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On July 25 2015 11:38 Snickers wrote: lol hopeless rider confirmed scum On July 25 2015 11:39 Snickers wrote: im so clueless idk if there is a voting thread or not let me find out. I also have no clue what the fuck this guy is doing. | ||
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I want to know why scott gave ksc posts + what his read on ksc is now. He had this whole bit on not liking ksc's entrance, ksc came back with "you can't find me scummy if you don't find anyone else scummy" (which makes no sense at all) and then scott immediately left him alone and gave him posts. Made no sense at all. | ||
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/shrug I'm not even trying to say I have an issue with kelsier. I've liked a lot of his questioning thus far. It's scott I didn't like, because I didn't understand how his read evolved. | ||
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(I mean he's got some other good stuff in his filter but the most important part is that he amuses me.) | ||
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On July 26 2015 03:36 Onegu wrote: Rsoul why so angry? Also why dont you believe my claim. Legit scum read now. I don't understand how this is scummy. Elaborate? | ||
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Okay I guess. Why is her not believing your claim scummy? | ||
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On July 26 2015 07:25 Palmar wrote: He gets special treatment because I just cba arguing him to be scum unless I'm sure. It's such a pain in the ass to try to do it. Try lynching him while he's sleeping. (I'm catching up and I'll post stuff in a bit.) | ||
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Elaborate for me? | ||
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On July 26 2015 12:51 Onegu wrote: Like what is my motivation as scum to make this claim this early? Your odds are way off there are normally 2-3 blues in a 13 player setup. There are 7 possible blue roles. So the odds are 2/7 or 3/7 you get CC if you make this claim as scum. There are 3 scum out of 13. So yes the slight majority of the time you dont get CC and you are ok. But the other 40ish percent of the time you are CC and at best you trade 1 for 1 against a blue that has no powers. But knowing me I am lynched first and then you lost one scum and confirmed a town. Not worth the risk. Also you think I am bussing Rsoul when if we were scum together... Wait nevermind I would totally bus the shit out of her if we ever rolled scum together. But we didnt. It's not like this reasoning stopped you from shooting scib. | ||
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On July 26 2015 12:59 rsoultin wrote: he's done it too much as town for that to mean anything? like, i have a way to read him but it requires a little more time than this lol >< and it's still in it's early stages but it bore fruit last game It doesn't matter. He's had enough scumgames where he claims/does terrible things with his roles to know that it doesn't mean anything for him in terms of being confirmed town. His claim buys him a day, maybe. That's it. | ||
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On July 26 2015 12:55 Hopeless1der wrote: Can I just say "waffle" and leave it at that? @GB re kelsier I see a number of somewhat explained town reads in his filter but little to no scum reads and vague "I'd lynch this guy...maybe" vibes. Not feeling great about kelsier but I would really want to lynch him today. Iuno. Like. I know what you're saying and I also want to lynch scott. I was kind of aware of the idea behind what you were saying but I felt like there was something I was missing from your post. Like in hindsight it was kind of obvious but still. | ||
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On July 26 2015 13:07 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Iuno. Like. I know what you're saying and I also want to lynch scott. I was kind of aware of the idea behind what you were saying but I felt like there was something I was missing from your post. Like in hindsight it was kind of obvious but still. I guess the point of this jumbled mishmash of garbage is that I think Hope is probably town. | ||
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On July 26 2015 13:40 GlowingBear wrote:Then admits being stupid isn't a scum tell but he would be okay to lynch me anyway. I do this literally all the time. | ||
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Current lynch list: scott. Probably ft. Also hi. | ||
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My biggest issue with him was that he came up with all of these reasons to vote Palmar, but disappeared after throwing his vote down. Not only did it feel very token, but he did so at a time where the VC looked really terrible in terms of vote spread. I'm also willing to switch to scott but I don't know how much more I can say about him that hasn't already been done to death. | ||
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On July 27 2015 02:21 FirmTofu wrote: Also, the fact that this train is catching so fast should be indicative of the fact that mafia is clearly very happy about this lynch. It wasn't really a fast train at all. In fact you only showed up after I voted you. Who's the mafia on your wagon and why? | ||
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On July 27 2015 02:23 GlowingBear wrote: This would be true if the second wagon is Mafia. Do you believe scott or hopeless are Mafia? I don't understand how this works, exactly? | ||
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On July 27 2015 02:29 GlowingBear wrote: Well, if both wagons are town, Mafia doesn't have to rush to decide their votes and advocate for a mislynch. In case a scum partner is up for the lynch, when a second wagon is proposed and the guy is town, if fills much faster. The only time I've seen the speed of a wagon dictate anything is at EoD, when there's a wagon that's safe and easy to jump on. IE not in this circumstance. | ||
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On July 27 2015 03:07 FirmTofu wrote: I don't see a list post in boxer's filter. He also wasn't my top lynches. I just said I'd be down to lynch him. His last few posts have been redeeming though and he does have a vote down for scott. I don't really want to lynch him anymore. Redeeming how? | ||
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Consolidate. | ||
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On July 27 2015 03:46 FirmTofu wrote: I like this post because it points out hypocrisy. Also, clarity is a good lynch candidate and it shows that Palmar is wary of him. I like this post because it seems like a genuine stream of consciousness post, one that reflects both uncertainty and self-doubt. Just sounds townie to me. It also is part of series of posts he had with glowingbear that actually led to some substantive discussion on Kelsier. I like people who are actively contributing and Palmar seems to finally be doing that. Let's be clear. I'm not saying Palmar is town or even a townread for me. Just that his last few posts are redeeming and I am okay with not lynching him. Why is clarity a good lynch candidate? This is the first time you've mentioned him thus far. | ||
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I asked him about Bf. | ||
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I don't get it. | ||
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On July 27 2015 04:17 KelsierSC wrote: obi can you tell me why you think ft is the better lynch over scott? What changed your mind? I said I wanted to lynch both of them. | ||
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On July 27 2015 04:23 Palmar wrote: Yeah for now im gonna vote clarity I need to run but will be back before the deadline Why? I feel like I've asked like 3459863498 times but nobody has answered me. | ||
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On July 27 2015 04:26 raynpelikoneet wrote: goddamn Palmar. At least comment on what i said about FT?!?!? why is noone i expect to play is playing? Well you have me. :> Why is clarity probably scum? | ||
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On July 27 2015 04:30 KelsierSC wrote: I know, it was just scott was scum and ft was a "probably" so just curious why you voted that way. /shrug I don't actually have much of a preference between the two. Also I just looked into clarity's filter and, yeah, it's kinda garbage. | ||
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Uhh. | ||
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On July 27 2015 05:01 KelsierSC wrote: rsoul is town, this is a really push. But hey apparently that is what we do this game Clarity, Tofu or Scott No one else is worth considering. Good list. Will be getting food, be back in about an hour. | ||
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On July 27 2015 05:05 FirmTofu wrote: Exactly this. Lynch someone who isn't contributing. Who isn't engaging. Even if you think I'm mafia, wouldn't it be better to just wait? You know I'm going to talk more than useless and scummy people like Clarity and scott. Maybe you'll get something out of me? lol. I'm not moving my vote. Sorry. | ||
