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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
July 09 2015 21:15 GMT
#4341
On July 10 2015 06:12 Clarity_nl wrote:
Holyflare if you are town could you stop arguing/get mad at people you think are very likely scum?

If you are scum, carry on.


i can't help it, i'm really in a bad mood and whenever i post something someone else does some silly shit or calls me mafia and it just puts me right back in that bad mood

i want an actual game of people that listen to things i contribute or at least converse with me about why they are wrong or right but instead it's little quips or just flat out ignoring or calling me scummy or just hard defending the person i'm bringing up points on while shit fighting with me
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 09 2015 21:15 GMT
#4342
i'm gonna survive for days, this is horrible
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
July 09 2015 21:15 GMT
#4343
On July 10 2015 06:14 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2015 06:14 LightningStrike wrote:
On July 10 2015 06:12 Clarity_nl wrote:
On July 10 2015 06:10 LightningStrike wrote:
On July 10 2015 06:05 ritoky wrote:
On July 10 2015 06:03 LightningStrike wrote:
I wont let you guys lynch me that easily.


so you're here and reading and electing to contribute nothing. isn't that your mafia meta?

Rolf I am the 2 Shot Gunsmith I already gave someone a gun I wont name them and if they are reading this: Don't claim that you have a gun.


WHY THE FUCK WOULD YOU CLAIM THIS

I was just trying to shut down Damdred's push onto me since he's clearly scum at this point.

if he's clearly scum then his push is irrelevant

use your brain, deary


what brain?
Zerg for Life
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
July 09 2015 21:16 GMT
#4344
Geript should feel bad for,this.
milo109
Profile Joined May 2015
466 Posts
July 09 2015 21:16 GMT
#4345
On July 10 2015 06:13 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2015 06:11 milo109 wrote:
On July 10 2015 06:02 Holyflare wrote:
On July 10 2015 06:01 milo109 wrote:
On July 10 2015 05:58 Holyflare wrote:
On July 10 2015 05:48 milo109 wrote:
On July 10 2015 05:43 Holyflare wrote:
On July 10 2015 05:41 milo109 wrote:
On July 10 2015 05:36 Holyflare wrote:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/488082-tl-mafia-lxxi-gaiden?page=212#4222

respond to this milo because it quite blatantly points out your lapse in logic


There is no lapse in logic. I said I had you as scum day 1. You said I did it for wrong reasons. That's an opinion, not fact, unlike my statement.


There is lapse in logic. You said you scum read me for a reason which was wrong. I corrected that reason and you agreed. You still scum read me for that reason. You also did not have mz in your list of scum reads but you became so suddenly certain that MZ was mafia that you decided to base everything off of that. You ignore the fact that i'm pushing the majority of your scum reads and still scum read me. You can say "oh but mafia can push their buddies" like you did last time but there is absolutely no way that you think i'm mafia with both HtS AND rsoulting. No way. It doesn't make sense.

You then say that even though I was pushing your scum list and the reason you originally scum read me for disappeared that I'm still scum anyway because my play is so obvious? What is so obvious about it and what makes it so scummy since you know, pushing your list of scum reads doesn't sound scummy to me.


I think you have a misunderstanding of logic. I no longer scum read you because of that post. Logic is using facts to derive others. It's not about opinions. Unless I was blatantly lying, I had no lapse in logic. And I wasn't. I no longer think you are mafia with HtS and rsoultin. The thing about your play now is the way you stick by your reads even in the oddest of hypotheticals, in the weirdest of conspiracies, when common sense should tell you otherwise. Also.. this whole train of quotes is full of play that is either from the point of view of mafia, or a town that just wants to be called town instead of winning the game.


No. You DID scum read me because of that post even after I corrected you. It's in my case right there for all to see, the quote you used. What's wrong with me sticking by my reads? I think marv pointed out excellent points on MZ at night and it made me rethink my read on you and decide that from your perspective as someone in your SECOND game that coming up with "that was definitely a deflection off of mafia mz" before mz had even really done anything (and his posts weren't that bad at the time) made absolutely no sense in the slightest. That is your first instance of TMI.

