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On July 20 2015 00:26 Clarity_nl wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2015 00:25 Oatsmaster wrote:On July 20 2015 00:25 Clarity_nl wrote:On July 20 2015 00:24 Oatsmaster wrote:On July 20 2015 00:22 Clarity_nl wrote:
I think HtS is town. She could have easily parked her vote and said she's too busy, take 30 minutes and pretend to do work and then bugger off, but she's still here trying to solve the game. She set it up perfectly for her to just afk today, and she didn't. This would only make sense if ruxxar was her scum partner but since I don't think ruxxar is scum, that makes hts town.
I'm willing to consolidate on EBH as I definitely prefer it over rsoultin at the moment. I'm hoping hts can get her shit together and get a concrete read on rsoultin before the end of n5. How did she set it up to afk? No, this read is complete bullshit. Why wont you try and mislead town in a very very very important lynch? Why would you bugger off and let town possibly lynch mafia? She's mentioned like 50 times that she's going to be less active starting d5 (or n4 or something) And this is alignment indicative? WHEN SHE SAYS I CANT BE AROUND AND THEN PUTS IN A TON OF EFFORT YES I'D SAY SO.
Why?
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You have never seen mafia players be active and put in effort in an important part of the game before?
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On July 20 2015 00:25 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2015 00:23 Clarity_nl wrote:On July 20 2015 00:20 rsoultin wrote:
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yeah i'm just going to pretend that i haven't asked for a clear explanation of why people are townreading bf half a dozen times ^^ HtS is right, bf's filter in NSM10 is completely different compared to here. He didn't tunnel, and he had long reasonable posts, the opposite of this game. quote the long reasonable posts? like i said i can't get past the first page -_- it's like reading sicklucker for me
+ Show Spoiler +On May 27 2015 05:26 boxerfred wrote:Show nested quote +On May 27 2015 04:29 Tictock wrote:
@27nb
What do you think about my last post regarding plots?
I agree about BF, he seems to be sheeping the popular opinion today. I also really don't like him looking for masons. Like he seems to be thinking it would help town to know who is masons so we have more confirmed town. Yet his possible masons are all people largely being townread, so how is that thinking helpful?
Which is wrong, I already pushed disinformation which was not popular at all, starting EoN. Also, I explained thoroughly why I voted for Sicklucker. Then, being sick of the SK discussion, I voted on bunnies without having my own follow up on other people's read. Can't do much about you not liking me trying to identify masons. I feel like with one scum member down, a mislynch becomes very possible. So I really want to gain any information I can get on who is most likely a town member. You are generalizing the mason thing, thus leaning me towards scum. Do you have any more reasons to do so beyond the ones I already replied to with this post? Why are you holding me scum for apparently sheeping a popular vote when you are not doing the same for disformation, who still has to reply to some pressure and changed his pushing pattern from day 1 to a lurker pattern today? He already admitted to rather accept a random coinflip then potentially(! note, potentially. chances were not above 50% in my opinion) having a train on himself? Please explain that. Gonna skim through your posts later. I'm reading you town but I didn't pay too much attention on your posts alone yet. On May 27 2015 22:40 boxerfred wrote:Show nested quote +On May 27 2015 22:23 Tictock wrote:
@BF
The whole SK thing was some tinfoil hat theory that I liked too much and took seriously. I suggest we go back to ignoring it until we at least find more scum.
I get your thinking on Dis, but to me that's just a sign on him being a new player and not being sure of his own reads. You could probably make this argument about me, but I like pushing what I see pretty hard.
Lets for a moment put aside our thoughts about Dis and SL.
Who are you fairly confident is town?
Where do you think we should look for scum in our shortening list of players? I wouldn't put that aside as fast as you do it. Changing a posting pattern is a serious thing. I get your "he's new" approach but I think you forget that dis is very conscious of posting patterns, he mentioned my pattern in a post. He must know that posting patterns are quite telly and he even took it in account when he was pushing me. So I at least want to know why his pattern changed so much. Any info, disinfo? I am fairly confident that Breshke is town. Can't tell for sure of course but his posts are very reasonable. He's taking his time to argue and he's very fair towards people, decently pushing at the same time though. I held batsnacks for town (also because he read me town basically all the time) but that might just be him pocketing me. I don't have a read on you, tictock, and feel like you should be under some more pressure or at least give some info on what your current reads are, now that BM flipped coin. I think putting SL aside at least until EoN is a good thing. We have no new clues thus far and he's fairly active, arguing in a weird but relatively reasonal way. Seems to have stopped yolo'ing. On May 29 2015 01:44 boxerfred wrote:Show nested quote +On May 28 2015 10:13 disformation wrote:
Okay folks. Let me solve this stuff...
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boxerfred: I remember you getting pretty angry when I called out your bad D1 voting behaviour. Hit a nerve?