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On July 27 2015 06:00 rsoultin wrote: lol ye i still think clarity is more likely to flip scum i'll lynch ft over scott look, obi...yeah he's afkish but he literally comes in without a read on rayn, says he'll sheep him (yes it can be assumed he's townreading rayn there cause otherwise it makes no fucking sense) and jumps on the hopeless wagon who, if i recall, was the only real non-retarded push at the time. sheeping implies he has no read on the guy yet he starts "championing" this push on hopeless while snickers is tunneling me which felt really off...like seriously if hopeless ever flips scum it's highly likely clar is scum for that alone then he comes back in with that big post on why he thinks hopeless is scum (which essentially is really no different from what he first said, just that hopeless' first post felt "forced") like, if the guy isn't going to be around today, you really think he puts in NO WORK, sheeps someone who he may or may not have even have had a townread on, then pretends his read on hopeless was strong by parroting what he said in the first place, which was essentially parroting what RAYN said in the first place? we all just got out of a game with clarity. you really think this is his town game? i don't I'm not arguing against a Clarity lynch. I just feel very confident in my FT read. | ||
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On July 27 2015 02:09 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Anyways I'm going to vote FT. My biggest issue with him was that he came up with all of these reasons to vote Palmar, but disappeared after throwing his vote down. Not only did it feel very token, but he did so at a time where the VC looked really terrible in terms of vote spread. I'm also willing to switch to scott but I don't know how much more I can say about him that hasn't already been done to death. | ||
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How did he become town and then mafia again? | ||
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Even then I still want to lynch FT. Let's go with that. | ||
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On July 27 2015 06:43 Onegu wrote: FT needs to die here, my biggest reason was his early pushes were on what seemed like the really easy targets. How is Palmar an easy target? He is the exact opposite of an easy target, even when he's afk. | ||
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On July 27 2015 06:50 KelsierSC wrote: onegu's reason seems bad, who is an easy target he pushed on? The only other player FT pushed on at that point in time was BF. | ||
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On July 27 2015 06:53 rsoultin wrote: tbh scott disappearing bothers me a lot more than his saying clar could be scum, too -_- He's been doing this all game lmfao. | ||
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On July 27 2015 07:24 KelsierSC wrote: yeh I thought onegu's reason didn't make any sense , scott had disappeared and tofu had posted quite a bit . I was undecided. Was going to vote scott then tofu ninja voted him so again I didn't know what to do. Sort of panicked last minute. Onegu's vote still looks pretty bad btw. | ||
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On July 27 2015 07:35 KelsierSC wrote: well I mean why would he come back and randomly justify his vote as scum there? I don't see how this is relevant. Even then, if this is what you thought then why did that affect your vote in the first place? | ||
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I'm trying to solve everything at once and it's probably not necessary. Lynching off the FT wagon is probably the best course of action. | ||
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On July 27 2015 07:49 Palmar wrote: There is exactly 1 mafia on the wagon and 1 off it. Or maybe not. But i wouldn't be surprised. 10/10 Stellar analysis. | ||
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So is snickers. But clarity should just be shot or something if he's not even going to play. | ||
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ows i looked particularly close at cause i think his comment on clarity being an objectively bad cop check was shit Except he is. It's really not a hard concept to understand. | ||
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The only things I'd change would be moving hopeless down and moving kelsier up. Hopeless currently fits into the same heuristic as FT did - someone who posted a case for the sake of posting a case. The scenario is slightly different, considering hopeless was under pressure and FT wasn't, but it still holds because hopeless basically threw his vote down and fucked off completely after people left him alone. If we're lynching off the FT wagon, that's where I'd look. | ||
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Hm? | ||
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On July 27 2015 22:57 Clarity_nl wrote: Welp irl is shit and everything is shit. If there's a vigi they should shoot me as it doesn't look like I'll get the chance to play properly. I gtg lol | ||
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Gb is a dark horse lynch for me at this juncture but he's steadily climbing my list. | ||
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On July 28 2015 06:00 rsoultin wrote: 87/90 one word: xxx now talk to me -_- Rayn was the counter wagon to Jat though. It's not the same thing. | ||
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In the meantime, I'd suggest either a hopeless or a clarity lynch. | ||
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On July 28 2015 09:00 Palmar wrote: ##vote Glowingbear Because my red check said so. :o Noice. | ||
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On July 28 2015 09:17 rsoultin wrote: 2/80 ... meh -_- i really don't think he's scum, is the problem. like, i still think this is unlikely to come from a scummate as soon as ft enters the game? ^ GB should have known FT was playing if they were scum together? i kinda think maybe he's a miller? cause i kinda think palmar doesn't fake-claim cop here? I don't understand how that GB line matters? | ||
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On July 28 2015 10:29 Hopeless1der wrote: yeah, my quote was earlier. good try bud. Lets move on. Who thinks there are scum in that list? I think those are all townies. Because? | ||
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On July 28 2015 10:40 Hopeless1der wrote: reasons....but i just read your filter and you're townier than clarity and kelsier...so much for that. I was talking about how you came to the conclusion as to how FT's scumlist was all town. | ||
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On July 28 2015 06:58 Snickers wrote:so obi told the cop the check me or rso Yep. and maybe clarity i think Nope. but they he says that i m in his top tier of two and rso right below that tier but still town. yea that makes perfect sense. Yeah it does. Rso made a big post and I changed my reads. | ||
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On July 28 2015 10:53 Hopeless1der wrote: wait wut? Does the post restriction apply to a given day or does each cycle add 80 posts? i.e. do I have 80 posts for Day2 or (Whatever was left from Day1) plus 80? He's talking about the time I was talking about cop checks. /shrug | ||
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On July 28 2015 10:58 Snickers wrote: Wow u said u would answer me now ur blowing me off. Yea I think it's scummy to tell the cop to look at ur town reads. Especially the the person read town by most people. I'm like 100% you're not even reading the same game as I am anymore. How am I blowing you off, exactly? | ||
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On July 28 2015 11:00 Snickers wrote: /shrug when you said would explain I explained it though. Like. What part remains unexplained? I was happy with most if not all of rso's readslist that she made after I made the statement. The fact that you're talking about me agreeing with Palmar's list is so far after my/her posts that I'm scratching my head and wondering how that made sense to you. Why is it suspicious that I called for cop checks on two players that hard-pushed lynches opposite of the flipped mafia wagon? Or are the two thoughts just codependent on each other? There are so many things that happened between the posts you're talking about and I just...Don't understand how this results in whatever it is you're doing right now. | ||
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Why do people even care, like really? | ||
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On July 28 2015 11:42 Snickers wrote: it seems stupid to want the cop to check people you think are town Except I established that I wasn't actually saying this. | ||
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On July 28 2015 11:43 Snickers wrote: like you also said i want people to consolidate and me and rso and clarity didnt maybe thats why u are confused I don't understand what you're trying to say here. Elaborate? | ||
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On July 28 2015 11:47 Snickers wrote: am i high as balls or what obi said check these people then next post is claling these people town and it was the same night phase right? then he said he would explain to me why and he never did. then i ask him again and he says he already did? did i fucking miss something? or is he just angry? I explained that I was happy with rso's readslist which came after I had posted my bit on the claims. It stands to reason that I would change my reads accordingly. I don't understand why all this happening during the night phase is pivotal to the point you're making. What makes you think I'm angry? | ||
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I figured that you were going to talk to me or something. | ||
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Really, I am. | ||
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On July 28 2015 12:28 Snickers wrote: but that didnt happen lol | ||