Then, today, you fake claim on clarity and get a towny reaction from it and still call him mafia for nothing. You see damdred getting screwed over by Geript and in a world where you see JAT getting shot as veteran you STILL call damdred town????? It doesn't make sense at all. You seem to think that there is a veteran a banisher a jailkeeper and 2 cops and that's all been revealed in one/two cycles? Every post you make just oozes of you knowing what happened at night and making decisions based off of that. There is no confusion behind your posts.


There is no confusion because this entire game has been about whether or not the claims are real. And I know that I am real. Also, obviously the switch off of MZ was suspicious. I tried to freaking lynch him. Read my past posts if you want to know why it was suspicious. I'm off to make a case on Scott.


How on earth was it suspicious in the slightest? MZ starts posting, Bill Murray has posted nothing and has claimed wanderer as mafia in the past. Why is that suspicious and don't you dare just say go check my past posts. Re-answer this if you have already because I don't see anything suspicious about it in the slightest.


That it would be organized and happen to so quickly. MZ was acting odd by not wanting to lynch BM. Why? Nobody seemed to ask that question. BM didn't even try to defend himself. How is that more mafia than what MZ had done? BM had CLAIMED A ROLE. Why would you lynch him first?


why do you ignore the part of the post that explains why people would lynch bm for claiming a role and ask why we would lynch bm for claiming a role?
Show nested quote +

Bill Murray has posted nothing and has claimed wanderer as mafia in the past


Why is it suspicious that MZ doesn't want to lynch BM in the slightest?

Like your whole argument is that "It's totally suspicious that mz doesn't want to lynch bm! you guys are scummy for wanting to lynch bm!"

if you're talking about logic good sir, that has 0 of it


Here. I will make this very simple. If you are town and there is a obvious choice between you and one other person, you always try to switch to them. You know why? You -know- you are town. You might think they are the towniest person on the planet, but there is still the chance that they are mafia. Unless you're cheating of course.
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
July 09 2015 21:16 GMT
#4346
On July 10 2015 06:14 Damdred wrote:
Smh anyway I can't fully explain last night night actions to an extent.



I want you to try your damdest (punny) to explain as much of what you think likely happened.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
milo109
Profile Joined May 2015
466 Posts
July 09 2015 21:17 GMT
#4347
On July 10 2015 06:15 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2015 06:12 Clarity_nl wrote:
Holyflare if you are town could you stop arguing/get mad at people you think are very likely scum?

If you are scum, carry on.


i can't help it, i'm really in a bad mood and whenever i post something someone else does some silly shit or calls me mafia and it just puts me right back in that bad mood

i want an actual game of people that listen to things i contribute or at least converse with me about why they are wrong or right but instead it's little quips or just flat out ignoring or calling me scummy or just hard defending the person i'm bringing up points on while shit fighting with me


I've done my best to respond to your posts in a reasonable manner. You're the one who escalated this.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
July 09 2015 21:17 GMT
#4348
Holyflare is still scum.

##vote Damdred
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
July 09 2015 21:17 GMT
#4349
On July 10 2015 06:15 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2015 06:12 Clarity_nl wrote:
Holyflare if you are town could you stop arguing/get mad at people you think are very likely scum?

If you are scum, carry on.


i can't help it, i'm really in a bad mood and whenever i post something someone else does some silly shit or calls me mafia and it just puts me right back in that bad mood

i want an actual game of people that listen to things i contribute or at least converse with me about why they are wrong or right but instead it's little quips or just flat out ignoring or calling me scummy or just hard defending the person i'm bringing up points on while shit fighting with me


Ok I'm gonna just say this once HF, apparently you're a smart guy so you'll get this, are you ready?

IF THEY ARE SCUM, THEN THERE IS NO REASON TO GET MAD AT THEM FOR DOING SCUMMY THINGS OR DUMB THINGS. WHY ARE YOU MAD AT YOUR SCUMREADS.

Okay?
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
July 09 2015 21:18 GMT
#4350
On July 10 2015 06:14 boxerfred wrote:
Gets unreal by now. So many blues. If that claim is true, it makes it even more likely that Damdred and Milo are scum. Whichever way it turns out to be, I feel like we have indeed two scum members among the blue claims.