] You pointed that out being a "Critical question", so let me answer: hell yes! You went at me pretty hard on D1 already and I defended myself without trying to get rid of any attention. I tried to simply stand there, let you fire at me and reply with "Well bro, I'm not a scum member. Since I (at this point) am not too sure about others, I'll just try to defend without damaging anyone else". In contrary to you: you freely admitted that you'd rather have a coinflip vote than the unlikely chance of getting bussed. When I decided to pressure you, I basically wanted to poke you to see if you'd change something once you're under pressure yourself. Well you did: your D2 pattern was lurky as fuck, and look what you do this day, now that town's chances are better than ever: short posts. Besides one (solid and well written) post, all you do is oneliners and following other guy's theories, without putting yourself too much in the line of fire. You accomplished to never be in danger of being voted since D1. Still hold you for town however. Tried really hard to find something besides your posting pattern that would justify a push on you, however I cannot. On May 29 2015 07:33 boxerfred wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2015 07:11 Tictock wrote:
I'm a little on the fence about BF's rapid fire posting on page 83. There is a lot of stuff being said but I'm not sure how many real points of deeper thought I can see, it's more like hes just reacting. That's NAI, I'm just having a hard time reading through it kus it's a bit all over the place.
@ BF
You mention you brought up questions you wanted answered. I feel like i lost them in your like 20 post spam. Can you restate please?
I also want to remind you that while i for a moment considered you and plots as potential scum team, I dismissed it the next post. It was only based on what plots has said, and if he is scum it could have been a move to push you into the limelight after he gets lynched.
I'd also like you to critically look at the 3 claims made today, you've been wanting to do roles stuff for the past few phases, now is your chance. Look through each claim and tell me what makes you think the claim could be legit and what could not be legit. If you need to get more info to reach a conclusion, now is the time to ask. Questions: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/485267-newbie-student-mafia-x?page=83#1642http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/485267-newbie-student-mafia-x?page=83#1654http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/485267-newbie-student-mafia-x?page=83#1652Regarding the reminder: I'm still riding the bunnies/disinformation/plotspots train. I won't get off that train easily. Regarding the three claims: mason claim feels genuine and true, no logical flaws, everything's fine. Cop claim makes sense, too. Good calls, not liking the scum read on Sulfuras but hey that's how it is. The town checks on bunnies and barakos are confusing but would be easily explained with a GF. Can't see a scum lean in Barakos, that would leave it to bunnies. The Plotspots claim is weak because Barakos revealed that he was blocked before plots revealed his role. Then, plots went full yolo. So: strong claim on mason (which I support), okay(tendence to strong) claim on cop, weak claim on RB. I note by now that a lurky tactic is far better then really explaining what you are thinking. Dis, bunnies, barakos and sulf do a great job with that thus far.
Notice the completely different tone as well??
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On July 20 2015 00:21 Oatsmaster wrote:
Who are those people?
What exactly do you mean by wary?
Why is it scummy in this situation to push someone you think is town? Im sure you think rux is town too, why arent the people on rux scummy?
EBH, I had thought Ras wanted to lynch BF until the mini discussion we had on him and I THINK one other person mentioned him but at the very least it's another point against EBH.
Oats I say wary because I think scum if any there will go for the easy lynch.
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On July 20 2015 00:28 Half the Sky wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2015 00:21 Oatsmaster wrote:
Who are those people?
What exactly do you mean by wary?
Why is it scummy in this situation to push someone you think is town? Im sure you think rux is town too, why arent the people on rux scummy?
EBH, I had thought Ras wanted to lynch BF until the mini discussion we had on him and I THINK one other person mentioned him but at the very least it's another point against EBH. Oats I say wary because I think scum if any there will go for the easy lynch.
How exactly is bf an easy lynch?
Pretty much everyone was calling him town during the night except like ebh who has no pull and rsoul who also has no pull.
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Oats off hand the people that had their votes on ruXxar were Clarity Ras Trfel and myself at some point.
I think Clarity based on the comp cases/associations could be Mafia, I don't think Trfel is and I need to get through the rest of Ras's filter and HFs case on her.
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On July 20 2015 00:28 Clarity_nl wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2015 00:25 rsoultin wrote:On July 20 2015 00:23 Clarity_nl wrote:On July 20 2015 00:20 rsoultin wrote:
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yeah i'm just going to pretend that i haven't asked for a clear explanation of why people are townreading bf half a dozen times ^^ HtS is right, bf's filter in NSM10 is completely different compared to here. He didn't tunnel, and he had long reasonable posts, the opposite of this game. quote the long reasonable posts? like i said i can't get past the first page -_- it's like reading sicklucker for me + Show Spoiler +On May 27 2015 05:26 boxerfred wrote:Show nested quote +On May 27 2015 04:29 Tictock wrote:
@27nb
What do you think about my last post regarding plots?
I agree about BF, he seems to be sheeping the popular opinion today. I also really don't like him looking for masons. Like he seems to be thinking it would help town to know who is masons so we have more confirmed town. Yet his possible masons are all people largely being townread, so how is that thinking helpful?
Which is wrong, I already pushed disinformation which was not popular at all, starting EoN. Also, I explained thoroughly why I voted for Sicklucker. Then, being sick of the SK discussion, I voted on bunnies without having my own follow up on other people's read. Can't do much about you not liking me trying to identify masons. I feel like with one scum member down, a mislynch becomes very possible. So I really want to gain any information I can get on who is most likely a town member. You are generalizing the mason thing, thus leaning me towards scum. Do you have any more reasons to do so beyond the ones I already replied to with this post? Why are you holding me scum for apparently sheeping a popular vote when you are not doing the same for disformation, who still has to reply to some pressure and changed his pushing pattern from day 1 to a lurker pattern today? He already admitted to rather accept a random coinflip then potentially(! note, potentially. chances were not above 50% in my opinion) having a train on himself? Please explain that. Gonna skim through your posts later. I'm reading you town but I didn't pay too much attention on your posts alone yet. On May 27 2015 22:40 boxerfred wrote:Show nested quote +On May 27 2015 22:23 Tictock wrote:
@BF
The whole SK thing was some tinfoil hat theory that I liked too much and took seriously. I suggest we go back to ignoring it until we at least find more scum.