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On July 28 2015 12:34 Snickers wrote: so i go from top two scum to top two town.... Still no. It's a cop check, not a vigilante bullet. when i was specfically trying to be scummy in the night to not get night killed lol No scumteam would ever shoot you. | ||
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On July 28 2015 13:46 GlowingBear wrote: Snickers, those are the most damning points on Palmar. What is bad in it? And just have in mind that rayn was shot and Palmar relied on his read on rsoultin to push her without even considering that rayn also had a scumread on him. Like, please. The bolded I really didn't understand. The cop thing was really weird tbh. | ||
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On July 28 2015 13:53 GlowingBear wrote: I think I phrased it bad. He made the cop thing to scumread rsoultin. Then he used the argument that rayn scumread rsoultin and he is GOD TOWN!11!!!1!!!1! Unfortunately, GOD TOWN also scumread Palmar and he is not considering it. He picks from Rayn only what is important to his agenda. You DO agree with me that relying on the confirmation that Rayn is town and had a scumread on his target is a very opportunistic argument, don't you? Especially when the same Rayn also had a scumread on Palmar. If Palmar was town, he would take a step back when using Rayn's scum read on rsoultin to back up his vote. The bolded is the key issue I had with his reasoning. I don't understand how it outweighs a clarity vote. | ||
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This looks like something I can get behind. If Palmar is scum, who else goes with him? | ||
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Is that really scum/scum though? | ||
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On July 28 2015 23:29 Palmar wrote: ... There is nothing to elaborate on. Are you not reading thread? I read it. I just didn't particularly agree with it at the time and thought I was missing something before GB talked about it. | ||
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I'll be at work and phoneposting most of today. Palmar's recent posting raises the bar for him somewhat, so I'll be taking a second look at that rso case. | ||
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iirc she made a bunch of posts and you haven't even commented on them or anything. Afaik you've ignored her for almost two days. | ||
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On July 29 2015 05:34 boxerfred wrote: He also missed that I'm not agreeing with Palmar on lynching Onegu but instead am saying that I'm fine with a policy afk lynch on people, namely Clarity. Huge pile of shit. This probably marks either the second or third nonsensical read onegu has come up with. | ||
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On July 29 2015 09:40 Snickers wrote: I like how onegu implies he has done something townie since his claim lol But he claimed though! | ||
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On July 29 2015 09:46 rsoultin wrote: 31/80 yo, ows...for the thing to work properly we have to apparently spell names right or we'll have a repeat of d1 -_- lol fine whatever. | ||
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Your reason for voting FT wasn't even good. | ||
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On July 29 2015 13:14 Snickers wrote: well im almost ouit of posts if someone wants to donate but i couldnt find one thing where gb said we need to lynch these four people and they are all in my town circle now also WHOAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA LOOK AT THAT HE TOLD THE COP TO CHECK RSO IN THE NIGHT AFTER CLARITY AND HE ALSO MAGICALLY THOUGHT RSO WAS TOWN AFTER HER BIG POST OF SCUM. so rso godfather. that is all my dear friends There are several people who did this. I don't understand how it equates rso with "godfather." | ||
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On July 29 2015 13:46 Hopeless1der wrote: Snickers, keep whatever posts you want in a notepad file, i'll give you a couple posts tomorrow so you can avoid spamming the thread with your usual garbage. One concentrated dose that we can easily ignore would be just great though. No pls. | ||
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On July 30 2015 01:02 Hopeless1der wrote: so snickers just burns through posts because he doesnt care...wtf, why dont we have a vig. Rso just explained this to you but you complained about it anyway. | ||
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I'm pretty happy with where we're headed today. Clarity is probably gonna get modkilled for not voting anyways so I don't see any problems atm. | ||
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On July 30 2015 01:29 GlowingBear wrote: The problem is scott is voting hopeless with his main scumreads without having any prior suspicions or comments on hopeless when both boxer and snickers are voting for one of his top scum reads (me). This happened? | ||
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If Hopeless and clarity are both mafia there's 0 chance of hopeless fakeclaiming cop here. | ||
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I think what Gb just brought to the table is pretty good tbf. | ||
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On July 30 2015 02:27 scott31337 wrote: Sorry it had to come to that Hopeless. ##Unvote ##Vote Glowingbear GB goes straight for the "Probably the GF"... Gotta love it. I mean people see GB be town but his EoD D1 was terrible.. Snickers and Boxer see it. Palmar slightly does.. No body else does though? I mean there's only two mafia left. Am I just blind or was it just bad townie play? I don't really think it was that weird for him to jump to the "possible Gf" angle. You'll have to explain that bit to me. | ||
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I'm not even reading that capslock wall. | ||
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On July 30 2015 03:03 Half the Sky wrote: Moderator Announcement: Please welcome Alakaslam to the Outback. He replaces Clarity_nl, effective immediately. rofl | ||
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On July 30 2015 03:07 boxerfred wrote: OWS, why is your vote still on the un-cc-ed cop? I'm not voting the uncc'd cop? | ||
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On July 30 2015 03:10 boxerfred wrote: Boom, another thought on scott: why did he insta-believe both cop claims? Is that a scum tmi slip? In both cases he did not wait for a possible CC. Makes me re-think my town read. 37/60 This is kind of where I'm at. Both claims immediately benefited him so he just went "yeah sure" and didn't care about the repercussions. | ||
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I'll consolidate on Gb if I absolutely have to but I'd like everyone to at least look at scott, green check aside. | ||
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On July 30 2015 03:26 GlowingBear wrote: To be honest, obi being ok with my lynch is extremely suspicious. Bah I'm not okay with it. I'm trying to steer the lynch elsewhere. | ||
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On July 30 2015 03:37 KelsierSC wrote: just horrible to not read, jump on a post from like page 60 when there is a whole game to read and then waste your vote on someone no one is voting for. Only reason not to lynch clarity was he was getting mod killed. ##unvote ##vote Alakaslam As opposed to what, exactly? | ||
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On July 30 2015 04:29 boxerfred wrote: that's bullshit obi go lynch gb No it's not. He just threw away his vote on a safe wagon and left, literally the EXACT SAME THING he accused Slam of doing. | ||
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I'm out of ideas. I'm heading to work. I really don't want to lynch Slam today because he seems like 598709 times more invested/energetic than clarity and I'd rather sort him properly when he does stuff. Do you have something on Bf outside of PoE? | ||
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I'm gone in like 10 minutes. :/ | ||
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:/ | ||
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Try again town. | ||
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Not really. | ||
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Should have stuck with my clarity read I guess. | ||
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On July 30 2015 08:02 KelsierSC wrote: unfortunately it seems that obi has wanted to lynch mafia for the entire game so it's kind of hard to call him scum Not like that's ever stopped anyone before. | ||
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On July 30 2015 23:36 Snickers wrote: thats not a case rsoul is godfather this is a wrap boyz Looks like a case to me. | ||
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No balls. | ||
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On July 31 2015 12:36 GlowingBear wrote: 3/80 I'd love to see scott dying today tbh. Not the best course of action but man I wish he is godfather. A fun thought, though not an optimal one. I'm content with what I've got going on now so I'm gonna chill. | ||
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This is VERY IMPORTANT. | ||
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On August 01 2015 11:17 Snickers wrote: probably cause you havent done anything impressive all game and nothing outstandingly townie either I don't even know what this means. | ||
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Fuck all of you. | ||
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On August 01 2015 12:32 Snickers wrote: yea obi hard pushed scum loololol lynch me Im done Sure, okay. | ||
