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Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
July 13 2015 00:34 GMT
#5881
On July 13 2015 02:55 Vivax wrote:
Btw I'm also onboard a Kelsier lynch. D1 his uninvolvement and jokey stuff was fine but now he's plain forgettable.

So I'd lynch into those three dudes (Blueh, Scott, Kelsier) and as for milo I'll need to think harder about him.


I re-read EBH's filter yet again. I still cannot get a good townread on him at all. Comments after my latest assessment again - still to come from either alignment.

Regarding the comments on him being VA, I can see that given the writing style of the player. I can believe that. If that is VA and if the meta where he gives a few fucks and has an agenda (as JAT said in Not Themed) is true) it could explain where he thought the veteran responsible for the potential N1 targets was MZ. Maybe the whole Breshke/Obi/KSC post thing where he asked people and a lot of us had them as town. And then later he scumreads KSC for falling off.

Regarding Scott - yeah I didn't just look at Damdred's filter - after Trfel's last comment on him, I checked the filters of the others he was scumreading last night and I kept running into the same problem there was not the interactions he was claiming.

I can definitely get on board with an EBH/Scott lynch. KSC, I don't know. I cannot talk about other games, but all I'll say is that NSM12, he's sparse there too. Take that as you will.

And in that case, Vivax might actually not be mafia, he might actually be town. At least given his latest wave of posting.

Also for me to double check the metas you all used to further push the MZ vig shot - I'm digging through here and can't find it - what games for MZ did you guys use to come to your conclusion? I'm trying to cross check the whole Ras TMI theory.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
XEliteBlueHunter69X
Profile Joined June 2015
155 Posts
July 13 2015 00:49 GMT
#5882
oh yea thanks for reminding me about that. MZ didn't flip scum meaning there is still somebody out there that feared palmar heavily.
milo109
Profile Joined May 2015
466 Posts
July 13 2015 00:55 GMT
#5883
How does EBH have a filter of three? O.O
XEliteBlueHunter69X
Profile Joined June 2015
155 Posts
July 13 2015 00:56 GMT
#5884
Because I dont uselessly spam the thread with one liner conversations that lead to nothing to bolster my post count.

Btw pickings are slim at this point for palmar fear, only vivax really makes sense given my reads on people this game. Possibly WoS but meh.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 13 2015 01:09 GMT
#5885
On July 13 2015 09:56 XEliteBlueHunter69X wrote:
Because I dont uselessly spam the thread with one liner conversations that lead to nothing to bolster my post count.

Btw pickings are slim at this point for palmar fear, only vivax really makes sense given my reads on people this game. Possibly WoS but meh.


You know damdred fears palmar right?
XEliteBlueHunter69X
Profile Joined June 2015
155 Posts
July 13 2015 01:56 GMT
#5886
On July 13 2015 10:09 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2015 09:56 XEliteBlueHunter69X wrote:
Because I dont uselessly spam the thread with one liner conversations that lead to nothing to bolster my post count.

Btw pickings are slim at this point for palmar fear, only vivax really makes sense given my reads on people this game. Possibly WoS but meh.


You know damdred fears palmar right?


no I don't, im not in the scum QT unfortunately
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
July 13 2015 02:46 GMT
#5887
Vote Count


milo109 (10): LightningStrike, milo109, scott31337, Oatsmaster, Harkon, ruXxar, Half the Sky, Marvellosity, ObiWanShinobi, KelsierSC
Holyflare (2): Trfel, Breshke
KelsierSC(1): XEliteBlueHunter69X
scott31337 (2): Vivax, Holyflare,

Not Voting (4): , WaveofShadow, Clarity_nl, boxerfred, rsoultin

Currently, milo109 is set to be lynched. With 19 alive it takes 10 to lynch. Day ends at Monday, Jul 13 10:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00) in .

Voting is Mandatory! Voting is done in the voting thread: (link)
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rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
July 13 2015 06:52 GMT
#5888
+ Show Spoiler +
On July 11 2015 12:47 rsoultin wrote:
eh

i dunnae, like i kinda feel about mz like i did about gb...like i read his filter and i still don't really get those super scummy vibes? it was kind of ludicrous to even suggest a wagon when he'd barely read the thread yet, but i actually get what he's saying about milo and ritoky? like if we had any blues who weren't outed i'd say concentrate actions there lol >< cause town feels but knowing his alignment is kinda key to the d1 lynch

also i completely get his frustration with marv >< it's a bit wifomy and admittedly i don't know him, but scum uuuuusually doesn't take confirmed town thread leaders and antagonize them further. but maybe it resonates because i get tired of the egos myself quite frequently