I get your thinking on Dis, but to me that's just a sign on him being a new player and not being sure of his own reads. You could probably make this argument about me, but I like pushing what I see pretty hard.
Lets for a moment put aside our thoughts about Dis and SL.
Who are you fairly confident is town?
Where do you think we should look for scum in our shortening list of players? I wouldn't put that aside as fast as you do it. Changing a posting pattern is a serious thing. I get your "he's new" approach but I think you forget that dis is very conscious of posting patterns, he mentioned my pattern in a post. He must know that posting patterns are quite telly and he even took it in account when he was pushing me. So I at least want to know why his pattern changed so much. Any info, disinfo? I am fairly confident that Breshke is town. Can't tell for sure of course but his posts are very reasonable. He's taking his time to argue and he's very fair towards people, decently pushing at the same time though. I held batsnacks for town (also because he read me town basically all the time) but that might just be him pocketing me. I don't have a read on you, tictock, and feel like you should be under some more pressure or at least give some info on what your current reads are, now that BM flipped coin. I think putting SL aside at least until EoN is a good thing. We have no new clues thus far and he's fairly active, arguing in a weird but relatively reasonal way. Seems to have stopped yolo'ing. On May 29 2015 01:44 boxerfred wrote:Show nested quote +On May 28 2015 10:13 disformation wrote:
Okay folks. Let me solve this stuff...
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boxerfred: I remember you getting pretty angry when I called out your bad D1 voting behaviour. Hit a nerve?
] You pointed that out being a "Critical question", so let me answer: hell yes! You went at me pretty hard on D1 already and I defended myself without trying to get rid of any attention. I tried to simply stand there, let you fire at me and reply with "Well bro, I'm not a scum member. Since I (at this point) am not too sure about others, I'll just try to defend without damaging anyone else". In contrary to you: you freely admitted that you'd rather have a coinflip vote than the unlikely chance of getting bussed. When I decided to pressure you, I basically wanted to poke you to see if you'd change something once you're under pressure yourself. Well you did: your D2 pattern was lurky as fuck, and look what you do this day, now that town's chances are better than ever: short posts. Besides one (solid and well written) post, all you do is oneliners and following other guy's theories, without putting yourself too much in the line of fire. You accomplished to never be in danger of being voted since D1. Still hold you for town however. Tried really hard to find something besides your posting pattern that would justify a push on you, however I cannot. On May 29 2015 07:33 boxerfred wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2015 07:11 Tictock wrote:
I'm a little on the fence about BF's rapid fire posting on page 83. There is a lot of stuff being said but I'm not sure how many real points of deeper thought I can see, it's more like hes just reacting. That's NAI, I'm just having a hard time reading through it kus it's a bit all over the place.
@ BF
You mention you brought up questions you wanted answered. I feel like i lost them in your like 20 post spam. Can you restate please?
I also want to remind you that while i for a moment considered you and plots as potential scum team, I dismissed it the next post. It was only based on what plots has said, and if he is scum it could have been a move to push you into the limelight after he gets lynched.
I'd also like you to critically look at the 3 claims made today, you've been wanting to do roles stuff for the past few phases, now is your chance. Look through each claim and tell me what makes you think the claim could be legit and what could not be legit. If you need to get more info to reach a conclusion, now is the time to ask. Questions: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/485267-newbie-student-mafia-x?page=83#1642http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/485267-newbie-student-mafia-x?page=83#1654http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/485267-newbie-student-mafia-x?page=83#1652Regarding the reminder: I'm still riding the bunnies/disinformation/plotspots train. I won't get off that train easily. Regarding the three claims: mason claim feels genuine and true, no logical flaws, everything's fine. Cop claim makes sense, too. Good calls, not liking the scum read on Sulfuras but hey that's how it is. The town checks on bunnies and barakos are confusing but would be easily explained with a GF. Can't see a scum lean in Barakos, that would leave it to bunnies. The Plotspots claim is weak because Barakos revealed that he was blocked before plots revealed his role. Then, plots went full yolo. So: strong claim on mason (which I support), okay(tendence to strong) claim on cop, weak claim on RB. I note by now that a lurky tactic is far better then really explaining what you are thinking. Dis, bunnies, barakos and sulf do a great job with that thus far. Notice the completely different tone as well??
eh frankly he's got some posts like this in his filter this game? though it doesn't look much like his opening or his latest posting which is just complete shit
i don't know -_- like what you call "reasonable" i can't even finish reading without twitching so lol i dunnae that i can make an unbiased read on bf. it took me forever to recognize that illogical =/= scum but i have the worst time reading those players even so xP
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On July 20 2015 00:31 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2015 00:28 Half the Sky wrote:On July 20 2015 00:21 Oatsmaster wrote:
Who are those people?
What exactly do you mean by wary?
Why is it scummy in this situation to push someone you think is town? Im sure you think rux is town too, why arent the people on rux scummy?
