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On June 30 2015 00:28 marvellosity wrote: it can always be much much harder. Especially when nurses outfits are involved. *exasperated sigh* Marv if you don't play (and I roll town for a change) I expect coachies. Maybe that can serve as your incentive to play :D | ||
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On June 30 2015 05:02 geript wrote: Nice... and I was about to promise a series of naughty nurse pictures for as long as I was alive (and you were alive) in the game. Now I get to save that for another game. I await PMs. | ||
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You're a newbie compared to old man oats He is the wisest of us all | ||
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What about you, honey bunny? | ||
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On July 06 2015 08:12 ruXxar wrote: Top town at this point is damdred and Scott. #BatTraps. Fucking lol | ||
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On July 06 2015 08:15 rsoultin wrote: it's cool i'm the trfel whisperer xP just sheep me whenever he gets his ass back to the thread and actually starts posting lol >< he always pre-writes his entrances before his role pm like a pussy I dare you to say you can still read trfel after we destroyed town that other game. Me on the other hand... In other news clarity tryhard as fuck, probably town. | ||
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On July 06 2015 09:14 Holyflare wrote: Player List 1) Marvellosity 2) Scott31337 3) WaveofShadow (filter) 4) Clarity_nl (filter) 5) ruXxar (filter) <--- pretty sure 12) Trfel (filter) 16) KelsierSC (filter) 20) Damdred (filter) 21) rsoultin (filter) 24) Holyflare (filter) You're just mad 'cuz u bad | ||
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On July 06 2015 09:30 ritoky wrote: Over-emphasized defense at this point in the game. In the event geript ever flips mafia, WoS is likely town cuz blatant attempted pocket/spew. Actually given our usual interactions, for either one of us to pocket the other is impossible. | ||
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Rsoul and Breshke town I think. | ||
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If I remember about it right you're town. I think I actually try your 'PoE' townread thing from last game since my scunreads are super shit and I still haven't had a chance to get marvcoaching | ||
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On July 06 2015 09:48 geript wrote: Idk Wubby. I don't really keep track of what I do. Yeah I can't fucking find it so I'm either going crazy or remembering someone else or a different situation I'm still gonna say you're town 'cause its easier | ||
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On July 06 2015 10:59 Holyflare wrote: so gonna explain your clarity statement wave? Narp The effort feels towny | ||
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On July 06 2015 11:06 KelsierSC wrote: im basically not sure i believe your LS read anymore and anything connected to LS is always slightly aids so im looking at your rs read and it doesnt feel as good im not 100% i just dont like you in my gut i guess it dpeends what ls does I gotta say I like you immensely better than our first game together I think you've learned the cancer ways of TL Mafia pretty well | ||
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On July 06 2015 11:11 Holyflare wrote: exactly, explain it, what effort because he did 0 effort I disagree | ||
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On July 06 2015 11:13 KelsierSC wrote: but im calling you mafia here and i called you mafia our first game siow what do? You are? And me not liking your play our first game had nothing to do with you calling me scum IIRC, it was that no-nonsense rigidity I think? You seem to have plenty of room for fun these days. Why am I scum? Sheep read? | ||
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On July 06 2015 12:27 ruXxar wrote: Zzz wrong. I like your approach of coming out early and giving out reads with a quote for context. It's a pretty big step up for you compared to our last game where you threw out names with nothing at all. lolwut That's exactly what he just did | ||
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On July 06 2015 12:35 geript wrote: lynch the fuck out of oats. he's definitely not town. He just played exactly this way last game as town Not seeing what ruxxar is or what you are | ||
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Nobody actually does that | ||
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On July 06 2015 12:55 ruXxar wrote: It's kinda like avoiding the topic though. If someone asks you why you said something and your response is "I wouldn't say that as mafia", then that seems more like a last line of defense rather than explaining why you actually said something. There's a difference between saying 'I wouldn't do this as mafia' and 'mafia wouldn't do this' in general. One is self meta and super shit. One is actually attempting to think. reading his post I actually don't think I know which that is | ||
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On July 06 2015 13:03 ruXxar wrote: Do you find it strange that he's scum reading you for town reading him? Not particularly | ||
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On July 07 2015 00:16 geript wrote: First off, that's one word dumbass. Second the word investigator means nothing to me. It shouldn't to anyone. It's fucking stupid. Roles are listed in the op. I fucking busted out laughing in the doctors office and now people are staring at me The XP analysis Oh man Best thread NA/EU/singapore? | ||