Actually it doesn't even matter if that claim is true. The claim confirms (to me) that there are two scum members among the blue claims and removes the like ~2% chance that there's 0 scum among all the blue claims.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
July 09 2015 21:18 GMT
#4351
On July 10 2015 06:16 milo109 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2015 06:13 Holyflare wrote:
On July 10 2015 06:11 milo109 wrote:
On July 10 2015 06:02 Holyflare wrote:
On July 10 2015 06:01 milo109 wrote:
On July 10 2015 05:58 Holyflare wrote:
On July 10 2015 05:48 milo109 wrote:
On July 10 2015 05:43 Holyflare wrote:
On July 10 2015 05:41 milo109 wrote:
On July 10 2015 05:36 Holyflare wrote:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/488082-tl-mafia-lxxi-gaiden?page=212#4222

respond to this milo because it quite blatantly points out your lapse in logic


There is no lapse in logic. I said I had you as scum day 1. You said I did it for wrong reasons. That's an opinion, not fact, unlike my statement.


There is lapse in logic. You said you scum read me for a reason which was wrong. I corrected that reason and you agreed. You still scum read me for that reason. You also did not have mz in your list of scum reads but you became so suddenly certain that MZ was mafia that you decided to base everything off of that. You ignore the fact that i'm pushing the majority of your scum reads and still scum read me. You can say "oh but mafia can push their buddies" like you did last time but there is absolutely no way that you think i'm mafia with both HtS AND rsoulting. No way. It doesn't make sense.

You then say that even though I was pushing your scum list and the reason you originally scum read me for disappeared that I'm still scum anyway because my play is so obvious? What is so obvious about it and what makes it so scummy since you know, pushing your list of scum reads doesn't sound scummy to me.


I think you have a misunderstanding of logic. I no longer scum read you because of that post. Logic is using facts to derive others. It's not about opinions. Unless I was blatantly lying, I had no lapse in logic. And I wasn't. I no longer think you are mafia with HtS and rsoultin. The thing about your play now is the way you stick by your reads even in the oddest of hypotheticals, in the weirdest of conspiracies, when common sense should tell you otherwise. Also.. this whole train of quotes is full of play that is either from the point of view of mafia, or a town that just wants to be called town instead of winning the game.


No. You DID scum read me because of that post even after I corrected you. It's in my case right there for all to see, the quote you used. What's wrong with me sticking by my reads? I think marv pointed out excellent points on MZ at night and it made me rethink my read on you and decide that from your perspective as someone in your SECOND game that coming up with "that was definitely a deflection off of mafia mz" before mz had even really done anything (and his posts weren't that bad at the time) made absolutely no sense in the slightest. That is your first instance of TMI.

Then, today, you fake claim on clarity and get a towny reaction from it and still call him mafia for nothing. You see damdred getting screwed over by Geript and in a world where you see JAT getting shot as veteran you STILL call damdred town????? It doesn't make sense at all. You seem to think that there is a veteran a banisher a jailkeeper and 2 cops and that's all been revealed in one/two cycles? Every post you make just oozes of you knowing what happened at night and making decisions based off of that. There is no confusion behind your posts.


There is no confusion because this entire game has been about whether or not the claims are real. And I know that I am real. Also, obviously the switch off of MZ was suspicious. I tried to freaking lynch him. Read my past posts if you want to know why it was suspicious. I'm off to make a case on Scott.


How on earth was it suspicious in the slightest? MZ starts posting, Bill Murray has posted nothing and has claimed wanderer as mafia in the past. Why is that suspicious and don't you dare just say go check my past posts. Re-answer this if you have already because I don't see anything suspicious about it in the slightest.


That it would be organized and happen to so quickly. MZ was acting odd by not wanting to lynch BM. Why? Nobody seemed to ask that question. BM didn't even try to defend himself. How is that more mafia than what MZ had done? BM had CLAIMED A ROLE. Why would you lynch him first?


why do you ignore the part of the post that explains why people would lynch bm for claiming a role and ask why we would lynch bm for claiming a role?

Bill Murray has posted nothing and has claimed wanderer as mafia in the past


Why is it suspicious that MZ doesn't want to lynch BM in the slightest?

