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boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
July 07 2015 19:55 GMT
#2621
I don't think I'll vote for ritoky today. Said before why (not lynching un-cc'ed blue claim if I have other reads).
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
July 07 2015 19:56 GMT
#2622
On July 08 2015 04:55 boxerfred wrote:
I don't think I'll vote for ritoky today. Said before why (not lynching un-cc'ed blue claim if I have other reads).


LLLLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLL
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
July 07 2015 19:56 GMT
#2623
On July 08 2015 04:55 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2015 04:54 Holyflare wrote:
anyone wanna do some crazy shenanigans onto people that nobody has mentioned for ages? :D


Who we considering?


well that's the problem you see, i dunno!
scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
July 07 2015 19:56 GMT
#2624
On July 08 2015 04:53 boxerfred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2015 03:54 scott31337 wrote:
So about Milo -

On July 08 2015 00:13 marvellosity wrote:
On July 07 2015 23:30 Harkon wrote:
This post is definitely a pretty bold statement especially since it isn't paired with any reason as to why.
On July 07 2015 11:37 milo109 wrote:
Meh. I think LS is a better lynch. Your case is unconvincing.


i thought the same about that comment


On July 07 2015 10:46 scott31337 wrote:
On July 07 2015 10:40 milo109 wrote:
Alright... Explanations for my reads. First of all, I've played one game. That game I happened to be scum and won. Perhaps my opening strategy is not indicative of alignment, as you have nothing to compare it to. I've not had as much time to devote to the game as I would like, so I threw out my gut reads. The game is hard when you're town. Almost everything is justifiable in one way or the other, which makes it hard to find certainty.

On July 06 2015 11:07 milo109 wrote:
I'm mildly certain Kelsier is scum.


I read this:
On July 06 2015 11:01 KelsierSC wrote:
On July 06 2015 10:59 milo109 wrote:
Holy Crap this game is big.


like my dong


On July 06 2015 09:16 KelsierSC wrote:
scptt fuck you


On July 06 2015 08:00 KelsierSC wrote:
aight, I can beleeee dat


Dislike the dumb jokes. This is mildly amusing because my first read in my other game was based on tone too.


On July 06 2015 11:20 milo109 wrote:
Hmmm. I feel like I should post more but I don't have much more. Leaning town on Holyflare, and I want to call WaveofShadow also town. But I can't.


I liked WaveofShadow just for his tone, but wasn't willing to pronounce him town for it. Holyflare's filter was a pleasure to read. No reads that felt discordant or forced. Casual enough, but also not afraid to explain.

On July 06 2015 11:24 milo109 wrote:
It's harder to read Damdred when you aren't mafia. I'm gonna call him mafia here though.


He usually waits to start calling people trash.


I hope you have more then this because you just voted for LS and haven't said shit about him in your filter. Was it Trfel's case?


He replies with
On July 07 2015 10:47 milo109 wrote:
It was his filter. I haven't read Trfel's case yet. Good on him though.


And his reasons are

On July 07 2015 10:50 milo109 wrote:
I hate all these posts.

On July 06 2015 07:36 LightningStrike wrote:
On July 06 2015 07:35 rsoultin wrote:
no, i'm the copcake!

...........


On July 06 2015 11:21 LightningStrike wrote:
Also I liking you this game KSC if you care just don't be a dick to me this game please? <3



On July 06 2015 22:23 LightningStrike wrote:
Good morning Tina any thoughts you would like to share?



Some quotes which I really do not see LS as alignment indictive - which is one of the reasons I think milo is scummy.

On July 08 2015 02:00 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Not feeling an HTS lynch.

Try again town.


The most townie thing OWS has done all game.

