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boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
July 09 2015 21:10 GMT
#4321
On July 10 2015 06:08 boxerfred wrote:
ah you sniped me. gonna read through that, given it's supposed to be a list of your contributions?

if that question is a 'yes', I can just say that I don't think this is solid, usable stuff on rsoultin. reads more like "you know guys, I think that's strange." without any follow up.
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
July 09 2015 21:10 GMT
#4322
On July 10 2015 06:05 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2015 06:03 LightningStrike wrote:
I wont let you guys lynch me that easily.


so you're here and reading and electing to contribute nothing. isn't that your mafia meta?

Rolf I am the 2 Shot Gunsmith I already gave someone a gun I wont name them and if they are reading this: Don't claim that you have a gun.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
Harkon
Profile Joined June 2015
569 Posts
July 09 2015 21:11 GMT
#4323
On July 10 2015 06:05 Holyflare wrote:
You don't even think for a second about anything i've done this game and instead throw in little shitty quips that clearly just derail anything i'm doing and call me mafia for the sake of it, it's frustrating as fuck

That's not true and I won't go on about it.

Look, I get that it is frustrating to be scumread if you are town. If that's the case then forgive me for assuming you would be mentally stable enough to endure being scumread by me as town. You pull this assholish emo shit as mafia, we both know it.
milo109
Profile Joined May 2015
466 Posts
July 09 2015 21:11 GMT
#4324
On July 10 2015 06:02 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2015 06:01 milo109 wrote:
On July 10 2015 05:58 Holyflare wrote:
On July 10 2015 05:48 milo109 wrote:
On July 10 2015 05:43 Holyflare wrote:
On July 10 2015 05:41 milo109 wrote:
On July 10 2015 05:36 Holyflare wrote:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/488082-tl-mafia-lxxi-gaiden?page=212#4222

respond to this milo because it quite blatantly points out your lapse in logic


There is no lapse in logic. I said I had you as scum day 1. You said I did it for wrong reasons. That's an opinion, not fact, unlike my statement.


There is lapse in logic. You said you scum read me for a reason which was wrong. I corrected that reason and you agreed. You still scum read me for that reason. You also did not have mz in your list of scum reads but you became so suddenly certain that MZ was mafia that you decided to base everything off of that. You ignore the fact that i'm pushing the majority of your scum reads and still scum read me. You can say "oh but mafia can push their buddies" like you did last time but there is absolutely no way that you think i'm mafia with both HtS AND rsoulting. No way. It doesn't make sense.

You then say that even though I was pushing your scum list and the reason you originally scum read me for disappeared that I'm still scum anyway because my play is so obvious? What is so obvious about it and what makes it so scummy since you know, pushing your list of scum reads doesn't sound scummy to me.


I think you have a misunderstanding of logic. I no longer scum read you because of that post. Logic is using facts to derive others. It's not about opinions. Unless I was blatantly lying, I had no lapse in logic. And I wasn't. I no longer think you are mafia with HtS and rsoultin. The thing about your play now is the way you stick by your reads even in the oddest of hypotheticals, in the weirdest of conspiracies, when common sense should tell you otherwise. Also.. this whole train of quotes is full of play that is either from the point of view of mafia, or a town that just wants to be called town instead of winning the game.


No. You DID scum read me because of that post even after I corrected you. It's in my case right there for all to see, the quote you used. What's wrong with me sticking by my reads? I think marv pointed out excellent points on MZ at night and it made me rethink my read on you and decide that from your perspective as someone in your SECOND game that coming up with "that was definitely a deflection off of mafia mz" before mz had even really done anything (and his posts weren't that bad at the time) made absolutely no sense in the slightest. That is your first instance of TMI.

Then, today, you fake claim on clarity and get a towny reaction from it and still call him mafia for nothing. You see damdred getting screwed over by Geript and in a world where you see JAT getting shot as veteran you STILL call damdred town????? It doesn't make sense at all. You seem to think that there is a veteran a banisher a jailkeeper and 2 cops and that's all been revealed in one/two cycles? Every post you make just oozes of you knowing what happened at night and making decisions based off of that. There is no confusion behind your posts.


There is no confusion because this entire game has been about whether or not the claims are real. And I know that I am real. Also, obviously the switch off of MZ was suspicious. I tried to freaking lynch him. Read my past posts if you want to know why it was suspicious. I'm off to make a case on Scott.


