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Fuck it.
/in
Let's keep the streak going. I'll be active mostly at night and mornings.
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On June 17 2015 07:32 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2015 07:31 LightningStrike wrote:On June 17 2015 07:29 GlowingBear wrote:
OHAI
I'm town Really anyone can just claim town you know -_- Show nested quote +On June 17 2015 07:06 LightningStrike wrote:
Hi guys I finally rolled town and I hope bugs had rolled town too since he played really good in the last game I played with him when I was scum vs his town :o derp.
LightningStrike already giving himself away again?...
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On June 17 2015 07:35 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2015 07:34 ShoCkeyy wrote:On June 17 2015 07:32 ritoky wrote:On June 17 2015 07:31 LightningStrike wrote:On June 17 2015 07:29 GlowingBear wrote:
OHAI
I'm town Really anyone can just claim town you know -_- On June 17 2015 07:06 LightningStrike wrote:
Hi guys I finally rolled town and I hope bugs had rolled town too since he played really good in the last game I played with him when I was scum vs his town :o derp. LightningStrike already giving himself away again?... I not scum this game I promise you that. What you think of Onegu's entrance and our responses to it?
Pretty much this
On June 17 2015 07:11 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2015 07:09 Onegu wrote:
My fucking VT claim. I really think HtS RNG machine is broken... Have rolled VT in everyone of her games... Sorry that VT claim wont fly you already cashed in on that in XXX so nice try you must prove to us that you are town other than a VT claim :o
Only thing I would add is the fact that he probably is VT this game. Last game rolled town while you were scum and the game I played with him before that, he had a fake blue claim in his posts (bbcode), haven't seen him actually claim VT once yet. But I could only take the claim with a grain of sand atm.
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rsoultin - idk wtf they're posting atm
KelsierSC - reminds me of bugs, a butthole, but a town butthole
Bill Murray - idk
ritoky - Channel 4 Choppa
ShoCkeyy - Town
Onegu - Misclaim to VT? We'll see, I'll just give him the benefit of the doubt.
Holyflare - Opening/Only post claims town lol.
Damdred
+ Show Spoiler +On June 17 2015 07:09 Damdred wrote:
So ok claiming town which means ls is scum On June 17 2015 08:29 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2015 08:25 KelsierSC wrote:On June 17 2015 08:21 Damdred wrote:On June 17 2015 08:15 KelsierSC wrote:On June 17 2015 08:09 LightningStrike wrote:On June 17 2015 08:08 NydusHerMain wrote:
I don't think LS is being that towny o.O. Am I crazy? I'm not saying he's not town but how do people have a "probs town" or "hard town" read on him already. Because they know my meta? Check the database lpus Witchcraft III for my meta if you want any  seriously can you shut the fuck up already with this shit you have just taken a shit in your hand and thrown whatever came out into the thread. I don't think your town and bringing up all this meta crap so early on is fucking irritating Even if I'm right and your town keep the bm out of thread. Its not needed even if you are annoyed at this point. I'll substantiate later, but I don't believe nhm or ls are capable of posting such as these as scum. Both are somewhat meta based reads. Kel is just a maybe town. I know I'm town obviously I also think gb is a decent shot as town but don't tell him I said that you can explain ls right now actually...what has he posted that makes him town? There's a lot of shit but nothing of real value. There are two types of people that play mafia 1. Players who are capable of changing meta and care 2. Players who only play for one alignment and either refuse or can't change meta LS belongs in group 2, he's already done several of his town tells at this point. Digging up old,meta cases on him to show how people know him. He's sort of jokey, and he's willing to get into,confrontations to a degree. As scum he's lazy, he is serious and skittish. He's town to me at this juncture. So Damdred, which one is it? Is LS scum cause you're town, or is LS town and you're scum? Or are you both town or scum? Also can you answer this? On June 17 2015 08:12 NydusHerMain wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2015 08:11 LightningStrike wrote:On June 17 2015 08:09 ritoky wrote:current state of the thread: ![[image loading]](http://www.gifbin.com/bin/012010/1264505362_cat-fight.gif) more updates to come. choppa 4 on the scene. Ugh can you tell me what your reads are atm based on stuff happening? Give it a day or two... Damdred can you substantiate your reads a bit please? Especially on LS and that other guy? Last game you were one of the first ones to give content and you gave pretty good explanations on each of them... You posted afterwards but never responded to this.
NydusHerMain - Town?
Fidei86
+ Show Spoiler +On June 17 2015 08:13 Fidei86 wrote:
Evening guys. In case you haven't played with me before, this is my second game (first was Holy Guardians). Heading to bed now, but it looks like there'll be a ton of posts ready for me when I wake up ... Why post this if 40 mins later you're going to post again? On June 17 2015 08:57 Fidei86 wrote:
Everyone I played with in HG seems to be carrying on as they left off, except Onegu isn't shit-posting as much, though that's probably because the end of the last game was pretty hype and probably got him jacked to play again. Others will know GB better than I do, but in the HG ins thread he was poking everyone to make reads super early, so that probably means it's his natural play style. He gets a slight town read. I better see poking this game
Breshke - His posting currently comes off as town to me atm
Mig - waiting
GlowingBear - Who knows, acts like a child when things don't go his way in town/scum games.
LightningStrike - Acting like he cares? I don't know yet, but his posting looks familiar with his last game where he was scum (not caring about what he writes)
wherebugsgo - Ego town butthole
VayneAuthority - Not much
boxerfred - First post is what?
Going to leave now, in-laws are in town.
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Wife is taking forever, got a few minutes to respond.
@damdred what?
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/487093-mafia-in-the-himalayas?page=12#231
Is where he asked you, your follow up was:
On June 17 2015 08:21 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2015 08:15 KelsierSC wrote:On June 17 2015 08:09 LightningStrike wrote:On June 17 2015 08:08 NydusHerMain wrote:
I don't think LS is being that towny o.O. Am I crazy? I'm not saying he's not town but how do people have a "probs town" or "hard town" read on him already. Because they know my meta? Check the database lpus Witchcraft III for my meta if you want any seriously can you shut the fuck up already with this shit you have just taken a shit in your hand and thrown whatever came out into the thread. I don't think your town and bringing up all this meta crap so early on is fucking irritating Even if I'm right and your town keep the bm out of thread. Its not needed even if you are annoyed at this point. I'll substantiate later, but I don't believe nhm or ls are capable of posting such as these as scum. Both are somewhat meta based reads. Kel is just a maybe town. I know I'm town obviously I also think gb is a decent shot as town but don't tell him I said that
Do you really think this is worth of any value? You wrote about three people when there are quite a few other posters.
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On June 17 2015 09:31 KelsierSC wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2015 09:29 ShoCkeyy wrote:Wife is taking forever, got a few minutes to respond. @damdred what? http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/487093-mafia-in-the-himalayas?page=12#231Is where he asked you, your follow up was: On June 17 2015 08:21 Damdred wrote:On June 17 2015 08:15 KelsierSC wrote:On June 17 2015 08:09 LightningStrike wrote:On June 17 2015 08:08 NydusHerMain wrote:
I don't think LS is being that towny o.O. Am I crazy? I'm not saying he's not town but how do people have a "probs town" or "hard town" read on him already. Because they know my meta? Check the database lpus Witchcraft III for my meta if you want any seriously can you shut the fuck up already with this shit you have just taken a shit in your hand and thrown whatever came out into the thread. I don't think your town and bringing up all this meta crap so early on is fucking irritating Even if I'm right and your town keep the bm out of thread. Its not needed even if you are annoyed at this point. I'll substantiate later, but I don't believe nhm or ls are capable of posting such as these as scum. Both are somewhat meta based reads. Kel is just a maybe town. I know I'm town obviously I also think gb is a decent shot as town but don't tell him I said that Do you really think this is worth of any value? You wrote about three people when there are quite a few other posters. what about his most recent post?
It was a lot better than that current one (which I was going to write about, but since you asked, just might as well respond to you too), but it still lacks other players that have been involved since the start. Also, he claims it's all meta reads, which who knows. Either way, I was just questioning him, I'm not saying his alignment yet since I just don't know atm.
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On June 17 2015 09:33 rsoultin wrote:
^ this being the only reason for your scumread btw is bad
-beats gb with a wet noodle. maybe even two wet noodles-
-yawns at shockey-
-yawns at you-
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On June 17 2015 09:38 KelsierSC wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2015 09:34 ShoCkeyy wrote:On June 17 2015 09:31 KelsierSC wrote:On June 17 2015 09:29 ShoCkeyy wrote:Wife is taking forever, got a few minutes to respond. @damdred what? http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/487093-mafia-in-the-himalayas?page=12#231Is where he asked you, your follow up was: On June 17 2015 08:21 Damdred wrote:On June 17 2015 08:15 KelsierSC wrote:On June 17 2015 08:09 LightningStrike wrote:On June 17 2015 08:08 NydusHerMain wrote:
I don't think LS is being that towny o.O. Am I crazy? I'm not saying he's not town but how do people have a "probs town" or "hard town" read on him already. Because they know my meta? Check the database lpus Witchcraft III for my meta if you want any seriously can you shut the fuck up already with this shit you have just taken a shit in your hand and thrown whatever came out into the thread. I don't think your town and bringing up all this meta crap so early on is fucking irritating Even if I'm right and your town keep the bm out of thread. Its not needed even if you are annoyed at this point. I'll substantiate later, but I don't believe nhm or ls are capable of posting such as these as scum. Both are somewhat meta based reads. Kel is just a maybe town. I know I'm town obviously I also think gb is a decent shot as town but don't tell him I said that Do you really think this is worth of any value? You wrote about three people when there are quite a few other posters. what about his most recent post? It was a lot better than that current one (which I was going to write about, but since you asked, just might as well respond to you too), but it still lacks other players that have been involved since the start. Also, he claims it's all meta reads, which who knows. Either way, I was just questioning him, I'm not saying his alignment yet since I just don't know atm. ok here's my problem with this. If you are town you can't just make up reads , despite what GB says. if that is all damdred has then he has posted it. I actually think his recent posts and his explanation about LS was pretty good. I'm looking at your list post now Show nested quote +On June 17 2015 09:10 ShoCkeyy wrote:rsoultin - idk wtf they're posting atm KelsierSC - reminds me of bugs, a butthole, but a town butthole Bill Murray - idk ritoky - Channel 4 Choppa ShoCkeyy - Town Onegu - Misclaim to VT? We'll see, I'll just give him the benefit of the doubt. Holyflare - Opening/Only post claims town lol. Damdred + Show Spoiler +On June 17 2015 07:09 Damdred wrote:
So ok claiming town which means ls is scum On June 17 2015 08:29 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2015 08:25 KelsierSC wrote:On June 17 2015 08:21 Damdred wrote:On June 17 2015 08:15 KelsierSC wrote:On June 17 2015 08:09 LightningStrike wrote:On June 17 2015 08:08 NydusHerMain wrote:
I don't think LS is being that towny o.O. Am I crazy? I'm not saying he's not town but how do people have a "probs town" or "hard town" read on him already. Because they know my meta? Check the database lpus Witchcraft III for my meta if you want any seriously can you shut the fuck up already with this shit you have just taken a shit in your hand and thrown whatever came out into the thread. I don't think your town and bringing up all this meta crap so early on is fucking irritating Even if I'm right and your town keep the bm out of thread. Its not needed even if you are annoyed at this point. I'll substantiate later, but I don't believe nhm or ls are capable of posting such as these as scum. Both are somewhat meta based reads. Kel is just a maybe town. I know I'm town obviously I also think gb is a decent shot as town but don't tell him I said that you can explain ls right now actually...what has he posted that makes him town? There's a lot of shit but nothing of real value. There are two types of people that play mafia 1. Players who are capable of changing meta and care 2. Players who only play for one alignment and either refuse or can't change meta LS belongs in group 2, he's already done several of his town tells at this point. Digging up old,meta cases on him to show how people know him. He's sort of jokey, and he's willing to get into,confrontations to a degree. As scum he's lazy, he is serious and skittish. He's town to me at this juncture. So Damdred, which one is it? Is LS scum cause you're town, or is LS town and you're scum? Or are you both town or scum? Also can you answer this? On June 17 2015 08:12 NydusHerMain wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2015 08:11 LightningStrike wrote:On June 17 2015 08:09 ritoky wrote:current state of the thread: more updates to come. choppa 4 on the scene. Ugh can you tell me what your reads are atm based on stuff happening? Give it a day or two... Damdred can you substantiate your reads a bit please? Especially on LS and that other guy? Last game you were one of the first ones to give content and you gave pretty good explanations on each of them... You posted afterwards but never responded to this. NydusHerMain - Town? Fidei86 + Show Spoiler +On June 17 2015 08:13 Fidei86 wrote:
Evening guys. In case you haven't played with me before, this is my second game (first was Holy Guardians). Heading to bed now, but it looks like there'll be a ton of posts ready for me when I wake up ... Why post this if 40 mins later you're going to post again? On June 17 2015 08:57 Fidei86 wrote:
Everyone I played with in HG seems to be carrying on as they left off, except Onegu isn't shit-posting as much, though that's probably because the end of the last game was pretty hype and probably got him jacked to play again. Others will know GB better than I do, but in the HG ins thread he was poking everyone to make reads super early, so that probably means it's his natural play style. He gets a slight town read. I better see poking this game Breshke - His posting currently comes off as town to me atm Mig - waiting GlowingBear - Who knows, acts like a child when things don't go his way in town/scum games. LightningStrike - Acting like he cares? I don't know yet, but his posting looks familiar with his last game where he was scum (not caring about what he writes) wherebugsgo - Ego town butthole VayneAuthority - Not much boxerfred - First post is what? Going to leave now, in-laws are in town. you haven't actually given a great deal on anyone. you have given most people as null and some people as town. which is what damdred has done. so why are you going so crazy on him?
