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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 07 2015 19:49 GMT
#2601
yes, it's totally a legitimate sentiment that you don't want to answer any of my questions and watch me crap up the thread repeatedly asking you because you want to avoid me shitting up the thread, ok >_>

On July 08 2015 03:25 Holyflare wrote:
HtS: "HF, how can you think milo and myself are mafia together, that's scummy!"
HF: "It doesn't matter to me, I read people as scum independently!"
HtS: "I think HF is scummy and also milo!"


?????????????????

On July 08 2015 01:27 Half the Sky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2015 01:19 Holyflare wrote:
2) Scott31337 (filter)
3) WaveofShadow (filter)
6) Vivax (filter)
7) Bill Murray (filter)
8) ritoky (filter)
11) Meapak_Ziphh (filter)
15) ObiWanShinobi (filter)
17) milo109 (filter)
19) Oatsmaster (filter)
21) rsoultin (filter)
22) Half The Sky (filter)


I think I do want to remove scott too maybe... his list post just made me feel good

bolded i would lynch today probably and the rest is because i'm being super lazy and just not reading to get a better idea of


On mobile atm but I have two questions for you:

I'm reading your filter, you've been pushing Trfel for 11/13 pages of your filter. Then I see a "maybe/maybe not" as your last comment so how did that Trfel read just disappear?

Second, milo and ritoky are my top two scum reads. I've been abundantly clear where I stood on both all game. You mean to say that if we are on a scum team together that I'd be bussing two of my teammates?

Or put it another way, if you are pushing my lynch you would be voting with me (a scum read) on either milo or ritoky.

Does not compute.


why has your stance changed completely from earlier when you used the opposite stance to scum read me?

Why also are you ignoring my statement about your own play. If you take posts like Milo's out of context (such as his read on trfel but you said it was on LS so in fact it was wrong) then why is it scummy that you think I did it once when if you are town you have done it multiple times?
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
July 07 2015 19:50 GMT
#2602
On July 08 2015 04:49 Clarity_nl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2015 04:48 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On July 08 2015 04:46 Clarity_nl wrote:
On July 08 2015 04:45 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On July 08 2015 04:34 ritoky wrote:
Can we just go back to what I was saying before this milo thing happened?

A no-lynch is worse than lynching a 1-shot cop imo. So please consolidate on me or HtS. I do not want a no-lynch on day 1, it is awful.


Do you guys really think mafia makes this post?



Yes. It seems super desperate. Town should be going "FUCKING LYNCH HTS OBV SCUM WTF ARE YOU GUYS DOING", not martyring the shit out of themselves.


It is literally the exact opposite of desperate.
What you think town should be doing and what town actually does are two completely different things.


I'm just saying mafia can make this post, the post in itself does not make mafia.

But I do think ti looks desperate. I agree town doesn't always does what it should but this whole "I'm town, lynching confirmed town is better than no-lynching" is very likely to come from scum.


This post contains so much derp, I can't even.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 07 2015 19:50 GMT
#2603
On July 08 2015 04:45 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
In what world does mafia go "the best play here is to lynch me/this other person with majority votes" and then questions people on why they're not doing so?


me last game!?
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 07 2015 19:52 GMT
#2604
On July 08 2015 04:49 Clarity_nl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2015 04:48 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On July 08 2015 04:46 Clarity_nl wrote:
On July 08 2015 04:45 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On July 08 2015 04:34 ritoky wrote:
Can we just go back to what I was saying before this milo thing happened?

A no-lynch is worse than lynching a 1-shot cop imo. So please consolidate on me or HtS. I do not want a no-lynch on day 1, it is awful.


Do you guys really think mafia makes this post?



Yes. It seems super desperate. Town should be going "FUCKING LYNCH HTS OBV SCUM WTF ARE YOU GUYS DOING", not martyring the shit out of themselves.


It is literally the exact opposite of desperate.
What you think town should be doing and what town actually does are two completely different things.


I'm just saying mafia can make this post, the post in itself does not make mafia.

But I do think ti looks desperate. I agree town doesn't always does what it should but this whole "I'm town, lynching confirmed town is better than no-lynching" is very likely to come from scum.