My updated spreadsheet -

1) Marvellosity  townie been picking it up the last 36 hours with good marv thoughts
2) Scott31337  town
3) WaveofShadow  Voted HF weirdly (actually never did in thread) / null
4) Clarity_nl  mixed it with HF / slight town - defends Damdreds case ok - wants to lynch Vivax/BM/Milo
5) ruXxar  slight town/proviing insight of game - suspicious of rsoul, quite diff. then last game scums vivax/oats
6) Vivax  Meh/null of scum defends trfel calls Rsoul town
7) Bill Murray  wanderer claim/hasn't done shit otherwise, no CC
8) ritoky  reads boxer as town as well, claimed one shot cop, scum OBS
9) geript  slight town but could be doing this as either alignment - keep an eye out
10) boxerfred  scumlean posts fakeclaim cop to distract from rsoul. Scummers reading him town/votes HF with no solid reasoning. Seems to jump on any bandwagon lynch (oats, now clarity) Now HTS back to Oats
11) Meapak_Ziphh  No posts still as of yet.
12) Trfel  Crap start - really different from his last game - added apologies - don’t think he's mafia though. Unsure what to do with him.
13) LightningStrike  slight town Damdred brings up good conclusions on his meta / looking up cases had an okay defense
14) Palmar  Called boxerfred town which I don’t like/believe in but providing analysis - slight town
15) ObiWanShinobi  Bad vote on HF / scumlean - wants to lynch me for no reasons
16) KelsierSC  Trying to think the game / townlean
17) milo109  scumlean ,towns HF / Oats / Wave - voted LS for bad filter reading
18) Breshke  A post or two I like asking LS about me - could be anything - weak mafia read on me - nullish town
19) Oatsmaster  Says Clarity /WoS mafia now wants to vote HTS although - scumlean
20) Damdred  Slight town going after LS believes in his case on Clarity but I think Clarity's town
21) rsoultin  not a great defense when pressured, paranoid of her - scumlean
22) Half The Sky  miller claim / decent listpost - flipped read on HF after being questioned which was weird - slight townlean
23) Harkon  Smurf - JAT? Suspicious of ritoky's claim, but. Slight town
24) Holyflare  Mindmelt opening - Doesn't like certain Rsoul's play - town lean (day 3/4 alive watch out)
25) XEliteBlueHunter69X  Null- Vivax/Geript possible scum - Palmar town

I'm down most for a Milo lynch. I'm caught up in the thread.

@Boxerfred can you give an updated scum list? You just seem to be bouncing and voting and hoping to get something to stick - you went from HF (which you townread now?) to Oats, to HTS and then back to Oats. Are they all scummy?

@Breshke are you still scumreading me? Can you give me the reasoning of such?


This is a huge pile of words that does not say much.

Show nested quote +
@Boxerfred can you give an updated scum list? You just seem to be bouncing and voting and hoping to get something to stick - you went from HF (which you townread now?) to Oats, to HTS and then back to Oats. Are they all scummy?


No changes apart from HF. My scum reads are clarity, oats, wave, trfel, ritoky. My slight lean is HtS.

Show nested quote +
10) boxerfred  scumlean posts fakeclaim cop to distract from rsoul. Scummers reading him town/votes HF with no solid reasoning. Seems to jump on any bandwagon lynch (oats, now clarity) Now HTS back to Oats


I explained why I fakeclaimed post and why I abstained from it.
In a majority scenario, of course I jump trains. Though I'm not jumping on any bandwagon. What I did was thoroughly explaining my scum reads, then going after Oats. Which I still do.

I don't like the list you throw out. Some of the guys you read town are having a town lean on me (e.g. Damdred) although you say they are scum. Why are you reading him town although he's leaning me town?

Also, you basically have an opinion on everyone but refrain from putting some real pressure on people?

Scott, I'm not buying this as an effort.


I put the pressure and my vote on milo almost 24 hours ago. I'm not pressuring anybody?

Try again.
THIS WAGON IS HITTING MAFIA FOR SURE BOYS!
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
July 07 2015 19:57 GMT
#2625
On July 08 2015 04:55 boxerfred wrote:
I don't think I'll vote for ritoky today. Said before why (not lynching un-cc'ed blue claim if I have other reads).


hmmmm it would be hilarious if bf and milo are mafia together and bf didn't think his partner would cc

hilarious i tell you
Harkon
Profile Joined June 2015
569 Posts
July 07 2015 19:57 GMT
#2626
On July 08 2015 04:55 boxerfred wrote:
I don't think I'll vote for ritoky today. Said before why (not lynching un-cc'ed blue claim if I have other reads).

uncced
.
.
.
.
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
July 07 2015 19:57 GMT
#2627
On July 08 2015 04:55 scott31337 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2015 04:52 ritoky wrote:
People need to move their votes. There are still 7 votes on milo and I am pretty sure he is also a cop like me. Even if you think that we're not cops and there's 1 mafia between us, you're still lynching me over him because he has a 2-shot ability and I have a 1-shot.

As I said, consolidate onto HtS or me.

Vote movement please.


He'll be roleblocked/killed anyway - why would it matter two shot one shot? I don't see the reasoning here. He looks scummier then you.


Because a two-shot ability does more potential good for town than a 1 shot ability, thus the mechanically correct play is to keep the 2-shot over the 1-shot. doesn't matter though, we're both cops. i am like 96% certain he is a cop.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
July 07 2015 19:57 GMT
#2628
I think we vote for milo purely because he didn't explain his weirdo read for me though
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
July 07 2015 19:57 GMT
#2629
On July 08 2015 04:54 Holyflare wrote:
anyone wanna do some crazy shenanigans onto people that nobody has mentioned for ages? :D


In a world where all three of us being mentioned for lynch are town, who do you think are scummers skating by?