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On July 07 2015 01:46 Holyflare wrote: LS, i'm holding you to a high standard this game. You need to make it up to everyone after last game anyway apparently. SO, tell me all of your reads and why you think them and how things are going down. Lol you're such a dick | ||
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On July 07 2015 02:27 LightningStrike wrote: You prob didn't see how hard I threw at LYLO in my last game as town..... I did He was the scum that caused you to throw so calling you out for something he caused makes him a dick | ||
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marv who do I vote for? Ritoky? Why? | ||
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lol not voting him. Especially because dick move analysis hits a strong chord with me here. Is he seriously going to be lynched? That doesn't make a lot of sense to me at all. | ||
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On July 08 2015 01:34 marvellosity wrote: there is nothing to do dick move analysis on. Of course there is. On July 07 2015 04:17 ritoky wrote: It is majority lynch, halfway to a majority; no point in risking it. I am a low priority rb/nk at this point so bullets and abilities wasted on me is as beneficial to the town as a check. Plus pregnant wife close to giving birth and not caring about wanting to defend myself. | ||
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I also don't see why the fuck scum claims cop that early in a day. That's town lynch paranoia imo. | ||
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On July 08 2015 01:37 Oatsmaster wrote: WHAT RISK IS THERE? HOW IS THAT NOT A SCUMSLIP. Wave, how is that being a dick? DMA is referring to something people use in game to defend themselves that after the game if they were scum you'd say to them that they were a dick for using it. Usually refers to when people use the host somehow to 'confirm' themselves but can be applied to other situations as well. | ||
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On July 08 2015 01:39 marvellosity wrote: you obviously have no idea how it can/should be applied, Wave. Leave my concept alone lol fuck you, you know very well I came up with that as well. By all means explain to me how it should be applied then. Either way I'm not voting him. Anyone else worthy of note? | ||
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On July 08 2015 01:40 Oatsmaster wrote: So BH posting pictures of him moving is him being a dick? Depends honestly. I personally don't think so because BH is already known for doing things like that (also 'cause BH is already known as a little bit of a dick at times :D :D ) I mean maybe I'm biased 'cause I was scum wtih him at the time lol | ||
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Miller claim---pretty meaningless, unless she has done it as scum before in which case I'd already be wary. Um...I dunno. She's pretty posty and looks like she's doing stuff. She's also not doing in a Trfel-scum-drive-by-analysis sort of way where she actually converses with people so I dunno. Again what are people scumreading her for? Random list posts every so often are kidna bleh but then again she doesn't look as though she's attempting just to create content for the sake of it? She tosses a lot of names into the mix as 'people I have to look at' (including me apparently?) and people she's sort of consistnently pushing like milo/ritoky (which is assumedly who everyone else wants to lynch too?) but not unbelievably hard? I dunno, I mean it could be mafia coasting on not-real activity but that doesn't seem obvious to me in any way. | ||
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On July 06 2015 12:07 milo109 wrote: I hate townreads like this. If he was mafia, you're telling him by continuing to be determined, you will read him town. Silly for town to do. This is a decent post I think. On July 07 2015 10:14 milo109 wrote: Okay. Reading rsoultin's filter and... does he always play with an smiley-face/lol in almost every post? It's rubbing me the wrong way. Was this one before or after the absolutely ridiculous xP debacle? He explained his earlier no-reason reads which was fine. On July 07 2015 11:37 milo109 wrote: Meh. I think LS is a better lynch. Your case is unconvincing. This post is an odd one---on one hand I get where he is coming from on LS from the posts he linked before, but he goes from 0-60 on it real fast. Oh that's in response to people telling him to lynch Trfel apparently. I think that's a little odd but then he explains why he thinks so after which is fine. I think what's after it might be worse where he looks like he's hunting for a reason to drop LS as a scumread which he probably could have figured out before from that reasoning. I guess of all the people I've read he looks the worst so if that's who we consolidate on I'm fine with it. | ||
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On July 08 2015 02:02 Harkon wrote: So, Wave is there anyone you actually want to lynch or is everyone just town? Well considering I've only read about half the thread and even on a day where I dive through everyone's filters on D1 I can't find a scumread, I think everyone is just town. | ||
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So.....town | ||
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On July 08 2015 02:33 Holyflare wrote: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/488082-tl-mafia-lxxi-gaiden?page=111#2208 read all the nested stuff Is meta the only way to catch her then? Because on its own you can't very well say her posting has been overly scummy. | ||