How on earth was it suspicious in the slightest? MZ starts posting, Bill Murray has posted nothing and has claimed wanderer as mafia in the past. Why is that suspicious and don't you dare just say go check my past posts. Re-answer this if you have already because I don't see anything suspicious about it in the slightest.


That it would be organized and happen to so quickly. MZ was acting odd by not wanting to lynch BM. Why? Nobody seemed to ask that question. BM didn't even try to defend himself. How is that more mafia than what MZ had done? BM had CLAIMED A ROLE. Why would you lynch him first?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 09 2015 21:11 GMT
#4325
oh ffs lightningstrike
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 09 2015 21:12 GMT
#4326
rofl

LS does it again
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
July 09 2015 21:12 GMT
#4327
Holyflare if you are town could you stop arguing/get mad at people you think are very likely scum?

If you are scum, carry on.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Harkon
Profile Joined June 2015
569 Posts
July 09 2015 21:12 GMT
#4328
On July 10 2015 06:10 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2015 06:05 ritoky wrote:
On July 10 2015 06:03 LightningStrike wrote:
I wont let you guys lynch me that easily.


so you're here and reading and electing to contribute nothing. isn't that your mafia meta?

Rolf I am the 2 Shot Gunsmith I already gave someone a gun I wont name them and if they are reading this: Don't claim that you have a gun.

Will you ever stop claiming at the slightest sign of pressure? Fuck's sake man.
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
July 09 2015 21:12 GMT
#4329
On July 10 2015 06:10 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2015 06:05 ritoky wrote:
On July 10 2015 06:03 LightningStrike wrote:
I wont let you guys lynch me that easily.


so you're here and reading and electing to contribute nothing. isn't that your mafia meta?

Rolf I am the 2 Shot Gunsmith I already gave someone a gun I wont name them and if they are reading this: Don't claim that you have a gun.


WHY THE FUCK WOULD YOU CLAIM THIS
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 09 2015 21:13 GMT
#4330
guys, just laugh resignedly, don't get mad.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 09 2015 21:13 GMT
#4331
On July 10 2015 06:11 milo109 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2015 06:02 Holyflare wrote:
On July 10 2015 06:01 milo109 wrote:
On July 10 2015 05:58 Holyflare wrote:
On July 10 2015 05:48 milo109 wrote:
On July 10 2015 05:43 Holyflare wrote:
On July 10 2015 05:41 milo109 wrote:
On July 10 2015 05:36 Holyflare wrote:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/488082-tl-mafia-lxxi-gaiden?page=212#4222

respond to this milo because it quite blatantly points out your lapse in logic


There is no lapse in logic. I said I had you as scum day 1. You said I did it for wrong reasons. That's an opinion, not fact, unlike my statement.


There is lapse in logic. You said you scum read me for a reason which was wrong. I corrected that reason and you agreed. You still scum read me for that reason. You also did not have mz in your list of scum reads but you became so suddenly certain that MZ was mafia that you decided to base everything off of that. You ignore the fact that i'm pushing the majority of your scum reads and still scum read me. You can say "oh but mafia can push their buddies" like you did last time but there is absolutely no way that you think i'm mafia with both HtS AND rsoulting. No way. It doesn't make sense.

You then say that even though I was pushing your scum list and the reason you originally scum read me for disappeared that I'm still scum anyway because my play is so obvious? What is so obvious about it and what makes it so scummy since you know, pushing your list of scum reads doesn't sound scummy to me.


I think you have a misunderstanding of logic. I no longer scum read you because of that post. Logic is using facts to derive others. It's not about opinions. Unless I was blatantly lying, I had no lapse in logic. And I wasn't. I no longer think you are mafia with HtS and rsoultin. The thing about your play now is the way you stick by your reads even in the oddest of hypotheticals, in the weirdest of conspiracies, when common sense should tell you otherwise. Also.. this whole train of quotes is full of play that is either from the point of view of mafia, or a town that just wants to be called town instead of winning the game.


No. You DID scum read me because of that post even after I corrected you. It's in my case right there for all to see, the quote you used. What's wrong with me sticking by my reads? I think marv pointed out excellent points on MZ at night and it made me rethink my read on you and decide that from your perspective as someone in your SECOND game that coming up with "that was definitely a deflection off of mafia mz" before mz had even really done anything (and his posts weren't that bad at the time) made absolutely no sense in the slightest. That is your first instance of TMI.