EBH, I had thought Ras wanted to lynch BF until the mini discussion we had on him and I THINK one other person mentioned him but at the very least it's another point against EBH. Oats I say wary because I think scum if any there will go for the easy lynch. How exactly is bf an easy lynch? Pretty much everyone was calling him town during the night except like ebh who has no pull and rsoul who also has no pull.
all too true -_-
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On July 20 2015 00:33 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2015 00:28 Clarity_nl wrote:On July 20 2015 00:25 rsoultin wrote:On July 20 2015 00:23 Clarity_nl wrote:On July 20 2015 00:20 rsoultin wrote:
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yeah i'm just going to pretend that i haven't asked for a clear explanation of why people are townreading bf half a dozen times ^^ HtS is right, bf's filter in NSM10 is completely different compared to here. He didn't tunnel, and he had long reasonable posts, the opposite of this game. quote the long reasonable posts? like i said i can't get past the first page -_- it's like reading sicklucker for me + Show Spoiler +On May 27 2015 05:26 boxerfred wrote:Show nested quote +On May 27 2015 04:29 Tictock wrote:
@27nb
What do you think about my last post regarding plots?
I agree about BF, he seems to be sheeping the popular opinion today. I also really don't like him looking for masons. Like he seems to be thinking it would help town to know who is masons so we have more confirmed town. Yet his possible masons are all people largely being townread, so how is that thinking helpful?
Which is wrong, I already pushed disinformation which was not popular at all, starting EoN. Also, I explained thoroughly why I voted for Sicklucker. Then, being sick of the SK discussion, I voted on bunnies without having my own follow up on other people's read. Can't do much about you not liking me trying to identify masons. I feel like with one scum member down, a mislynch becomes very possible. So I really want to gain any information I can get on who is most likely a town member. You are generalizing the mason thing, thus leaning me towards scum. Do you have any more reasons to do so beyond the ones I already replied to with this post? Why are you holding me scum for apparently sheeping a popular vote when you are not doing the same for disformation, who still has to reply to some pressure and changed his pushing pattern from day 1 to a lurker pattern today? He already admitted to rather accept a random coinflip then potentially(! note, potentially. chances were not above 50% in my opinion) having a train on himself? Please explain that. Gonna skim through your posts later. I'm reading you town but I didn't pay too much attention on your posts alone yet. On May 27 2015 22:40 boxerfred wrote:Show nested quote +On May 27 2015 22:23 Tictock wrote:
@BF
The whole SK thing was some tinfoil hat theory that I liked too much and took seriously. I suggest we go back to ignoring it until we at least find more scum.
I get your thinking on Dis, but to me that's just a sign on him being a new player and not being sure of his own reads. You could probably make this argument about me, but I like pushing what I see pretty hard.
Lets for a moment put aside our thoughts about Dis and SL.
Who are you fairly confident is town?
Where do you think we should look for scum in our shortening list of players? I wouldn't put that aside as fast as you do it. Changing a posting pattern is a serious thing. I get your "he's new" approach but I think you forget that dis is very conscious of posting patterns, he mentioned my pattern in a post. He must know that posting patterns are quite telly and he even took it in account when he was pushing me. So I at least want to know why his pattern changed so much. Any info, disinfo? I am fairly confident that Breshke is town. Can't tell for sure of course but his posts are very reasonable. He's taking his time to argue and he's very fair towards people, decently pushing at the same time though. I held batsnacks for town (also because he read me town basically all the time) but that might just be him pocketing me. I don't have a read on you, tictock, and feel like you should be under some more pressure or at least give some info on what your current reads are, now that BM flipped coin. I think putting SL aside at least until EoN is a good thing. We have no new clues thus far and he's fairly active, arguing in a weird but relatively reasonal way. Seems to have stopped yolo'ing. On May 29 2015 01:44 boxerfred wrote:Show nested quote +On May 28 2015 10:13 disformation wrote:
Okay folks. Let me solve this stuff...
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boxerfred: I remember you getting pretty angry when I called out your bad D1 voting behaviour. Hit a nerve?
] You pointed that out being a "Critical question", so let me answer: hell yes! You went at me pretty hard on D1 already and I defended myself without trying to get rid of any attention. I tried to simply stand there, let you fire at me and reply with "Well bro, I'm not a scum member. Since I (at this point) am not too sure about others, I'll just try to defend without damaging anyone else". In contrary to you: you freely admitted that you'd rather have a coinflip vote than the unlikely chance of getting bussed. When I decided to pressure you, I basically wanted to poke you to see if you'd change something once you're under pressure yourself. Well you did: your D2 pattern was lurky as fuck, and look what you do this day, now that town's chances are better than ever: short posts. Besides one (solid and well written) post, all you do is oneliners and following other guy's theories, without putting yourself too much in the line of fire. You accomplished to never be in danger of being voted since D1. Still hold you for town however. Tried really hard to find something besides your posting pattern that would justify a push on you, however I cannot. On May 29 2015 07:33 boxerfred wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2015 07:11 Tictock wrote:
I'm a little on the fence about BF's rapid fire posting on page 83. There is a lot of stuff being said but I'm not sure how many real points of deeper thought I can see, it's more like hes just reacting. That's NAI, I'm just having a hard time reading through it kus it's a bit all over the place.
@ BF
You mention you brought up questions you wanted answered. I feel like i lost them in your like 20 post spam. Can you restate please?