(<3 marv...you've been amazing this game, though, lol, don't get me wrong. ippo made me want to strangle you at times, though)

also i think if he's town that makes it way more likely scott is scum...triple buss seems really odd here


On July 11 2015 12:55 rsoultin wrote:
objectively mz or milo is the best shot? i mean, i think that's obvious lol >< hf being a twit aside i'm not an idiot

mz probably gives us more information, but even people not hard-scumreading milo i don't see actually thinking he could be town really, so it saves us the time of lynching him and probably hits scum

either is good. personally i think a check on mz would be better but lol >< not really expecting that to happen since everyone and their brother has already claimed


On July 12 2015 02:38 rsoultin wrote:
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On July 12 2015 02:34 ritoky wrote:
On July 12 2015 02:22 Harkon wrote:
But anyways. We will deal with him tomorrow - if there is a vig shoot MZ instead.

Why do you think MZ could be town btw, ritoky?


He could be town cuz he insulted people after basically not being here, read the thread upon re-entry, wanted a lynch that was not a primary wagon (could be tmi), and hasn't fucked off entirely. I think I have played 1 game with MZ when he was mafia and he legit just fucked off to dodge out on conversations he didn't wanna be a part of. He also seemed really obsessed with KSC, which probably means they aren't together....and I think KSC is kinda pretty mafia.

If he is mafia, it is cuz of shit like this:

On July 08 2015 09:47 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On July 08 2015 09:43 KelsierSC wrote:
On July 08 2015 09:41 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Ohh also the post here:
On July 08 2015 02:58 Vivax wrote:
Would lynch Wave.

He didn't do jack all to push something. As town he should compose a certain threat level to scum players but i I were scum this game I would just assume he's a docile sheep that won't hurt me, simply cause he'd be on my team.

There's a bit of questioning there, a few townreads here, an angry vote on HF somewhere, but I totallly don't get a vibe of ambition to find the mafia from his posts.


zero follow up after this and given how wave has been playing it smells like scum vivax throwing out a safe read onto a fellow red who is in no danger of being lynched (wave).

But more on Wave later.
<3 5ever mang but I haven't seen the sunshine and rainbows I was expecting in your filter


i would now be interested in your read on damdred

tell me what you think

I'm on page 123, he hasn't had any posts that gave me serious concern that I remember. Null town? I feel like he had a post where he shared some suspicions I had.



On July 08 2015 09:53 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On July 08 2015 09:49 KelsierSC wrote:
On July 08 2015 09:47 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On July 08 2015 09:43 KelsierSC wrote:
On July 08 2015 09:41 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Ohh also the post here:
On July 08 2015 02:58 Vivax wrote:
Would lynch Wave.

He didn't do jack all to push something. As town he should compose a certain threat level to scum players but i I were scum this game I would just assume he's a docile sheep that won't hurt me, simply cause he'd be on my team.

There's a bit of questioning there, a few townreads here, an angry vote on HF somewhere, but I totallly don't get a vibe of ambition to find the mafia from his posts.


zero follow up after this and given how wave has been playing it smells like scum vivax throwing out a safe read onto a fellow red who is in no danger of being lynched (wave).

But more on Wave later.
<3 5ever mang but I haven't seen the sunshine and rainbows I was expecting in your filter


i would now be interested in your read on damdred

tell me what you think

I'm on page 123, he hasn't had any posts that gave me serious concern that I remember. Null town? I feel like he had a post where he shared some suspicions I had.


do you have any thoughts on rsoul or LS

sorry to keep distracing you

I think rsoultin is probably town and I also think the RS/HF dispute is green on green.

idk about LS, not really on my radar but probably worth a read through when I finish.



that was where i waffled?

like...i don't know him and maybe he's really just ballsy as shit (i'll admit that i'll do this as either alignment, but it's more foolish than ballsy xP), but if you're scum and people like marv are scumreading you in a game like this where marv is like all but above suspicion, it just seems like a really bad idea to start insulting the shit out of him -shrugs-

i guess that's wifom but it's enough to make me waffle, anyway. plus, as i said, i kinda get where he was going with the ritoky/milo thing. not sure i fully agree with it but i can see how you can say "well the second guy who claimed it saw what happened with the first"

hold on let me review something...


On July 12 2015 02:50 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2015 04:13 ritoky wrote: - pg. 66
1-shot dumbledore

move on.


Show nested quote +
On July 08 2015 03:52 milo109 wrote: - pg. 124
I want to lynch ten people.