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On July 31 2015 15:24 GlowingBear wrote: 5/80 I'm lynching boxerfred first. He is objectively a better lynch today. I don't see how Bf is an objectively better lynch. What exactly falls under "townie paranoia" for snickers? I really don't see that at all. | ||
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On August 01 2015 12:49 Snickers wrote: you guys should learn to not be so toxic and increase ur reading skills This is going to be my signature as soon as this game ends. | ||
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(jat, koshi and i are all smart people lol ><) Uh huh. | ||
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He even makes a point to play out stupid situations because he thinks it's fun. | ||
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On August 03 2015 02:46 boxerfred wrote: well i concede Oh cool. | ||
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What game are you reading? | ||
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It's a last second swap to another player. | ||
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Here's an alternative question: who else does Bf shoot in his position? | ||
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I don't see why he wouldn't shoot him. | ||
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Duh? | ||
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What exactly are you getting at by bringing it up? | ||
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Dur. | ||
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I don't really think the NKA points to Palmar over BF, tbh. | ||
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the nightkill: we have a ksc kill. why does bf kill ksc? ksc certainly wants to lynch bf, but he wasn't the only one. i am arguably louder and more persuasive and also wanted to lynch bf. the only scum reason to keep both palmar and myself around, then, is to get a wagon started on either palmar or me. in my case, it's unlikely to be enough for bf to escape the lynch. and as for palmar...i'd said i preferred a bf lynch so that's quite a gamble Like this tidbit I don't really get. Again: who else does BF shoot? | ||
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That Palmar case is pretty good though - specifically, I loved point 3. The only tidbit I didn't like was the NKA, but I don't think that really outweighs the case as a whole. | ||
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i dunnae. gonna feel very dumb if i've diverted from scum twice -_- first with snickers, then with palmar. not sure why i keep doubting the bf scumread. i think it's mostly because it's just generally poe and weak? Mostly. | ||
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Disregard. | ||
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On August 04 2015 02:13 rsoultin wrote: Meh i'm wavering on palmar again >< I think he's being awful and has been most of this game but he really hasn't been trying so eh Prob should just lynch bf? I really am taking issue with some of his play these last two phases. The interaction this morning in particular was off What exactly would you be expecting here from scum!Palmar? | ||
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On August 04 2015 11:52 rsoultin wrote: lol so i'm being female and would prefer a bf lynch over a palmar one, but am willing to lynch both and no one else is anyone else playing anymore? I had a pretty long day at work. Thought I'd be able to post but I wasn't. I'll be catching up for a little while though. | ||
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An awe-inspiring one page. /shrug Not really much to comment on so I guess I'll check back in in the morning. | ||
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On August 04 2015 23:40 rsoultin wrote: He's being obnoxious ows but that actually makes me think he's more likely to be town -_- Meh. | ||
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Pretty pls? | ||
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What are you people doing, like really? | ||
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On August 05 2015 05:42 GlowingBear wrote: It seems like a good lynch for the reasons I've brought. + I actually feel she is scummy tonewise Wait, when did this happen? | ||
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On August 05 2015 05:53 GlowingBear wrote: Obi, I've said that throghout the whole game Why are you so annoyed that I am willing to lynch you? Will the game end if that happens? I don't really recall this happening. I'd love to check but I literally can't. This is dumb. | ||
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I'll try to check in but I might not be able to. /shrug | ||
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On August 05 2015 10:37 rsoultin wrote: so the main question is...do people have a townread on scott for anything related to his actual play? or another reason to townread scott apart from ft's push on him or the green check? i'll admit i've pretty much ignored him ever since the green check was proven valid None whatsoever. | ||
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On August 05 2015 12:17 scott31337 wrote: I'm fine with you lynching me if you lynch rsoul in lylo and not waffle. I am just a lonely VT. What is this even. Why do you think rso is mafia? | ||
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On August 05 2015 13:39 rsoultin wrote: that didn't escape me, but what would the scum motivation for that be, gb? why should palmar care who we lynch, as scum, as long as it's not him? I don't see how what you're saying reflects what Gb is saying. Elaborate? | ||
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On August 05 2015 15:57 Onegu wrote: If I am alive with rsoul in lylo I will lynch her 100%. Until then we have another lynch and she isnt the lynch tomorrow. Obi/palmar is most likely... Will look into them if I had a filter but I dont.... What about scott? | ||
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Your read seems kinda reachy. | ||
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On August 05 2015 14:23 rsoultin wrote: well...yeah it's kinda convenient for palmar to suddenly agree and lynch bf, but what would have happened if he didn't? he wasn't getting lynched over bf at the time, so only 1. mislynch bf and look better for not being on another mislynch 2. mislynch someone else i fail to see how his read change benefited him as scum? I still don't really understand how this matters? Like, what was his alternative? Bf was getting lynched. | ||
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On August 05 2015 22:15 Palmar wrote: Oh shit, the good thing about not having filters is that the mods have to manually count posts to know if we're above the limit! WE'RE FREE NOW BOYS, TIME TO SHITPOST rofl | ||
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we had a cop. | ||
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On August 05 2015 22:28 rsoultin wrote: goon goon framer might embolden an oneg but i think it was pretty early when he claimed? that just gets solved tomorrow really...if there are any blues who haven't claimed, they claim the day phase before lylo. easy aren't too many candidates left for that though given how many players have been nearly lynched this game Do you think that there HAVE to be to blues in the setup? | ||
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The reason I'm so concerned is that I've seen mafia claim named vt early and coast the entire game off of it. | ||
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On August 06 2015 06:00 rsoultin wrote: ye i just have this feeling that scum is in someone we're sleeping on possibly gb but that's kinda doubtful given the d2 vote (by slam, lol ><) and my overall toneread on him think it's time for scott and oneg to stop coasting, frankly ^^ everyone else looks fairly townie in gen mostly scott I agree. I might prefer onegu though. | ||
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On August 06 2015 07:49 rsoultin wrote: so ummm...anyone home? At work and phone posting. iirc that was the first time palmar dropped onegu' name as a possible suspect before he died. I'll take another look at his reads to see if I can glean something when I get home. | ||
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/shrug I think we should consider him today tbh. | ||
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On August 06 2015 11:47 GlowingBear wrote: The filter button robbery ticked me up. I can't do work without it Obi, who do we lynch? I literally just said Onegu. It's RIGHT THERE. | ||
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/shrug | ||
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It'll take a little bit though. | ||
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On August 07 2015 02:28 GlowingBear wrote: Palmar townread rsoultin and scumread you. With him dead, there is no one else pushing you. No he didn't. | ||
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No, he didn't. | ||
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No. He didn't. Why do you keep saying this? | ||
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Town - rso, gb Meh - scott Scum - onegu probably I keep flipflopping between onegu and scott but I do agree with rso that that's where we should be looking. | ||
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On August 07 2015 06:37 Onegu wrote: Sigh I have been really busy these are the last games I sign up for a while. Anywho I am still named town. Obi you are barking up the wrong tree. I think I will vote obi here. Then if he isnt scum and if me and rsoul are alive tomorrow lynch her. Why are you trying to convince me that you're town while you're voting me? | ||