I also want to remind you that while i for a moment considered you and plots as potential scum team, I dismissed it the next post. It was only based on what plots has said, and if he is scum it could have been a move to push you into the limelight after he gets lynched.
I'd also like you to critically look at the 3 claims made today, you've been wanting to do roles stuff for the past few phases, now is your chance. Look through each claim and tell me what makes you think the claim could be legit and what could not be legit. If you need to get more info to reach a conclusion, now is the time to ask. Questions: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/485267-newbie-student-mafia-x?page=83#1642http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/485267-newbie-student-mafia-x?page=83#1654http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/485267-newbie-student-mafia-x?page=83#1652Regarding the reminder: I'm still riding the bunnies/disinformation/plotspots train. I won't get off that train easily. Regarding the three claims: mason claim feels genuine and true, no logical flaws, everything's fine. Cop claim makes sense, too. Good calls, not liking the scum read on Sulfuras but hey that's how it is. The town checks on bunnies and barakos are confusing but would be easily explained with a GF. Can't see a scum lean in Barakos, that would leave it to bunnies. The Plotspots claim is weak because Barakos revealed that he was blocked before plots revealed his role. Then, plots went full yolo. So: strong claim on mason (which I support), okay(tendence to strong) claim on cop, weak claim on RB. I note by now that a lurky tactic is far better then really explaining what you are thinking. Dis, bunnies, barakos and sulf do a great job with that thus far. Notice the completely different tone as well?? eh frankly he's got some posts like this in his filter this game? though it doesn't look much like his opening or his latest posting which is just complete shit i don't know -_- like what you call "reasonable" i can't even finish reading without twitching so lol i dunnae that i can make an unbiased read on bf. it took me forever to recognize that illogical =/= scum but i have the worst time reading those players even so xP
Like I'm just saying it sounds reasonable. His tone is completely "I hope I don't offend anyone" in that game compared to this one.
He doesn't have posts like that in this game at all?
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On July 20 2015 00:28 Half the Sky wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2015 00:21 Oatsmaster wrote:
Who are those people?
What exactly do you mean by wary?
Why is it scummy in this situation to push someone you think is town? Im sure you think rux is town too, why arent the people on rux scummy?
EBH, I had thought Ras wanted to lynch BF until the mini discussion we had on him and I THINK one other person mentioned him but at the very least it's another point against EBH. Oats I say wary because I think scum if any there will go for the easy lynch.
i think i prefer ebh today but i'm not gonna lie and say that i understand y'all's townreads on bf at all
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On July 20 2015 00:37 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2015 00:28 Half the Sky wrote:On July 20 2015 00:21 Oatsmaster wrote:
Who are those people?
What exactly do you mean by wary?
Why is it scummy in this situation to push someone you think is town? Im sure you think rux is town too, why arent the people on rux scummy?
EBH, I had thought Ras wanted to lynch BF until the mini discussion we had on him and I THINK one other person mentioned him but at the very least it's another point against EBH. Oats I say wary because I think scum if any there will go for the easy lynch. i think i prefer ebh today but i'm not gonna lie and say that i understand y'all's townreads on bf at all
if you prefer ebh, why are you waiting till there are 6 hours left and then not doing jack shit to get us to vote for ebh?
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On July 20 2015 00:36 Clarity_nl wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2015 00:33 rsoultin wrote:On July 20 2015 00:28 Clarity_nl wrote:On July 20 2015 00:25 rsoultin wrote:On July 20 2015 00:23 Clarity_nl wrote:On July 20 2015 00:20 rsoultin wrote:
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yeah i'm just going to pretend that i haven't asked for a clear explanation of why people are townreading bf half a dozen times ^^ HtS is right, bf's filter in NSM10 is completely different compared to here. He didn't tunnel, and he had long reasonable posts, the opposite of this game. quote the long reasonable posts? like i said i can't get past the first page -_- it's like reading sicklucker for me + Show Spoiler +On May 27 2015 05:26 boxerfred wrote:Show nested quote +On May 27 2015 04:29 Tictock wrote:
@27nb
What do you think about my last post regarding plots?
I agree about BF, he seems to be sheeping the popular opinion today. I also really don't like him looking for masons. Like he seems to be thinking it would help town to know who is masons so we have more confirmed town. Yet his possible masons are all people largely being townread, so how is that thinking helpful?
Which is wrong, I already pushed disinformation which was not popular at all, starting EoN. Also, I explained thoroughly why I voted for Sicklucker. Then, being sick of the SK discussion, I voted on bunnies without having my own follow up on other people's read. Can't do much about you not liking me trying to identify masons. I feel like with one scum member down, a mislynch becomes very possible. So I really want to gain any information I can get on who is most likely a town member. You are generalizing the mason thing, thus leaning me towards scum. Do you have any more reasons to do so beyond the ones I already replied to with this post? Why are you holding me scum for apparently sheeping a popular vote when you are not doing the same for disformation, who still has to reply to some pressure and changed his pushing pattern from day 1 to a lurker pattern today? He already admitted to rather accept a random coinflip then potentially(! note, potentially. chances were not above 50% in my opinion) having a train on himself? Please explain that. Gonna skim through your posts later. I'm reading you town but I didn't pay too much attention on your posts alone yet. On May 27 2015 22:40 boxerfred wrote:Show nested quote +On May 27 2015 22:23 Tictock wrote:
@BF
The whole SK thing was some tinfoil hat theory that I liked too much and took seriously. I suggest we go back to ignoring it until we at least find more scum.