Damdred
Scott
Ritoky
HF
HtS
Clarity
Kelsier
LS
Rsoul
Vaxx(whatever his name is)

Hopefully I might be able to narrow that down a little.



Show nested quote +
On July 08 2015 23:14 milo109 wrote: - pg. 169 after milo's cop claim
The only problem is if you lynch ritoky and he flips cop, you'll want to lynch me, and then town probably has no more cops. Now if he flips mafia, well that is big game.


^ like, maybe this post from milo is just pragmatism, but he has rit as his 3rd suspect after ritoky's claim, and the only mention that i can find of rit between this switch is here:

Show nested quote +
On July 08 2015 03:15 milo109 wrote:
Yo HtS, I don't really understand this style of play. I'll answer your questions, but may I ask why you have decided to have this rather elongated conversation with me, a scum read? I still think KelsierSC is scum, yes. He has had the opposite reaction to me on almost every major event in the game. I've also disliked most of his one-liners, and that is almost all of his posting. I also think there is scum on both the town and mafia side of his list, something a mafia would almost have to do. As for Damdred, I also still think he is mafia. I voted for Ritoky because there isn't enough time to get a wagon started on the other two, but I would advise looking at them.

HF is weird. You're weird. LS is weird. Rsoultin is weird. Who knows if that is mafia indicative or not?


??? there's no indication of where his read changed?

like it doesn't matter if rit flips cop before milo claims, but afterwards, that makes milo look bad. lol >< so yeah i can see people coming to that conclusion well before the tracker claim on d2, in all honesty. not sure how tmi it is?



On July 12 2015 02:50 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2015 02:44 Harkon wrote:
On July 12 2015 02:38 rsoultin wrote:
On July 12 2015 02:34 ritoky wrote:
On July 12 2015 02:22 Harkon wrote:
But anyways. We will deal with him tomorrow - if there is a vig shoot MZ instead.

Why do you think MZ could be town btw, ritoky?


He could be town cuz he insulted people after basically not being here, read the thread upon re-entry, wanted a lynch that was not a primary wagon (could be tmi), and hasn't fucked off entirely. I think I have played 1 game with MZ when he was mafia and he legit just fucked off to dodge out on conversations he didn't wanna be a part of. He also seemed really obsessed with KSC, which probably means they aren't together....and I think KSC is kinda pretty mafia.

If he is mafia, it is cuz of shit like this:

On July 08 2015 09:47 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On July 08 2015 09:43 KelsierSC wrote:
On July 08 2015 09:41 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Ohh also the post here:
On July 08 2015 02:58 Vivax wrote:
Would lynch Wave.

He didn't do jack all to push something. As town he should compose a certain threat level to scum players but i I were scum this game I would just assume he's a docile sheep that won't hurt me, simply cause he'd be on my team.

There's a bit of questioning there, a few townreads here, an angry vote on HF somewhere, but I totallly don't get a vibe of ambition to find the mafia from his posts.


zero follow up after this and given how wave has been playing it smells like scum vivax throwing out a safe read onto a fellow red who is in no danger of being lynched (wave).

But more on Wave later.
<3 5ever mang but I haven't seen the sunshine and rainbows I was expecting in your filter


i would now be interested in your read on damdred

tell me what you think

I'm on page 123, he hasn't had any posts that gave me serious concern that I remember. Null town? I feel like he had a post where he shared some suspicions I had.



On July 08 2015 09:53 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On July 08 2015 09:49 KelsierSC wrote:
On July 08 2015 09:47 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On July 08 2015 09:43 KelsierSC wrote:
On July 08 2015 09:41 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Ohh also the post here:
On July 08 2015 02:58 Vivax wrote:
Would lynch Wave.

He didn't do jack all to push something. As town he should compose a certain threat level to scum players but i I were scum this game I would just assume he's a docile sheep that won't hurt me, simply cause he'd be on my team.

There's a bit of questioning there, a few townreads here, an angry vote on HF somewhere, but I totallly don't get a vibe of ambition to find the mafia from his posts.


zero follow up after this and given how wave has been playing it smells like scum vivax throwing out a safe read onto a fellow red who is in no danger of being lynched (wave).