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On August 07 2015 08:45 GlowingBear wrote: Because he did, obi. He called boxerfred town and voted you. He then said that he is willing to let rsoultin win the game if she is scum He called me town too and voted Bf at eod. | ||
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On August 07 2015 11:49 GlowingBear wrote: Yeah, I'm never lynching you. I will keep my vote on Scott. Wagons today will probably be between obi and scott only Why is onegu town? | ||
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On August 07 2015 12:55 rsoultin wrote: didn't you have something for me, ows? Still at work, unfortunately. | ||
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I feel like Gb is town. Something Marv said in an obs qt a while back rang very true here - that town!Gb will generally try to get to the bottom of people scumreading him, while scum!Gb generally tries to sit back and takes defending himself way more seriously in regards to getting his story straight. I've recalled several posts Gb made where he went out and tried to "get to the bottom of things" and ruthlessly questioned some people who went after him. There are some intangibles behind this read - tone, namely - but I'm fairly comfortable with this read. I still feel like Rso is town. I don't think the scumreads on her make sense, and a lot of the time I find myself agreeing with what she says and I've liked several of the ideas she's presented. What I don't like about Onegu is the fact that he was lynching Ft for the sake of lynching Ft - Palmar talked about this earlier when he actually went out and quoted some of the stuff I was talking about on day 1. I don't think his reason for jumping on the Ft wagon was particularly good, and aside from that he hasn't given a flying fuck about who he lynches or why, which reminds me of the time he claimed vigi and coasted all game. He won't talk to me when I question him, and that bit about where he lines up a pair of lynches for no reason doesn't do him any favors, imo. I also think the nightkill somewhat implicates him - day 3 was the first time this game IIRC that Palmar talked about lynching him. | ||
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On August 07 2015 14:36 GlowingBear wrote: I've just said it. Because it doesn't make sense to park your vote on your team's framer while you are at risk of being checked by the cop at night I voted FT. You think I'm suspicious. Onegu voted FT. Onegu is not suspicious. How does that work? | ||
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On August 07 2015 14:14 scott31337 wrote: So my work put in a new firewall that blocks TL (sadface) so I won't have any more posts until deadline - but I'll just say if you don't lynch rsoul when I die and we lose I will laugh hard at you. If we win in lylo, yayy! If we lose to any one else, I'll be happy with it. Rsoul's mafia magic read is she doesn't leave epitaphs and she does as town. Has she? *bzzzzt* But you are voting and believe this gf/framer/miller combo - when I flip VT don't derp in lylo. Palmar said I'm town - he was town - hopeless had a green check on me - he flipped cop. rayn did too.. etc etc etc Please re-read Bear, don't fail the town. This is actually kinda shit tbh. :/ | ||
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I can barely tolerate you when you're sober. | ||
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On August 07 2015 15:23 GlowingBear wrote: Yeah, but you were like the fifth vote? He was already probably getting lynched. I don't know. I maybe getting double standards. But I've already seen Onegu getting out of his partners wagon just to hammer town, and I think he would have done that this time too. It's the framer. And there is no Roleblocker on the Mafia team I don't really see how this holds much water. How would Onegu have saved him, exactly? | ||
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On August 07 2015 15:25 GlowingBear wrote: Do you think Onegu thought this when he was on his partners wagon, obi? "I'm gonna kill my framer so the cop never checks me" No lol. I think the whole line of thinking behind this cop check business is weak. | ||
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I don't think this was a feasible thing for anyone involved. Though I'll doublecheck the day 1 votes. | ||
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Not sure if that makes a switch more feasible. | ||
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Maybe I just vote scott here. | ||
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What's that supposed to mean? | ||
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On August 07 2015 15:41 GlowingBear wrote: That clarity could've been protecting his scum partner? Right. | ||
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I'm probably going to end up voting scott btw. | ||
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On August 07 2015 23:50 rsoultin wrote: nh...okay. why him over oneg ows? I keep trying to run through scenarios in my head where town!scott comes up with some half-baked scumread and leaves, and I can't think of one. I think onegu is more likely to do that as town than scott. It's not really that solid. I kind of still want both of them gone. :/ | ||
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On August 07 2015 23:50 rsoultin wrote: nh...okay. why him over oneg ows? What did you think of what I said about onegu? | ||
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On August 08 2015 00:35 GlowingBear wrote: Dear, from the flipped players. We know that firm tofu only made "cases" on town players. He reasoned his vote on Kelsier, he reasoned his vote on palmar. Hell, he preferred to townread hopeless to simply lynch Scott. That's when he saw he was going to get lynched. Would he start trying a counter wagon on a scum player or a town player? Tofu was a framer and a known busser. So yes. | ||
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As for your whole bit on why I don't find you suspicious for being wrong, I just wrote a scumread out on someone who was on the Ft wagon. -.- | ||
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On August 08 2015 01:08 GlowingBear wrote: Scott is clearly not fighting his lynch for someone who is the last Mafia. Scott and Tofu are not the same person. | ||
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On August 08 2015 01:52 GlowingBear wrote: ? I meant scott clearly isn't fighting his own lynch when a mislynch today is crucial for Mafia win con I understand what you're saying. I'm saying that what you're saying isn't as relevant as you're saying it is. | ||
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Still think Gb should put more thought into Onegu. | ||
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On August 08 2015 04:53 GlowingBear wrote: Obi I find weird that you're voting scott instead of actually convincing us Onegu is a better lynch /shrug I explained why and you wrote it off because "cop check." Honestly I'm just trying to see if there's a reasonable alternative to Scott and Onegu is the other lynch I could think of. Still don't really want to lynch you or rso tbh and I think that you trying to look at us over onegu is kinda lame. | ||
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I said Scott was a better lynch. Gb is talking about other possible lynches. I talked about onegu. | ||
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On August 08 2015 05:38 rsoultin wrote: oh you mean you explained why you're voting scott and gb wrote it off? but he's lynching scott? meh i'm just generally confused lol -_- I'm talking about the fact that gb is talking about other lynches, that's it. I might have misspoke but w/e. Honestly there's a good chance the game just ends today. | ||
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On August 09 2015 02:58 GlowingBear wrote: It's Onegu tomorrow, no one else | ||
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On August 09 2015 03:12 rsoultin wrote: more seriously though, last post, i promise i really think his saying he wants to lynch both scott and ft basically negates all the town cred i gave him for not going for a clar lynch. you start piling votes up on clar, much more likely one of the two is going to get lynched. clar was afk but if he hadn't been, the two of them lynching scott would have been enough to save ft quite easily and obviously he argued against the slam lynch whoever is in lylo should take that into account I don't really understand this. | ||
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On August 09 2015 03:41 rsoultin wrote: what's not to understand? there are a limited number of votes if you can keep votes (and let's be honest, tunneled rayn is tunneled) between one partner and a townie rather than both partners it's objectively better i'm not saying it makes you scum. i'm saying it makes my "ironclad" townread on you not very ironclad at all why have you been hard-defending me all game obi? I don't understand how that's "objectively better," nor do I understand how that relates to my alignment. I've been hard-defending you because I thought you were town and that the scumreads on you were nonsensical and bad. | ||
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When has "mafia tone" ever outweighed solid analysis and trying to figure the game out? How does that outweigh someone actually writing cases and getting stuff done? I don't, haven't, and won't think that it does. | ||
