum...if it was actually an option to save ft

but given the votes and the opinions of those voting, it wasn't


call me scum ows ^^

the posts are in the spoiler, every time you mentioned scott d1


You're doing an excellent job of pissing me off.
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ObiWanShinobi
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August 09 2015 18:10 GMT
#2219
I'm taking a break.
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ObiWanShinobi
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August 09 2015 20:37 GMT
#2223
Currently in the middle of a reread, fyi.
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August 09 2015 21:42 GMT
#2226
On August 10 2015 06:16 Onegu wrote:
Im not going to reread. Yeah not going to happen...


It's pretty arduous.
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ObiWanShinobi
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August 09 2015 22:31 GMT
#2228
Rso can you do me a favor and do some self-evaluation for me?
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August 09 2015 22:35 GMT
#2230
Meh, nevermind.
I was going to ask for some self-meta but that's probably going to be useless.
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August 09 2015 22:50 GMT
#2231
On August 10 2015 07:27 rsoultin wrote:
well, oneg, i get that you'd like to be the hero who first lynched scum!rsoul

that's not what's happening this game, though

explain to me what my scum motivation was in slam's lynch? or even in the d1 lynch? tell me straight how you can even begin to rationalize i'm scum here

we can win this if you're willing to set aside your obstinance lol >< otherwise...eh, i kinda deserve getting mislynched in lylo for being so horrible and misleading town 3 lynches in a row. would rather win, though. shame to throw this game away after lynching scum d1 and d2


I thought he already explained this.
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ObiWanShinobi
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August 09 2015 22:54 GMT
#2233
Uh huh.
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#2235
On August 10 2015 12:01 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2015 07:27 rsoultin wrote:
well, oneg, i get that you'd like to be the hero who first lynched scum!rsoul

that's not what's happening this game, though

explain to me what my scum motivation was in slam's lynch? or even in the d1 lynch? tell me straight how you can even begin to rationalize i'm scum here

we can win this if you're willing to set aside your obstinance lol >< otherwise...eh, i kinda deserve getting mislynched in lylo for being so horrible and misleading town 3 lynches in a row. would rather win, though. shame to throw this game away after lynching scum d1 and d2



Bus someone who was going to die anyway...

Also you shouldnt be alive over palmar... Like if you are town you just shouldnt as he was pushing for your and my lynch. Why does scum obi shoot him there. And like if I am scum I shoot you %1000 just so I can spoil you that I shot you... So like it doesnt make sense...


Bleh, this is a good post.
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ObiWanShinobi
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August 10 2015 03:06 GMT
#2236
Onegu, if you were mafia, who would you have voted on day 1?
Serious question.
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ObiWanShinobi
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August 10 2015 03:18 GMT
#2239
On August 10 2015 12:16 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2015 12:06 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Onegu, if you were mafia, who would you have voted on day 1?
Serious question.


worthless question

wifom question

do something productive

you're not town ^^ at the very least i can be right when onegu lynches me cause he's a 'tard ^^


It's literally not worthless at all.
Go away.
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August 10 2015 04:02 GMT
#2244
On August 10 2015 12:23 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2015 06:10 Palmar wrote:
I'm reading the run up to day 1 (with no filters I guess reading parts of the game makes some sort of sense).

OWS is on the FT wagon all the time but seems to be willing to switch to scott. He even defends FT at some point (but he still just keeps his vote on him).

I don't think it's particularly scummy by OWS but meh.

rsoultin does simply sound like she's a lot more invested in the game at that point than OWS. Boxerfred also says some shit that might even be sort of scummy, but he also sounded really townie when under pressure

I still think we should vote OWS.


^

you wanted your reason, oneg

Show nested quote +
On August 05 2015 06:34 Palmar wrote:
I'm almost okay with losing to rsoultin if she's mafia.


^

palmar was going to lynch me? lol ><

Show nested quote +
On August 05 2015 22:22 Palmar wrote:
Scott firstpost analysis

On July 25 2015 07:01 scott31337 wrote:
FIRST
CONFTOWN


On July 25 2015 07:02 scott31337 wrote:
GB are you my friend?


First player to post in the game. Caps indicate excitement. Knowing there's only 1 mafia left he and GB cannot be a team so the name seems to be picked at random. Feels like a townie entrance.

On July 25 2015 07:15 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Bleep bloop.