But more on Wave later.
<3 5ever mang but I haven't seen the sunshine and rainbows I was expecting in your filter


i would now be interested in your read on damdred

tell me what you think

I'm on page 123, he hasn't had any posts that gave me serious concern that I remember. Null town? I feel like he had a post where he shared some suspicions I had.


do you have any thoughts on rsoul or LS

sorry to keep distracing you

I think rsoultin is probably town and I also think the RS/HF dispute is green on green.

idk about LS, not really on my radar but probably worth a read through when I finish.



that was where i waffled?

like...i don't know him and maybe he's really just ballsy as shit (i'll admit that i'll do this as either alignment, but it's more foolish than ballsy xP), but if you're scum and people like marv are scumreading you in a game like this where marv is like all but above suspicion, it just seems like a really bad idea to start insulting the shit out of him -shrugs-

i guess that's wifom but it's enough to make me waffle, anyway. plus, as i said, i kinda get where he was going with the ritoky/milo thing. not sure i fully agree with it but i can see how you can say "well the second guy who claimed it saw what happened with the first"

hold on let me review something...

For MZ take a look at PYP: League of Legends mafia. He continuously antagonized the townies who pushed him and tried to ridicule them. Exactly like he did with marv here. It is actually one of the reasons why he is mafia.


oh...well nvm then >< lol


@ hts...there's nothing verifiable about the "tmi" accusation lol >< i thought that accusing mz of tmi in the first place was a stretch. read the quotes in the spoiler

jat's saying that i should just sheep him, marv and ls on their reads, cause i'm so well-known for like sheeping people blindly and shit xP i didn't even look at the meta you're looking up, and even if i had i doubt it would have changed the fact that the main, actual accusation against mz...that he had tmi regarding rit and milo...i disagreed with

essentially, you're wasting your time. you either believe or disbelieve that my read on mz came from tmi...i didn't take the meta into account when i posted

and jat still thinks that i tmi in my scumgames cause of the hard-buss on him in my very first one lol ><
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
July 13 2015 07:02 GMT
#5889
Back now and kinda caught up. I'm really happy about the milo lynch.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
July 13 2015 07:31 GMT
#5890
I don't like Kelsier not being here and he did seem rather whatever about the d1 lynch, but I still think he's town.

As for Vivax:
On July 12 2015 23:05 Vivax wrote:
I wanna suggest we actually all go back and look at EoD 1 given that scum should have had quite the zero fucks attitude on who gets lynched given both wagons were towns, so my assumption is they didn't show much interest into the lynch but at the same time gave some overly complicated explanation, so that's where I'll be looking now.

What do you think about this assumption?


On July 13 2015 02:55 Vivax wrote:
Btw I'm also onboard a Kelsier lynch. D1 his uninvolvement and jokey stuff was fine but now he's plain forgettable.

So I'd lynch into those three dudes (Blueh, Scott, Kelsier) and as for milo I'll need to think harder about him.


I'd be okay with a vivax lynch next. He gives out townreads like nobody's business yet has no opinion on milo who has been talked about as a lynch candidate since d1. He states scum probably didn't give a shit about the d1 lynch (convenient as he called everyone dumb for switching to BM, but did nothing to stop it), says kelsier might be scum, but somehow says his d1 is fine despite kelsier being indifferent as fuck during the last hour of d1.

I'm fine with scott too.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Harkon
Profile Joined June 2015
569 Posts
July 13 2015 07:58 GMT
#5891
On July 13 2015 15:52 rsoultin wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On July 11 2015 12:47 rsoultin wrote:
eh

i dunnae, like i kinda feel about mz like i did about gb...like i read his filter and i still don't really get those super scummy vibes? it was kind of ludicrous to even suggest a wagon when he'd barely read the thread yet, but i actually get what he's saying about milo and ritoky? like if we had any blues who weren't outed i'd say concentrate actions there lol >< cause town feels but knowing his alignment is kinda key to the d1 lynch

also i completely get his frustration with marv >< it's a bit wifomy and admittedly i don't know him, but scum uuuuusually doesn't take confirmed town thread leaders and antagonize them further. but maybe it resonates because i get tired of the egos myself quite frequently

(<3 marv...you've been amazing this game, though, lol, don't get me wrong. ippo made me want to strangle you at times, though)

also i think if he's town that makes it way more likely scott is scum...triple buss seems really odd here


On July 11 2015 12:55 rsoultin wrote:
objectively mz or milo is the best shot? i mean, i think that's obvious lol >< hf being a twit aside i'm not an idiot

mz probably gives us more information, but even people not hard-scumreading milo i don't see actually thinking he could be town really, so it saves us the time of lynching him and probably hits scum

either is good. personally i think a check on mz would be better but lol >< not really expecting that to happen since everyone and their brother has already claimed


On July 12 2015 02:38 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2015 02:34 ritoky wrote:
On July 12 2015 02:22 Harkon wrote:
But anyways. We will deal with him tomorrow - if there is a vig shoot MZ instead.

Why do you think MZ could be town btw, ritoky?