I wasn't going crazy? Also, I just wanted to give my early reads on everyone and ask a few questions to better my reads. I'm not making up reads, these are just notes I've made while reading the responses of all the players.
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On June 17 2015 09:45 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2015 09:44 ShoCkeyy wrote:On June 17 2015 09:38 KelsierSC wrote:On June 17 2015 09:34 ShoCkeyy wrote:On June 17 2015 09:31 KelsierSC wrote:On June 17 2015 09:29 ShoCkeyy wrote:Wife is taking forever, got a few minutes to respond. @damdred what? http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/487093-mafia-in-the-himalayas?page=12#231Is where he asked you, your follow up was: On June 17 2015 08:21 Damdred wrote:On June 17 2015 08:15 KelsierSC wrote:On June 17 2015 08:09 LightningStrike wrote:On June 17 2015 08:08 NydusHerMain wrote:
I don't think LS is being that towny o.O. Am I crazy? I'm not saying he's not town but how do people have a "probs town" or "hard town" read on him already. Because they know my meta? Check the database lpus Witchcraft III for my meta if you want any seriously can you shut the fuck up already with this shit you have just taken a shit in your hand and thrown whatever came out into the thread. I don't think your town and bringing up all this meta crap so early on is fucking irritating Even if I'm right and your town keep the bm out of thread. Its not needed even if you are annoyed at this point. I'll substantiate later, but I don't believe nhm or ls are capable of posting such as these as scum. Both are somewhat meta based reads. Kel is just a maybe town. I know I'm town obviously I also think gb is a decent shot as town but don't tell him I said that Do you really think this is worth of any value? You wrote about three people when there are quite a few other posters. what about his most recent post? It was a lot better than that current one (which I was going to write about, but since you asked, just might as well respond to you too), but it still lacks other players that have been involved since the start. Also, he claims it's all meta reads, which who knows. Either way, I was just questioning him, I'm not saying his alignment yet since I just don't know atm. ok here's my problem with this. If you are town you can't just make up reads , despite what GB says. if that is all damdred has then he has posted it. I actually think his recent posts and his explanation about LS was pretty good. I'm looking at your list post now On June 17 2015 09:10 ShoCkeyy wrote:rsoultin - idk wtf they're posting atm KelsierSC - reminds me of bugs, a butthole, but a town butthole Bill Murray - idk ritoky - Channel 4 Choppa ShoCkeyy - Town Onegu - Misclaim to VT? We'll see, I'll just give him the benefit of the doubt. Holyflare - Opening/Only post claims town lol. Damdred + Show Spoiler +On June 17 2015 07:09 Damdred wrote:
So ok claiming town which means ls is scum On June 17 2015 08:29 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2015 08:25 KelsierSC wrote:On June 17 2015 08:21 Damdred wrote:On June 17 2015 08:15 KelsierSC wrote:On June 17 2015 08:09 LightningStrike wrote:On June 17 2015 08:08 NydusHerMain wrote:
I don't think LS is being that towny o.O. Am I crazy? I'm not saying he's not town but how do people have a "probs town" or "hard town" read on him already. Because they know my meta? Check the database lpus Witchcraft III for my meta if you want any seriously can you shut the fuck up already with this shit you have just taken a shit in your hand and thrown whatever came out into the thread. I don't think your town and bringing up all this meta crap so early on is fucking irritating Even if I'm right and your town keep the bm out of thread. Its not needed even if you are annoyed at this point. I'll substantiate later, but I don't believe nhm or ls are capable of posting such as these as scum. Both are somewhat meta based reads. Kel is just a maybe town. I know I'm town obviously I also think gb is a decent shot as town but don't tell him I said that you can explain ls right now actually...what has he posted that makes him town? There's a lot of shit but nothing of real value. There are two types of people that play mafia 1. Players who are capable of changing meta and care 2. Players who only play for one alignment and either refuse or can't change meta LS belongs in group 2, he's already done several of his town tells at this point. Digging up old,meta cases on him to show how people know him. He's sort of jokey, and he's willing to get into,confrontations to a degree. As scum he's lazy, he is serious and skittish. He's town to me at this juncture. So Damdred, which one is it? Is LS scum cause you're town, or is LS town and you're scum? Or are you both town or scum? Also can you answer this? On June 17 2015 08:12 NydusHerMain wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2015 08:11 LightningStrike wrote:On June 17 2015 08:09 ritoky wrote:current state of the thread: more updates to come. choppa 4 on the scene. Ugh can you tell me what your reads are atm based on stuff happening? Give it a day or two... Damdred can you substantiate your reads a bit please? Especially on LS and that other guy? Last game you were one of the first ones to give content and you gave pretty good explanations on each of them... You posted afterwards but never responded to this. NydusHerMain - Town? Fidei86 + Show Spoiler +On June 17 2015 08:13 Fidei86 wrote:
Evening guys. In case you haven't played with me before, this is my second game (first was Holy Guardians). Heading to bed now, but it looks like there'll be a ton of posts ready for me when I wake up ... Why post this if 40 mins later you're going to post again? On June 17 2015 08:57 Fidei86 wrote:
Everyone I played with in HG seems to be carrying on as they left off, except Onegu isn't shit-posting as much, though that's probably because the end of the last game was pretty hype and probably got him jacked to play again. Others will know GB better than I do, but in the HG ins thread he was poking everyone to make reads super early, so that probably means it's his natural play style. He gets a slight town read. I better see poking this game Breshke - His posting currently comes off as town to me atm Mig - waiting GlowingBear - Who knows, acts like a child when things don't go his way in town/scum games. LightningStrike - Acting like he cares? I don't know yet, but his posting looks familiar with his last game where he was scum (not caring about what he writes) wherebugsgo - Ego town butthole VayneAuthority - Not much boxerfred - First post is what? Going to leave now, in-laws are in town. you haven't actually given a great deal on anyone. you have given most people as null and some people as town. which is what damdred has done. so why are you going so crazy on him? I wasn't going crazy? Also, I just wanted to give my early reads on everyone and ask a few questions to better my reads. I'm not making up reads, these are just notes I've made while reading the responses of all the players. hey sweetie pie if you don't understand me shouldn't you be trying to? ^^ keep your pretty notes to yourself if they're that blah ^^
I can post my notes with or without your consent, thanks
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@KSC
Currently hard to give scum reads with what's going on, it's still the beginning of day 1!
LS is my only suspicion atm.
It felt agro cause I was asking him a serious question, maybe he slips if he was mafia and says something?
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Alright going to try and get this going here. I don't get why people care so much about activity? It's been known since this forum even started that people lurk and will always lurk. I can't be posting all day and night as some others here cause I own four businesses + consult major businesses. I use mafia as a past time and can post when I have free time. If you like my activity great, if you don't sucks for you. At least I try and help the town win rather than post non-sense and spam up the thread.
@Breshke - It's not that I didn't care about my read, is that every one and their mothers is already giving their read on LS. Why do I need to ask a question that was already answer?
@KSC - I don't get why you think I was going after damdred? It was just an early post to get more info on him and in return he got info out of me. I never even claimed I think he's mafia. If anything, his reads seem town motivated.
The list post I made was just have my notes out early. Today alone is my wife's birthday and I have planned to spend it with her - I even posted before game started I will be active mornings and nights (nights meaning before bed time).
@LS - I have, but I haven't been able to deep dive into them. Currently, I'm basing your posting style to your previous game we played together.
I'll be back at night and post follow up responses. I will also try to respond from my phone if possible.
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On June 17 2015 23:00 KelsierSC wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2015 22:51 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Alright going to try and get this going here. I don't get why people care so much about activity? It's been known since this forum even started that people lurk and will always lurk. I can't be posting all day and night as some others here cause I own four businesses + consult major businesses. I use mafia as a past time and can post when I have free time. If you like my activity great, if you don't sucks for you. At least I try and help the town win rather than post non-sense and spam up the thread.
@Breshke - It's not that I didn't care about my read, is that every one and their mothers is already giving their read on LS. Why do I need to ask a question that was already answer?
@KSC - I don't get why you think I was going after damdred? It was just an early post to get more info on him and in return he got info out of me. I never even claimed I think he's mafia. If anything, his reads seem town motivated.
The list post I made was just have my notes out early. Today alone is my wife's birthday and I have planned to spend it with her - I even posted before game started I will be active mornings and nights (nights meaning before bed time).
@LS - I have, but I haven't been able to deep dive into them. Currently, I'm basing your posting style to your previous game we played together.
I'll be back at night and post follow up responses. I will also try to respond from my phone if possible. thanks for your life story and the reasons you play mafia. I'm glad you avoided non-sense and spamming the thread. Congratulations on your wife's birthday.
You call that spam, but people say "I don't like shockeyy's activity". Well that's why my activity sucks in every game I play. Then you call that spam? But fail to look at people like rsoul, who already have 7+ pages of filter and most of it is crap. To me that seems like they're trying to hide their mistakes with constant posting. Just read the fight between her and wbg. She completely ignores him until the lynch train happened. It just seems odd.
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Nah, people are talking about having lurkers post more and LS even said he wish I would post more. Either way, we still are on day 1, there still a lot of time to build a case and gather better reads. I'm not to worried about coming off as scum atm, cause when I lay the hammer, people will see how serious I am about winning for town.
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Currently reading, on page 50, but wanted to post this before I lose my train of thought:
Rsoul - People talk about me making up excuses but check her filter she has quite a few
+ Show Spoiler +On June 17 2015 21:52 rsoultin wrote:
Hate phone posting @.@ gah On June 18 2015 02:40 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2015 02:34 LightningStrike wrote:On June 18 2015 02:31 rsoultin wrote:On June 18 2015 02:28 LightningStrike wrote:On June 18 2015 02:24 rsoultin wrote:On June 18 2015 02:22 LightningStrike wrote:On June 18 2015 02:19 rsoultin wrote:
Hf
Why is your read on me so wishy washy?