I get your thinking on Dis, but to me that's just a sign on him being a new player and not being sure of his own reads. You could probably make this argument about me, but I like pushing what I see pretty hard.
Lets for a moment put aside our thoughts about Dis and SL.
Who are you fairly confident is town?
Where do you think we should look for scum in our shortening list of players? I wouldn't put that aside as fast as you do it. Changing a posting pattern is a serious thing. I get your "he's new" approach but I think you forget that dis is very conscious of posting patterns, he mentioned my pattern in a post. He must know that posting patterns are quite telly and he even took it in account when he was pushing me. So I at least want to know why his pattern changed so much. Any info, disinfo? I am fairly confident that Breshke is town. Can't tell for sure of course but his posts are very reasonable. He's taking his time to argue and he's very fair towards people, decently pushing at the same time though. I held batsnacks for town (also because he read me town basically all the time) but that might just be him pocketing me. I don't have a read on you, tictock, and feel like you should be under some more pressure or at least give some info on what your current reads are, now that BM flipped coin. I think putting SL aside at least until EoN is a good thing. We have no new clues thus far and he's fairly active, arguing in a weird but relatively reasonal way. Seems to have stopped yolo'ing. On May 29 2015 01:44 boxerfred wrote:Show nested quote +On May 28 2015 10:13 disformation wrote:
Okay folks. Let me solve this stuff...
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boxerfred: I remember you getting pretty angry when I called out your bad D1 voting behaviour. Hit a nerve?
] You pointed that out being a "Critical question", so let me answer: hell yes! You went at me pretty hard on D1 already and I defended myself without trying to get rid of any attention. I tried to simply stand there, let you fire at me and reply with "Well bro, I'm not a scum member. Since I (at this point) am not too sure about others, I'll just try to defend without damaging anyone else". In contrary to you: you freely admitted that you'd rather have a coinflip vote than the unlikely chance of getting bussed. When I decided to pressure you, I basically wanted to poke you to see if you'd change something once you're under pressure yourself. Well you did: your D2 pattern was lurky as fuck, and look what you do this day, now that town's chances are better than ever: short posts. Besides one (solid and well written) post, all you do is oneliners and following other guy's theories, without putting yourself too much in the line of fire. You accomplished to never be in danger of being voted since D1. Still hold you for town however. Tried really hard to find something besides your posting pattern that would justify a push on you, however I cannot. On May 29 2015 07:33 boxerfred wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2015 07:11 Tictock wrote:
I'm a little on the fence about BF's rapid fire posting on page 83. There is a lot of stuff being said but I'm not sure how many real points of deeper thought I can see, it's more like hes just reacting. That's NAI, I'm just having a hard time reading through it kus it's a bit all over the place.
@ BF
You mention you brought up questions you wanted answered. I feel like i lost them in your like 20 post spam. Can you restate please?
I also want to remind you that while i for a moment considered you and plots as potential scum team, I dismissed it the next post. It was only based on what plots has said, and if he is scum it could have been a move to push you into the limelight after he gets lynched.
I'd also like you to critically look at the 3 claims made today, you've been wanting to do roles stuff for the past few phases, now is your chance. Look through each claim and tell me what makes you think the claim could be legit and what could not be legit. If you need to get more info to reach a conclusion, now is the time to ask. Questions: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/485267-newbie-student-mafia-x?page=83#1642http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/485267-newbie-student-mafia-x?page=83#1654http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/485267-newbie-student-mafia-x?page=83#1652Regarding the reminder: I'm still riding the bunnies/disinformation/plotspots train. I won't get off that train easily. Regarding the three claims: mason claim feels genuine and true, no logical flaws, everything's fine. Cop claim makes sense, too. Good calls, not liking the scum read on Sulfuras but hey that's how it is. The town checks on bunnies and barakos are confusing but would be easily explained with a GF. Can't see a scum lean in Barakos, that would leave it to bunnies. The Plotspots claim is weak because Barakos revealed that he was blocked before plots revealed his role. Then, plots went full yolo. So: strong claim on mason (which I support), okay(tendence to strong) claim on cop, weak claim on RB. I note by now that a lurky tactic is far better then really explaining what you are thinking. Dis, bunnies, barakos and sulf do a great job with that thus far. Notice the completely different tone as well?? eh frankly he's got some posts like this in his filter this game? though it doesn't look much like his opening or his latest posting which is just complete shit i don't know -_- like what you call "reasonable" i can't even finish reading without twitching so lol i dunnae that i can make an unbiased read on bf. it took me forever to recognize that illogical =/= scum but i have the worst time reading those players even so xP Like I'm just saying it sounds reasonable. His tone is completely "I hope I don't offend anyone" in that game compared to this one. He doesn't have posts like that in this game at all?
ooooooh reasonable like that not reasonable like making a lick of sense
hn, maybe. tbf i don't think he risks anything being a dick to me when no one will call him on it anyway, but you may have a point there
-_- i'm getting to the point where you kinda have to be scum or one of my townreads is wrong
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Ugh. I have like 25 min left before I gtg but I don't really feel like doing more.
##Vote EBH
If HtS gets me lynched she's still town, fyi. If she's scum good for her she can win the game, very impressive.
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I am putting my vote on EBH. I have to go to brunch.