No, I don't really think so.
Martyring almost always comes from town.
Retired.
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
July 07 2015 19:52 GMT
#2605
People need to move their votes. There are still 7 votes on milo and I am pretty sure he is also a cop like me. Even if you think that we're not cops and there's 1 mafia between us, you're still lynching me over him because he has a 2-shot ability and I have a 1-shot.

As I said, consolidate onto HtS or me.

Vote movement please.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
Harkon
Profile Joined June 2015
569 Posts
July 07 2015 19:52 GMT
#2606
On July 08 2015 04:52 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2015 04:49 Clarity_nl wrote:
On July 08 2015 04:48 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On July 08 2015 04:46 Clarity_nl wrote:
On July 08 2015 04:45 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On July 08 2015 04:34 ritoky wrote:
Can we just go back to what I was saying before this milo thing happened?

A no-lynch is worse than lynching a 1-shot cop imo. So please consolidate on me or HtS. I do not want a no-lynch on day 1, it is awful.


Do you guys really think mafia makes this post?



Yes. It seems super desperate. Town should be going "FUCKING LYNCH HTS OBV SCUM WTF ARE YOU GUYS DOING", not martyring the shit out of themselves.


It is literally the exact opposite of desperate.
What you think town should be doing and what town actually does are two completely different things.


I'm just saying mafia can make this post, the post in itself does not make mafia.

But I do think ti looks desperate. I agree town doesn't always does what it should but this whole "I'm town, lynching confirmed town is better than no-lynching" is very likely to come from scum.


No, I don't really think so.
Martyring almost always comes from town.

No, it doesn't.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 07 2015 19:53 GMT
#2607
On July 08 2015 04:50 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2015 04:45 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
In what world does mafia go "the best play here is to lynch me/this other person with majority votes" and then questions people on why they're not doing so?


me last game!?


This is bullshit and you know it.
Not everyone is you.
Retired.
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
July 07 2015 19:53 GMT
#2608
On July 06 2015 11:41 milo109 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2015 11:40 scott31337 wrote:
You are actually going to have to be towny this game milo - BH will modkill you if you try that unvote cred in his game.

>.< I'll find some other way to avoid it. Anything but projecting towny.


Milo, can you explain this statement?
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 07 2015 19:53 GMT
#2609
On July 08 2015 04:52 Harkon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2015 04:52 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On July 08 2015 04:49 Clarity_nl wrote:
On July 08 2015 04:48 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On July 08 2015 04:46 Clarity_nl wrote:
On July 08 2015 04:45 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On July 08 2015 04:34 ritoky wrote:
Can we just go back to what I was saying before this milo thing happened?

A no-lynch is worse than lynching a 1-shot cop imo. So please consolidate on me or HtS. I do not want a no-lynch on day 1, it is awful.


Do you guys really think mafia makes this post?



Yes. It seems super desperate. Town should be going "FUCKING LYNCH HTS OBV SCUM WTF ARE YOU GUYS DOING", not martyring the shit out of themselves.


It is literally the exact opposite of desperate.
What you think town should be doing and what town actually does are two completely different things.


I'm just saying mafia can make this post, the post in itself does not make mafia.

But I do think ti looks desperate. I agree town doesn't always does what it should but this whole "I'm town, lynching confirmed town is better than no-lynching" is very likely to come from scum.


No, I don't really think so.
Martyring almost always comes from town.

No, it doesn't.


Yes it does?
Retired.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22305 Posts
July 07 2015 19:53 GMT
#2610
On July 08 2015 04:52 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2015 04:49 Clarity_nl wrote:
On July 08 2015 04:48 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On July 08 2015 04:46 Clarity_nl wrote:
On July 08 2015 04:45 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On July 08 2015 04:34 ritoky wrote:
Can we just go back to what I was saying before this milo thing happened?

A no-lynch is worse than lynching a 1-shot cop imo. So please consolidate on me or HtS. I do not want a no-lynch on day 1, it is awful.


Do you guys really think mafia makes this post?



Yes. It seems super desperate. Town should be going "FUCKING LYNCH HTS OBV SCUM WTF ARE YOU GUYS DOING", not martyring the shit out of themselves.