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On July 08 2015 02:36 Holyflare wrote: where do I say it's meta? All of the reasons for scum reading her are based on this game entirely, the meta is purely to back up the fact that this isn't towny behaviour. It's pretty disingenuous to say it isn't towny behaviour. There are plenty of townies who post like this without coming with conclusions or pushing harder. Like, I admit it very well could be scummy behaviour but I don't feel it strongly. | ||
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On July 08 2015 02:37 Holyflare wrote: The first nested case is quality this game posting of a thought process she can't possibly follow. It's great. lol I disagree, that's you being overly sensitive to when people call you scum. You do that shit all the time. As either alignment. Contradiction is not a scumtell either. | ||
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On July 08 2015 02:41 Half the Sky wrote: Also for BF and WoS, the meta comparison to my last game is flawed. 1 I play/approach large games differently than I do minis as either alignment so comparing this game to Not Themed is really weak 2 I have pushed two players (HF can believe whatever he wants to believe on this point, I've again demonstrably shown it) this game so far which happen to be two (now one apparently) of the same players that HF is pushing 3 Large games mean I take more time looking at more people, since it's pretty easy for scummers to skate by. I can see how people can see that as scummy but when necessary I will consolidate on people (and will do now, seeing as people are voting ritoky) that I am finding scummy. This is kind of weird. I don't know if I've ever heard anyone say that before. I'm not really considering meta anyway especially when I have little to no experience with you. | ||
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I like MZ better anyway | ||
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On July 09 2015 09:54 Clarity_nl wrote: Eh this isn't true actually. NVM. Looks like milo is gonna take his time, I'm going to bed. WoS would be cool if you could shared some reads and such. I had a few I thought of earlier but now I forget them. Gimme a bit I guess. I'm totally not feeling this game Somebody vig me lol | ||
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Most of all he's likely town simply because he doesn't act/play this terribly as scum. brb | ||
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On July 09 2015 10:25 Breshke wrote: I knew you roleread him haha WOS, HTS and rsoul and anyone else that is around whats your reads on EBH He named 3 people (KSC, OWS and myself) before and asked people opinions on them. I assume this is because he scumleans on us or w/e which i find odd because those two are some of my top townreads. He also complains about people not putting effort into the game when he does nothing himself which isn't alignment indicative just irritating. I mean I've been skating (u gotta sk8) but for him to assume he's done anything but is silly. There's some odd stuff in his filter to be sure (open 'bluehunting,' trying to steer active and useful conversation, his most recent 'KP-carrying' post) but I can't be certain it's mafia indicative necessarily. The worst thing about what you mentioned Breshke is that he asks for opinions without giving any concrete thoughts himself which reeks of fishing for thread sentiment. Could be scum I suppose. | ||
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Doesn't feel like same rsoul who I pocketed via arguments in whatever game that as. Also maybe HF 'cause HF | ||
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Totally would have won that game if I didn't let yamato convince me to shoot you | ||
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It's been a few days. | ||
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K back to the abyss | ||
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Can you direct me to something/somewhere specific while I still have a shred of motivation? | ||
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On July 12 2015 13:03 rsoultin wrote: mmm geript and mz both gave some legacy posts as people to look into there's milo who we're probably lynching today because of damdy flipping roleblocker after being tracked to rit...like he's not really being that clear about why he changed his stance on rit and yeah lol you could read my exchange with ruxxar earlier if you wanted but frankly i didn't really get anything out of it so i'm not sure if anyone else could either >< So is there a particular reason we don't want to trust the cop claim then? | ||
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Actually on that note are there people who think I'm town for the same thing? I dunno if there's anything to learn on that. Wish I had TL+ so I could just 'all' the whole thread and look up my name | ||
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On July 12 2015 13:12 rsoultin wrote: other than milo attempting to get lynched before damdy despite geript's track and the small likelihood of scum having two roleblockers, not to mention what i already mentioned about his odd switch from scumreading rit after rit's cop claim to saying they both could be cops once he'd claimed himself? no xP nothing I'm not sure why the last part is weird. As I remember it milo said something about what ritoky said or phrasing made him change his mind? And what do you mean 'attempting to get lynched?' Like scum trying to save the roleblocker? I can't honestly think of a scenario where I've seen that happen. | ||
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On July 12 2015 13:13 rsoultin wrote: lots saying you're town for it i've waffled on both sides -_- but yeah. not sure why any of it matters given there was nothing to read lol >< lol which is why I suggested the vig but apparently MZ was higher priority? meh. | ||