Then, today, you fake claim on clarity and get a towny reaction from it and still call him mafia for nothing. You see damdred getting screwed over by Geript and in a world where you see JAT getting shot as veteran you STILL call damdred town????? It doesn't make sense at all. You seem to think that there is a veteran a banisher a jailkeeper and 2 cops and that's all been revealed in one/two cycles? Every post you make just oozes of you knowing what happened at night and making decisions based off of that. There is no confusion behind your posts.


There is no confusion because this entire game has been about whether or not the claims are real. And I know that I am real. Also, obviously the switch off of MZ was suspicious. I tried to freaking lynch him. Read my past posts if you want to know why it was suspicious. I'm off to make a case on Scott.


How on earth was it suspicious in the slightest? MZ starts posting, Bill Murray has posted nothing and has claimed wanderer as mafia in the past. Why is that suspicious and don't you dare just say go check my past posts. Re-answer this if you have already because I don't see anything suspicious about it in the slightest.


That it would be organized and happen to so quickly. MZ was acting odd by not wanting to lynch BM. Why? Nobody seemed to ask that question. BM didn't even try to defend himself. How is that more mafia than what MZ had done? BM had CLAIMED A ROLE. Why would you lynch him first?


why do you ignore the part of the post that explains why people would lynch bm for claiming a role and ask why we would lynch bm for claiming a role?

Bill Murray has posted nothing and has claimed wanderer as mafia in the past


Why is it suspicious that MZ doesn't want to lynch BM in the slightest?

Like your whole argument is that "It's totally suspicious that mz doesn't want to lynch bm! you guys are scummy for wanting to lynch bm!"

if you're talking about logic good sir, that has 0 of it
milo109
Profile Joined May 2015
466 Posts
July 09 2015 21:13 GMT
#4332
On July 10 2015 05:57 ritoky wrote:
For the love of God, please just do this milo. If you're town this argument is just shitting up the thread right now:

Show nested quote +
On July 10 2015 05:50 ritoky wrote:
Hey milo, can you make an accusation on one of your other scum reads instead?


scott, BF, clarity, and MZ were all on your list. pick one and go.



Sorry. Lots to address. Who is BF? Am I blanking? Anyway. The case on Scott..

I only just started and I found this gem,
On July 07 2015 03:40 scott31337 wrote:

I know it was a joke but was it to get distracted off of rsoul? It sure feels that way...

I'm only at page 58 - here's my spreedsheet of love.
1) Marvellosity  townie after the morning
2) Scott31337  town
3) WaveofShadow  Voted HF weirdly
4) Clarity_nl  mixed it with HF / slight town
5) ruXxar  slight town
6) Vivax  Meh/null of scum defends trfel
7) Bill Murray  wanderer claim
8) ritoky  slight town
9) geript  slight town
10) boxerfred  null meh posts fakeclaim cop to distract from rsoul.
11) Meapak_Ziphh 
12) Trfel  Crap start but can be a big poster too
13) LightningStrike  Meh/Damdred brings up good conclusions on his meta / looking up cases
14) Palmar  Called boxerfred town which I don’t like/believe in
15) ObiWanShinobi  Bad vote on HF / scumlean
16) KelsierSC  Trying to think the game / townlean
17) milo109  scumlean ,towns HF / Oats / Wave
18) Breshke  Ehh
19) Oatsmaster  Says Clarity /WoS mafia
20) Damdred  Slight town going after LS
21) rsoultin  not a great defense when pressured, scumlean
22) Half The Sky  miller claim / decent listpost
23) Harkon  Smurf - maybe JAT? Ehhh
24) Holyflare  Mindmelt opening - town
25) XEliteBlueHunter69X 

I'll be back in a couple hours after I eat and finish the thread.


He slight town reads everybody but Holyflare. Odd. The only person he calls scum is rsoultin, OWS and I. Millions of town leans can be indicative of mafia.

On July 08 2015 06:27 scott31337 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2015 06:19 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
lol decided to refresh the vote thread and discovered I'm being killed. I'm currently on page 57, I legitimately have not read this thread. The vote on Clarity was so I didn't get modkilled as he was the scummiest person I found in the first 5 pages.