There are two hours here, we should be expecting more people to come by you'd think for EoD. I agree on consolidation but there is still some time to talk.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
July 07 2015 19:58 GMT
#2630
On July 08 2015 04:57 Half the Sky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2015 04:54 Holyflare wrote:
anyone wanna do some crazy shenanigans onto people that nobody has mentioned for ages? :D


In a world where all three of us being mentioned for lynch are town, who do you think are scummers skating by?

There are two hours here, we should be expecting more people to come by you'd think for EoD. I agree on consolidation but there is still some time to talk.


you still need to explain your read:

you say i'm scummy for thinking you're bussing a team mate

but then you say i'm bussing my team mate

why?
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
July 07 2015 19:58 GMT
#2631
Clearly boxerfred needs to read the thread....
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21991 Posts
July 07 2015 19:58 GMT
#2632
Soon comes the talk of "this guy is getting modkilled for not voting anyway" and blah blah.

We're in for some action when the afk guys atually write some bullshit to justify an EoD vote.
Harkon
Profile Joined June 2015
569 Posts
July 07 2015 19:58 GMT
#2633
On July 08 2015 04:57 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2015 04:55 scott31337 wrote:
On July 08 2015 04:52 ritoky wrote:
People need to move their votes. There are still 7 votes on milo and I am pretty sure he is also a cop like me. Even if you think that we're not cops and there's 1 mafia between us, you're still lynching me over him because he has a 2-shot ability and I have a 1-shot.

As I said, consolidate onto HtS or me.

Vote movement please.


He'll be roleblocked/killed anyway - why would it matter two shot one shot? I don't see the reasoning here. He looks scummier then you.


Because a two-shot ability does more potential good for town than a 1 shot ability, thus the mechanically correct play is to keep the 2-shot over the 1-shot. doesn't matter though, we're both cops. i am like 96% certain he is a cop.

Even if both of you are town this is completely irrelevant because none of you will ever get a check off unless we get incredibly lucky.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
July 07 2015 19:59 GMT
#2634
I'm just saying. I'm a cop. And I have a red check on Vivax and Oats. Just throwing that one out there.
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
July 07 2015 19:59 GMT
#2635
On July 08 2015 04:55 boxerfred wrote:
I don't think I'll vote for ritoky today. Said before why (not lynching un-cc'ed blue claim if I have other reads).


We already discussed why this make little sense in 1-shot, 2-shot, multi-shot games.
It's a way higher chance of hitting an unoccupied role with your fake-claims.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
July 07 2015 19:59 GMT
#2636
well milo doesn't really care about explaining anything and he's left the thread while we fight it out? is that the case milo?
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
July 07 2015 20:00 GMT
#2637
On July 08 2015 04:57 Harkon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2015 04:55 boxerfred wrote:
I don't think I'll vote for ritoky today. Said before why (not lynching un-cc'ed blue claim if I have other reads).

uncced
.
.
.
.

Did I miss something?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
July 07 2015 20:00 GMT
#2638
On July 08 2015 04:29 milo109 wrote:
Because I hated his attack on HtS. Who I also think is scum. It's complicated.

Harkon
Profile Joined June 2015
569 Posts
July 07 2015 20:00 GMT
#2639
On July 08 2015 05:00 boxerfred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2015 04:57 Harkon wrote:
On July 08 2015 04:55 boxerfred wrote:
I don't think I'll vote for ritoky today. Said before why (not lynching un-cc'ed blue claim if I have other reads).

uncced
.
.
.
.

Did I miss something?

Yes, milo claiming cop for example.
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
July 07 2015 20:01 GMT
#2640
On July 07 2015 05:26 scott31337 wrote:
I'm thinking I like a milo lynch -

Show nested quote +
On July 06 2015 11:48 milo109 wrote:
Damn, I want to follow Oats to victory. Let me be the first to call it out from the hilltops, and let all those with pure hearts rejoice, Oatsmaster is town.


Then Ruxxar has this post -

Show nested quote +
On July 06 2015 12:03 ruXxar wrote:
Oatsy <3

I like where you're going so far.
You're showing determination in your play.
That's what I wanna see from you.

Is there a difference between your mafia scum reads, or is everyone you call mafia equally mafia?


Oats and Milo call out Ruxxar's post, but Oats does not call out Milo's post for townreading him for his "name mafia" posts. Very interesting. I'm townreading Ruxxar but not Oats and Milo.

We still have two people who haven't even posted (Zipph and Elite69) for all we know they could be two out of the five mafia right there.

The rest of his filter basically has "Damd mafia" "Keis mafia" "Oats town".

this is all I could find on you "pressuring" milo. sorry, that's not pressure.
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