Bad first post. Not saying anything, almost posting just to post. Way scummier than scott.


On July 25 2015 07:22 Onegu wrote:
Hard claiming confirmed town


On July 25 2015 07:24 Onegu wrote:
As in I am Named town


Claim, very hard to read tone into such a factual post. Probably going to be town because we have no other blue roles.

On July 25 2015 07:25 rsoultin wrote:
beautiful warm day
birds chirping
bugs chirring
the chlorine didn't burn out my eyes

but guys, guys, guys...

rayn is scuuum ^^


Bunch of useless stuff in there that's kinda scummy. I also dislike the extra "uu" in scum. feels off tonewise, as if intended to be a joke. Her next post continues the same theme "I'm totally serious rayn is mafia he scumslipped" in what feels a very sarcastic manner.

On July 25 2015 07:46 GlowingBear wrote:
On July 25 2015 07:02 scott31337 wrote:
GB are you my friend?


I'M TOWN, BIATCH!


Extra "A" in bitch seems ott. I don't know, this one is null to me.


meh that was useless.

rsoultin/gb/ows was the pool of candidates anyway.

Unless Onegu just lucked out and we have no blues in the game he decided to claim one.


^ palmar's last reads




so basically you're telling me that i decided to kill palmar not when he was hyper tunneling me and i had ksc pocketed prettily if i were scum, but when he stopped fucking tunneling me and was working with me on the game?!

you know who does benefit? the guy palmar was talking about lynching. i was still defending ows. why wouldn't ows kill palmar over me as scum in that situation

i get you're not used to playing without filters, oneg, but this is exactly why people read the game

then they actually have a sense for what was happening during each phase -_-


Gb brought up the same thing and I said the same thing to him:
Palmar changed his read on me and was basically townreading me by the time of his death.

So good job.
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ObiWanShinobi
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August 10 2015 04:04 GMT
#2246
Anyhoezels. I am going to bed.
I'm leaning towards voting rso, will sleep on it.

Onegu, I hope you'll talk to me at some point about things because I don't really like the fact that you're not engaging me but I think it's more likely you're town than rso is at this point. Deadline IS tomorrow.

Gn.
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August 10 2015 04:04 GMT
#2247
On August 10 2015 13:03 rsoultin wrote:
nope ^^ i was just in his filter


You are wrong.
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ObiWanShinobi
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August 10 2015 04:07 GMT
#2251
On August 10 2015 13:05 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2015 06:16 Palmar wrote:
I've changed my mind again now I want to lynch BF


okay ye this was about you and doesn't show up in a ctrl+f

but his last reads were literally his last post and this was obvious before bf flipped scum

it doesn't negate that you were keeping your options open with scott

-shrugs-

you ever going to decide who is scum, ows? do anything at all productive in lylo? do you even care who scum is? certainly doesn't seem like it


No, you're actually missing the point completely where Palmar said my decision to vote Ft for the correct reasons was actually towny.
I'm relatively certain you had a conversation about it.
Your narrative on scott is still garbage.
I also just said I wanted to vote you.

I can feel you trying to make this work with all of your might, but it's just not coming together. T.T
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August 10 2015 04:10 GMT
#2253
On August 10 2015 13:08 rsoultin wrote:
lol >> i knew he'd try to weasel his way into scumreading me

but here he is waiting for you to bring a point, sheeping it and pretending his read changed for that one post. yeah, sure

come on oneg you can't be blind to this -_- why do i not just happily vote you with obi if i'm scum?

easy win, i laugh at you trying to lynch me


Because he wasn't voting me after he realized that I was the one who voted FT.
Is this for real?
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August 10 2015 04:12 GMT
#2257
On August 10 2015 13:10 Onegu wrote:
@obi really depends on if I had a scum role or not... Like I think I would push clarity or maybe Scott. If I was a goon and it was goon/goon/framer I def try to not lose my framer.... If I am gf I think I am a bit more ok bussing ft...


Well
Why wouldn't scum!you have voted Ft in that scenario?
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ObiWanShinobi
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August 10 2015 04:16 GMT
#2261
Much rhetoric.
Many townie.
Wowe.
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August 10 2015 04:18 GMT
#2262
On August 10 2015 13:15 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2015 13:12 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On August 10 2015 13:10 Onegu wrote:
@obi really depends on if I had a scum role or not... Like I think I would push clarity or maybe Scott. If I was a goon and it was goon/goon/framer I def try to not lose my framer.... If I am gf I think I am a bit more ok bussing ft...