He could be town cuz he insulted people after basically not being here, read the thread upon re-entry, wanted a lynch that was not a primary wagon (could be tmi), and hasn't fucked off entirely. I think I have played 1 game with MZ when he was mafia and he legit just fucked off to dodge out on conversations he didn't wanna be a part of. He also seemed really obsessed with KSC, which probably means they aren't together....and I think KSC is kinda pretty mafia.

If he is mafia, it is cuz of shit like this:

On July 08 2015 09:47 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On July 08 2015 09:43 KelsierSC wrote:
On July 08 2015 09:41 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Ohh also the post here:
On July 08 2015 02:58 Vivax wrote:
Would lynch Wave.

He didn't do jack all to push something. As town he should compose a certain threat level to scum players but i I were scum this game I would just assume he's a docile sheep that won't hurt me, simply cause he'd be on my team.

There's a bit of questioning there, a few townreads here, an angry vote on HF somewhere, but I totallly don't get a vibe of ambition to find the mafia from his posts.


zero follow up after this and given how wave has been playing it smells like scum vivax throwing out a safe read onto a fellow red who is in no danger of being lynched (wave).

But more on Wave later.
<3 5ever mang but I haven't seen the sunshine and rainbows I was expecting in your filter


i would now be interested in your read on damdred

tell me what you think

I'm on page 123, he hasn't had any posts that gave me serious concern that I remember. Null town? I feel like he had a post where he shared some suspicions I had.



On July 08 2015 09:53 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On July 08 2015 09:49 KelsierSC wrote:
On July 08 2015 09:47 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On July 08 2015 09:43 KelsierSC wrote:
On July 08 2015 09:41 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Ohh also the post here:
On July 08 2015 02:58 Vivax wrote:
Would lynch Wave.

He didn't do jack all to push something. As town he should compose a certain threat level to scum players but i I were scum this game I would just assume he's a docile sheep that won't hurt me, simply cause he'd be on my team.

There's a bit of questioning there, a few townreads here, an angry vote on HF somewhere, but I totallly don't get a vibe of ambition to find the mafia from his posts.


zero follow up after this and given how wave has been playing it smells like scum vivax throwing out a safe read onto a fellow red who is in no danger of being lynched (wave).

But more on Wave later.
<3 5ever mang but I haven't seen the sunshine and rainbows I was expecting in your filter


i would now be interested in your read on damdred

tell me what you think

I'm on page 123, he hasn't had any posts that gave me serious concern that I remember. Null town? I feel like he had a post where he shared some suspicions I had.


do you have any thoughts on rsoul or LS

sorry to keep distracing you

I think rsoultin is probably town and I also think the RS/HF dispute is green on green.

idk about LS, not really on my radar but probably worth a read through when I finish.



that was where i waffled?

like...i don't know him and maybe he's really just ballsy as shit (i'll admit that i'll do this as either alignment, but it's more foolish than ballsy xP), but if you're scum and people like marv are scumreading you in a game like this where marv is like all but above suspicion, it just seems like a really bad idea to start insulting the shit out of him -shrugs-

i guess that's wifom but it's enough to make me waffle, anyway. plus, as i said, i kinda get where he was going with the ritoky/milo thing. not sure i fully agree with it but i can see how you can say "well the second guy who claimed it saw what happened with the first"

hold on let me review something...


On July 12 2015 02:50 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2015 04:13 ritoky wrote: - pg. 66
1-shot dumbledore

move on.


Show nested quote +
On July 08 2015 03:52 milo109 wrote: - pg. 124
I want to lynch ten people.

Damdred
Scott
Ritoky
HF
HtS
Clarity
Kelsier
LS
Rsoul
Vaxx(whatever his name is)

Hopefully I might be able to narrow that down a little.



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On July 08 2015 23:14 milo109 wrote: - pg. 169 after milo's cop claim
The only problem is if you lynch ritoky and he flips cop, you'll want to lynch me, and then town probably has no more cops. Now if he flips mafia, well that is big game.


^ like, maybe this post from milo is just pragmatism, but he has rit as his 3rd suspect after ritoky's claim, and the only mention that i can find of rit between this switch is here:

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On July 08 2015 03:15 milo109 wrote:
Yo HtS, I don't really understand this style of play. I'll answer your questions, but may I ask why you have decided to have this rather elongated conversation with me, a scum read? I still think KelsierSC is scum, yes. He has had the opposite reaction to me on almost every major event in the game. I've also disliked most of his one-liners, and that is almost all of his posting. I also think there is scum on both the town and mafia side of his list, something a mafia would almost have to do. As for Damdred, I also still think he is mafia. I voted for Ritoky because there isn't enough time to get a wagon started on the other two, but I would advise looking at them.