Top scum reads right now are clarity, milo, and trfel. There are also probably a red or two in the beginning of my wagon as well as the end of my wagon. I'm going to keep catching up but I'll leave another tab open with the current page and refresh it every so often.


Why were you AFK for so long?


He lobs a softball to MZ, and then says this later,

On July 08 2015 06:52 scott31337 wrote:
I want to go back to Ziphh


Why? He offered Ziphh another day to play. Why did he want to switch back?

Also... Why does no one call Scott on TMI? -_- I'm not, because I think it's a dumb argument. But you notice that they only used the TMI on me.

And then his latest post is an attempted catch on me that is dumb.

LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
July 09 2015 21:14 GMT
#4333
On July 10 2015 06:12 Clarity_nl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2015 06:10 LightningStrike wrote:
On July 10 2015 06:05 ritoky wrote:
On July 10 2015 06:03 LightningStrike wrote:
I wont let you guys lynch me that easily.


so you're here and reading and electing to contribute nothing. isn't that your mafia meta?

Rolf I am the 2 Shot Gunsmith I already gave someone a gun I wont name them and if they are reading this: Don't claim that you have a gun.


WHY THE FUCK WOULD YOU CLAIM THIS

I was just trying to shut down Damdred's push onto me since he's clearly scum at this point.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
July 09 2015 21:14 GMT
#4334
On July 10 2015 06:13 marvellosity wrote:
guys, just laugh resignedly, don't get mad.


Too late. But I'll try to get over it quickly.

Like there's 0% chance of him getting lynched, why the fuck would he claim anything.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
July 09 2015 21:14 GMT
#4335
Smh anyway I can't fully explain last night night actions to an extent.

Harkon
Profile Joined June 2015
569 Posts
July 09 2015 21:14 GMT
#4336
On July 10 2015 06:13 marvellosity wrote:
guys, just laugh resignedly, don't get mad.

It's not that bad anyways since the rb will hopefully be dead soon.
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
July 09 2015 21:14 GMT
#4337
Gets unreal by now. So many blues. If that claim is true, it makes it even more likely that Damdred and Milo are scum. Whichever way it turns out to be, I feel like we have indeed two scum members among the blue claims.
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
July 09 2015 21:14 GMT
#4338
On July 10 2015 06:10 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2015 06:05 ritoky wrote:
On July 10 2015 06:03 LightningStrike wrote:
I wont let you guys lynch me that easily.


so you're here and reading and electing to contribute nothing. isn't that your mafia meta?

Rolf I am the 2 Shot Gunsmith I already gave someone a gun I wont name them and if they are reading this: Don't claim that you have a gun.


15 votes on some1 else, no real lynch pressure, probably no way you're getting lynched today....just why...
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
July 09 2015 21:14 GMT
#4339
On July 10 2015 06:14 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2015 06:12 Clarity_nl wrote:
On July 10 2015 06:10 LightningStrike wrote:
On July 10 2015 06:05 ritoky wrote:
On July 10 2015 06:03 LightningStrike wrote:
I wont let you guys lynch me that easily.


so you're here and reading and electing to contribute nothing. isn't that your mafia meta?

Rolf I am the 2 Shot Gunsmith I already gave someone a gun I wont name them and if they are reading this: Don't claim that you have a gun.


WHY THE FUCK WOULD YOU CLAIM THIS

I was just trying to shut down Damdred's push onto me since he's clearly scum at this point.


OH I SEE, SO SCUM WAS PUSHING YOU AND GAINING 0 TRACTION, SO YOU TOLD SCUM YOUR ROLE, GOOD JOB, YOU STOPPED YOURSELF FROM GETTING LYNCHED.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 09 2015 21:14 GMT
#4340
On July 10 2015 06:14 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2015 06:12 Clarity_nl wrote:
On July 10 2015 06:10 LightningStrike wrote:
On July 10 2015 06:05 ritoky wrote:
On July 10 2015 06:03 LightningStrike wrote:
I wont let you guys lynch me that easily.


so you're here and reading and electing to contribute nothing. isn't that your mafia meta?

Rolf I am the 2 Shot Gunsmith I already gave someone a gun I wont name them and if they are reading this: Don't claim that you have a gun.


WHY THE FUCK WOULD YOU CLAIM THIS

I was just trying to shut down Damdred's push onto me since he's clearly scum at this point.

if he's clearly scum then his push is irrelevant

use your brain, deary
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
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