Well
Why wouldn't scum!you have voted Ft in that scenario?



I might have if I was GF... But dunno still think I might try to save active scum over inactive scum. I still get cred for lynching scum there


Theoretically, this makes sense.
Why does Gf take so much priority in your analysis?
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August 10 2015 04:24 GMT
#2266
On August 10 2015 13:20 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2015 13:18 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On August 10 2015 13:15 Onegu wrote:
On August 10 2015 13:12 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On August 10 2015 13:10 Onegu wrote:
@obi really depends on if I had a scum role or not... Like I think I would push clarity or maybe Scott. If I was a goon and it was goon/goon/framer I def try to not lose my framer.... If I am gf I think I am a bit more ok bussing ft...


Well
Why wouldn't scum!you have voted Ft in that scenario?



I might have if I was GF... But dunno still think I might try to save active scum over inactive scum. I still get cred for lynching scum there


Theoretically, this makes sense.
Why does Gf take so much priority in your analysis?



Because if it is goon/goon/framer you have no defense against a cop who I would guess was in the game. Because I doubt HtS would run a all vanilla setup since HF just did and slams game was going to be all vanilla


Okay, I suppose.
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ObiWanShinobi
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August 10 2015 04:25 GMT
#2267
Honestly I looked back and I really don't see how the clarity lynch is as pivotal in terms of towniness as rso is making it out to be.
Hrm.
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ObiWanShinobi
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August 10 2015 04:26 GMT
#2268
I'll go reread that lynch.
This is gonna be a pain without filters.
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August 10 2015 04:38 GMT
#2269
Her scumread on slam disappeared because she wanted to read him properly.
Then she voted him again.
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August 10 2015 04:39 GMT
#2270
Honestly the more I think about it, the more I realize that the wagon on Ft was probably pure just based on how valuable Ft actually was compared to the rest of the scumteam.
/shrug
Maybe I'm just making this more complicated that it needs to be.
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ObiWanShinobi
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August 10 2015 04:40 GMT
#2271
Onegu are you still here?
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August 10 2015 04:51 GMT
#2272
...Onegu?
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August 10 2015 05:41 GMT
#2274
I think I'm gonna vote rso.
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ObiWanShinobi
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August 10 2015 06:01 GMT
#2276
Considering that what you just quoted is part of the reason that I don't trust you any more, then sure.
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ObiWanShinobi
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August 10 2015 06:03 GMT
#2278
Anyways, I'm going to bed for realsies now because 2 am.
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August 10 2015 17:46 GMT
#2291
I'm here. Catching up.
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August 10 2015 17:49 GMT
#2294
On August 11 2015 02:46 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2015 02:46 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I'm here. Catching up.


uh huh


Gotta keep reaching for something to push, don't you?
-.-
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ObiWanShinobi
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August 10 2015 17:53 GMT
#2296
On August 10 2015 15:06 rsoultin wrote:
lol you don't have one

you can't explain

it's so obvious it's painful


lol I love how I go to sleep and you try to use that as an excuse to sell a scumtell on me.
Adorable.
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August 10 2015 17:54 GMT
#2297
On August 11 2015 02:52 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2015 02:49 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On August 11 2015 02:46 rsoultin wrote:
On August 11 2015 02:46 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I'm here. Catching up.


uh huh


Gotta keep reaching for something to push, don't you?
-.-


still not a scumread ^^

you can try to discredit me but you'd probably do better actually bringing "evidence" that i'm scum

a little friendly advice

your timing looks opportunistic, fyi

like if you're actually town here which i highly doubt you are there's no way this behavior will ever convince me you're town, especially with your non-opinions, non-pushes, non-intelligent comments, lack of interest


Another nice bundle of buzzwords.
Gosh.
It's almost like you have no interest in understanding the situation and you're just looking to push your final mislynch.
\o/
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 10 2015 17:56 GMT
#2301
On August 11 2015 02:54 rsoultin wrote:
shouldn't you be happy ows? lol ^^ you're lynching "scum"

if my points are really as empty as you're trying to project, shouldn't you be happy that you've got scum pinned, oneg is voting me and unlikely to change his mind

instead you look put out

it's that my points are actually valid, isn't it? lol


No. They aren't.
I've explained my reads between scott/ft and you've completely ignored the fact that Palmar even said that my ideas on voting Ft were towny and that I decided not to switch to scott.