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On July 12 2015 13:16 Half the Sky wrote: I do. I checked your meta against NSM11 and queried the thread - both Marv and OWS said that the town read based on your meta was reasonable so I am subscribing to that at the moment. Your meta could be easily faked (I think it was BF who said that??? but don't quote me and I can see where he's coming from with that) but right now I am townreading both of those two. I mean, marv once said he could read me on meta but I don't know that he actually can. And I dunno when OWS became the authority on me. I'm curious though, what did YOU find in my meta? I believe I had a townread on you earlier and I believe you claimed the shot on MZ (LS gun, yes?) so I kind of want to see how you went about doing that. | ||
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On July 12 2015 13:13 Half the Sky wrote: That was one thing in the back of my mind. MZ was one of them but so was Damdred lol. I think Vivax was too but now he's trying to go after Trfel. He had you on top lynches for awhile. Is that incongruent with what you'd expect from town Vivax? BF also had you and wanted to lynch you, this is his.....4th game I think? I don't think he's had any exposure to you. Also I'm looking into Kelsier. Ritoky and others brought up how he's fallen off but there was something else too. Related to you, he said he liked (earlier) Clarity's (scum?) read on WoS yet scumread Damdred for his push on WoS so that was something that drew some attention there. Looking through earlier his filter (doublechecking the order in which tings happened) he's saying he's scumreading you for posts where you shouldn't have TRed Clarity early on. I'm trying to piece all that together atm... I think I would expect that from town Vivax actually. No idea on BF. The fact that both Damdred and MZ did it though probably means a read into it is useless though. Unless the strength of their pushing was different I suppose...? | ||
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On July 12 2015 13:35 Half the Sky wrote: WoS, clarity I had a townread on given a lot of his conversation throughout the thread, but is there any reason (his last post on you, two days ago, his filter after this post is just mostly talking about milo and then he's AFKed til Monday for RL reasons) This was just prior to Damdred's lynch and then the milo talk was during nightphase. Question is, clarity is within expectations here? Not sure. I gave him a super early townread ages ago but I can't say I can meta him particularly well. I assume you mean meta again when you ask if he's 'within expectations?' | ||
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I've played with Vivax more often and more recently than clarity. I don't think I'd base reads purely on meta anyway normally, but anything goes this game. I don't even know though what you'd expect me to say about this post as it pertains to clarity's meta (or anyone else's for taht matter). | ||
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Scott's filter seems pretty similar to the last student game when I skimmed it | ||
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I started out this game generally not caring but now it's gone sort of beyond that, whatever that is. Not gonna make any excuses. For what it's worth I'm sorry. | ||
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On July 15 2015 02:03 Holyflare wrote: Kelsier already flipped mafia though? You're so annoying. | ||
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Day 4? Check. HF still alive? Check. | ||
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On July 17 2015 04:07 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Vivax, can you do something towny for me? Pretty please? Vivax is pretty town from the last couple pages alone. I think. Mirrored my thoughts on the lynch exactly. | ||
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On July 17 2015 04:29 ObiWanShinobi wrote: That doesn't really make me feel much better considering you've been inactive and apathetic all game. Why should I trust you? You shouldn't. Told you guys to vig me ages ago. Out for a while. | ||
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On July 20 2015 05:05 ObiWanShinobi wrote: My logic is this: How do we look past Wave in lylo/mylo if he continues to be a lurky nonentity? I've said this like 50 times and the game is already 400+ pages. I shouldn't have to repeat it but I probably will because nobody seems to understand the concept of not posting every single fucking thing that comes to mind. For somebody pushing me so hard, I wonder why you haven't voted for me yet. For everyone else, ebh or rsoul? | ||
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On July 23 2015 11:10 Holyflare wrote: No it's not really diminished. I'm not saying she didn't get lynched because she's a woman or whatever like va said vut there are a lot of good points that get swept under the rug due to relations outside the game etc etc. And no i just hate all of you equally This is what's important to get out of the argument imo And we should be careful not to let this devolve if the conversation continues because it has the potential to. | ||
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On July 23 2015 11:11 Blazinghand wrote: WoS scum MVP btw I'll say this much as I said it to multiple people during the game. I had every intention at the start of this game to 'actively lurk,' but I didn't intend it to be for the reasons I did, nor to the extent that I did. And I would not have been able to do so or survive were it not for my teammates so I'm not willing to take credit/MVP status. I will take credit for organizing NKs though 'cause it's probably the best part of my scumgame :D | ||
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