The tone of your posts flips from townreading to scumreading pretty much every other post. You're not pressuring a soul but the afk.
bugs we're not lynching me. Find a better target Thoughts on Shockeyy so far? Later. If you're impatient read my filter You think scum from what I read in your filter O_o Didn't like his list post, agree with damdy that town generally does the fuck off type posting though, so scumlean but not the most interesting person in the thread to me presently Well I posted a quote that was listish post which was his first reads of the game what you think of it compared his list post this game? Dude i'm on my phone. You know i'm going to want to follow up in the thrwas that was posted in. This has to wait until I get home tonight On June 18 2015 02:51 rsoultin wrote:
Meh I give up lol I suck at phone posting
That should have said admitted to skimming the thread. I'll post tonight when I don't have.to.fight the phone
Also can't.keep up.with the thread
At nhm...don't give a damn go away On June 18 2015 03:50 rsoultin wrote:
lol that's all well and good
phone
posting
wait
sides XP I'm not getring lynched this game
2-3 of the ppl on me don't even want to lynch me today, so you can take.your threats somewhere else If I were posting from my phone, I wouldn't use it as an excuse to ignore things. If you hate it so much, then stop trying to do anything on your phone and using it as an excuse to spam up the thread and create yourself a larger filter to go through. On June 18 2015 01:06 wherebugsgo wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2015 13:40 NydusHerMain wrote:On June 17 2015 13:37 rsoultin wrote:On June 17 2015 13:34 Holyflare wrote:On June 17 2015 13:27 rsoultin wrote:On June 17 2015 13:26 Holyflare wrote:
yes but the fact the game started without him being replaced means he had to have confirmed his pm in like the last 30 mins before the game started and then just did nothing
... lol that's a good point, i didn't think about the confirmation timing and you say i did nothing with my vote -.- 3 Bill Murray + Show Spoiler +4 ritoky - probably not just uneasy buddy wordz 5 ShoCkeyy - maybe not, seems kind of new but not read the database of 5 games or w/e 6 Onegu 10 Fidei86 12 Mig + Show Spoiler +13 GlowingBear - hahahahaha not read anything he wrote <3 14 LightningStrike - aprehensive, probably not 16 VayneAuthority 17 boxerfred super duper awesome lazy would lynch list of lazyness, GO! hey >> not a mind reader lol nh take fidei off otherwise...ignoring your spoilered ones presently...the unspoilered ones are fine with me otherwise so, putting this out here on the chance that oneg is being especially lazy as town...if you give me nothing to read you by i'll assume this is the scum game you chose to break meta with <3 You made a point in saying that the majority of your reads are based on meta. If Onegu, according to your meta read, is town when he's inactive (because he supposedly doesn't like playing as town), why would this be the game where you break your meta read on him now when you're holding onto your metareads on other people? nice catch bro GB I'm disappointed. You sounded like you wanted to come out and play but you didn't, and now you're doing dumb shit like voting random lurkers. Are you scum again? Wanted to bring this up again.
GB - This vote is extremely weird (even tho it's not really a vote, why even mention it?)
+ Show Spoiler +On June 18 2015 00:05 GlowingBear wrote:
##Vote: VayneAuthority
On June 18 2015 04:54 GlowingBear wrote:
Alright bugs, could we lynch VA? On June 18 2015 05:15 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2015 05:01 wherebugsgo wrote:On June 18 2015 04:57 GlowingBear wrote:On June 18 2015 04:54 wherebugsgo wrote:
and my read on him is not a "too dumb to be scum" thing which falls into the same category as what I described. It is dumb, but you need to ignore the fact that it is a dumb play. Dumb plays are normally not alignment indicative. It's the fact that the play attracts attention that is important. A claim day 1 attracts too much attention to ever be made by scum. Scum counter claim and make claims in situations where they absolutely have to in order to win. When they don't they've usually made a huge mistake and they often get punished really hard for it. If LS were scum here he'd know that a fake claim on day 1 would cause him to take a lot of attention and he'd never do that because his style is to slide by without actually doing anything or taking any attention.
To call him scum for a play that is quite literally antithetical to his playstyle is quite possibly dumber than the play he did himself. What if I say that claiming a blue role with little pressure is his scum meta? If you're saying that you are truly terrible as town. He didn't do that last game and I didn't see him do that in the games that I read. If he has done it as scum before then it's probably complete coincidence, because the claim itself is not alignment indicative. I don't know how many different ways I can say this but surface-level things are not indicators of anything. Stop using them in shitty ways to confirm your own biases. Thanks, I was looking for this answer. VA, I want to lynch you by a PoE tbh. I'm trying to see what people think of you. Then GB completely backs off.
NHM - Great post by him, definitely can see him coming from a town perspective, other than his read on me which severely lacks a case against me, yet votes for me because others are.
+ Show Spoiler +On June 18 2015 02:06 NydusHerMain wrote: Ye Grande Ole Town CircleLightningStrike - I don't personally see you as particularly towny but I'm sure you've been spewed by now. People are giving you town reads like candy and so many people are saying that your scum meta is so weak that I'll trust them. At least one of the people reading you town for the meta has to be town. HolyFlare - For the reasons I mentioned before, I think that his early play was so calm and I guess kinda suicidal that I don't think he's scum for it. I think that what he did is something that people could see as scum really easily and being an experienced player, I don't think that he would do that as scum. He wasn't really building cases, OMGUSing, etc. and I feel like under pressure he would've tried to do more of that if he was scum. Looks like bored town to me slowly turning into a scum hunting butterfly. He's also paying attention to time stamps and stuff which I like. Breshke - Kind of feels like he's coming from a towny perspective? I liked his earlier posting with his soft/hard defense of bugs, not so much his last bit. Feels like he's paying attention to detail and trying to construct a decent town circle even though I don't agree with some of them I like his reasoning for it. Only thing to mention here is that I think he might be tip toeing around giving a read on RS. Would be interesting to see RS's flip and see what kind of interaction we can gather from them. Either way, he's not my lynch for today. Vayne - I wish he gave a good reason for calling Damdred scum but I'm townreading him for not giving a read on Damdred at all. He gave like 3 scum reads and 2 of them were practically AFK. I asked him for his reasoning for including Damdred scum because not only did he stick out in that list, I had him as scum as well. He said he didn't really have a reason and that most people were just AFK reads. I think that as scum, your best way to blend in with town is to give substantiation behind your reads and to have people you call super town or super mafia, etc. The way he's posting kind of feels like to me that he is genuinely trying to make a town circle in his head (though his posts reeks of him only skimming and not paying attention to detail). Doesn't feel like a mafia trying to fabricate reads. KelsierSC - Straight up his interaction with me when we were talking about Onegu was very towny imo. I think that most people would've called my push on Onegu as weak and bad, even if Onegu ends up being scum, because even I thought that my reason for thinking that Onegu was scummy was kind of weak and I tried to get us back on track of finding actual reasons for calling people scum. Kelsier went a bit deeper and found what I think was a pretty good reason as to why Onegu could've done what he did as scum, way better than mine but off of what I posted. Also, his response here was really sick and sounded town to me. (I HAVE A FEELING I'M GOING TO HAVE TO EXPLAIN THIS READ AGAIN BECAUSE GRAMMAR)GlowingBear - I had a bad feeling about him before but honestly, I think that if he was scum, he'd stick to his probably town read on me and wouldn't flip on it so easily after like two posts. It's going to stay in the back of my mind because I don't think the flip to me being neutral felt natural but meh it's a small thing. Otherwise, he's been really putting himself out there in terms of what all of his reads are and he's at least been interacting with me and trying to see how I think about some of him reads. For example, I asked him about his read on Onegu as scum and he changed that and then he proceeded to ask me why I didn't comment about his other scum read which, to be honest, was also a weak reason in the same vein as his scum read on Onegu. Seems like he's a little hesitant to push on anyone but I'll give him a town read for today. Those are my towns at the moment. I have a couple of leaning town but I can't really explain them really well. Most of it is just tone. Similarly, a lot of my scum are lurkers and I'm willing to lynch almost anyone with less than 1 page of filter (except Vayne) but the main people I want to look at that have posted so far are Damdred and Shockey. Damdred - I don't think that Damdred is bringing on the fire that he I expected him bring. I think that as town, he's more likely to be annoyed that people are calling him scum and would ask people specifically as people call him scummy why they think so. ESPECIALLY when most people aren't explaining why they think he's mafia. Wouldn't that infuriate him if he was town? I think he's trying to avoid it because he isn't really under much heat and he can just avoid getting voted on by not really addressing it since most people will probably forget they have him as scum. Shockey - I kind of liked that he gave a lot of reads at first but the way he's talking about his wife's birthday, etc. It just feels kind of fake to me and it feels like he's trying to make an excuse as to why he's posting so scummy (to people who thought his post was scummy). Gives me a very weird vibe. Oh fuck I forgot. Boxerfred gives me bad vibes too but I'll say it in another post. This WoT is probably becoming unreadable. ##Vote: Shockey On June 18 2015 02:08 NydusHerMain wrote:
Shockey is also pretty defensive (I wouldn't say super defensive) and doesn't really seem to be scum hunting. It's hard to scum hunt D1 opening though. It makes things much easier once there is a lot of posts (there was more than 30 since I last posted).
LS - Obvious scum.
+ Show Spoiler +On June 18 2015 02:22 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2015 02:19 rsoultin wrote:
Hf
Why is your read on me so wishy washy?
The tone of your posts flips from townreading to scumreading pretty much every other post. You're not pressuring a soul but the afk.
bugs we're not lynching me. Find a better target Thoughts on Shockeyy so far? Completely starts trying to take away any suspicions on himself and tries to attack the inactive player (me) atm. On June 18 2015 07:16 LightningStrike wrote:
Damdred can you help defend me from meanie KSC and HF please? Also HF this game is going full GoT I don't want it go full GoT T_T Stop asking for other players help to defend you. You should be defending yourself, you have no case against me. You just thought it would be the easiest because I've barely posted. On June 18 2015 07:22 LightningStrike wrote:
Also everyone go after Shockeyy please he should flip scum I also willing to switch Boxer if a Shockeyy lynch not going to happen. Continue to attack me while I'm not even around? GJ. This post shows why LS is scum - he's willing to throw his "case" against me away to jump on a train that won't allow him to be lynched.
Will be posting a follow up after I'm completely updated on the thread. My LS read made me go into his filter which might have a few quotes past the current page I'm on, but those posts about me are just disgusting.
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What you mean this?
On June 18 2015 03:54 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2015 03:54 KelsierSC wrote:
I'm going to leave this for now but I think i've made it quite clear that LS is scum and you should be voting for him if you're town.
I not I blue :O
On day 1? We haven't even had a night post and didn't Onegu claim VT too? So we then have two VT's? Which one is it?
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On June 18 2015 11:46 ShoCkeyy wrote:Currently reading, on page 50, but wanted to post this before I lose my train of thought: Rsoul - People talk about me making up excuses but check her filter she has quite a few + Show Spoiler +On June 17 2015 21:52 rsoultin wrote:
Hate phone posting @.@ gah On June 18 2015 02:40 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2015 02:34 LightningStrike wrote:On June 18 2015 02:31 rsoultin wrote:On June 18 2015 02:28 LightningStrike wrote:On June 18 2015 02:24 rsoultin wrote:On June 18 2015 02:22 LightningStrike wrote:On June 18 2015 02:19 rsoultin wrote:
Hf
Why is your read on me so wishy washy?
The tone of your posts flips from townreading to scumreading pretty much every other post. You're not pressuring a soul but the afk.
bugs we're not lynching me. Find a better target Thoughts on Shockeyy so far? Later. If you're impatient read my filter You think scum from what I read in your filter O_o Didn't like his list post, agree with damdy that town generally does the fuck off type posting though, so scumlean but not the most interesting person in the thread to me presently Well I posted a quote that was listish post which was his first reads of the game what you think of it compared his list post this game? Dude i'm on my phone. You know i'm going to want to follow up in the thrwas that was posted in. This has to wait until I get home tonight On June 18 2015 02:51 rsoultin wrote:
Meh I give up lol I suck at phone posting
That should have said admitted to skimming the thread. I'll post tonight when I don't have.to.fight the phone
Also can't.keep up.with the thread
At nhm...don't give a damn go away On June 18 2015 03:50 rsoultin wrote:
lol that's all well and good
phone
posting
wait
sides XP I'm not getring lynched this game
2-3 of the ppl on me don't even want to lynch me today, so you can take.your threats somewhere else If I were posting from my phone, I wouldn't use it as an excuse to ignore things. If you hate it so much, then stop trying to do anything on your phone and using it as an excuse to spam up the thread and create yourself a larger filter to go through. On June 18 2015 01:06 wherebugsgo wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2015 13:40 NydusHerMain wrote:On June 17 2015 13:37 rsoultin wrote:On June 17 2015 13:34 Holyflare wrote:On June 17 2015 13:27 rsoultin wrote:On June 17 2015 13:26 Holyflare wrote:
yes but the fact the game started without him being replaced means he had to have confirmed his pm in like the last 30 mins before the game started and then just did nothing
... lol that's a good point, i didn't think about the confirmation timing and you say i did nothing with my vote -.- 3 Bill Murray + Show Spoiler +4 ritoky - probably not just uneasy buddy wordz 5 ShoCkeyy - maybe not, seems kind of new but not read the database of 5 games or w/e 6 Onegu 10 Fidei86 12 Mig + Show Spoiler +13 GlowingBear - hahahahaha not read anything he wrote <3 14 LightningStrike - aprehensive, probably not 16 VayneAuthority 17 boxerfred super duper awesome lazy would lynch list of lazyness, GO! hey >> not a mind reader lol nh take fidei off otherwise...ignoring your spoilered ones presently...the unspoilered ones are fine with me otherwise so, putting this out here on the chance that oneg is being especially lazy as town...if you give me nothing to read you by i'll assume this is the scum game you chose to break meta with <3 You made a point in saying that the majority of your reads are based on meta. If Onegu, according to your meta read, is town when he's inactive (because he supposedly doesn't like playing as town), why would this be the game where you break your meta read on him now when you're holding onto your metareads on other people? nice catch bro GB I'm disappointed. You sounded like you wanted to come out and play but you didn't, and now you're doing dumb shit like voting random lurkers. Are you scum again? Wanted to bring this up again. GB - This vote is extremely weird (even tho it's not really a vote, why even mention it?) + Show Spoiler +On June 18 2015 00:05 GlowingBear wrote:
##Vote: VayneAuthority
On June 18 2015 04:54 GlowingBear wrote:
Alright bugs, could we lynch VA? On June 18 2015 05:15 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2015 05:01 wherebugsgo wrote:On June 18 2015 04:57 GlowingBear wrote:On June 18 2015 04:54 wherebugsgo wrote:
and my read on him is not a "too dumb to be scum" thing which falls into the same category as what I described. It is dumb, but you need to ignore the fact that it is a dumb play. Dumb plays are normally not alignment indicative. It's the fact that the play attracts attention that is important. A claim day 1 attracts too much attention to ever be made by scum. Scum counter claim and make claims in situations where they absolutely have to in order to win. When they don't they've usually made a huge mistake and they often get punished really hard for it. If LS were scum here he'd know that a fake claim on day 1 would cause him to take a lot of attention and he'd never do that because his style is to slide by without actually doing anything or taking any attention.