It is literally the exact opposite of desperate.
What you think town should be doing and what town actually does are two completely different things.


I'm just saying mafia can make this post, the post in itself does not make mafia.

But I do think ti looks desperate. I agree town doesn't always does what it should but this whole "I'm town, lynching confirmed town is better than no-lynching" is very likely to come from scum.


No, I don't really think so.
Martyring almost always comes from town.


And you point this out to push what lynch instead?
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
July 07 2015 19:53 GMT
#2611
On July 08 2015 04:52 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2015 04:49 Clarity_nl wrote:
On July 08 2015 04:48 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On July 08 2015 04:46 Clarity_nl wrote:
On July 08 2015 04:45 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On July 08 2015 04:34 ritoky wrote:
Can we just go back to what I was saying before this milo thing happened?

A no-lynch is worse than lynching a 1-shot cop imo. So please consolidate on me or HtS. I do not want a no-lynch on day 1, it is awful.


Do you guys really think mafia makes this post?



Yes. It seems super desperate. Town should be going "FUCKING LYNCH HTS OBV SCUM WTF ARE YOU GUYS DOING", not martyring the shit out of themselves.


It is literally the exact opposite of desperate.
What you think town should be doing and what town actually does are two completely different things.


I'm just saying mafia can make this post, the post in itself does not make mafia.

But I do think ti looks desperate. I agree town doesn't always does what it should but this whole "I'm town, lynching confirmed town is better than no-lynching" is very likely to come from scum.


No, I don't really think so.
Martyring almost always comes from town.


That's a ridiculous statement.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
July 07 2015 19:53 GMT
#2612
On July 08 2015 03:54 scott31337 wrote:
So about Milo -

Show nested quote +
On July 08 2015 00:13 marvellosity wrote:
On July 07 2015 23:30 Harkon wrote:
This post is definitely a pretty bold statement especially since it isn't paired with any reason as to why.
On July 07 2015 11:37 milo109 wrote:
Meh. I think LS is a better lynch. Your case is unconvincing.


i thought the same about that comment


Show nested quote +
On July 07 2015 10:46 scott31337 wrote:
On July 07 2015 10:40 milo109 wrote:
Alright... Explanations for my reads. First of all, I've played one game. That game I happened to be scum and won. Perhaps my opening strategy is not indicative of alignment, as you have nothing to compare it to. I've not had as much time to devote to the game as I would like, so I threw out my gut reads. The game is hard when you're town. Almost everything is justifiable in one way or the other, which makes it hard to find certainty.

On July 06 2015 11:07 milo109 wrote:
I'm mildly certain Kelsier is scum.


I read this:
On July 06 2015 11:01 KelsierSC wrote:
On July 06 2015 10:59 milo109 wrote:
Holy Crap this game is big.


like my dong


On July 06 2015 09:16 KelsierSC wrote:
scptt fuck you


On July 06 2015 08:00 KelsierSC wrote:
aight, I can beleeee dat


Dislike the dumb jokes. This is mildly amusing because my first read in my other game was based on tone too.


On July 06 2015 11:20 milo109 wrote:
Hmmm. I feel like I should post more but I don't have much more. Leaning town on Holyflare, and I want to call WaveofShadow also town. But I can't.


I liked WaveofShadow just for his tone, but wasn't willing to pronounce him town for it. Holyflare's filter was a pleasure to read. No reads that felt discordant or forced. Casual enough, but also not afraid to explain.

On July 06 2015 11:24 milo109 wrote:
It's harder to read Damdred when you aren't mafia. I'm gonna call him mafia here though.


He usually waits to start calling people trash.


I hope you have more then this because you just voted for LS and haven't said shit about him in your filter. Was it Trfel's case?


He replies with
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2015 10:47 milo109 wrote:
It was his filter. I haven't read Trfel's case yet. Good on him though.


And his reasons are

Show nested quote +
On July 07 2015 10:50 milo109 wrote:
I hate all these posts.

On July 06 2015 07:36 LightningStrike wrote:
On July 06 2015 07:35 rsoultin wrote:
no, i'm the copcake!

...........