It's hilarious, honestly.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 10 2015 17:57 GMT
#2302
On August 11 2015 02:55 rsoultin wrote:
what "situation" are you referring to?

i have real points while you talk about nothing concrete


I've talked about fucking everything.
I even pointed out the parts where you were wrong before and you went "LOLNOPE" and kept pushing me.

What a joke.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 10 2015 18:02 GMT
#2305
On August 11 2015 02:58 rsoultin wrote:
that is you saying why you're "town"

i've proven that you couldn't save ft if you were scum ^^

this is not you saying why i'm scum or why oneg is town

why

are

you

scumreading

your

top

town?


Nope. I literally just explained why:

Overuse of buzzwords
Willful misrepresentation
Abnormal development of reads

Your reasoning here is amazingly reachy and just doesn't fit a town persona. I can't see this line of thinking coming from a town!rso. I just can't.

The only conclusion I can draw here is that you're scum.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 10 2015 18:02 GMT
#2306
On August 11 2015 03:01 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2015 02:56 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On August 11 2015 02:54 rsoultin wrote:
shouldn't you be happy ows? lol ^^ you're lynching "scum"

if my points are really as empty as you're trying to project, shouldn't you be happy that you've got scum pinned, oneg is voting me and unlikely to change his mind

instead you look put out

it's that my points are actually valid, isn't it? lol


No. They aren't.
I've explained my reads between scott/ft and you've completely ignored the fact that Palmar even said that my ideas on voting Ft were towny and that I decided not to switch to scott.

It's hilarious, honestly.


means nothing

switch to scott, ft still gets lynched, which you definitely knew given your post so you can't even begin to claim otherwise

one "townie" thought does not make someone town


Good to know that applied all game just so you could change it at the most convenient moment.
Hue.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 10 2015 18:09 GMT
#2309
On August 11 2015 03:06 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2015 03:02 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On August 11 2015 02:58 rsoultin wrote:
that is you saying why you're "town"

i've proven that you couldn't save ft if you were scum ^^

this is not you saying why i'm scum or why oneg is town

why

are

you

scumreading

your

top

town?


Nope. I literally just explained why:

Overuse of buzzwords
Willful misrepresentation
Abnormal development of reads

Your reasoning here is amazingly reachy and just doesn't fit a town persona. I can't see this line of thinking coming from a town!rso. I just can't.

The only conclusion I can draw here is that you're scum.


so

nothing
nothing (it's not misrepresentation if it's true, now is it?)
and...nothing, because you haven't shown how they're abnormal at all

lol this is awful as it gets

yeah, ows is scum

no worries. i won't try to convince you you're scum any longer

yes, i reevaluated. you could actually see me doing it the night phase before the day started. it's unfortunate it took me this long to catch you and that i hard-defended you for so long, but it is what it is -shrugs-

and frankly, it's hypocritical anyway for you to say, because you were townreading me all game. at least i have a legitimate reason to doubt you other than

buzzwords and "abnormal" reads


Except you don't.
It's been explained to you repeatedly and you've ignored all of it.

Nice try.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 10 2015 18:12 GMT
#2311
On August 11 2015 03:10 rsoultin wrote:
could you

or could you not

have saved ft by voting scott d1?


It's completely irrelevant because I didn't want to.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 10 2015 18:17 GMT
#2313
On August 11 2015 03:14 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2015 03:12 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On August 11 2015 03:10 rsoultin wrote:
could you

or could you not

have saved ft by voting scott d1?


It's completely irrelevant because I didn't want to.


lol ><

what's completely irrelevant is suspected scum claiming he did or did not wish to vote scott

up until (and onegu will see this when he's reviewing the filters so you're fucked) you admitted that your vote couldn't save scott, you were saying you were willing to lynch both

could you

or could you not

have saved ft by voting scott d1?