To call him scum for a play that is quite literally antithetical to his playstyle is quite possibly dumber than the play he did himself. What if I say that claiming a blue role with little pressure is his scum meta? If you're saying that you are truly terrible as town. He didn't do that last game and I didn't see him do that in the games that I read. If he has done it as scum before then it's probably complete coincidence, because the claim itself is not alignment indicative. I don't know how many different ways I can say this but surface-level things are not indicators of anything. Stop using them in shitty ways to confirm your own biases. Thanks, I was looking for this answer. VA, I want to lynch you by a PoE tbh. I'm trying to see what people think of you. Then GB completely backs off. NHM - Great post by him, definitely can see him coming from a town perspective, other than his read on me which severely lacks a case against me, yet votes for me because others are. + Show Spoiler +On June 18 2015 02:06 NydusHerMain wrote: Ye Grande Ole Town CircleLightningStrike - I don't personally see you as particularly towny but I'm sure you've been spewed by now. People are giving you town reads like candy and so many people are saying that your scum meta is so weak that I'll trust them. At least one of the people reading you town for the meta has to be town. HolyFlare - For the reasons I mentioned before, I think that his early play was so calm and I guess kinda suicidal that I don't think he's scum for it. I think that what he did is something that people could see as scum really easily and being an experienced player, I don't think that he would do that as scum. He wasn't really building cases, OMGUSing, etc. and I feel like under pressure he would've tried to do more of that if he was scum. Looks like bored town to me slowly turning into a scum hunting butterfly. He's also paying attention to time stamps and stuff which I like. Breshke - Kind of feels like he's coming from a towny perspective? I liked his earlier posting with his soft/hard defense of bugs, not so much his last bit. Feels like he's paying attention to detail and trying to construct a decent town circle even though I don't agree with some of them I like his reasoning for it. Only thing to mention here is that I think he might be tip toeing around giving a read on RS. Would be interesting to see RS's flip and see what kind of interaction we can gather from them. Either way, he's not my lynch for today. Vayne - I wish he gave a good reason for calling Damdred scum but I'm townreading him for not giving a read on Damdred at all. He gave like 3 scum reads and 2 of them were practically AFK. I asked him for his reasoning for including Damdred scum because not only did he stick out in that list, I had him as scum as well. He said he didn't really have a reason and that most people were just AFK reads. I think that as scum, your best way to blend in with town is to give substantiation behind your reads and to have people you call super town or super mafia, etc. The way he's posting kind of feels like to me that he is genuinely trying to make a town circle in his head (though his posts reeks of him only skimming and not paying attention to detail). Doesn't feel like a mafia trying to fabricate reads. KelsierSC - Straight up his interaction with me when we were talking about Onegu was very towny imo. I think that most people would've called my push on Onegu as weak and bad, even if Onegu ends up being scum, because even I thought that my reason for thinking that Onegu was scummy was kind of weak and I tried to get us back on track of finding actual reasons for calling people scum. Kelsier went a bit deeper and found what I think was a pretty good reason as to why Onegu could've done what he did as scum, way better than mine but off of what I posted. Also, his response here was really sick and sounded town to me. (I HAVE A FEELING I'M GOING TO HAVE TO EXPLAIN THIS READ AGAIN BECAUSE GRAMMAR)GlowingBear - I had a bad feeling about him before but honestly, I think that if he was scum, he'd stick to his probably town read on me and wouldn't flip on it so easily after like two posts. It's going to stay in the back of my mind because I don't think the flip to me being neutral felt natural but meh it's a small thing. Otherwise, he's been really putting himself out there in terms of what all of his reads are and he's at least been interacting with me and trying to see how I think about some of him reads. For example, I asked him about his read on Onegu as scum and he changed that and then he proceeded to ask me why I didn't comment about his other scum read which, to be honest, was also a weak reason in the same vein as his scum read on Onegu. Seems like he's a little hesitant to push on anyone but I'll give him a town read for today. Those are my towns at the moment. I have a couple of leaning town but I can't really explain them really well. Most of it is just tone. Similarly, a lot of my scum are lurkers and I'm willing to lynch almost anyone with less than 1 page of filter (except Vayne) but the main people I want to look at that have posted so far are Damdred and Shockey. Damdred - I don't think that Damdred is bringing on the fire that he I expected him bring. I think that as town, he's more likely to be annoyed that people are calling him scum and would ask people specifically as people call him scummy why they think so. ESPECIALLY when most people aren't explaining why they think he's mafia. Wouldn't that infuriate him if he was town? I think he's trying to avoid it because he isn't really under much heat and he can just avoid getting voted on by not really addressing it since most people will probably forget they have him as scum. Shockey - I kind of liked that he gave a lot of reads at first but the way he's talking about his wife's birthday, etc. It just feels kind of fake to me and it feels like he's trying to make an excuse as to why he's posting so scummy (to people who thought his post was scummy). Gives me a very weird vibe. Oh fuck I forgot. Boxerfred gives me bad vibes too but I'll say it in another post. This WoT is probably becoming unreadable. ##Vote: Shockey On June 18 2015 02:08 NydusHerMain wrote:
Shockey is also pretty defensive (I wouldn't say super defensive) and doesn't really seem to be scum hunting. It's hard to scum hunt D1 opening though. It makes things much easier once there is a lot of posts (there was more than 30 since I last posted). LS - Obvious scum. + Show Spoiler +On June 18 2015 02:22 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2015 02:19 rsoultin wrote:
Hf
Why is your read on me so wishy washy?
The tone of your posts flips from townreading to scumreading pretty much every other post. You're not pressuring a soul but the afk.
bugs we're not lynching me. Find a better target Thoughts on Shockeyy so far? Completely starts trying to take away any suspicions on himself and tries to attack the inactive player (me) atm. On June 18 2015 07:16 LightningStrike wrote:
Damdred can you help defend me from meanie KSC and HF please? Also HF this game is going full GoT I don't want it go full GoT T_T Stop asking for other players help to defend you. You should be defending yourself, you have no case against me. You just thought it would be the easiest because I've barely posted. On June 18 2015 07:22 LightningStrike wrote:
Also everyone go after Shockeyy please he should flip scum I also willing to switch Boxer if a Shockeyy lynch not going to happen. Continue to attack me while I'm not even around? GJ. This post shows why LS is scum - he's willing to throw his "case" against me away to jump on a train that won't allow him to be lynched. Will be posting a follow up after I'm completely updated on the thread. My LS read made me go into his filter which might have a few quotes past the current page I'm on, but those posts about me are just disgusting.
Some thoughts have changed since the continuation of reading the thread. Will give final thoughts in a bit.
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On June 18 2015 11:53 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2015 11:52 LightningStrike wrote:On June 18 2015 11:52 ShoCkeyy wrote:What you mean this? On June 18 2015 03:54 LightningStrike wrote:On June 18 2015 03:54 KelsierSC wrote:
I'm going to leave this for now but I think i've made it quite clear that LS is scum and you should be voting for him if you're town.
I not I blue :O On day 1? We haven't even had a night post and didn't Onegu claim VT too? So we then have two VT's? Which one is it? I said named VT (Blue VT) As in I claimed Named VT because I am Named VT.
Lol, that shit isn't working on me.
On June 18 2015 04:57 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2015 04:54 wherebugsgo wrote:
and my read on him is not a "too dumb to be scum" thing which falls into the same category as what I described. It is dumb, but you need to ignore the fact that it is a dumb play. Dumb plays are normally not alignment indicative. It's the fact that the play attracts attention that is important. A claim day 1 attracts too much attention to ever be made by scum. Scum counter claim and make claims in situations where they absolutely have to in order to win. When they don't they've usually made a huge mistake and they often get punished really hard for it. If LS were scum here he'd know that a fake claim on day 1 would cause him to take a lot of attention and he'd never do that because his style is to slide by without actually doing anything or taking any attention.
To call him scum for a play that is quite literally antithetical to his playstyle is quite possibly dumber than the play he did himself. What if I say that claiming a blue role with little pressure is his scum meta?
On June 18 2015 04:43 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2015 04:40 LightningStrike wrote:On June 18 2015 04:38 GlowingBear wrote:
Ok I'm voting LS too You would rather lynch a blue. You idiot......................... DON'T LYNCH BLUES BRO OR YOU WILL LOSE............. claiming blue under no lynch pressure day 1 is almost as anti-town as being mafia.....just sayin.
JUST SAYIN
On June 18 2015 05:57 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2015 05:55 LightningStrike wrote:On June 18 2015 05:53 ritoky wrote:On June 18 2015 05:49 LightningStrike wrote:On June 18 2015 05:48 ritoky wrote:On June 18 2015 05:35 LightningStrike wrote:
FYI I Never had claimed blue as scum before simple as that for the counter point to GB said I had claimed blue as scum before -_- On June 17 2015 07:11 LightningStrike wrote:On June 17 2015 07:09 Onegu wrote:
My fucking VT claim. I really think HtS RNG machine is broken... Have rolled VT in everyone of her games... Sorry that VT claim wont fly you already cashed in on that in XXX so nice try you must prove to us that you are town other than a VT claim :o derp What those two posts you quoted for when you said derp? LS: "i never claim blue as scum" Onegu: "i only claim VT as town" see it now? choppa 4 reveals. Onegu had claimed VT as scum too? I never had claimed blue as scum and I know I not scum this game but rather a named VT. Jesus. You're literally making the same argument to defend yourself that you discredited early in the game. For many games Onegu only claimed VT as town, then guess what? He broke the trend. Wow! Hey look your defense sux cuz logic. Also dunno why you're even defending yourself if you're actually blue.
Then you don't even reply to that, but you reply to KSC voting you and disappear once again. You disappeared when there was clearly a discussion going on about you between, holyflare, KSC, bugs, GB and VA on pages 53,54. 30 minute different? It seemed like you were clearly around.
Because you only responded with this
On June 18 2015 05:35 LightningStrike wrote:
FYI I Never had claimed blue as scum before simple as that for the counter point to GB said I had claimed blue as scum before -_-
##vote LightningStrike
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Just going to quote this one more time for everyone.