On July 06 2015 11:21 LightningStrike wrote:
Also I liking you this game KSC if you care just don't be a dick to me this game please? <3



On July 06 2015 22:23 LightningStrike wrote:
Good morning Tina any thoughts you would like to share?



Some quotes which I really do not see LS as alignment indictive - which is one of the reasons I think milo is scummy.

Show nested quote +
On July 08 2015 02:00 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Not feeling an HTS lynch.

Try again town.


The most townie thing OWS has done all game.

My updated spreadsheet -

1) Marvellosity  townie been picking it up the last 36 hours with good marv thoughts
2) Scott31337  town
3) WaveofShadow  Voted HF weirdly (actually never did in thread) / null
4) Clarity_nl  mixed it with HF / slight town - defends Damdreds case ok - wants to lynch Vivax/BM/Milo
5) ruXxar  slight town/proviing insight of game - suspicious of rsoul, quite diff. then last game scums vivax/oats
6) Vivax  Meh/null of scum defends trfel calls Rsoul town
7) Bill Murray  wanderer claim/hasn't done shit otherwise, no CC
8) ritoky  reads boxer as town as well, claimed one shot cop, scum OBS
9) geript  slight town but could be doing this as either alignment - keep an eye out
10) boxerfred  scumlean posts fakeclaim cop to distract from rsoul. Scummers reading him town/votes HF with no solid reasoning. Seems to jump on any bandwagon lynch (oats, now clarity) Now HTS back to Oats
11) Meapak_Ziphh  No posts still as of yet.
12) Trfel  Crap start - really different from his last game - added apologies - don’t think he's mafia though. Unsure what to do with him.
13) LightningStrike  slight town Damdred brings up good conclusions on his meta / looking up cases had an okay defense
14) Palmar  Called boxerfred town which I don’t like/believe in but providing analysis - slight town
15) ObiWanShinobi  Bad vote on HF / scumlean - wants to lynch me for no reasons
16) KelsierSC  Trying to think the game / townlean
17) milo109  scumlean ,towns HF / Oats / Wave - voted LS for bad filter reading
18) Breshke  A post or two I like asking LS about me - could be anything - weak mafia read on me - nullish town
19) Oatsmaster  Says Clarity /WoS mafia now wants to vote HTS although - scumlean
20) Damdred  Slight town going after LS believes in his case on Clarity but I think Clarity's town
21) rsoultin  not a great defense when pressured, paranoid of her - scumlean
22) Half The Sky  miller claim / decent listpost - flipped read on HF after being questioned which was weird - slight townlean
23) Harkon  Smurf - JAT? Suspicious of ritoky's claim, but. Slight town
24) Holyflare  Mindmelt opening - Doesn't like certain Rsoul's play - town lean (day 3/4 alive watch out)
25) XEliteBlueHunter69X  Null- Vivax/Geript possible scum - Palmar town

I'm down most for a Milo lynch. I'm caught up in the thread.

@Boxerfred can you give an updated scum list? You just seem to be bouncing and voting and hoping to get something to stick - you went from HF (which you townread now?) to Oats, to HTS and then back to Oats. Are they all scummy?

@Breshke are you still scumreading me? Can you give me the reasoning of such?


This is a huge pile of words that does not say much.

@Boxerfred can you give an updated scum list? You just seem to be bouncing and voting and hoping to get something to stick - you went from HF (which you townread now?) to Oats, to HTS and then back to Oats. Are they all scummy?


No changes apart from HF. My scum reads are clarity, oats, wave, trfel, ritoky. My slight lean is HtS.

10) boxerfred  scumlean posts fakeclaim cop to distract from rsoul. Scummers reading him town/votes HF with no solid reasoning. Seems to jump on any bandwagon lynch (oats, now clarity) Now HTS back to Oats


I explained why I fakeclaimed post and why I abstained from it.
In a majority scenario, of course I jump trains. Though I'm not jumping on any bandwagon. What I did was thoroughly explaining my scum reads, then going after Oats. Which I still do.

I don't like the list you throw out. Some of the guys you read town are having a town lean on me (e.g. Damdred) although you say they are scum. Why are you reading him town although he's leaning me town?

Also, you basically have an opinion on everyone but refrain from putting some real pressure on people?