HF is weird. You're weird. LS is weird. Rsoultin is weird. Who knows if that is mafia indicative or not?


??? there's no indication of where his read changed?

like it doesn't matter if rit flips cop before milo claims, but afterwards, that makes milo look bad. lol >< so yeah i can see people coming to that conclusion well before the tracker claim on d2, in all honesty. not sure how tmi it is?



On July 12 2015 02:50 rsoultin wrote:
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On July 12 2015 02:44 Harkon wrote:
On July 12 2015 02:38 rsoultin wrote:
On July 12 2015 02:34 ritoky wrote:
On July 12 2015 02:22 Harkon wrote:
But anyways. We will deal with him tomorrow - if there is a vig shoot MZ instead.

Why do you think MZ could be town btw, ritoky?


He could be town cuz he insulted people after basically not being here, read the thread upon re-entry, wanted a lynch that was not a primary wagon (could be tmi), and hasn't fucked off entirely. I think I have played 1 game with MZ when he was mafia and he legit just fucked off to dodge out on conversations he didn't wanna be a part of. He also seemed really obsessed with KSC, which probably means they aren't together....and I think KSC is kinda pretty mafia.

If he is mafia, it is cuz of shit like this:

On July 08 2015 09:47 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On July 08 2015 09:43 KelsierSC wrote:
On July 08 2015 09:41 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Ohh also the post here:
On July 08 2015 02:58 Vivax wrote:
Would lynch Wave.

He didn't do jack all to push something. As town he should compose a certain threat level to scum players but i I were scum this game I would just assume he's a docile sheep that won't hurt me, simply cause he'd be on my team.

There's a bit of questioning there, a few townreads here, an angry vote on HF somewhere, but I totallly don't get a vibe of ambition to find the mafia from his posts.


zero follow up after this and given how wave has been playing it smells like scum vivax throwing out a safe read onto a fellow red who is in no danger of being lynched (wave).

But more on Wave later.
<3 5ever mang but I haven't seen the sunshine and rainbows I was expecting in your filter


i would now be interested in your read on damdred

tell me what you think

I'm on page 123, he hasn't had any posts that gave me serious concern that I remember. Null town? I feel like he had a post where he shared some suspicions I had.



On July 08 2015 09:53 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On July 08 2015 09:49 KelsierSC wrote:
On July 08 2015 09:47 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On July 08 2015 09:43 KelsierSC wrote:
On July 08 2015 09:41 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Ohh also the post here:
On July 08 2015 02:58 Vivax wrote:
Would lynch Wave.

He didn't do jack all to push something. As town he should compose a certain threat level to scum players but i I were scum this game I would just assume he's a docile sheep that won't hurt me, simply cause he'd be on my team.

There's a bit of questioning there, a few townreads here, an angry vote on HF somewhere, but I totallly don't get a vibe of ambition to find the mafia from his posts.


zero follow up after this and given how wave has been playing it smells like scum vivax throwing out a safe read onto a fellow red who is in no danger of being lynched (wave).

But more on Wave later.
<3 5ever mang but I haven't seen the sunshine and rainbows I was expecting in your filter


i would now be interested in your read on damdred

tell me what you think

I'm on page 123, he hasn't had any posts that gave me serious concern that I remember. Null town? I feel like he had a post where he shared some suspicions I had.


do you have any thoughts on rsoul or LS

sorry to keep distracing you

I think rsoultin is probably town and I also think the RS/HF dispute is green on green.

idk about LS, not really on my radar but probably worth a read through when I finish.



that was where i waffled?

like...i don't know him and maybe he's really just ballsy as shit (i'll admit that i'll do this as either alignment, but it's more foolish than ballsy xP), but if you're scum and people like marv are scumreading you in a game like this where marv is like all but above suspicion, it just seems like a really bad idea to start insulting the shit out of him -shrugs-

i guess that's wifom but it's enough to make me waffle, anyway. plus, as i said, i kinda get where he was going with the ritoky/milo thing. not sure i fully agree with it but i can see how you can say "well the second guy who claimed it saw what happened with the first"

hold on let me review something...

