EPTRight now I feel like the vote-count is just floating out there somewhere in the void and I have no overview over who voted for who in what order.
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ruXxar
Norway5669 Posts
Right now I feel like the vote-count is just floating out there somewhere in the void and I have no overview over who voted for who in what order. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
On July 24 2015 21:19 LightningStrike wrote: Also you can find the vote count here with a 15 minute delay Here. your link does not work LS. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
honest question | ||
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ruXxar
Norway5669 Posts
Who's pushing barakos, and who's defending barakos? Like, barakos post was genuinely bad. I can't remember a single person that actually said they liked his post, so one could say that yeah, town picks up on that and calls it bad. It's also a really easy lynch-bait for mafia, so mafia should be all over that post. I'm certain that if barakos gets voted off there are mafia in the vote. Mafia wants to blend in and follow thread sentiment, they don't want to be the first people to stick their heads out, because that will reflect badly on them when their lynch target flips town. If barakos is mafia, do you think mafia busses from day 1? I don't think so, so who's actually trying to defend barakos? Apparantly no-one. And that is what bothers me about this push so far. No one has tried to actually seriously start a train on someone else. It's going to smooth, no one speaking up in defense. If I was to judge the people closest to defending barakos today it would be n00bking, which wasn't really even a defense, he just wanted to lynch him for the right reasons. The longer this goes without any resistance arising makes me think barakos is town regardless of if what he's said is all BS. Either that or his mafia team is a bunch of newbies that are afraid to go against thread sentiment. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
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ruXxar
Norway5669 Posts
On July 25 2015 22:42 raynpelikoneet wrote: ruxxar do you seriously believe i am mafia? honest question I don't generally believe in scumslips, but I am curious how you can say with absolute certainty that me and moosy are both town. Not lynching you today regardless. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
On July 25 2015 22:52 ruXxar wrote: I don't generally believe in scumslips, but I am curious how you can say with absolute certainty that me and moosy are both town. Not lynching you today regardless. Because you are. It is quite obvious. Well said bro, your vote is still on me, and you just camplained about the lynch, so can you now push someone then as you seem to be thinking Barakos is not mafia and this lynch is bad? | ||
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ruXxar
Norway5669 Posts
On July 25 2015 22:49 raynpelikoneet wrote: how about you push something then? I already did. I'm fine with either a moosy or barakos lynch today. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
On July 25 2015 22:58 ruXxar wrote: I already did. I'm fine with either a moosy or barakos lynch today. I am a bit puzzled how you are pushing a lynch when your vote is on someone you don't even want to lynch. I am starting to agree with Moosy you are probably just dumb. | ||
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Rels
France13467 Posts
Now working! On July 25 2015 22:46 ruXxar wrote: The longer this goes without any resistance arising makes me think barakos is town regardless of if what he's said is all BS. Either that or his mafia team is a bunch of newbies that are afraid to go against thread sentiment. I get your feeling because I had the exact same one in the last game I played (HF game). Turns out the lynch was mafia, but yeah too-easy lynches are weird. See the vote count though; only 5 votes on Barakos now. | ||
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ruXxar
Norway5669 Posts
On July 25 2015 22:57 raynpelikoneet wrote: Because you are. It is quite obvious. Well said bro, your vote is still on me, and you just camplained about the lynch, so can you now push someone then as you seem to be thinking Barakos is not mafia and this lynch is bad? I didn't spell your name right so the vote doesn't count. And I don't think the lynch is bad, even if he's town and dies it's an interesting observation to see the dynamic around his lynch. I'm not going to defend his posts because there's nothing to defend. I don't like them. I'll wait until a bit later to see if mafia tries some emergency hardcore push to get votes of barakos. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
Himalayas was a game i actually followed from the beginning to the end and when bugs replaced out he was one of my strongest townreads. When you get into the game i was like "yeah this ruxxar dude is definitely mafia because he is making sense but not really saying/doing anything". I also read Gaiden to some extent, and to be honest i thought you were town because from the beginning rsoultin was screaming red to me, apparently i read you town for your bus, as i only read your posts from something like D4 (when you were double bussing). I also think i read a start of some game you were town in and the difference of your town/scum play is like a fucking day and night. Anyways, you aren't making any sense so it probably makes you town. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
Like who the hell says "please do not try to read into why people say the stuff they do". rofl. Worst post i have ever read i any game of mafia. But it doesn't make him mafia, especially when he actually follows his dumb narrative which makes him... tunnel the people he knows and doesn't like. dumb, but not scum. so yeah, you are both town. | ||
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ruXxar