On June 18 2015 06:46 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2015 06:44 KelsierSC wrote:On June 18 2015 06:40 LightningStrike wrote:On June 18 2015 06:36 KelsierSC wrote:On June 18 2015 06:30 LightningStrike wrote:On June 18 2015 06:25 Mig wrote:Regarding LS, why are people instantly believing his claim? What exactly has LS done to show he is town other than the claim? Starts off with the instant attacking onegu for claiming vt, struck me as trying to make a big deal out of completely nothing. People claim VT all the time. Follows it up with buddying up to bugs just non stop, completely plausible thing for a fishy mafia to try and buddy up to the guy who caught him last game. When asked for his scum reads he is incredibly wishy washy + Show Spoiler +On June 18 2015 02:13 LightningStrike wrote:It's only a weak scumread right now and would like to talk to him more when he gets backs so I can confirm my read plus have others give me their thoughts and see if align with my own thoughts. Also I did have a somewhat recent game as town when I didn't have a scumread for the first 48 hours so therefore you logic isn't exactly a scum tell  The game that I didn't have a scumread for the first 48 hours was Games of Thrones Mini recently if you want to check it out. And ends up saying he decided to vote for shockey because other people were on him (easy way to deflect blame if shockey flips town). Even his motto for handling rsoul is a straight copy from GB + Show Spoiler +On June 18 2015 02:43 LightningStrike wrote:
Also the best rule on rsoultin is that if she gets to LYLO you just lynch her because she is more likely scum when she hits LYLO from her recent games. LS do you actually have any original thoughts? Who besides shockey do you think is likely to be scum? I don't got anything original sorry  Maybe Boxer his posts seemed pretty weird esp because it looked like he didn't really read the thread when he posted which more likely to come from scum. Also HF because here another rule about rsoultin: If one of HF or rsoultin is scum they don't get along which has been proven to be correct for the most part I townreading rsultin therefore he would be the scum by the rule. Also the LYLO rule about her is actually accurate she for the most part now being night killed at night 1 and night 2 as town so when she reaches LYLO she is scum. I willing to take the blame of town!shockeyy lynch if he flips town but I believe he will flip red. What happened to this On June 18 2015 01:31 LightningStrike wrote:
Honestly Boxerfred is new HF give it some time bro like Bugs said he only started playing Mafia recently :O Honestly I decided to reread Boxer's filter after Mig commented about Boxer's stuff about timing and failing to deliver but I think if Boxer is town he will clear it up soonish but if he scum he prob wont do anything. you decided to re-read after mig commented on it...yeh I guess he is the only one who brought it up?? you said boxer is newish so why is he scum not new now? when hf pinged him out you defended bf because he was a new player but what has changed, the posts are still the same. I didn't really read his filter when I defended him honestly. I only really read his filter when Mig brought up Boxer's stuff regarding timing and failing to do promised stuff.
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On June 18 2015 09:28 Fidei86 wrote:
@Mig - I have looked over the filters of the two most likely lynch candidates, since that seemed as good a place as any to start trying to break things down.
BF - He has been totally lost in a discussion about meta, whether people can change their meta and whether people have changed their meta. He's had some odd use of language (saying "musclin'", for example) which shows a level of attention to how something sounds that is scummy to me. His vote on HF was based on a single post from rsoult, and was justified by "I don't like that". He has also checked into the thread a couple of times to say he would be on later, but then hasn't delivered. His writing is quite dense and WOTy, even when he writes short things.
Slight scum read - I would be okay with lynching him D1.
ShoCkeyy - His intial read on Onegu is just weird. Claiming VT early says very little about your alignment. If asked, everyone would claim it. It's also the easiest thing in the world to change up. His list post was just odd - it contained no reasoning whatsoever, and was mostly just full of jokes. He also had RL excuses for why he couldn't be around, but then continued to post anyway. He then later says that he's not making up reads, even though he hasn't really given any yet. His reasoning about his activity resonates with me though - he essentially says that you can't measure alignment based upon activity alone. I'm getting a town-y vibe from the way he has responded to criticism.
Slight town read.
Meh, I kept posting because I wasn't driving and used my phone before I actually reached my destination. Would you have rather me leave one post and disappear, or try to make an effort?
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The boxefred lynch is a little whatever for me atm, I'd have to keep reading into it.
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What kind of response is that? And why are you linking your own game??? Anybody can change there meta while saying "read my past meta". It's not hard.
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On June 18 2015 13:24 rsoultin wrote:
-sits on gb's head-
silence whargarbler
This is why you have the biggest filter in the game. You just spam bullshit.
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On June 18 2015 13:34 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2015 13:26 ShoCkeyy wrote:On June 18 2015 13:24 rsoultin wrote:
-sits on gb's head-
silence whargarbler This is why you have the biggest filter in the game. You just spam bullshit. it's cool. y'all don't get me and never have. i'm an acquired taste that some never acquire more relevant things now how long are you going to keep quoting nhm's post btw? did you noticed i answered it? what conclusions are you drawing from it? clearly it means something to you, or is supposed to, if you feel the need to repeat it? and stop being a child plzthx and kindly answer the questions rather than just fling mud i'm a sarcastic git but don't think i don't notice you ignoring the substantive pushes in my posts xP those questions above and why ls of everyone?
I quoted two posts of his? What? I can't quote town motivated players now? And answered what? Based on those quotes, you never responded to any of them. And if you're talking about respending to me, I've already replied.
read my post on LS next time? I have my doubts of other players but not enough to call them scum unlike LS...
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On June 18 2015 14:09 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2015 14:07 ritoky wrote:On June 18 2015 14:05 LightningStrike wrote:On June 18 2015 14:05 ritoky wrote:On June 18 2015 14:03 LightningStrike wrote:On June 18 2015 14:01 ritoky wrote:On June 18 2015 13:55 rsoultin wrote:On June 18 2015 13:52 ritoky wrote:
ugh i am in such a bad headspace right now. reading this thread making me angrier. why so angry? real life shit and LS' posting. i am about to say some fucking anti-town shit and i don't give a fuck. unless LS gets to a place where i can town read him for the remainder of the game today or there is slam dunk mafia i am probably voting on him. and i actually somewhat believe his blue claim is real. the problem is the guy keeps spewing anti-town sentiment every time he posts, seriously....he is going to be left alive all fucking game on this question mark of a claim and every phase we are gonna do the "whooaaaa should i lynch him today? dance" and it will probably cost town the fucking game. oh an if you're gonna fucking claim masons with damdred instead of your named VT shit, just do it. you're not subtle in the slightest. since you already claimed blue, if you don't do it now never gonna believe that shit. the state of this game angers me because i think the two people playing the most anti-town are likely town and we are in terrible trouble. Hey if you not going to vote me who you going to vote? I gave a TLDR case on Shockeyy in my filter if you want to read it and put your own input in there it convinced me about 1% of his alignment. so pretty much garbo What makes it garbo? what this guys said: On June 18 2015 13:48 Breshke wrote:On June 18 2015 13:42 LightningStrike wrote:On June 18 2015 13:33 Breshke wrote:On June 18 2015 13:25 LightningStrike wrote:On June 18 2015 13:18 Breshke wrote:On June 18 2015 13:09 LightningStrike wrote:On June 18 2015 12:34 Breshke wrote:On June 18 2015 11:26 LightningStrike wrote:
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People been pressuring non stop what else was I suppose to do -_- Does repeating "im blue" do anything? They know you claimed. Talk about other stuff Ya want to lynch Shockeyy with me? I want you to convince me why I should lynch shockey TLDR Case on Shockeyy: 1. His list post was rather shitty in terms of reasons 2. He been making excuses for his poor play 3. Some of posts seemed forced I will to vote Boxerfred if Shockeyy doesn't appear to be the lynch today but I think Shockeyy is worse than Boxer atm. Could you quote the posts which you think seem forced. These: On June 17 2015 09:10 ShoCkeyy wrote:rsoultin - idk wtf they're posting atm KelsierSC - reminds me of bugs, a butthole, but a town butthole Bill Murray - idk ritoky - Channel 4 Chop ShoCkeyy - Town Onegu - Misclaim to VT? We'll see, I'll just give him the benefit of the doubt. Holyflare - Opening/Only post claims town lol. Damdred + Show Spoiler +On June 17 2015 07:09 Damdred wrote:
So ok claiming town which means ls is scum On June 17 2015 08:29 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2015 08:25 KelsierSC wrote:On June 17 2015 08:21 Damdred wrote:On June 17 2015 08:15 KelsierSC wrote:On June 17 2015 08:09 LightningStrike wrote:On June 17 2015 08:08 NydusHerMain wrote:
I don't think LS is being that towny o.O. Am I crazy? I'm not saying he's not town but how do people have a "probs town" or "hard town" read on him already. Because they know my meta? Check the database lpus Witchcraft III for my meta if you want any seriously can you shut the fuck up already with this shit you have just taken a shit in your hand and thrown whatever came out into the thread. I don't think your town and bringing up all this meta crap so early on is fucking irritating Even if I'm right and your town keep the bm out of thread. Its not needed even if you are annoyed at this point. I'll substantiate later, but I don't believe nhm or ls are capable of posting such as these as scum. Both are somewhat meta based reads. Kel is just a maybe town. I know I'm town obviously I also think gb is a decent shot as town but don't tell him I said that you can explain ls right now actually...what has he posted that makes him town? There's a lot of shit but nothing of real value. There are two types of people that play mafia 1. Players who are capable of changing meta and care 2. Players who only play for one alignment and either refuse or can't change meta LS belongs in group 2, he's already done several of his town tells at this point. Digging up old,meta cases on him to show how people know him. He's sort of jokey, and he's willing to get into,confrontations to a degree. As scum he's lazy, he is serious and skittish. He's town to me at this juncture. So Damdred, which one is it? Is LS scum cause you're town, or is LS town and you're scum? Or are you both town or scum? Also can you answer this? On June 17 2015 08:12 NydusHerMain wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2015 08:11 LightningStrike wrote:On June 17 2015 08:09 ritoky wrote:current state of the thread: more updates to come. choppa 4 on the scene. Ugh can you tell me what your reads are atm based on stuff happening? Give it a day or two... Damdred can you substantiate your reads a bit please? Especially on LS and that other guy? Last game you were one of the first ones to give content and you gave pretty good explanations on each of them... You posted afterwards but never responded to this. NydusHerMain - Town? Fidei86 + Show Spoiler +On June 17 2015 08:13 Fidei86 wrote:
Evening guys. In case you haven't played with me before, this is my second game (first was Holy Guardians). Heading to bed now, but it looks like there'll be a ton of posts ready for me when I wake up ... Why post this if 40 mins later you're going to post again? On June 17 2015 08:57 Fidei86 wrote:
Everyone I played with in HG seems to be carrying on as they left off, except Onegu isn't shit-posting as much, though that's probably because the end of the last game was pretty hype and probably got him jacked to play again. Others will know GB better than I do, but in the HG ins thread he was poking everyone to make reads super early, so that probably means it's his natural play style. He gets a slight town read. I better see poking this game Breshke - His posting currently comes off as town to me atm Mig - waiting GlowingBear - Who knows, acts like a child when things don't go his way in town/scum games. LightningStrike - Acting like he cares? I don't know yet, but his posting looks familiar with his last game where he was scum (not caring about what he writes) wherebugsgo - Ego town butthole VayneAuthority - Not much boxerfred - First post is what? Going to leave now, in-laws are in town. Context of that post: He haven't posted for a little over 1 hour and seemed kinda forced to give a list of reads plus I felt like his reads weren't as insightful as his last game like when he was around he was pushing shit more than did this game. On June 17 2015 22:51 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Alright going to try and get this going here. I don't get why people care so much about activity? It's been known since this forum even started that people lurk and will always lurk. I can't be posting all day and night as some others here cause I own four businesses + consult major businesses. I use mafia as a past time and can post when I have free time. If you like my activity great, if you don't sucks for you. At least I try and help the town win rather than post non-sense and spam up the thread.
@Breshke - It's not that I didn't care about my read, is that every one and their mothers is already giving their read on LS. Why do I need to ask a question that was already answer?
@KSC - I don't get why you think I was going after damdred? It was just an early post to get more info on him and in return he got info out of me. I never even claimed I think he's mafia. If anything, his reads seem town motivated.
The list post I made was just have my notes out early. Today alone is my wife's birthday and I have planned to spend it with her - I even posted before game started I will be active mornings and nights (nights meaning before bed time).
@LS - I have, but I haven't been able to deep dive into them. Currently, I'm basing your posting style to your previous game we played together.
I'll be back at night and post follow up responses. I will also try to respond from my phone if possible. Outside the questions in that post it seemed much more fluff than anything. So your three reasons for scumming him were 1 bad list post 2. makes excuses 3. posts seemed forced But 3 is actually just 1 and 2 because the posts you said seemed forced are the list post and him making an excuse. Frankly i don't think shockey saying shit about not posting much is alignment indicative for him since he did it in witch (might have been post game) but he did do it so it is something he would complain about as either alignment. I don't know what to say to you LS it doesn't feel like you really think he is scum. plus you say feels weird or some synonym a lot, which makes me turn my brain off. I not exactly great at explaining stuff and rsoultin usually is my translator for me for this type of stuff. (Prods rsoultin to do some translation work)
Why do you continue asking for other people to help you?