Like your whole argument is that "It's totally suspicious that mz doesn't want to lynch bm! you guys are scummy for wanting to lynch bm!"

if you're talking about logic good sir, that has 0 of it


Here. I will make this very simple. If you are town and there is a obvious choice between you and one other person, you always try to switch to them. You know why? You -know- you are town. You might think they are the towniest person on the planet, but there is still the chance that they are mafia. Unless you're cheating of course.


nah this is bull shit

you scum read everyone for wanting to switch to bm
you scum read mz for wanting to not switch to bm
now you scum read scott for wanting to stay on mz ^^

ok dude
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
July 09 2015 21:18 GMT
#4352
Actions went like this

I was in my mason qt with Geript and he came up with the plan to fake a track on me to rot so that we could gather information and around 24 hours before,lynch we reveal,and get the vote off me.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
July 09 2015 21:18 GMT
#4353
On July 10 2015 06:17 Clarity_nl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2015 06:15 Holyflare wrote:
On July 10 2015 06:12 Clarity_nl wrote:
Holyflare if you are town could you stop arguing/get mad at people you think are very likely scum?

If you are scum, carry on.


i can't help it, i'm really in a bad mood and whenever i post something someone else does some silly shit or calls me mafia and it just puts me right back in that bad mood

i want an actual game of people that listen to things i contribute or at least converse with me about why they are wrong or right but instead it's little quips or just flat out ignoring or calling me scummy or just hard defending the person i'm bringing up points on while shit fighting with me


Ok I'm gonna just say this once HF, apparently you're a smart guy so you'll get this, are you ready?

IF THEY ARE SCUM, THEN THERE IS NO REASON TO GET MAD AT THEM FOR DOING SCUMMY THINGS OR DUMB THINGS. WHY ARE YOU MAD AT YOUR SCUMREADS.

Okay?


I know you're typing it and I already know that argument. It doesn't stop it happening and I don't know they are scum either. It's also people that are towny that are doing it too.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
July 09 2015 21:19 GMT
#4354
Geript has already hinted at this in his filter so,move your votes he will,confirm,when he returns
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
July 09 2015 21:19 GMT
#4355
now we can DEFINITELY LYNCH MILO FOR THIS TMI BULL SHIT PLZ TY OK
milo109
Profile Joined May 2015
466 Posts
July 09 2015 21:19 GMT
#4356
On July 10 2015 06:18 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2015 06:16 milo109 wrote:
On July 10 2015 06:13 Holyflare wrote:
On July 10 2015 06:11 milo109 wrote:
On July 10 2015 06:02 Holyflare wrote:
On July 10 2015 06:01 milo109 wrote:
On July 10 2015 05:58 Holyflare wrote:
On July 10 2015 05:48 milo109 wrote:
On July 10 2015 05:43 Holyflare wrote:
On July 10 2015 05:41 milo109 wrote:
[quote]

There is no lapse in logic. I said I had you as scum day 1. You said I did it for wrong reasons. That's an opinion, not fact, unlike my statement.


There is lapse in logic. You said you scum read me for a reason which was wrong. I corrected that reason and you agreed. You still scum read me for that reason. You also did not have mz in your list of scum reads but you became so suddenly certain that MZ was mafia that you decided to base everything off of that. You ignore the fact that i'm pushing the majority of your scum reads and still scum read me. You can say "oh but mafia can push their buddies" like you did last time but there is absolutely no way that you think i'm mafia with both HtS AND rsoulting. No way. It doesn't make sense.

You then say that even though I was pushing your scum list and the reason you originally scum read me for disappeared that I'm still scum anyway because my play is so obvious? What is so obvious about it and what makes it so scummy since you know, pushing your list of scum reads doesn't sound scummy to me.


I think you have a misunderstanding of logic. I no longer scum read you because of that post. Logic is using facts to derive others. It's not about opinions. Unless I was blatantly lying, I had no lapse in logic. And I wasn't. I no longer think you are mafia with HtS and rsoultin. The thing about your play now is the way you stick by your reads even in the oddest of hypotheticals, in the weirdest of conspiracies, when common sense should tell you otherwise. Also.. this whole train of quotes is full of play that is either from the point of view of mafia, or a town that just wants to be called town instead of winning the game.