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On August 09 2015 03:45 rsoultin wrote: why did you think i was town? i think it's obvious but given how many players clearly don't agree...why are you so sure? what makes me town? i just fooled you pretty hard in gaiden as to your alignment, it's my usual rack and stack gb top town. if he's scum this game i'm horrible, even more horrible than i've already been lol >< and i explained why i believe oneg is town. do you disagree with any of it? I literally just explained it: your cases and activity have been strong and the case against you was bad. I don't think too much of Gaiden because I stopped having fun with that game and basically stopped paying attention halfway through just because of the activity demands of the game, and even then I was under tremendous pressure from Hf which always fucks me up. Ofc I disagree with onegu being town. Just because he can be absolutely shit as town doesn't mean that he can't do fuck all as mafia - claiming is basically the lynchpin of his play regardless of alignment and it's nowhere near unheard of for town to have a minimum in regards to roles. I finished a game where he did literally ALL of the things you said as mafia. | ||
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iirc, he DID switch to save shockeyy but I still think there are enough differences between this game and that one to say "bussing is a feasible thing" and shouldn't be off the table, what with a town this strong and active compared to that one. | ||
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On August 09 2015 04:05 rsoultin wrote: hmmm...looking through it i've got an itch to scratch related to ellipses really random thing to key in on but there was excessive use in that game and i noticed that some seemed off in this one. will have to dive more games blah lol >< the having more reads thing in his scum game still holds true in that one though, obi, unless he's made a ton of reads this one that i just haven't noticed in the midst of everything else I don't really recall him making many reads in that game either but I don't have TL+. I might have to buy it to double check. | ||
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On August 09 2015 04:13 rsoultin wrote: well...keeping scum in the dark as to which kill is the best strategic kill? not sure how effective it is anyway though lol >< Yeah, that doesn't work ever. Scum will just go back and look at the dayphase and shoot someone based on that. It's useless. Robik tried it in my first newbie game on the site and everyone in dead chat called him out on it. | ||
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I voted ft. | ||
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On August 09 2015 22:39 rsoultin wrote: ^ okay oneg. i know you're not a moron and you can figure this out. voting for me is suicide if you're scum so i don't think you are @.@ we can talk about ft as much as you want, talk about trains on two scum with one of them afk and the significance of what each player did, but there's only one player here who started shenanigans on slam who had been blue read by snickers, when the vote was between two players who are now confirmed town i'm not going to defend myself any further than that. i can never be scum this game ##vote OWS How exactly is it suicide? Also, I am awake. | ||
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On August 09 2015 22:58 rsoultin wrote: lol unless you're going to flip your read on me last minute ows? think it's pretty obvious Again, I don't see how this makes him anything. How does that relate to his alignment? | ||
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On August 09 2015 23:19 rsoultin wrote: well it could be wifomy, but which of us is more likely to vote for someone other than oneg? -shrugs- he needs a mislynch as scum, yet he's looking through things and voting for me...not auto-voting for me like "well i said that i'd lynch rsoul in lylo so i'm just gonna do that and afk" but actually doing shit and voting for me based on...d1 i think lol >< but w/e Yeah, but...He's still voting you. So the entire concept is meaningless. -.- | ||
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For who that means what is still up for debate. | ||
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You're townreading him for not playing to survive. Before I go off on my tangent here, confirm that this is the basis of your read? | ||
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On August 10 2015 00:26 rsoultin wrote: also, as a lovely bonus since you want to say it applies to both of you >> i just clearly demonstrated going through your filter that you would have voted for scott. that means that onegu actually could have saved ft if he was scum and you were town by shifting his vote there. he wasn't backed into the same corner Except I wouldn't have: On July 27 2015 06:42 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Yeah we don't have the people to switch to scott. Even then I still want to lynch FT. Let's go with that. :/ I have no idea where this "you would totally switch" narrative is coming from. | ||
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On August 10 2015 00:50 rsoultin wrote: as scum you would have already determined that you couldn't save scott by the time you wrote that post. it was already in the post! this is "evidence"? in your posts preceding that you clearly were fine with either lynch -shrugs- and yes of course oneg, in lylo, as the last scum, plays to survive because that's how he wins. you're not this daft lol so when are you going to find a way to try to say i'm scum and vote for me, ows? i've been waaaaaaiting ^^ Yes, it is "evidence" that I wanted to lynch FT over scott. You saying I'm fine with either lynch and then saying that I would have switched when I said I wouldn't switch is literally the exact opposite of what you're saying. Your bit on calling onegu town for not playing to survive is still a weak narrative when faced with conclusive evidence that shows that he won't play EXACTLY the way you're saying he will as scum. | ||
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On August 10 2015 02:28 Onegu wrote: That being said Obi trying to look at only one of my previous scum games and not the ones where I made it to lylo as scum and trying to control the narrative that way is really weird... It's the only time I've had experience with you playing scum. Which ones should I look at to contest that? | ||
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What did you think of what I said about rso saying you don't play recklessly as scum? All you commented on was the fact that I looked at a single scumgame of yours, which kind of wasn't the point of what I was saying. | ||
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On August 10 2015 03:06 rsoultin wrote: call me scum ows ^^ the posts are in the spoiler, every time you mentioned scott d1 You're doing an excellent job of pissing me off. | ||
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On August 10 2015 06:16 Onegu wrote: Im not going to reread. Yeah not going to happen... It's pretty arduous. | ||
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On August 10 2015 07:27 rsoultin wrote: well, oneg, i get that you'd like to be the hero who first lynched scum!rsoul that's not what's happening this game, though explain to me what my scum motivation was in slam's lynch? or even in the d1 lynch? tell me straight how you can even begin to rationalize i'm scum here we can win this if you're willing to set aside your obstinance lol >< otherwise...eh, i kinda deserve getting mislynched in lylo for being so horrible and misleading town 3 lynches in a row. would rather win, though. shame to throw this game away after lynching scum d1 and d2 I thought he already explained this. | ||
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On August 10 2015 12:01 Onegu wrote: Bus someone who was going to die anyway... Also you shouldnt be alive over palmar... Like if you are town you just shouldnt as he was pushing for your and my lynch. Why does scum obi shoot him there. And like if I am scum I shoot you %1000 just so I can spoil you that I shot you... So like it doesnt make sense... Bleh, this is a good post. | ||
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On August 10 2015 12:16 rsoultin wrote: worthless question wifom question do something productive you're not town ^^ at the very least i can be right when onegu lynches me cause he's a 'tard ^^ It's literally not worthless at all. Go away. | ||
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On August 10 2015 12:23 rsoultin wrote: ^ you wanted your reason, oneg ^ palmar was going to lynch me? lol >< ^ palmar's last reads so basically you're telling me that i decided to kill palmar not when he was hyper tunneling me and i had ksc pocketed prettily if i were scum, but when he stopped fucking tunneling me and was working with me on the game?! you know who does benefit? the guy palmar was talking about lynching. i was still defending ows. why wouldn't ows kill palmar over me as scum in that situation i get you're not used to playing without filters, oneg, but this is exactly why people read the game then they actually have a sense for what was happening during each phase -_- Gb brought up the same thing and I said the same thing to him: Palmar changed his read on me and was basically townreading me by the time of his death. So good job. | ||
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I'm leaning towards voting rso, will sleep on it. Onegu, I hope you'll talk to me at some point about things because I don't really like the fact that you're not engaging me but I think it's more likely you're town than rso is at this point. Deadline IS tomorrow. Gn. | ||
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On August 10 2015 13:03 rsoultin wrote: nope ^^ i was just in his filter You are wrong. | ||