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On June 18 2015 14:15 rsoultin wrote:
i'm not asking why you're scumreading lightningstrike shockey
i'm asking you why he is your top scumread...though perhaps the better way to phrase it is if he suddenly dropped dead, who else are you willing to lynch?
your only purpose for quoting those was to say nhm was town...multiple times? okay i guess lol ><
In all honesty? You, but you still haven't given me a valid reason to call you scum and my current scum radar is going off on LS. And if you read my post you would see why he's my top scum read.
And as mentioned I haven't fully looked into boxerfred yet. I've only read what holyflare has mentioned about him.
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On June 18 2015 14:22 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2015 14:21 ShoCkeyy wrote:On June 18 2015 14:15 rsoultin wrote:
i'm not asking why you're scumreading lightningstrike shockey
i'm asking you why he is your top scumread...though perhaps the better way to phrase it is if he suddenly dropped dead, who else are you willing to lynch?
your only purpose for quoting those was to say nhm was town...multiple times? okay i guess lol >< In all honesty? You, but you still haven't given me a valid reason to call you scum and my current scum radar is going off on LS. And if you read my post you would see why he's my top scum read. And as mentioned I haven't fully looked into boxerfred yet. I've only read what holyflare has mentioned about him. that's cool. you once made a terrible list post a couple hours into the day and it was terrible. can you do that again but make it less terrible this time? thanks.
I will post my list in the morning. Going to let the posts rack up a bit more. I want to see others thoughts before I finalize it for day 1.
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Alright chops 4, btw what did you think of my push against LS and his responses to me? Also thoughts on rsoul?
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GB give me your real thoughts on myself and LS, also what did you think of my push against LS? you were one of the few that I quoted.
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On June 18 2015 14:27 ShoCkeyy wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2015 14:22 ritoky wrote:On June 18 2015 14:21 ShoCkeyy wrote:On June 18 2015 14:15 rsoultin wrote:
i'm not asking why you're scumreading lightningstrike shockey
i'm asking you why he is your top scumread...though perhaps the better way to phrase it is if he suddenly dropped dead, who else are you willing to lynch?
your only purpose for quoting those was to say nhm was town...multiple times? okay i guess lol >< In all honesty? You, but you still haven't given me a valid reason to call you scum and my current scum radar is going off on LS. And if you read my post you would see why he's my top scum read. And as mentioned I haven't fully looked into boxerfred yet. I've only read what holyflare has mentioned about him. that's cool. you once made a terrible list post a couple hours into the day and it was terrible. can you do that again but make it less terrible this time? thanks. I will post my list in the morning. Going to let the posts rack up a bit more. I want to see others thoughts before I finalize it for day 1.
town:
nhm - nhm's posting just reads town motivated, but he probably will drop to town lean due to his inactivity.
ritoky - I like your posting style from the start, it probably rubs off the wrong way to certain people, but I found it easy to be able to communicate with you
town lean:
breshke - He really comes off as my highest town lean atm, his posting is like the game before and he was town with me.
damdred - my reasons before.
rsoul - her post below put her into the town lean last night. Still wary because she talks about LS as if he can't be scum.
scum lean:
LS - Read filter, I gave quite a few good points on him.
bugs - His case will come afterwards, but his protection of LS just seems weird
+ Show Spoiler +On June 18 2015 22:55 wherebugsgo wrote:
I see I have been ninjaed.
Re: LS, I didn't defend LS prior to the claim because I myself was unsure of his alignment at that point. To me he seemed townish but my reasons were not very well qualified and it was mostly on the basis of him not acting in a very similar way to how he did in the last game where he was scum and we got him killed day 1. Indeed here his defense is a lot more passioned whereas in the previous game and in all the other scum games I read in which he got lynched he more or less rolled over and died.
The claim however pretty much instantly erased any doubts I had and that's when I chose to defend him because I knee jubjubs and scum would jump all over that shit to call him scum. The two worst responses IMO were yours and GB, and to a lesser extent Onegu whose only listed reason for voting was policy. IMO people who do not view that claim as a townish thing to do are either mafia or bad, and I really prefer not to assume someone is bad town when they have demonstrated some capability of thinking analytically.
GB's reaction to the claim was really terrible. He flipped his read on LS completely which is not what I would expect town to do simply on the basis of a claim. It also appeared very opportunistic because as soon as I showed resistance he backed off, and curiously tried to get my opinion on another low-hanging-fruit of a player, VA.
What's interesting to me here is that the more that I think on kt and write it out the more I find GB scummy than anyone else. Anyone else down to kill him today? I'm down, what's weird is that you talk about GB being weird for jumping off the LS train, but you're pretty much also doing the same thing, but with a lot more content to it...
lohen - based on thread and points brought up on him. He's new to the game, but still hasn't really posted much...
On June 18 2015 14:37 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2015 14:33 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Alright chops 4, btw what did you think of my push against LS and his responses to me? Also thoughts on rsoul? I agree with your points but not necessarily your conclusion. Because you seem to not regard the fact that he has done stupid claim shit like this as town on day 1 under no lynch pressure before. Your points aren't wrong, those are anti-town things and his responses to you are bleh at best. I learned from a recent Obs game that rsoul is an easy read for me in the late game. The problem is she shoots me as scum early in games and I shoot her as scum early in games so neither one of us ever gets there is we are opposing alignments. She is town for now cuz she seems interested in solving the game; will re-evaluate later. Except I expect after my outburst I am gonna get the HF treatment tonight.
But what makes it the same as his previous claims? And I mentioned to him that it's easy to change meta, what are your thoughts on that?
On June 18 2015 14:40 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2015 14:38 ShoCkeyy wrote:
GB give me your real thoughts on myself and LS, also what did you think of my push against LS? you were one of the few that I quoted. I don't remember it. I'll need to read your filter again. I think you're scum based on imperfect meta. I remember being on your skin last game and you kept being very... how could I say... cool headed? And I'm not actually seeing this here. LS has 8 pages of filter and I'm not lynching anyone like that day1
Did you ever read my filter? And why do you base games on largest filters? I don't get it, I have a small filter and I'm pro town. How does a large filter benefit town when trying to make cases on scum?
On June 18 2015 14:32 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2015 14:21 ShoCkeyy wrote:On June 18 2015 14:15 rsoultin wrote:
i'm not asking why you're scumreading lightningstrike shockey
i'm asking you why he is your top scumread...though perhaps the better way to phrase it is if he suddenly dropped dead, who else are you willing to lynch?
your only purpose for quoting those was to say nhm was town...multiple times? okay i guess lol >< In all honesty? You, but you still haven't given me a valid reason to call you scum and my current scum radar is going off on LS. And if you read my post you would see why he's my top scum read. And as mentioned I haven't fully looked into boxerfred yet. I've only read what holyflare has mentioned about him. oh i actually thought this was directed at rit lol >< dude, you're going to have to get over the fact that i'm ridiculously involved in threads. there's a method to the madness, and maybe it's not the best for town i'll admit but it somehow works best for me and regardless scum kills me frequently enough that apparently they don't like it either not really gonna change just cause people disapprove (especially since i doubt i can xP)if you read my filter, really read it, you will find what everyone finds and namely that is there's a ton more content than meets the eye if all you've got is me and ls that's bad for you cause you're probably not lynching scum lol
Bolded the necessary points so you can start understanding.
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BF's is fucking weird, I'll admit that. He keeps saying he'll be back, he's going to give reads, but nothing comes out other than attacking Holyflare, but it's not enough to make me change my mind on my LS push.
GB is still null for me, still hasn't read my filter and given me a response, if it keeps going ignored, he's just going to keep dropping into my scum lean.
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On June 19 2015 01:58 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2015 01:50 ShoCkeyy wrote:On June 18 2015 14:27 ShoCkeyy wrote:On June 18 2015 14:22 ritoky wrote:On June 18 2015 14:21 ShoCkeyy wrote:On June 18 2015 14:15 rsoultin wrote:
i'm not asking why you're scumreading lightningstrike shockey
i'm asking you why he is your top scumread...though perhaps the better way to phrase it is if he suddenly dropped dead, who else are you willing to lynch?
your only purpose for quoting those was to say nhm was town...multiple times? okay i guess lol >< In all honesty? You, but you still haven't given me a valid reason to call you scum and my current scum radar is going off on LS. And if you read my post you would see why he's my top scum read. And as mentioned I haven't fully looked into boxerfred yet. I've only read what holyflare has mentioned about him. that's cool. you once made a terrible list post a couple hours into the day and it was terrible. can you do that again but make it less terrible this time? thanks. I will post my list in the morning. Going to let the posts rack up a bit more. I want to see others thoughts before I finalize it for day 1. town: nhm - nhm's posting just reads town motivated, but he probably will drop to town lean due to his inactivity. ritoky - I like your posting style from the start, it probably rubs off the wrong way to certain people, but I found it easy to be able to communicate with you town lean: breshke - He really comes off as my highest town lean atm, his posting is like the game before and he was town with me. damdred - my reasons before. rsoul - her post below put her into the town lean last night. Still wary because she talks about LS as if he can't be scum. scum lean: LS - Read filter, I gave quite a few good points on him. bugs - His case will come afterwards, but his protection of LS just seems weird + Show Spoiler +On June 18 2015 22:55 wherebugsgo wrote:
I see I have been ninjaed.
Re: LS, I didn't defend LS prior to the claim because I myself was unsure of his alignment at that point. To me he seemed townish but my reasons were not very well qualified and it was mostly on the basis of him not acting in a very similar way to how he did in the last game where he was scum and we got him killed day 1. Indeed here his defense is a lot more passioned whereas in the previous game and in all the other scum games I read in which he got lynched he more or less rolled over and died.
The claim however pretty much instantly erased any doubts I had and that's when I chose to defend him because I knee jubjubs and scum would jump all over that shit to call him scum. The two worst responses IMO were yours and GB, and to a lesser extent Onegu whose only listed reason for voting was policy. IMO people who do not view that claim as a townish thing to do are either mafia or bad, and I really prefer not to assume someone is bad town when they have demonstrated some capability of thinking analytically.
GB's reaction to the claim was really terrible. He flipped his read on LS completely which is not what I would expect town to do simply on the basis of a claim. It also appeared very opportunistic because as soon as I showed resistance he backed off, and curiously tried to get my opinion on another low-hanging-fruit of a player, VA.
What's interesting to me here is that the more that I think on kt and write it out the more I find GB scummy than anyone else. Anyone else down to kill him today? I'm down, what's weird is that you talk about GB being weird for jumping off the LS train, but you're pretty much also doing the same thing, but with a lot more content to it... lohen - based on thread and points brought up on him. He's new to the game, but still hasn't really posted much... On June 18 2015 14:37 ritoky wrote:On June 18 2015 14:33 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Alright chops 4, btw what did you think of my push against LS and his responses to me? Also thoughts on rsoul? I agree with your points but not necessarily your conclusion. Because you seem to not regard the fact that he has done stupid claim shit like this as town on day 1 under no lynch pressure before. Your points aren't wrong, those are anti-town things and his responses to you are bleh at best. I learned from a recent Obs game that rsoul is an easy read for me in the late game. The problem is she shoots me as scum early in games and I shoot her as scum early in games so neither one of us ever gets there is we are opposing alignments. She is town for now cuz she seems interested in solving the game; will re-evaluate later. Except I expect after my outburst I am gonna get the HF treatment tonight. But what makes it the same as his previous claims? And I mentioned to him that it's easy to change meta, what are your thoughts on that? On June 18 2015 14:40 GlowingBear wrote:On June 18 2015 14:38 ShoCkeyy wrote:
GB give me your real thoughts on myself and LS, also what did you think of my push against LS? you were one of the few that I quoted. I don't remember it. I'll need to read your filter again. I think you're scum based on imperfect meta. I remember being on your skin last game and you kept being very... how could I say... cool headed? And I'm not actually seeing this here. LS has 8 pages of filter and I'm not lynching anyone like that day1 Did you ever read my filter? And why do you base games on largest filters? I don't get it, I have a small filter and I'm pro town. How does a large filter benefit town when trying to make cases on scum? On June 18 2015 14:32 rsoultin wrote:On June 18 2015 14:21 ShoCkeyy wrote:On June 18 2015 14:15 rsoultin wrote:
i'm not asking why you're scumreading lightningstrike shockey
i'm asking you why he is your top scumread...though perhaps the better way to phrase it is if he suddenly dropped dead, who else are you willing to lynch?
your only purpose for quoting those was to say nhm was town...multiple times? okay i guess lol >< In all honesty? You, but you still haven't given me a valid reason to call you scum and my current scum radar is going off on LS. And if you read my post you would see why he's my top scum read. And as mentioned I haven't fully looked into boxerfred yet. I've only read what holyflare has mentioned about him. oh i actually thought this was directed at rit lol >< dude, you're going to have to get over the fact that i'm ridiculously involved in threads. there's a method to the madness, and maybe it's not the best for town i'll admit but it somehow works best for me and regardless scum kills me frequently enough that apparently they don't like it either not really gonna change just cause people disapprove (especially since i doubt i can xP)if you read my filter, really read it, you will find what everyone finds and namely that is there's a ton more content than meets the eye if all you've got is me and ls that's bad for you cause you're probably not lynching scum lol Bolded the necessary points so you can start understanding. Haven't read you filter yet I base day1 on biggest filters, not the whole game
What? Why? I based my day 1 on whole thread and the interactions that happen between players. How can you see what's going on if you're only doing the biggest filters.