Scott, I'm not buying this as an effort.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 07 2015 19:53 GMT
#2613
On July 08 2015 04:53 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2015 04:50 Holyflare wrote:
On July 08 2015 04:45 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
In what world does mafia go "the best play here is to lynch me/this other person with majority votes" and then questions people on why they're not doing so?


me last game!?


This is bullshit and you know it.
Not everyone is you.


ritoky was in that game
ritoky saw me martyr and lynch the town cop
ritoky recreates?

how is that bull shit???
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 07 2015 19:54 GMT
#2614
anyone wanna do some crazy shenanigans onto people that nobody has mentioned for ages? :D
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 07 2015 19:54 GMT
#2615
On July 08 2015 04:53 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2015 04:53 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On July 08 2015 04:50 Holyflare wrote:
On July 08 2015 04:45 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
In what world does mafia go "the best play here is to lynch me/this other person with majority votes" and then questions people on why they're not doing so?


me last game!?


This is bullshit and you know it.
Not everyone is you.


ritoky was in that game
ritoky saw me martyr and lynch the town cop
ritoky recreates?

how is that bull shit???


There's nothing here that indicates that ritoky is mafia for doing so.
Retired.
scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
July 07 2015 19:55 GMT
#2616
On July 08 2015 04:52 ritoky wrote:
People need to move their votes. There are still 7 votes on milo and I am pretty sure he is also a cop like me. Even if you think that we're not cops and there's 1 mafia between us, you're still lynching me over him because he has a 2-shot ability and I have a 1-shot.

As I said, consolidate onto HtS or me.

Vote movement please.


He'll be roleblocked/killed anyway - why would it matter two shot one shot? I don't see the reasoning here. He looks scummier then you.
THIS WAGON IS HITTING MAFIA FOR SURE BOYS!
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
July 07 2015 19:55 GMT
#2617
On July 08 2015 04:54 Holyflare wrote:
anyone wanna do some crazy shenanigans onto people that nobody has mentioned for ages? :D


Who would you prefer, Palmar or Vivax?
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 07 2015 19:55 GMT
#2618
On July 08 2015 04:54 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2015 04:53 Holyflare wrote:
On July 08 2015 04:53 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On July 08 2015 04:50 Holyflare wrote:
On July 08 2015 04:45 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
In what world does mafia go "the best play here is to lynch me/this other person with majority votes" and then questions people on why they're not doing so?


me last game!?


This is bullshit and you know it.
Not everyone is you.


ritoky was in that game
ritoky saw me martyr and lynch the town cop
ritoky recreates?

how is that bull shit???


There's nothing here that indicates that ritoky is mafia for doing so.


yes and there's 0 things to indicate that he's town doing it, congratulations
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
July 07 2015 19:55 GMT
#2619
On July 08 2015 04:54 Holyflare wrote:
anyone wanna do some crazy shenanigans onto people that nobody has mentioned for ages? :D


Who we considering?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 07 2015 19:55 GMT
#2620
On July 08 2015 04:53 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2015 04:52 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On July 08 2015 04:49 Clarity_nl wrote:
On July 08 2015 04:48 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On July 08 2015 04:46 Clarity_nl wrote:
On July 08 2015 04:45 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On July 08 2015 04:34 ritoky wrote:
Can we just go back to what I was saying before this milo thing happened?

A no-lynch is worse than lynching a 1-shot cop imo. So please consolidate on me or HtS. I do not want a no-lynch on day 1, it is awful.


Do you guys really think mafia makes this post?



Yes. It seems super desperate. Town should be going "FUCKING LYNCH HTS OBV SCUM WTF ARE YOU GUYS DOING", not martyring the shit out of themselves.


It is literally the exact opposite of desperate.
What you think town should be doing and what town actually does are two completely different things.


I'm just saying mafia can make this post, the post in itself does not make mafia.

But I do think ti looks desperate. I agree town doesn't always does what it should but this whole "I'm town, lynching confirmed town is better than no-lynching" is very likely to come from scum.


No, I don't really think so.
Martyring almost always comes from town.


And you point this out to push what lynch instead?


I'm working on it.
I'm still of the mind to kill EBH.
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