Norway5669 Posts
On July 25 2015 23:01 Rels wrote: Now working! I get your feeling because I had the exact same one in the last game I played (HF game). Turns out the lynch was mafia, but yeah too-easy lynches are weird. See the vote count though; only 5 votes on Barakos now. I think back to our newbie game when we lynched scott. It's like, we went the whole 2 days and no one even tried to start a second train. He just got lynched with all the votes on him and everyone was happy twiddling their thumbs. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
barakos (6): raynpelikoneet, disformation, Breshke, Sulfurus, Rels, Damdred (misformated) moosydoosy (1): Tictock rels (1): n00bKing rayn (1): ruXxar so none of my scumreads are on the lynch i am pushing (except for maybe Sulfurus but i am back to thinking he is town). I am fairly certain Flexes is mafia aswell. Another player i think is scum is Tictock. And he is ACTUALLY pushing something else (Moosy). It doesn't make any sense for him to disagree with the case AND to think i am mafia when he does never address my case at all. Also his reasoning for thinking i am mafia is terrible and has no substance. Like 2/4 of the reasons aren't even reasons that can possibly make someone scum. "you post much, therefore you are mafia". Does that seem like a reasonable read? | ||
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ruXxar
Norway5669 Posts
On July 25 2015 23:03 raynpelikoneet wrote: Like you are one of the few players i know who just makes 1000x more sense as mafia then they do as town. Himalayas was a game i actually followed from the beginning to the end and when bugs replaced out he was one of my strongest townreads. When you get into the game i was like "yeah this ruxxar dude is definitely mafia because he is making sense but not really saying/doing anything". I also read Gaiden to some extent, and to be honest i thought you were town because from the beginning rsoultin was screaming red to me, apparently i read you town for your bus, as i only read your posts from something like D4 (when you were double bussing). I also think i read a start of some game you were town in and the difference of your town/scum play is like a fucking day and night. Anyways, you aren't making any sense so it probably makes you town. This is why I think moosy is mafia. The way he was so confident brimming with information about my meta when he was talking to breshke sounded to me like someone with perfect information just packing on excuses for why he's right and you're wrong. Like seriously, these 2 early posts by moosy are just so damn weird in my mind. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=24594514 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=24594619 | ||
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ruXxar
Norway5669 Posts
##Unvote ##Vote MoosyDoosy | ||
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ruXxar
Norway5669 Posts
On July 25 2015 23:10 raynpelikoneet wrote: Current Day Votecount barakos (6): raynpelikoneet, disformation, Breshke, Sulfurus, Rels, Damdred (misformated) moosydoosy (1): Tictock rels (1): n00bKing rayn (1): ruXxar so none of my scumreads are on the lynch i am pushing (except for maybe Sulfurus but i am back to thinking he is town). I am fairly certain Flexes is mafia aswell. Another player i think is scum is Tictock. And he is ACTUALLY pushing something else (Moosy). It doesn't make any sense for him to disagree with the case AND to think i am mafia when he does never address my case at all. Also his reasoning for thinking i am mafia is terrible and has no substance. Like 2/4 of the reasons aren't even reasons that can possibly make someone scum. "you post much, therefore you are mafia". Does that seem like a reasonable read? There's no way Rayn and Barakos are mafia together. If barakos flips scum you are confirmed town in my eyes. If you did a play bussing your partner here then congratulations, you've broken all my preconceptions of how scum play. | ||
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LightningStrike
United States14277 Posts
barakos (6): raynpelikoneet, disformation, Breshke, Sulfurus, Rels, Damdred moosydoosy (2): rels (1): n00bKing rayn (0): ruxxar (0): nocturnemage (0): Not voting(4): MoosyDoosy, Barakos, NocturneMage, Flexes Barakos is set to be lynched! You got until 22:00 GMT (+00:00) tonight to vote! The new link for the delayed vote count is Here! Also make sure you spell the name of the person you voting correctly please! | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
On July 25 2015 23:12 ruXxar wrote: This is why I think moosy is mafia. The way he was so confident brimming with information about my meta when he was talking to breshke sounded to me like someone with perfect information just packing on excuses for why he's right and you're wrong. Like seriously, these 2 early posts by moosy are just so damn weird in my mind. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=24594514 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=24594619 I do not see anything weird in that. In mafia you are supposed to shut down cases you think are bad. Because if you don't, dumb people / scum can believe (or "believe") a bad case. It's not once or twice when people get lynched for stupid shit, for no apparent reason, when everyone is just afraid to go against the read for whatever reason. He is basically saying "ruxxar being stupid does not make him mafia - go do something else". He is reasonably explaining why he thinks so. There is nothing wrong in that. There is no contradiction. Basically the whole post makes sense if you put yourself into his mindset and consider the fact he actually believes what he says. Because i am pretty sure he does. Furthermore the rest of his play on this D1 - while being extremely unhelpful imo - follows this very same mindset. It is extremely unlike Moosy is mafia because of the above. | ||
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