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On June 19 2015 03:47 KelsierSC wrote:Can you actually explain what point you are making with this rather than just linking the page
If you read it, which literally takes 5 minutes, you'll see why I linked it?....
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GB can you stop completely ignoring my questions and stop ignoring the read I asked to do of me? And don't tell me it's because I have a small filter (wtf kind of logic is that). Tell me why I shouldn't vote for you?
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Ok this is twice I've been ignored. Just going to park my vote here until 10mins before lynch time. Let's see what happens.
##unvote
##vote GlowingBear
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On June 19 2015 06:27 KelsierSC wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2015 06:23 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Ok this is twice I've been ignored. Just going to park my vote here until 10mins before lynch time. Let's see what happens.
##unvote
##vote GlowingBear like this is really fucking weird
Why is it?
I asked him here:
On June 19 2015 01:50 ShoCkeyy wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2015 14:27 ShoCkeyy wrote:On June 18 2015 14:22 ritoky wrote:On June 18 2015 14:21 ShoCkeyy wrote:On June 18 2015 14:15 rsoultin wrote:
i'm not asking why you're scumreading lightningstrike shockey
i'm asking you why he is your top scumread...though perhaps the better way to phrase it is if he suddenly dropped dead, who else are you willing to lynch?
your only purpose for quoting those was to say nhm was town...multiple times? okay i guess lol >< In all honesty? You, but you still haven't given me a valid reason to call you scum and my current scum radar is going off on LS. And if you read my post you would see why he's my top scum read. And as mentioned I haven't fully looked into boxerfred yet. I've only read what holyflare has mentioned about him. that's cool. you once made a terrible list post a couple hours into the day and it was terrible. can you do that again but make it less terrible this time? thanks. I will post my list in the morning. Going to let the posts rack up a bit more. I want to see others thoughts before I finalize it for day 1. town: nhm - nhm's posting just reads town motivated, but he probably will drop to town lean due to his inactivity. ritoky - I like your posting style from the start, it probably rubs off the wrong way to certain people, but I found it easy to be able to communicate with you town lean: breshke - He really comes off as my highest town lean atm, his posting is like the game before and he was town with me. damdred - my reasons before. rsoul - her post below put her into the town lean last night. Still wary because she talks about LS as if he can't be scum. scum lean: LS - Read filter, I gave quite a few good points on him. bugs - His case will come afterwards, but his protection of LS just seems weird + Show Spoiler +On June 18 2015 22:55 wherebugsgo wrote:
I see I have been ninjaed.
Re: LS, I didn't defend LS prior to the claim because I myself was unsure of his alignment at that point. To me he seemed townish but my reasons were not very well qualified and it was mostly on the basis of him not acting in a very similar way to how he did in the last game where he was scum and we got him killed day 1. Indeed here his defense is a lot more passioned whereas in the previous game and in all the other scum games I read in which he got lynched he more or less rolled over and died.
The claim however pretty much instantly erased any doubts I had and that's when I chose to defend him because I knee jubjubs and scum would jump all over that shit to call him scum. The two worst responses IMO were yours and GB, and to a lesser extent Onegu whose only listed reason for voting was policy. IMO people who do not view that claim as a townish thing to do are either mafia or bad, and I really prefer not to assume someone is bad town when they have demonstrated some capability of thinking analytically.
GB's reaction to the claim was really terrible. He flipped his read on LS completely which is not what I would expect town to do simply on the basis of a claim. It also appeared very opportunistic because as soon as I showed resistance he backed off, and curiously tried to get my opinion on another low-hanging-fruit of a player, VA.
What's interesting to me here is that the more that I think on kt and write it out the more I find GB scummy than anyone else. Anyone else down to kill him today? I'm down, what's weird is that you talk about GB being weird for jumping off the LS train, but you're pretty much also doing the same thing, but with a lot more content to it... lohen - based on thread and points brought up on him. He's new to the game, but still hasn't really posted much... Show nested quote +On June 18 2015 14:37 ritoky wrote:On June 18 2015 14:33 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Alright chops 4, btw what did you think of my push against LS and his responses to me? Also thoughts on rsoul? I agree with your points but not necessarily your conclusion. Because you seem to not regard the fact that he has done stupid claim shit like this as town on day 1 under no lynch pressure before. Your points aren't wrong, those are anti-town things and his responses to you are bleh at best. I learned from a recent Obs game that rsoul is an easy read for me in the late game. The problem is she shoots me as scum early in games and I shoot her as scum early in games so neither one of us ever gets there is we are opposing alignments. She is town for now cuz she seems interested in solving the game; will re-evaluate later. Except I expect after my outburst I am gonna get the HF treatment tonight. But what makes it the same as his previous claims? And I mentioned to him that it's easy to change meta, what are your thoughts on that? Show nested quote +On June 18 2015 14:40 GlowingBear wrote:On June 18 2015 14:38 ShoCkeyy wrote:
GB give me your real thoughts on myself and LS, also what did you think of my push against LS? you were one of the few that I quoted. I don't remember it. I'll need to read your filter again. I think you're scum based on imperfect meta. I remember being on your skin last game and you kept being very... how could I say... cool headed? And I'm not actually seeing this here. LS has 8 pages of filter and I'm not lynching anyone like that day1 Did you ever read my filter? And why do you base games on largest filters? I don't get it, I have a small filter and I'm pro town. How does a large filter benefit town when trying to make cases on scum? Show nested quote +On June 18 2015 14:32 rsoultin wrote:On June 18 2015 14:21 ShoCkeyy wrote:On June 18 2015 14:15 rsoultin wrote:
i'm not asking why you're scumreading lightningstrike shockey
i'm asking you why he is your top scumread...though perhaps the better way to phrase it is if he suddenly dropped dead, who else are you willing to lynch?
your only purpose for quoting those was to say nhm was town...multiple times? okay i guess lol >< In all honesty? You, but you still haven't given me a valid reason to call you scum and my current scum radar is going off on LS. And if you read my post you would see why he's my top scum read. And as mentioned I haven't fully looked into boxerfred yet. I've only read what holyflare has mentioned about him. oh i actually thought this was directed at rit lol >< dude, you're going to have to get over the fact that i'm ridiculously involved in threads. there's a method to the madness, and maybe it's not the best for town i'll admit but it somehow works best for me and regardless scum kills me frequently enough that apparently they don't like it either not really gonna change just cause people disapprove (especially since i doubt i can xP)if you read my filter, really read it, you will find what everyone finds and namely that is there's a ton more content than meets the eye if all you've got is me and ls that's bad for you cause you're probably not lynching scum lol Bolded the necessary points so you can start understanding.
and here:
On June 19 2015 05:42 ShoCkeyy wrote:
GB can you stop completely ignoring my questions and stop ignoring the read I asked to do of me? And don't tell me it's because I have a small filter (wtf kind of logic is that). Tell me why I shouldn't vote for you?
And all he says is that he would just lynch me in a pinch? My LS push isn't going to happen D1 obviously, I rather help lynch a scummy player, which you saw for yourself. I don't get why is weird that I voted for him now? Why switch your vote for me?
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On June 19 2015 06:41 KelsierSC wrote:
I think what shockeyy has done is super scummy.
Early on I didn't like him.
when the pressure was on he went at LS after I had done so, was there anything new, felt opportunistic I don't know.
wait forever for him to come back
comes back with underwhelming list post.
on that post he was wbg and LS as his top scum.
he shows up now, fakes some weird anger that GB didn't respond to him specifically and then votes him out of nowehere and fucks off
this vote has to happen.
I didn't fuck off? I just said I'll possibly change my vote for GB depending on what happens...
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On June 19 2015 06:45 KelsierSC wrote:hmm...i thought you had bf as a main scum read though Ugh I don't know this is super fucking weird.
And he still hasn't fucking answered me? Don't you see? This is why I switched. I just posted it out flat for you and him to see why I switched my vote. It just drives me mad when a player can easily avoid me voting them by just answering my question. My read on GB was null as you can see... After he went off with his rage posts, I brought it up that he played just like that in the previous game where he was scum and a smurf... Now how is that weird that I vote for him?
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On June 19 2015 06:49 KelsierSC wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2015 06:47 ShoCkeyy wrote:On June 19 2015 06:45 KelsierSC wrote:On June 19 2015 06:42 GlowingBear wrote:
Yeah, I'm going against Shockey hmm...i thought you had bf as a main scum read though Ugh I don't know this is super fucking weird. And he still hasn't fucking answered me? Don't you see? This is why I switched. I just posted it out flat for you and him to see why I switched my vote. It just drives me mad when a player can easily avoid me voting them by just answering my question. My read on GB was null as you can see... After he went off with his rage posts, I brought it up that he played just like that in the previous game where he was scum and a smurf... Now how is that weird that I vote for him? what was your question, why shouldn't you vote for him he has posted quite a few defences, he didn't say "here shockeyy this one is just for you" but it is in the thread so read.
Can you just read my post previously? I asked more than "Why should I not vote for you"....
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On June 19 2015 06:53 KelsierSC wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2015 06:51 ShoCkeyy wrote:On June 19 2015 06:49 KelsierSC wrote:On June 19 2015 06:47 ShoCkeyy wrote:On June 19 2015 06:45 KelsierSC wrote:On June 19 2015 06:42 GlowingBear wrote:
Yeah, I'm going against Shockey hmm...i thought you had bf as a main scum read though Ugh I don't know this is super fucking weird. And he still hasn't fucking answered me? Don't you see? This is why I switched. I just posted it out flat for you and him to see why I switched my vote. It just drives me mad when a player can easily avoid me voting them by just answering my question. My read on GB was null as you can see... After he went off with his rage posts, I brought it up that he played just like that in the previous game where he was scum and a smurf... Now how is that weird that I vote for him? what was your question, why shouldn't you vote for him he has posted quite a few defences, he didn't say "here shockeyy this one is just for you" but it is in the thread so read. Can you just read my post previously? I asked more than "Why should I not vote for you".... you asked him to read your filter..well he has been pretty fucking busy with other people you have had this weird fake rage reaction like "well you are ignoring me so im going to pressure vote you..." in a situation that gets him lynched...it makes no fucking sense.
Alright fine, let's see how this goes.
##unvote
##vote Boxerfred
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Sorry guys, was driving/eating dinner, going to catch up. I saw BF flipped town. So brings me back to this:
On June 19 2015 06:27 KelsierSC wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2015 06:23 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Ok this is twice I've been ignored. Just going to park my vote here until 10mins before lynch time. Let's see what happens.
##unvote
##vote GlowingBear like this is really fucking weird
You bitch about me switching to GB, then now bitch about me switching off, which one did you want? I switched to GB due to reasons mentioned. I would of stayed there, but BF's filter was scummy too. BF disappears before vote ended while GB kept defending himself, which made me second guess the vote and I switched to BF.
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Just wanted to throw this out there, GB you've been saying I'm scum since the beginning in like in every game we have played together, you constantly attack me just cause. You don't even have a real reason as to why I am scum this game, you just say I am.
Now I want you to think about the logic behind my vote switch. You say that the game is based on the biggest filter which I repeatedly asked you to give me a good explanation here and quite multiple times.