No. You DID scum read me because of that post even after I corrected you. It's in my case right there for all to see, the quote you used. What's wrong with me sticking by my reads? I think marv pointed out excellent points on MZ at night and it made me rethink my read on you and decide that from your perspective as someone in your SECOND game that coming up with "that was definitely a deflection off of mafia mz" before mz had even really done anything (and his posts weren't that bad at the time) made absolutely no sense in the slightest. That is your first instance of TMI.

Then, today, you fake claim on clarity and get a towny reaction from it and still call him mafia for nothing. You see damdred getting screwed over by Geript and in a world where you see JAT getting shot as veteran you STILL call damdred town????? It doesn't make sense at all. You seem to think that there is a veteran a banisher a jailkeeper and 2 cops and that's all been revealed in one/two cycles? Every post you make just oozes of you knowing what happened at night and making decisions based off of that. There is no confusion behind your posts.


There is no confusion because this entire game has been about whether or not the claims are real. And I know that I am real. Also, obviously the switch off of MZ was suspicious. I tried to freaking lynch him. Read my past posts if you want to know why it was suspicious. I'm off to make a case on Scott.


How on earth was it suspicious in the slightest? MZ starts posting, Bill Murray has posted nothing and has claimed wanderer as mafia in the past. Why is that suspicious and don't you dare just say go check my past posts. Re-answer this if you have already because I don't see anything suspicious about it in the slightest.


That it would be organized and happen to so quickly. MZ was acting odd by not wanting to lynch BM. Why? Nobody seemed to ask that question. BM didn't even try to defend himself. How is that more mafia than what MZ had done? BM had CLAIMED A ROLE. Why would you lynch him first?


why do you ignore the part of the post that explains why people would lynch bm for claiming a role and ask why we would lynch bm for claiming a role?

Bill Murray has posted nothing and has claimed wanderer as mafia in the past


Why is it suspicious that MZ doesn't want to lynch BM in the slightest?

Like your whole argument is that "It's totally suspicious that mz doesn't want to lynch bm! you guys are scummy for wanting to lynch bm!"

if you're talking about logic good sir, that has 0 of it


Here. I will make this very simple. If you are town and there is a obvious choice between you and one other person, you always try to switch to them. You know why? You -know- you are town. You might think they are the towniest person on the planet, but there is still the chance that they are mafia. Unless you're cheating of course.


nah this is bull shit

you scum read everyone for wanting to switch to bm
you scum read mz for wanting to not switch to bm
now you scum read scott for wanting to stay on mz ^^

ok dude


OK now you're over simplifying. We'll get there. I scum read everyone for wanting to switch to BM because he was a bad choice. I scum read MZ for not switching to BM because he was the only choice. And I scum read Scott for it because of the contradiction in his own words.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
July 09 2015 21:19 GMT
#4357
unless you're messing with my heart then fu damdy
milo109
Profile Joined May 2015
466 Posts
July 09 2015 21:20 GMT
#4358
On July 10 2015 06:18 Holyflare wrote:

Okay?

I don't know they are scum either. [/QUOTE]

:o
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
July 09 2015 21:20 GMT
#4359
On July 10 2015 06:18 boxerfred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2015 06:14 boxerfred wrote:
Gets unreal by now. So many blues. If that claim is true, it makes it even more likely that Damdred and Milo are scum. Whichever way it turns out to be, I feel like we have indeed two scum members among the blue claims.

Actually it doesn't even matter if that claim is true. The claim confirms (to me) that there are two scum members among the blue claims and removes the like ~2% chance that there's 0 scum among all the blue claims.