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On August 10 2015 13:05 rsoultin wrote: okay ye this was about you and doesn't show up in a ctrl+f but his last reads were literally his last post and this was obvious before bf flipped scum it doesn't negate that you were keeping your options open with scott -shrugs- you ever going to decide who is scum, ows? do anything at all productive in lylo? do you even care who scum is? certainly doesn't seem like it No, you're actually missing the point completely where Palmar said my decision to vote Ft for the correct reasons was actually towny. I'm relatively certain you had a conversation about it. Your narrative on scott is still garbage. I also just said I wanted to vote you. I can feel you trying to make this work with all of your might, but it's just not coming together. T.T | ||
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On August 10 2015 13:08 rsoultin wrote: lol >> i knew he'd try to weasel his way into scumreading me but here he is waiting for you to bring a point, sheeping it and pretending his read changed for that one post. yeah, sure come on oneg you can't be blind to this -_- why do i not just happily vote you with obi if i'm scum? easy win, i laugh at you trying to lynch me Because he wasn't voting me after he realized that I was the one who voted FT. Is this for real? | ||
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On August 10 2015 13:10 Onegu wrote: @obi really depends on if I had a scum role or not... Like I think I would push clarity or maybe Scott. If I was a goon and it was goon/goon/framer I def try to not lose my framer.... If I am gf I think I am a bit more ok bussing ft... Well Why wouldn't scum!you have voted Ft in that scenario? | ||
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Many townie. Wowe. | ||
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On August 10 2015 13:15 Onegu wrote: I might have if I was GF... But dunno still think I might try to save active scum over inactive scum. I still get cred for lynching scum there Theoretically, this makes sense. Why does Gf take so much priority in your analysis? | ||
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On August 10 2015 13:20 Onegu wrote: Because if it is goon/goon/framer you have no defense against a cop who I would guess was in the game. Because I doubt HtS would run a all vanilla setup since HF just did and slams game was going to be all vanilla Okay, I suppose. | ||
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This is gonna be a pain without filters. | ||
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Then she voted him again. | ||
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/shrug Maybe I'm just making this more complicated that it needs to be. | ||
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Gotta keep reaching for something to push, don't you? -.- | ||
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On August 10 2015 15:06 rsoultin wrote: lol you don't have one you can't explain it's so obvious it's painful lol I love how I go to sleep and you try to use that as an excuse to sell a scumtell on me. Adorable. | ||
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On August 11 2015 02:52 rsoultin wrote: still not a scumread ^^ you can try to discredit me but you'd probably do better actually bringing "evidence" that i'm scum a little friendly advice your timing looks opportunistic, fyi like if you're actually town here which i highly doubt you are there's no way this behavior will ever convince me you're town, especially with your non-opinions, non-pushes, non-intelligent comments, lack of interest Another nice bundle of buzzwords. Gosh. It's almost like you have no interest in understanding the situation and you're just looking to push your final mislynch. \o/ | ||
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On August 11 2015 02:54 rsoultin wrote: shouldn't you be happy ows? lol ^^ you're lynching "scum" if my points are really as empty as you're trying to project, shouldn't you be happy that you've got scum pinned, oneg is voting me and unlikely to change his mind instead you look put out it's that my points are actually valid, isn't it? lol No. They aren't. I've explained my reads between scott/ft and you've completely ignored the fact that Palmar even said that my ideas on voting Ft were towny and that I decided not to switch to scott. It's hilarious, honestly. | ||
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On August 11 2015 02:55 rsoultin wrote: what "situation" are you referring to? i have real points while you talk about nothing concrete I've talked about fucking everything. I even pointed out the parts where you were wrong before and you went "LOLNOPE" and kept pushing me. What a joke. | ||
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On August 11 2015 02:58 rsoultin wrote: that is you saying why you're "town" i've proven that you couldn't save ft if you were scum ^^ this is not you saying why i'm scum or why oneg is town why are you scumreading your top town? Nope. I literally just explained why: Overuse of buzzwords Willful misrepresentation Abnormal development of reads Your reasoning here is amazingly reachy and just doesn't fit a town persona. I can't see this line of thinking coming from a town!rso. I just can't. The only conclusion I can draw here is that you're scum. | ||
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On August 11 2015 03:01 rsoultin wrote: means nothing switch to scott, ft still gets lynched, which you definitely knew given your post so you can't even begin to claim otherwise one "townie" thought does not make someone town Good to know that applied all game just so you could change it at the most convenient moment. Hue. | ||
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On August 11 2015 03:06 rsoultin wrote: so nothing nothing (it's not misrepresentation if it's true, now is it?) and...nothing, because you haven't shown how they're abnormal at all lol this is awful as it gets yeah, ows is scum no worries. i won't try to convince you you're scum any longer yes, i reevaluated. you could actually see me doing it the night phase before the day started. it's unfortunate it took me this long to catch you and that i hard-defended you for so long, but it is what it is -shrugs- and frankly, it's hypocritical anyway for you to say, because you were townreading me all game. at least i have a legitimate reason to doubt you other than buzzwords and "abnormal" reads Except you don't. It's been explained to you repeatedly and you've ignored all of it. Nice try. | ||
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On August 11 2015 03:10 rsoultin wrote: could you or could you not have saved ft by voting scott d1? It's completely irrelevant because I didn't want to. | ||
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On August 11 2015 03:14 rsoultin wrote: lol >< what's completely irrelevant is suspected scum claiming he did or did not wish to vote scott up until (and onegu will see this when he's reviewing the filters so you're fucked) you admitted that your vote couldn't save scott, you were saying you were willing to lynch both could you or could you not have saved ft by voting scott d1? you don't want to answer because you know that you couldn't have ^^ It doesn't matter because I didn't want to. It doesn't matter because I didn't want to. It doesn't matter because I didn't want to. It doesn't matter because I didn't want to. It doesn't matter because I didn't want to. It doesn't matter because I didn't want to. It doesn't matter because I didn't want to. It doesn't matter because I didn't want to. It doesn't matter because I didn't want to. It doesn't matter because I didn't want to. It doesn't matter because I didn't want to. It doesn't matter because I didn't want to. It doesn't matter because I didn't want to. It doesn't matter because I didn't want to. It doesn't matter because I didn't want to. It doesn't matter because I didn't want to. It doesn't matter because I didn't want to. It doesn't matter because I didn't want to. It doesn't matter because I didn't want to. | ||
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Whatever. Doubtful that I'm moving my vote. | ||
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Kelsier was willing to switch to scott. If I wanted to switch to scott, I tell kelsier to switch with me. Palmar can switch at the last second but scott hits more votes first and gets lynched. Have fun playing heroes. | ||
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On August 11 2015 03:31 rsoultin wrote: nope he got cold feet oneg can check that too SHWANG! caught ^^ Of course me not talking to him about switching didn't help anything. No sir. And definitely not why he tried to switch at the last possible second. | ||
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On August 11 2015 03:38 rsoultin wrote: both palmar and i said we'd lynch ft over scott palmar's move was predictable. i should have moved if i'd been more up on the vote count ksc clearly preferred tofu to scott anyway until right before eod you still couldn't save ft zzzz Yeah I could have. | ||
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On August 11 2015 03:36 rsoultin wrote: okay yeah i reviewed ksc did have scott in his lynch list most of the day, you're right, ows that said, with wagons on both it was pretty clear that he preferred tofu until right before EoD, which doesn't negate my point additionally, palmar and i both said we'd lynch ft over scott the only reason i didn't vote tofu was the votecount was all confused -_- ^ that is nai btw The backpedaling is real. | ||
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On August 11 2015 03:40 rsoultin wrote: nope ^^ Yep. Times infinity + 1. | ||