For MZ take a look at PYP: League of Legends mafia. He continuously antagonized the townies who pushed him and tried to ridicule them. Exactly like he did with marv here. It is actually one of the reasons why he is mafia.


oh...well nvm then >< lol


@ hts...there's nothing verifiable about the "tmi" accusation lol >< i thought that accusing mz of tmi in the first place was a stretch. read the quotes in the spoiler

jat's saying that i should just sheep him, marv and ls on their reads, cause i'm so well-known for like sheeping people blindly and shit xP i didn't even look at the meta you're looking up, and even if i had i doubt it would have changed the fact that the main, actual accusation against mz...that he had tmi regarding rit and milo...i disagreed with

essentially, you're wasting your time. you either believe or disbelieve that my read on mz came from tmi...i didn't take the meta into account when i posted

and jat still thinks that i tmi in my scumgames cause of the hard-buss on him in my very first one lol ><

It wasn't the hard bus. It was the nonstop defending of scummy townies. And no, the tmi accusation was not the main thing against MZ.

So, regarding our lynch today:

The only way milo is not scum is if there are 2 scum roleblockers. I have never seen 2 roleblockers ever in any game so that seems pretty damn unlikely to me (it is possible though). If damdred/milo are both scum we don't have that many claimed roles so far either so 2 rbs would also not be balanced in my opinion (especially since most of our roles have limited shots). So to not lynch milo I would need a damn good reason to think he is town.

So I took a look at his filter - his day1 was not so bad and had me think "maybe I need to at least entertain the possibility of him being town". Then I read the rest -> "lol, nope".

We are lynching him today and you clowns will all fall in line like good little sheep and this does not mean you shouldn't discuss anything else today.
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
July 13 2015 08:09 GMT
#5892
I'm kinda sad people didn't pile up on hf because that was so fake that martying like not even alignment indicative fake I don't think town it scum hf would just let himself get lynched so I wanted to see where it went

I see people are questioning their ksc reads and it's a shame he hasn't actually posted in the thread at all but I still want to and will townreads him for his early stuff felt very natural

Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
July 13 2015 08:27 GMT
#5893
On July 13 2015 17:09 Breshke wrote:
I'm kinda sad people didn't pile up on hf because that was so fake that martying like not even alignment indicative fake I don't think town it scum hf would just let himself get lynched so I wanted to see where it went

I see people are questioning their ksc reads and it's a shame he hasn't actually posted in the thread at all but I still want to and will townreads him for his early stuff felt very natural



Hi Breshke.

What exactly are you saying? Like I read this a couple of times and....
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22091 Posts
July 13 2015 08:54 GMT
#5894
On July 13 2015 16:31 Clarity_nl wrote:
I don't like Kelsier not being here and he did seem rather whatever about the d1 lynch, but I still think he's town.

As for Vivax:
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On July 12 2015 23:05 Vivax wrote:
I wanna suggest we actually all go back and look at EoD 1 given that scum should have had quite the zero fucks attitude on who gets lynched given both wagons were towns, so my assumption is they didn't show much interest into the lynch but at the same time gave some overly complicated explanation, so that's where I'll be looking now.

What do you think about this assumption?


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On July 13 2015 02:55 Vivax wrote:
Btw I'm also onboard a Kelsier lynch. D1 his uninvolvement and jokey stuff was fine but now he's plain forgettable.

So I'd lynch into those three dudes (Blueh, Scott, Kelsier) and as for milo I'll need to think harder about him.


I'd be okay with a vivax lynch next. He gives out townreads like nobody's business yet has no opinion on milo who has been talked about as a lynch candidate since d1. He states scum probably didn't give a shit about the d1 lynch (convenient as he called everyone dumb for switching to BM, but did nothing to stop it), says kelsier might be scum, but somehow says his d1 is fine despite kelsier being indifferent as fuck during the last hour of d1.

I'm fine with scott too.


So your argument is that I'm mafia cause I don't talk about popular lynch candidates and made an assumption basically nobody disagreed with to try and form some reads? Plus as town I'm somehow supposed to not give townreads?

What is this trash of a post.
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
July 13 2015 08:58 GMT
#5895
On July 13 2015 17:54 Vivax wrote:
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On July 13 2015 16:31 Clarity_nl wrote:
I don't like Kelsier not being here and he did seem rather whatever about the d1 lynch, but I still think he's town.

As for Vivax:
On July 12 2015 23:05 Vivax wrote:
I wanna suggest we actually all go back and look at EoD 1 given that scum should have had quite the zero fucks attitude on who gets lynched given both wagons were towns, so my assumption is they didn't show much interest into the lynch but at the same time gave some overly complicated explanation, so that's where I'll be looking now.

What do you think about this assumption?


On July 13 2015 02:55 Vivax wrote:
Btw I'm also onboard a Kelsier lynch. D1 his uninvolvement and jokey stuff was fine but now he's plain forgettable.