I agree Milo and Damdred are most likely scum together.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
July 09 2015 21:20 GMT
#4360
On July 10 2015 06:19 milo109 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2015 06:18 Holyflare wrote:
On July 10 2015 06:16 milo109 wrote:
On July 10 2015 06:13 Holyflare wrote:
On July 10 2015 06:11 milo109 wrote:
On July 10 2015 06:02 Holyflare wrote:
On July 10 2015 06:01 milo109 wrote:
On July 10 2015 05:58 Holyflare wrote:
On July 10 2015 05:48 milo109 wrote:
On July 10 2015 05:43 Holyflare wrote:
[quote]

There is lapse in logic. You said you scum read me for a reason which was wrong. I corrected that reason and you agreed. You still scum read me for that reason. You also did not have mz in your list of scum reads but you became so suddenly certain that MZ was mafia that you decided to base everything off of that. You ignore the fact that i'm pushing the majority of your scum reads and still scum read me. You can say "oh but mafia can push their buddies" like you did last time but there is absolutely no way that you think i'm mafia with both HtS AND rsoulting. No way. It doesn't make sense.

You then say that even though I was pushing your scum list and the reason you originally scum read me for disappeared that I'm still scum anyway because my play is so obvious? What is so obvious about it and what makes it so scummy since you know, pushing your list of scum reads doesn't sound scummy to me.


I think you have a misunderstanding of logic. I no longer scum read you because of that post. Logic is using facts to derive others. It's not about opinions. Unless I was blatantly lying, I had no lapse in logic. And I wasn't. I no longer think you are mafia with HtS and rsoultin. The thing about your play now is the way you stick by your reads even in the oddest of hypotheticals, in the weirdest of conspiracies, when common sense should tell you otherwise. Also.. this whole train of quotes is full of play that is either from the point of view of mafia, or a town that just wants to be called town instead of winning the game.


No. You DID scum read me because of that post even after I corrected you. It's in my case right there for all to see, the quote you used. What's wrong with me sticking by my reads? I think marv pointed out excellent points on MZ at night and it made me rethink my read on you and decide that from your perspective as someone in your SECOND game that coming up with "that was definitely a deflection off of mafia mz" before mz had even really done anything (and his posts weren't that bad at the time) made absolutely no sense in the slightest. That is your first instance of TMI.

Then, today, you fake claim on clarity and get a towny reaction from it and still call him mafia for nothing. You see damdred getting screwed over by Geript and in a world where you see JAT getting shot as veteran you STILL call damdred town????? It doesn't make sense at all. You seem to think that there is a veteran a banisher a jailkeeper and 2 cops and that's all been revealed in one/two cycles? Every post you make just oozes of you knowing what happened at night and making decisions based off of that. There is no confusion behind your posts.


There is no confusion because this entire game has been about whether or not the claims are real. And I know that I am real. Also, obviously the switch off of MZ was suspicious. I tried to freaking lynch him. Read my past posts if you want to know why it was suspicious. I'm off to make a case on Scott.


How on earth was it suspicious in the slightest? MZ starts posting, Bill Murray has posted nothing and has claimed wanderer as mafia in the past. Why is that suspicious and don't you dare just say go check my past posts. Re-answer this if you have already because I don't see anything suspicious about it in the slightest.


That it would be organized and happen to so quickly. MZ was acting odd by not wanting to lynch BM. Why? Nobody seemed to ask that question. BM didn't even try to defend himself. How is that more mafia than what MZ had done? BM had CLAIMED A ROLE. Why would you lynch him first?


why do you ignore the part of the post that explains why people would lynch bm for claiming a role and ask why we would lynch bm for claiming a role?

Bill Murray has posted nothing and has claimed wanderer as mafia in the past


Why is it suspicious that MZ doesn't want to lynch BM in the slightest?

Like your whole argument is that "It's totally suspicious that mz doesn't want to lynch bm! you guys are scummy for wanting to lynch bm!"

if you're talking about logic good sir, that has 0 of it


Here. I will make this very simple. If you are town and there is a obvious choice between you and one other person, you always try to switch to them. You know why? You -know- you are town. You might think they are the towniest person on the planet, but there is still the chance that they are mafia. Unless you're cheating of course.


nah this is bull shit

you scum read everyone for wanting to switch to bm
you scum read mz for wanting to not switch to bm
now you scum read scott for wanting to stay on mz ^^

ok dude


OK now you're over simplifying. We'll get there. I scum read everyone for wanting to switch to BM because he was a bad choice. I scum read MZ for not switching to BM because he was the only choice. And I scum read Scott for it because of the contradiction in his own words.


so why do you completely bypass my original post all over again: how is BM a bad choice when he's done the exact same thing as mafia before
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