you don't want to answer because you know that you couldn't have ^^


It doesn't matter because I didn't want to. It doesn't matter because I didn't want to. It doesn't matter because I didn't want to. It doesn't matter because I didn't want to. It doesn't matter because I didn't want to. It doesn't matter because I didn't want to. It doesn't matter because I didn't want to. It doesn't matter because I didn't want to. It doesn't matter because I didn't want to. It doesn't matter because I didn't want to. It doesn't matter because I didn't want to. It doesn't matter because I didn't want to. It doesn't matter because I didn't want to. It doesn't matter because I didn't want to. It doesn't matter because I didn't want to. It doesn't matter because I didn't want to. It doesn't matter because I didn't want to. It doesn't matter because I didn't want to. It doesn't matter because I didn't want to.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 10 2015 18:18 GMT
#2314
I feel like I'm going insane.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 10 2015 18:22 GMT
#2316
I don't even understand the point you're trying to make anymore.
Whatever.
Doubtful that I'm moving my vote.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 10 2015 18:30 GMT
#2318
And btw, I double checked and the answer is yes:
Kelsier was willing to switch to scott.

If I wanted to switch to scott, I tell kelsier to switch with me. Palmar can switch at the last second but scott hits more votes first and gets lynched.

Have fun playing heroes.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 10 2015 18:33 GMT
#2321
On August 11 2015 03:31 rsoultin wrote:
nope

he got cold feet

oneg can check that too

SHWANG!

caught ^^


Of course me not talking to him about switching didn't help anything.
No sir.

And definitely not why he tried to switch at the last possible second.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 10 2015 18:39 GMT
#2324
On August 11 2015 03:38 rsoultin wrote:
both palmar and i said we'd lynch ft over scott

palmar's move was predictable. i should have moved if i'd been more up on the vote count

ksc clearly preferred tofu to scott anyway until right before eod

you still couldn't save ft

zzzz


Yeah I could have.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 10 2015 18:40 GMT
#2326
On August 11 2015 03:36 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2015 07:00 KelsierSC wrote:
good reason

I want to lynch scott


okay yeah i reviewed ksc did have scott in his lynch list most of the day, you're right, ows

that said, with wagons on both it was pretty clear that he preferred tofu until right before EoD, which doesn't negate my point

additionally, palmar and i both said we'd lynch ft over scott

the only reason i didn't vote tofu was the votecount was all confused -_-

^ that is nai btw


The backpedaling is real.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 10 2015 18:40 GMT
#2327
On August 11 2015 03:40 rsoultin wrote:
nope ^^


Yep.
Times infinity + 1.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 10 2015 18:43 GMT
#2330
On August 11 2015 03:41 rsoultin wrote:
you know why you couldn't have, sweetcheeks?

of course you do, cause you thought this through d1 when it was happening

if you'd actually sat there convincing ksc openly well before the lynch and both of you moved

palmar and i would have 100% voted ft to save scott

everyone knows how i play and that i'll vote a null/null-leaning-scum read to protect a player i'm townreading, and you've played with me enough to know that, too. palmar also knows how to play mafia ^^

get rekt


Yeh I'm sure, which is why you kept pushing clarity over tofu and didn't consolidate!

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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 10 2015 18:46 GMT
#2332
On August 11 2015 03:44 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2015 03:43 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On August 11 2015 03:41 rsoultin wrote:
you know why you couldn't have, sweetcheeks?

of course you do, cause you thought this through d1 when it was happening

if you'd actually sat there convincing ksc openly well before the lynch and both of you moved

palmar and i would have 100% voted ft to save scott

everyone knows how i play and that i'll vote a null/null-leaning-scum read to protect a player i'm townreading, and you've played with me enough to know that, too. palmar also knows how to play mafia ^^

get rekt


Yeh I'm sure, which is why you kept pushing clarity over tofu and didn't consolidate!



no need to protect scott when scott isn't being lynched baby face

more telling is i didn't vote scott and try to CONVINCE YOU to vote him, or CONVINCE KSC to vote him, or even VOTE HIM FOR THE TOWNCRED like good responsible scum players do when their boy is going down

i didn't do anything to save ft because

drumroll folks!

i'm not scum lololol ><


Except you hardpushed the clarity wagon.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 10 2015 21:28 GMT
#2338
On August 11 2015 06:26 Onegu wrote:
Alright I am here. I have been trolling Rsoul. I am like 80% Obi is scum and have been since last night when he was asking pointless questions. I guess he is godfather.

Also I like 49% want to lynch rsoul just on like the 20% chance she is scum... But meh. I will like get uber drunk tonight if she is scum but whatever.