So I'd lynch into those three dudes (Blueh, Scott, Kelsier) and as for milo I'll need to think harder about him.


I'd be okay with a vivax lynch next. He gives out townreads like nobody's business yet has no opinion on milo who has been talked about as a lynch candidate since d1. He states scum probably didn't give a shit about the d1 lynch (convenient as he called everyone dumb for switching to BM, but did nothing to stop it), says kelsier might be scum, but somehow says his d1 is fine despite kelsier being indifferent as fuck during the last hour of d1.

I'm fine with scott too.


So your argument is that I'm mafia cause I don't talk about popular lynch candidates and made an assumption basically nobody disagreed with to try and form some reads? Plus as town I'm somehow supposed to not give townreads?

What is this trash of a post.


It's only part of it, but yes. You're generally just very uninvolved, very happily being ignored by the majority of the game and how it's possible for you as town to not have some kinda thoughts on milo is beyond me.

You suggested we all go back to read EOD 1 which clearly you did not do otherwise you would have pointed out that Kelsier, who you just said is your scumread, was totally indifferent around lynchtime, yet somehow you say his d1 is fine? Hence me putting the quotes back to back.

Honestly I read you as scum because you simply do not care about this game, and from what I remember from town!Vivax is that he cared about the game as town.

Milo is getting lynched today, yet somehow you're fine with not having a read on him just yet? Yeah right.

Scummers gonna scum
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22091 Posts
July 13 2015 09:16 GMT
#5896
Your case is tons of generic bullshit that says I didn't go look at D1 only cause I didn't look at Kelsier, who I said I was fine with at the time cause D1s don't hold much information anyway, so I'm more able to tolerate people caring less or trolling, just like I ignored Palmar.

Saying I'm uninvolved is a blanket statement with no examples that's entirely false given my scum meta.

I also don't see the issue with not having a definite opinion on milo, but if he ends up being mafia I'll call you out for TMI with this case. Cause he's not the only guy I didn't give a definite read on yet you treat him as something special, clearly.

Also still didn't answer how me giving townreads makes me mafia. You just put it in there to add some more generic bs on the pile methinks.
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
July 13 2015 09:26 GMT
#5897
On July 13 2015 18:16 Vivax wrote:
Your case is tons of generic bullshit that says I didn't go look at D1 only cause I didn't look at Kelsier, who I said I was fine with at the time cause D1s don't hold much information anyway, so I'm more able to tolerate people caring less or trolling, just like I ignored Palmar.

Saying I'm uninvolved is a blanket statement with no examples that's entirely false given my scum meta.

I also don't see the issue with not having a definite opinion on milo, but if he ends up being mafia I'll call you out for TMI with this case. Cause he's not the only guy I didn't give a definite read on yet you treat him as something special, clearly.

Also still didn't answer how me giving townreads makes me mafia. You just put it in there to add some more generic bs on the pile methinks.


I do see an issue with not having a read or trying to get a read on milo, he's getting lynched today. But you don't really care.

Deflecting my read as "generic statements" is ridiculous. I could easily back up my statements by filter diving you, but I cba right now.

Anyway, off the top of my head:

Your entry into the thread was kinda poor. It reminds me of whatever the name of that game was where I rolled scum and I showed up into the game late and felt pressured to have original thoughts so I ignored everything that had happened and just made a case on someone that no one had called scum yet.

"Guys, you're all being idiots for lynching BM" during EoD1 offering no alternative and just being happy in letting it happen anyway, the exact indifference you're pointing out is scummy.

Throwing out random townreads with no explanation, ignoring everything that's happening. It's just very minimal effort. It's very easy as scum to just show up, not really pay attention, look at a townie's post and call them town for it.

You're completely disconnected from the game.

If you wanna link some scumgames of yours I can take a look, though. You know, later.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22091 Posts
July 13 2015 09:32 GMT
#5898
If I have only one argument for not lynching BM and it's his claim, I'm not gonna make up some more since I didn't have anything else to read him with. If that argument was there, correct and still not accepted, I see nothing else to do except call the guys going for BM idiots. You're saying I didn't flail around enough? What did you expect me to do about BM instead?
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 13 2015 09:34 GMT
#5899
hello boys
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
July 13 2015 09:40 GMT
#5900
On July 13 2015 18:34 marvellosity wrote:
hello boys


Hello marv. On a scale of 1/10 how sad are you MZ flipped town?

I'm kinda worried, probably not needed, but I do remember you as scum doing the whole "I was wrong I'll just sheep you guys from now on" thing. have any thoughts on things? Like Vivax?
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
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