I'm moving my shit to the hotel when I check in around 1500...I will be back on mobile at some point and will try to get the rest of my shit together before eod.
>_<
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On July 20 2015 00:38 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2015 00:37 rsoultin wrote:On July 20 2015 00:28 Half the Sky wrote:On July 20 2015 00:21 Oatsmaster wrote:
Who are those people?
What exactly do you mean by wary?
Why is it scummy in this situation to push someone you think is town? Im sure you think rux is town too, why arent the people on rux scummy?
EBH, I had thought Ras wanted to lynch BF until the mini discussion we had on him and I THINK one other person mentioned him but at the very least it's another point against EBH. Oats I say wary because I think scum if any there will go for the easy lynch. i think i prefer ebh today but i'm not gonna lie and say that i understand y'all's townreads on bf at all if you prefer ebh, why are you waiting till there are 6 hours left and then not doing jack shit to get us to vote for ebh?
step 1: reread the thread since you entered it
step 2: remove head from ass
step 3: apologize profusely
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On July 20 2015 00:40 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2015 00:36 Clarity_nl wrote:On July 20 2015 00:33 rsoultin wrote:On July 20 2015 00:28 Clarity_nl wrote:On July 20 2015 00:25 rsoultin wrote:On July 20 2015 00:23 Clarity_nl wrote:On July 20 2015 00:20 rsoultin wrote:
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yeah i'm just going to pretend that i haven't asked for a clear explanation of why people are townreading bf half a dozen times ^^ HtS is right, bf's filter in NSM10 is completely different compared to here. He didn't tunnel, and he had long reasonable posts, the opposite of this game. quote the long reasonable posts? like i said i can't get past the first page -_- it's like reading sicklucker for me + Show Spoiler +On May 27 2015 05:26 boxerfred wrote:Show nested quote +On May 27 2015 04:29 Tictock wrote:
@27nb
What do you think about my last post regarding plots?
I agree about BF, he seems to be sheeping the popular opinion today. I also really don't like him looking for masons. Like he seems to be thinking it would help town to know who is masons so we have more confirmed town. Yet his possible masons are all people largely being townread, so how is that thinking helpful?
Which is wrong, I already pushed disinformation which was not popular at all, starting EoN. Also, I explained thoroughly why I voted for Sicklucker. Then, being sick of the SK discussion, I voted on bunnies without having my own follow up on other people's read. Can't do much about you not liking me trying to identify masons. I feel like with one scum member down, a mislynch becomes very possible. So I really want to gain any information I can get on who is most likely a town member. You are generalizing the mason thing, thus leaning me towards scum. Do you have any more reasons to do so beyond the ones I already replied to with this post? Why are you holding me scum for apparently sheeping a popular vote when you are not doing the same for disformation, who still has to reply to some pressure and changed his pushing pattern from day 1 to a lurker pattern today? He already admitted to rather accept a random coinflip then potentially(! note, potentially. chances were not above 50% in my opinion) having a train on himself? Please explain that. Gonna skim through your posts later. I'm reading you town but I didn't pay too much attention on your posts alone yet. On May 27 2015 22:40 boxerfred wrote:Show nested quote +On May 27 2015 22:23 Tictock wrote:
@BF
The whole SK thing was some tinfoil hat theory that I liked too much and took seriously. I suggest we go back to ignoring it until we at least find more scum.
I get your thinking on Dis, but to me that's just a sign on him being a new player and not being sure of his own reads. You could probably make this argument about me, but I like pushing what I see pretty hard.
Lets for a moment put aside our thoughts about Dis and SL.
Who are you fairly confident is town?
Where do you think we should look for scum in our shortening list of players? I wouldn't put that aside as fast as you do it. Changing a posting pattern is a serious thing. I get your "he's new" approach but I think you forget that dis is very conscious of posting patterns, he mentioned my pattern in a post. He must know that posting patterns are quite telly and he even took it in account when he was pushing me. So I at least want to know why his pattern changed so much. Any info, disinfo? I am fairly confident that Breshke is town. Can't tell for sure of course but his posts are very reasonable. He's taking his time to argue and he's very fair towards people, decently pushing at the same time though. I held batsnacks for town (also because he read me town basically all the time) but that might just be him pocketing me. I don't have a read on you, tictock, and feel like you should be under some more pressure or at least give some info on what your current reads are, now that BM flipped coin. I think putting SL aside at least until EoN is a good thing. We have no new clues thus far and he's fairly active, arguing in a weird but relatively reasonal way. Seems to have stopped yolo'ing. On May 29 2015 01:44 boxerfred wrote:Show nested quote +On May 28 2015 10:13 disformation wrote:
Okay folks. Let me solve this stuff...
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boxerfred: I remember you getting pretty angry when I called out your bad D1 voting behaviour. Hit a nerve?