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On August 11 2015 03:41 rsoultin wrote: you know why you couldn't have, sweetcheeks? of course you do, cause you thought this through d1 when it was happening if you'd actually sat there convincing ksc openly well before the lynch and both of you moved palmar and i would have 100% voted ft to save scott everyone knows how i play and that i'll vote a null/null-leaning-scum read to protect a player i'm townreading, and you've played with me enough to know that, too. palmar also knows how to play mafia ^^ get rekt Yeh I'm sure, which is why you kept pushing clarity over tofu and didn't consolidate! | ||
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On August 11 2015 03:44 rsoultin wrote: no need to protect scott when scott isn't being lynched baby face more telling is i didn't vote scott and try to CONVINCE YOU to vote him, or CONVINCE KSC to vote him, or even VOTE HIM FOR THE TOWNCRED like good responsible scum players do when their boy is going down i didn't do anything to save ft because drumroll folks! i'm not scum lololol >< Except you hardpushed the clarity wagon. | ||
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On August 11 2015 06:26 Onegu wrote: Alright I am here. I have been trolling Rsoul. I am like 80% Obi is scum and have been since last night when he was asking pointless questions. I guess he is godfather. Also I like 49% want to lynch rsoul just on like the 20% chance she is scum... But meh. I will like get uber drunk tonight if she is scum but whatever. ##Unvote ##Vote: ObiwanShinobi How were my questions pointless? | ||
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She claimed that her not switching was NAI but uses the fact that she could have switched to save scott as a reason for a scumtell. That doesn't make any sense: if she couldn't/didn't switch, how is that the reasoning behind her read when she claimed she was unable to do anything? THEN there's the fact that she only reviews what's going on ITT when I CALL HER OUT ON WHAT SHE'S SAYING. IT MAKES ABSOLUTELY NO SENSE. | ||
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On August 11 2015 06:30 Onegu wrote: YOu just come back after I change my vote. The pointless question was who I would have voted for if I was scum day 1... I've been here the whole time. Of course I've been here the whole time: it's lylo. I still don't see how that's pointless when I don't understand your scum meta and I've been suspicious of you for a large majority of time when I know you vote your scum partners, ESPECIALLY when your logic revolves around who is voting what. | ||
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On August 11 2015 06:31 Onegu wrote: Anywho Dota DON'T YOU FUCKING DARE. I WILL JUMP THROUGH TIME AND SPACE TO MURDER YOU IF YOU DO THIS. | ||
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On August 11 2015 06:32 Onegu wrote: Wait what? READ. RSO IS MAFIA. | ||
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On August 11 2015 06:33 Onegu wrote: But the scum you game you brought up earlier I multiple times voted to save my mafia partner... DUH. THAT'S EXACTLY WHY I ASKED. TWO MAFIA PARTNERS WERE UP FOR LYNCH AND I WANTED TO KNOW WHAT WORLD MADE MORE SENSE TO YOU. | ||
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On August 11 2015 06:34 rsoultin wrote: zzzz ^^ scum is caught scum is caught ^^ you're not reaaaaading i said i woulda switched to ft but that woulda been nai cause i could have done that as either alignment me not doing anything to try to divert the ft lynch makes me town you called me out on nothing ^^ you were right that ksc did scumread scott but wrong that ksc preferred scott to ft if you're scum (and you are lol ><) palmar and i are town you know we vote ft to save scott there -bounces around- Except you said you couldn't switch because of the VCs being messed up. And then you said you would switch to save scott. I just pointed out your lie getrekt. | ||
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On August 11 2015 06:38 Onegu wrote: Also once I got into palmars filter he was scum reading you much harder than he was rsoul. So it kinda makes sense you would shoot him over her. Also you believed I would just tunnel onto her in lylo so you shot GB over her. Also I think you thought it would make me look worse. I guess scum rsoul shoots GB there also. But do you really think scum rsoul tries to pocket me here in lylo this hard? Yes to the bolded. Palmar was townreading me by the time he voted Bf. In what world do I shoot my top supporter going into lylo? | ||
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the only reason i didn't vote tofu was the votecount was all confused -_- palmar and i would have 100% voted ft to save scott Literally right off the last page. COME ON. | ||
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Read. Fucking seriously. | ||
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On August 11 2015 06:40 rsoultin wrote: and not during the night phase you shot him i was your top supporter you filthy liar zzzz I was talking about Gb in my final line, NOT Palmar. But thanks for the misrep I suppose. | ||
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On August 11 2015 06:41 Onegu wrote: No he doesnt his last post is lynch into Rsoul/GB/OWS And on the previous page he is much harder scum reading you over rsoul.. He said his whole reread was useless and it led to nothing. COME ON. | ||
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On August 11 2015 06:41 rsoultin wrote: lol not a lie the context you so cleverly omitted: if you'd tried to convince KSC to lynch scott it is clear by my posting and palmar's that we'd vote ft zzzzz Except you claimed that you couldn't, so even if scott was on the line the exact same thing would have happened and made it look infinitely worse. Nice try. | ||
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On August 11 2015 06:43 Onegu wrote: Yeah and that means he keeps his previous reads which was scum reading you. The night he was shot he never town read you. That's bullshit and you know it. If he scumread me he would have pushed me, but he changed his mind. | ||
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On August 11 2015 06:44 rsoultin wrote: lol you mean a last minute mass switch to scott? you think in shenanigans i don't? lol you're cute cause YOU CLAIMED that you would have tried to CONVINCE KSC which would have happened well before last minute EoD I don't think you understand how shenannies work. Nor do I think you understand what a "mass switch" is, especially in regards to scott only needing 2 votes (mine and ksc's, who was totally willing to switch) meaning the exact opposite of a mass switch. | ||
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On August 11 2015 06:46 rsoultin wrote: the reason to shoot gb for a scum obi is obvious xP gb fluctuates like the wind onegu says he always lynches rsoul 100% there you think it's safe to keep us in lylo together you were just RSOUL'D lolol >< boom! Lmfao no it fucking doesn't. I shoot the guy who supports me over the person who does a 180 and decides that I'm last scum and gives a dying wish to have me lynched? What a joke. | ||
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On August 11 2015 06:48 Onegu wrote: Then what is rsouls reason to shoot GB? To have me lynched? Look at what's fucking happening RIGHT NOW. TTHINK. | ||
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On August 11 2015 06:50 rsoultin wrote: lol yeah i take oneg with me to lylo when he's saying he's gonna 100% lynch me i'm a masochistic moron with a death wish tryyyyy agaaaaiiiiiin lol as if a statement made days upon days ago based on absolutely nothing would be direction for a night kill. So much reachyness. | ||
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On August 11 2015 06:51 Onegu wrote: I just said it the night gb was killed... What you said isn't exactly relevant. RSO has been planning this push since beforehand. REALISTICALLY, how would you actually have voted her today? | ||
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On August 11 2015 06:50 ObiWanShinobi wrote: lol as if a statement made days upon days ago based on absolutely nothing would be direction for a night kill. So much reachyness. Read. Onegu everything you're saying is, like, 345729% wifom and is completely useless. | ||
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Sure, but that's not enough to direct a nightkill and you fucking know it. | ||
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I don't know what I'm supposed to say here to make you not vote me and it's really lame, because I can't control night kills or do anything about that kind of stuff. >:| | ||
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On August 11 2015 06:54 rsoultin wrote: -snorts- REALISTICALLY if i were planning a push, i kill oneg and bring gb the wifom it is real ^^ Gb was my top supporter. Also doesn't make sense. | ||
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On August 11 2015 06:56 Onegu wrote: IF you are town this is all on me... SERIOUSLY? | ||
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SWITCH BACK ONE MINUTE COME ON WE CAN STILL WIN | ||
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Though I guess I lasted a long time as confirmed mafia. So that's something. | ||
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On August 11 2015 07:03 LightningStrike wrote: Lol that switch in the last half hour of the game was funny but good for town to win ^_^ Funny for you guys maybe. | ||
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Palmar was not. You know something is fucked when your idea of winning consists of "lynch the green check, THEN lynch the roleclaim in lylo to win." | ||
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