##Unvote
##Vote: ObiwanShinobi


How were my questions pointless?
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 10 2015 21:28 GMT
#2339
Rso did nothing but lolcat out of the thread after she got caught.
How is this even happening?
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 10 2015 21:31 GMT
#2343
Onegu, seriously, pay attention to rso's last few posts:

She claimed that her not switching was NAI but uses the fact that she could have switched to save scott as a reason for a scumtell. That doesn't make any sense: if she couldn't/didn't switch, how is that the reasoning behind her read when she claimed she was unable to do anything?

THEN there's the fact that she only reviews what's going on ITT when I CALL HER OUT ON WHAT SHE'S SAYING.

IT MAKES ABSOLUTELY NO SENSE.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 10 2015 21:32 GMT
#2345
On August 11 2015 06:30 Onegu wrote:
YOu just come back after I change my vote. The pointless question was who I would have voted for if I was scum day 1...


I've been here the whole time.
Of course I've been here the whole time: it's lylo.

I still don't see how that's pointless when I don't understand your scum meta and I've been suspicious of you for a large majority of time when I know you vote your scum partners, ESPECIALLY when your logic revolves around who is voting what.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 10 2015 21:32 GMT
#2347
On August 11 2015 06:31 Onegu wrote:
Anywho Dota


DON'T YOU FUCKING DARE.

I WILL JUMP THROUGH TIME AND SPACE TO MURDER YOU IF YOU DO THIS.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 10 2015 21:33 GMT
#2348
Mod I apologize but I'm flipping out I'm sry I'm sry I'm sry.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 10 2015 21:33 GMT
#2349
On August 11 2015 06:32 Onegu wrote:
Wait what?


READ.

RSO IS MAFIA.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 10 2015 21:34 GMT
#2351
On August 11 2015 06:33 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2015 06:32 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On August 11 2015 06:30 Onegu wrote:
YOu just come back after I change my vote. The pointless question was who I would have voted for if I was scum day 1...


I've been here the whole time.
Of course I've been here the whole time: it's lylo.

I still don't see how that's pointless when I don't understand your scum meta and I've been suspicious of you for a large majority of time when I know you vote your scum partners, ESPECIALLY when your logic revolves around who is voting what.



But the scum you game you brought up earlier I multiple times voted to save my mafia partner...


DUH.
THAT'S EXACTLY WHY I ASKED.

TWO MAFIA PARTNERS WERE UP FOR LYNCH AND I WANTED TO KNOW WHAT WORLD MADE MORE SENSE TO YOU.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 10 2015 21:36 GMT
#2353
On August 11 2015 06:34 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2015 06:31 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Onegu, seriously, pay attention to rso's last few posts:

She claimed that her not switching was NAI but uses the fact that she could have switched to save scott as a reason for a scumtell. That doesn't make any sense: if she couldn't/didn't switch, how is that the reasoning behind her read when she claimed she was unable to do anything?

THEN there's the fact that she only reviews what's going on ITT when I CALL HER OUT ON WHAT SHE'S SAYING.

IT MAKES ABSOLUTELY NO SENSE.


zzzz ^^

scum is caught scum is caught ^^

you're not reaaaaading

i said i woulda switched to ft but that woulda been nai cause i could have done that as either alignment

me not doing anything to try to divert the ft lynch makes me town

you called me out on nothing ^^ you were right that ksc did scumread scott

but wrong that ksc preferred scott to ft

if you're scum (and you are lol ><)

palmar and i are town

you know we vote ft to save scott there

-bounces around-


Except you said you couldn't switch because of the VCs being messed up.
And then you said you would switch to save scott.

I just pointed out your lie getrekt.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 10 2015 21:37 GMT
#2354
ONEGU
SWITCH
BACK
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 10 2015 21:38 GMT
#2359
On August 11 2015 06:38 Onegu wrote:
Also once I got into palmars filter he was scum reading you much harder than he was rsoul. So it kinda makes sense you would shoot him over her. Also you believed I would just tunnel onto her in lylo so you shot GB over her. Also I think you thought it would make me look worse. I guess scum rsoul shoots GB there also.

But do you really think scum rsoul tries to pocket me here in lylo this hard?


Yes to the bolded.
Palmar was townreading me by the time he voted Bf.

In what world do I shoot my top supporter going into lylo?
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 10 2015 21:40 GMT
#2361
the only reason i didn't vote tofu was the votecount was all confused -_-


palmar and i would have 100% voted ft to save scott


Literally right off the last page.