] You pointed that out being a "Critical question", so let me answer: hell yes! You went at me pretty hard on D1 already and I defended myself without trying to get rid of any attention. I tried to simply stand there, let you fire at me and reply with "Well bro, I'm not a scum member. Since I (at this point) am not too sure about others, I'll just try to defend without damaging anyone else". In contrary to you: you freely admitted that you'd rather have a coinflip vote than the unlikely chance of getting bussed. When I decided to pressure you, I basically wanted to poke you to see if you'd change something once you're under pressure yourself. Well you did: your D2 pattern was lurky as fuck, and look what you do this day, now that town's chances are better than ever: short posts. Besides one (solid and well written) post, all you do is oneliners and following other guy's theories, without putting yourself too much in the line of fire. You accomplished to never be in danger of being voted since D1. Still hold you for town however. Tried really hard to find something besides your posting pattern that would justify a push on you, however I cannot. On May 29 2015 07:33 boxerfred wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2015 07:11 Tictock wrote:
I'm a little on the fence about BF's rapid fire posting on page 83. There is a lot of stuff being said but I'm not sure how many real points of deeper thought I can see, it's more like hes just reacting. That's NAI, I'm just having a hard time reading through it kus it's a bit all over the place.
@ BF
You mention you brought up questions you wanted answered. I feel like i lost them in your like 20 post spam. Can you restate please?
I also want to remind you that while i for a moment considered you and plots as potential scum team, I dismissed it the next post. It was only based on what plots has said, and if he is scum it could have been a move to push you into the limelight after he gets lynched.
I'd also like you to critically look at the 3 claims made today, you've been wanting to do roles stuff for the past few phases, now is your chance. Look through each claim and tell me what makes you think the claim could be legit and what could not be legit. If you need to get more info to reach a conclusion, now is the time to ask. Questions: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/485267-newbie-student-mafia-x?page=83#1642http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/485267-newbie-student-mafia-x?page=83#1654http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/485267-newbie-student-mafia-x?page=83#1652Regarding the reminder: I'm still riding the bunnies/disinformation/plotspots train. I won't get off that train easily. Regarding the three claims: mason claim feels genuine and true, no logical flaws, everything's fine. Cop claim makes sense, too. Good calls, not liking the scum read on Sulfuras but hey that's how it is. The town checks on bunnies and barakos are confusing but would be easily explained with a GF. Can't see a scum lean in Barakos, that would leave it to bunnies. The Plotspots claim is weak because Barakos revealed that he was blocked before plots revealed his role. Then, plots went full yolo. So: strong claim on mason (which I support), okay(tendence to strong) claim on cop, weak claim on RB. I note by now that a lurky tactic is far better then really explaining what you are thinking. Dis, bunnies, barakos and sulf do a great job with that thus far. Notice the completely different tone as well?? eh frankly he's got some posts like this in his filter this game? though it doesn't look much like his opening or his latest posting which is just complete shit i don't know -_- like what you call "reasonable" i can't even finish reading without twitching so lol i dunnae that i can make an unbiased read on bf. it took me forever to recognize that illogical =/= scum but i have the worst time reading those players even so xP Like I'm just saying it sounds reasonable. His tone is completely "I hope I don't offend anyone" in that game compared to this one. He doesn't have posts like that in this game at all? ooooooh reasonable like that not reasonable like making a lick of sense hn, maybe. tbf i don't think he risks anything being a dick to me when no one will call him on it anyway, but you may have a point there -_- i'm getting to the point where you kinda have to be scum or one of my townreads is wrong
Welcome to the club. We have something special going on you and I.
I'll be around to answer questions for 20 min or so but that's it.
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On July 20 2015 00:40 Clarity_nl wrote:
Ugh. I have like 25 min left before I gtg but I don't really feel like doing more.
##Vote EBH
If HtS gets me lynched she's still town, fyi. If she's scum good for her she can win the game, very impressive.
Stop doing this shit.
Its so annoying.
"Oh lets lynch this dude who has played badly is probably town so that I dont feel bad if I lynch someone active and they are town".
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On July 20 2015 00:38 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2015 00:37 rsoultin wrote:On July 20 2015 00:28 Half the Sky wrote:On July 20 2015 00:21 Oatsmaster wrote:
Who are those people?
What exactly do you mean by wary?
Why is it scummy in this situation to push someone you think is town? Im sure you think rux is town too, why arent the people on rux scummy?
EBH, I had thought Ras wanted to lynch BF until the mini discussion we had on him and I THINK one other person mentioned him but at the very least it's another point against EBH. Oats I say wary because I think scum if any there will go for the easy lynch. i think i prefer ebh today but i'm not gonna lie and say that i understand y'all's townreads on bf at all if you prefer ebh, why are you waiting till there are 6 hours left and then not doing jack shit to get us to vote for ebh?
Oats I am abroad right now and this is the best I can do with the time I have.
If you want to lynch me then so be it.
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On July 20 2015 00:41 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2015 00:38 Oatsmaster wrote:On July 20 2015 00:37 rsoultin wrote:On July 20 2015 00:28 Half the Sky wrote:On July 20 2015 00:21 Oatsmaster wrote:
Who are those people?
What exactly do you mean by wary?
Why is it scummy in this situation to push someone you think is town? Im sure you think rux is town too, why arent the people on rux scummy?
EBH, I had thought Ras wanted to lynch BF until the mini discussion we had on him and I THINK one other person mentioned him but at the very least it's another point against EBH. Oats I say wary because I think scum if any there will go for the easy lynch. i think i prefer ebh today but i'm not gonna lie and say that i understand y'all's townreads on bf at all if you prefer ebh, why are you waiting till there are 6 hours left and then not doing jack shit to get us to vote for ebh? step 1: reread the thread since you entered it step 2: remove head from ass step 3: apologize profusely
2 votes came in the last 5 minutes.
2 votes are not enough to lynch anyone.
You dont care enough.
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