COME ON.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 10 2015 21:40 GMT
#2363
Page 117.
Read.
Fucking seriously.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 10 2015 21:41 GMT
#2365
On August 11 2015 06:40 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2015 06:38 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On August 11 2015 06:38 Onegu wrote:
Also once I got into palmars filter he was scum reading you much harder than he was rsoul. So it kinda makes sense you would shoot him over her. Also you believed I would just tunnel onto her in lylo so you shot GB over her. Also I think you thought it would make me look worse. I guess scum rsoul shoots GB there also.

But do you really think scum rsoul tries to pocket me here in lylo this hard?


Yes to the bolded.
Palmar was townreading me by the time he voted Bf.

In what world do I shoot my top supporter going into lylo?


and not during the night phase you shot him

i was your top supporter you filthy liar

zzzz


I was talking about Gb in my final line, NOT Palmar.

But thanks for the misrep I suppose.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 10 2015 21:41 GMT
#2366
On August 11 2015 06:41 Onegu wrote:
No he doesnt his last post is lynch into Rsoul/GB/OWS

And on the previous page he is much harder scum reading you over rsoul..


He said his whole reread was useless and it led to nothing.
COME ON.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 10 2015 21:43 GMT
#2370
On August 11 2015 06:41 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2015 06:40 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
the only reason i didn't vote tofu was the votecount was all confused -_-


palmar and i would have 100% voted ft to save scott


Literally right off the last page.

COME ON.


lol not a lie

the context you so cleverly omitted:

if you'd tried to convince KSC to lynch scott

it is clear by my posting and palmar's

that we'd vote ft

zzzzz


Except you claimed that you couldn't, so even if scott was on the line the exact same thing would have happened and made it look infinitely worse.

Nice try.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 10 2015 21:43 GMT
#2373
On August 11 2015 06:42 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2015 06:41 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On August 11 2015 06:40 rsoultin wrote:
On August 11 2015 06:38 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On August 11 2015 06:38 Onegu wrote:
Also once I got into palmars filter he was scum reading you much harder than he was rsoul. So it kinda makes sense you would shoot him over her. Also you believed I would just tunnel onto her in lylo so you shot GB over her. Also I think you thought it would make me look worse. I guess scum rsoul shoots GB there also.

But do you really think scum rsoul tries to pocket me here in lylo this hard?


Yes to the bolded.
Palmar was townreading me by the time he voted Bf.

In what world do I shoot my top supporter going into lylo?


and not during the night phase you shot him

i was your top supporter you filthy liar

zzzz


I was talking about Gb in my final line, NOT Palmar.

But thanks for the misrep I suppose.


yeah misread that :/

lol


Gotta fact check again, right?

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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 10 2015 21:44 GMT
#2374
On August 11 2015 06:43 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2015 06:41 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On August 11 2015 06:41 Onegu wrote:
No he doesnt his last post is lynch into Rsoul/GB/OWS

And on the previous page he is much harder scum reading you over rsoul..


He said his whole reread was useless and it led to nothing.
COME ON.



Yeah and that means he keeps his previous reads which was scum reading you. The night he was shot he never town read you.


That's bullshit and you know it.
If he scumread me he would have pushed me, but he changed his mind.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 10 2015 21:46 GMT
#2376
On August 11 2015 06:44 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2015 06:43 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On August 11 2015 06:41 rsoultin wrote:
On August 11 2015 06:40 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
the only reason i didn't vote tofu was the votecount was all confused -_-


palmar and i would have 100% voted ft to save scott


Literally right off the last page.

COME ON.


lol not a lie

the context you so cleverly omitted:

if you'd tried to convince KSC to lynch scott

it is clear by my posting and palmar's

that we'd vote ft

zzzzz


Except you claimed that you couldn't, so even if scott was on the line the exact same thing would have happened and made it look infinitely worse.

Nice try.


lol you mean a last minute mass switch to scott? you think in shenanigans i don't? lol you're cute

cause YOU CLAIMED that you would have tried to CONVINCE KSC

which would have happened well before last minute EoD


I don't think you understand how shenannies work.
Nor do I think you understand what a "mass switch" is, especially in regards to scott only needing 2 votes (mine and ksc's, who was totally willing to switch) meaning the exact opposite of a mass switch.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 10 2015 21:47 GMT
#2378
On August 11 2015 06:46 rsoultin wrote:
the reason to shoot gb for a scum obi is obvious xP

gb fluctuates like the wind

onegu says he always lynches rsoul 100% there

you think it's safe to keep us in lylo together

you were just

RSOUL'D lolol >< boom!


Lmfao no it fucking doesn't.
I shoot the guy who supports me over the person who does a 180 and decides that I'm last scum and gives a dying wish to have me lynched?

What a joke.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 10 2015 21:48 GMT
#2382
On August 11 2015 06:48 Onegu wrote:
Then what is rsouls reason to shoot GB?


To have me lynched?
Look at what's fucking happening RIGHT NOW.

TTHINK.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 10 2015 21:49 GMT
#2383
EVERYONE has doubted me at some point this game, and it makes PERFECT SENSE for me to be in lylo with LITERALLY ANYONE.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 10 2015 21:50 GMT
#2385
On August 11 2015 06:50 rsoultin wrote:
lol yeah i take oneg with me to lylo when he's saying he's gonna 100% lynch me

i'm a masochistic moron with a death wish

tryyyyy agaaaaiiiiiin


lol as if a statement made days upon days ago based on absolutely nothing would be direction for a night kill.
So much reachyness.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 10 2015 21:52 GMT
#2389
On August 11 2015 06:51 Onegu wrote:
I just said it the night gb was killed...


What you said isn't exactly relevant.
RSO has been planning this push since beforehand.

REALISTICALLY, how would you actually have voted her today?
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 10 2015 21:53 GMT
#2391
On August 11 2015 06:50 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2015 06:50 rsoultin wrote:
lol yeah i take oneg with me to lylo when he's saying he's gonna 100% lynch me

i'm a masochistic moron with a death wish

tryyyyy agaaaaiiiiiin


lol as if a statement made days upon days ago based on absolutely nothing would be direction for a night kill.
So much reachyness.


Read.
Onegu everything you're saying is, like, 345729% wifom and is completely useless.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 10 2015 21:55 GMT
#2395
On August 11 2015 06:54 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2015 06:52 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On August 11 2015 06:51 Onegu wrote:
I just said it the night gb was killed...


What you said isn't exactly relevant.
RSO has been planning this push since beforehand.

REALISTICALLY, how would you actually have voted her today?



Rsoul is scum. L8R... Something like that...


Sure, but that's not enough to direct a nightkill and you fucking know it.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 10 2015 21:56 GMT
#2396
It sucks because I really think I'm gonna be the guy that makes us lose in lylo again.
I don't know what I'm supposed to say here to make you not vote me and it's really lame, because I can't control night kills or do anything about that kind of stuff.

>:|
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 10 2015 21:56 GMT
#2398
On August 11 2015 06:54 rsoultin wrote:
-snorts-

REALISTICALLY if i were planning a push, i kill oneg and bring gb

the wifom it is real ^^


Gb was my top supporter.
Also doesn't make sense.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 10 2015 21:57 GMT
#2399
On August 11 2015 06:56 Onegu wrote:
IF you are town this is all on me...


SERIOUSLY?
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 10 2015 21:59 GMT
#2403
On August 11 2015 06:58 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2015 06:58 rsoultin wrote:
appeal to emotion

tbf i did that too

but the difference is i actually brought evidence against you as well

i had a scumread

i did the legwork

i didn't hide behind an excuse that i was rereading the thread, then never brought new information, and pussyfooted around to see where oneg was going to go

i took the information, determined who i thought was scum, and went with it

gg scum ^^



But you couuld do all this as scum


SWITCH BACK
ONE MINUTE

COME ON WE CAN STILL WIN
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 10 2015 21:59 GMT
#2404
COME ON ONEGU
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 10 2015 22:03 GMT
#2413
I honestly don't know why I even sign up for these games anymore.
Though I guess I lasted a long time as confirmed mafia.

So that's something.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 10 2015 22:04 GMT
#2418
On August 11 2015 07:03 LightningStrike wrote:
Lol that switch in the last half hour of the game was funny but good for town to win ^_^


Funny for you guys maybe.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 10 2015 22:04 GMT
#2420
I'm done.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 11 2015 12:46 GMT
#2479
Onegu was lynchable.
Palmar was not.

You know something is fucked when your idea of winning consists of "lynch the green check, THEN lynch the roleclaim in lylo to win."
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