"Did you ever read my filter? And why do you base games on largest filters? I don't get it, I have a small filter and I'm pro town. How does a large filter benefit town when trying to make cases on scum?"
Which you some what answered here, but I'm expecting something different out of you:
On June 19 2015 13:58 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2015 09:55 wherebugsgo wrote:On June 19 2015 09:52 rsoultin wrote:On June 19 2015 09:44 wherebugsgo wrote:On June 19 2015 09:40 Fidei86 wrote:
WBG, I'm going to hit you with some LOGIC right now.
If you're town, some of the people who are disagreeing with you KNOW you're wrong/right (because they're mafia!) and therefore their responses to your thoughts may well make no sense. The people you DO want to work with you (ie the town) are probably not going to appreciate being called dullards, so you just lost influence with them.
Obviously if you're mafia then w/e.
In summary - if you're town, don't say shit like that. Otherwise, people might start thinking you're mafia. I honestly don't care if some people think I am mafia. If they are town and they want to think that they are in some bizarro world they can, but they aren't doing themselves or the rest of the team any favours in doing so. Right now I'm pretty annoyed with the game given that I basically posted constantly and gave the best effort I could possibly give to get GB lynched and yet we lost at the end because of people like Shockeyy and Onegu who did absolutely nothing all game and yet had the greatest influence over the lynch in the end. The best part about all of this is that we have people like rsoultin who are fairly likely to be town at the end of it all complaining about the thread being hard or too long to read when they have the largest filters in the game, and yet having literally 0 scumreads over a space of 48 hours. while i work with the more than 0 scumreads i already gave you almighty amazing reader misrepresenting me so awesomely right now, do you mind attempting to reapproach the game from the perspective that you might actually be mistaken on gb, or is that a futile request for me to make, even as a hypothetical exercise? I already did that and the game actually doesn't make sense from that perspective why the fuck would multiple people hammer BF right at the end with no explanation whatsoever if there were two townies up for lynch? The case on GB was far stronger than the one on BF and pretty much the only person that disagreed with that was you. In fact, even some people who supposedly agreed with the GB case, e.g. Shockeyy and Mig voted BF instead of GB, while our troll friend ritoky over here ended up kindly wasting his vote completely. I want to give yamato the benefit of the doubt that he legitimately just forgot to vote or whatever but that lack of vote is also really damning for him given that he also found GB scummy prior to the lynch. Whatever though, I hate replacements and given his posting style and comments this game he's probably not scum anyway. You will ALWAYS be able to build bigger and more comprehensive cases on people that have 10x the pages of a second scum read. You're basically saying I'm Mafia with Shockey and Onegu out of bad unflipped association
I need you to realize, I had the voting power to either lynch you or BF. I lynched BF because I based my response out of your stupid thought of having the biggest filter to not lynch D1 and his slight scum posts but what happened? We lynched a town, if you were pro town, why did you switch to me, the "new" lynch train? Why didn't you just stay on LS or switch to BF from the get go? Why were you second guessing who to vote? As soon as I voted you, you instantly switched to me, then I switch off you switched off.
On June 19 2015 13:52 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2015 09:27 Fidei86 wrote:
WOWWW that last post of mine was crap. I should probably persevere and actually try and finish the filter dive. BRB. THIS post was crap. Why are you second guessing your own posts and posting this to tell us you're going to keep filter diving?
Because you already have the biggest filter in the game. We lynched the smallest, now we should lynch the biggest if that's the logic you play by. Are you going to keep creating posts to build your filter to make it harder to scum read you?
On June 19 2015 02:10 ShoCkeyy wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2015 01:58 GlowingBear wrote:On June 19 2015 01:50 ShoCkeyy wrote:On June 18 2015 14:27 ShoCkeyy wrote:On June 18 2015 14:22 ritoky wrote:On June 18 2015 14:21 ShoCkeyy wrote:On June 18 2015 14:15 rsoultin wrote:
i'm not asking why you're scumreading lightningstrike shockey
i'm asking you why he is your top scumread...though perhaps the better way to phrase it is if he suddenly dropped dead, who else are you willing to lynch?
your only purpose for quoting those was to say nhm was town...multiple times? okay i guess lol >< In all honesty? You, but you still haven't given me a valid reason to call you scum and my current scum radar is going off on LS. And if you read my post you would see why he's my top scum read. And as mentioned I haven't fully looked into boxerfred yet. I've only read what holyflare has mentioned about him. that's cool. you once made a terrible list post a couple hours into the day and it was terrible. can you do that again but make it less terrible this time? thanks. I will post my list in the morning. Going to let the posts rack up a bit more. I want to see others thoughts before I finalize it for day 1. town: nhm - nhm's posting just reads town motivated, but he probably will drop to town lean due to his inactivity. ritoky - I like your posting style from the start, it probably rubs off the wrong way to certain people, but I found it easy to be able to communicate with you town lean: breshke - He really comes off as my highest town lean atm, his posting is like the game before and he was town with me. damdred - my reasons before. rsoul - her post below put her into the town lean last night. Still wary because she talks about LS as if he can't be scum. scum lean: LS - Read filter, I gave quite a few good points on him. bugs - His case will come afterwards, but his protection of LS just seems weird + Show Spoiler +On June 18 2015 22:55 wherebugsgo wrote:
I see I have been ninjaed.
Re: LS, I didn't defend LS prior to the claim because I myself was unsure of his alignment at that point. To me he seemed townish but my reasons were not very well qualified and it was mostly on the basis of him not acting in a very similar way to how he did in the last game where he was scum and we got him killed day 1. Indeed here his defense is a lot more passioned whereas in the previous game and in all the other scum games I read in which he got lynched he more or less rolled over and died.
The claim however pretty much instantly erased any doubts I had and that's when I chose to defend him because I knee jubjubs and scum would jump all over that shit to call him scum. The two worst responses IMO were yours and GB, and to a lesser extent Onegu whose only listed reason for voting was policy. IMO people who do not view that claim as a townish thing to do are either mafia or bad, and I really prefer not to assume someone is bad town when they have demonstrated some capability of thinking analytically.
GB's reaction to the claim was really terrible. He flipped his read on LS completely which is not what I would expect town to do simply on the basis of a claim. It also appeared very opportunistic because as soon as I showed resistance he backed off, and curiously tried to get my opinion on another low-hanging-fruit of a player, VA.
What's interesting to me here is that the more that I think on kt and write it out the more I find GB scummy than anyone else. Anyone else down to kill him today? I'm down, what's weird is that you talk about GB being weird for jumping off the LS train, but you're pretty much also doing the same thing, but with a lot more content to it... lohen - based on thread and points brought up on him. He's new to the game, but still hasn't really posted much... On June 18 2015 14:37 ritoky wrote:On June 18 2015 14:33 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Alright chops 4, btw what did you think of my push against LS and his responses to me? Also thoughts on rsoul? I agree with your points but not necessarily your conclusion. Because you seem to not regard the fact that he has done stupid claim shit like this as town on day 1 under no lynch pressure before. Your points aren't wrong, those are anti-town things and his responses to you are bleh at best. I learned from a recent Obs game that rsoul is an easy read for me in the late game. The problem is she shoots me as scum early in games and I shoot her as scum early in games so neither one of us ever gets there is we are opposing alignments. She is town for now cuz she seems interested in solving the game; will re-evaluate later. Except I expect after my outburst I am gonna get the HF treatment tonight. But what makes it the same as his previous claims? And I mentioned to him that it's easy to change meta, what are your thoughts on that? On June 18 2015 14:40 GlowingBear wrote:On June 18 2015 14:38 ShoCkeyy wrote:
GB give me your real thoughts on myself and LS, also what did you think of my push against LS? you were one of the few that I quoted. I don't remember it. I'll need to read your filter again. I think you're scum based on imperfect meta. I remember being on your skin last game and you kept being very... how could I say... cool headed? And I'm not actually seeing this here. LS has 8 pages of filter and I'm not lynching anyone like that day1 Did you ever read my filter? And why do you base games on largest filters? I don't get it, I have a small filter and I'm pro town. How does a large filter benefit town when trying to make cases on scum? On June 18 2015 14:32 rsoultin wrote:On June 18 2015 14:21 ShoCkeyy wrote:On June 18 2015 14:15 rsoultin wrote:
i'm not asking why you're scumreading lightningstrike shockey
i'm asking you why he is your top scumread...though perhaps the better way to phrase it is if he suddenly dropped dead, who else are you willing to lynch?
your only purpose for quoting those was to say nhm was town...multiple times? okay i guess lol >< In all honesty? You, but you still haven't given me a valid reason to call you scum and my current scum radar is going off on LS. And if you read my post you would see why he's my top scum read. And as mentioned I haven't fully looked into boxerfred yet. I've only read what holyflare has mentioned about him. oh i actually thought this was directed at rit lol >< dude, you're going to have to get over the fact that i'm ridiculously involved in threads. there's a method to the madness, and maybe it's not the best for town i'll admit but it somehow works best for me and regardless scum kills me frequently enough that apparently they don't like it either not really gonna change just cause people disapprove (especially since i doubt i can xP)if you read my filter, really read it, you will find what everyone finds and namely that is there's a ton more content than meets the eye if all you've got is me and ls that's bad for you cause you're probably not lynching scum lol Bolded the necessary points so you can start understanding. Haven't read you filter yet I base day1 on biggest filters, not the whole game What? Why? I based my day 1 on whole thread and the interactions that happen between players. How can you see what's going on if you're only doing the biggest filters.
You can keep thinking i'm scum, but if you are really town, I need you to realize I lynched the one that really seemed scummier to me. Either we work together and really find scum or you keep on with your ignorance of me since the first game we played together.
Now back to re-reading thread and follow up since I have the time to do so atm.
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ruxxar, welcome.
When you're done giving your read on me, can you give your thoughts on Lohengramm? Seems like he's just MIA and no one has even talked about it.
Ritoky, when I said I was rereading thread, I literally meant I was re-reading thread.There's currently 138 pages and out of all of them, Lohengramm has provided almost nothing useful and I want to see the new guys and your thoughts on him.
This post here is his scummiest post:
On June 18 2015 09:54 Lohengramm wrote:
i started reading but then I stopped
how useful is actually reading this game, exactly?
60 pages seems overkill for 24 hours LOL
And he's pretty much been gone since this post.
On June 19 2015 09:23 Lohengramm wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2015 09:22 Fidei86 wrote:
People, I want to talk about VayneAuthority.
That last post really felt off to me. I've been the first one to complain about the tone of the game, but when I did it I was trying to be constructive ("stop posting so much, please, give me a chance to catch up!"). But what VA is doing in that last post is trying to drain the will of the town to keep playing. Four or five people (including ritoky, who I'm going to keep town reading up until he inevitably flips mafia, knowing my luck) have already said they're burned. Why would anyone who was town pile on?
So that took me on to the filter dive. I have nothing to report. There's two pages, and literally not a single substantive post or comment. Nothing, in an entire two full calendar days (and one mafia 'day'). It's all pictures, one-line questions and general filler. No apparent attempt to understand the game, even on a bitesize level.
I'm reading VA hard scum for this. welcome to playing with vayneauthority
How are any of these posts town motivated? He's been gone from most of the game.
On June 19 2015 08:27 Lohengramm wrote:
pretty sure GB is mafia at this point
maybe if you guys stop posting I can eventually read this game
but let's be real, that's never going to happen
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On June 20 2015 23:31 Holyflare wrote:
Yeh he's bad. Shockey tell me what you think of gb at moment since you post like he's a town read but don't really talk about the lynch yesterday at all?
Wait, didn't you read what I posted in regards to GB? I talked about the lynch there to.
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On June 20 2015 16:03 ritoky wrote:
how is his approach to you townie GB? he was talking to you like he knew 100% you were confirmed town...
and then he promised a buncha shit and didn't deliver....that's not particular townie.
What are you talking about? Can you please show me where I promised a bunch of stuff? I said I'm re-reading thread and have time to post afterwards, which is what I'm doing here now. Finished reading thread and now I have time to sit and start discussing who is scum for D2 lynch.
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1. I still think LS is scum, his pay is just bad in general.
On June 20 2015 16:18 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On June 20 2015 16:05 ritoky wrote:On June 20 2015 15:34 GlowingBear wrote:
Well, I'm town. He sees two town wagons. He decides to lynch boxer. Why not taking the easier path and lynching me, who he brought more suspicions before?
I think it would fit better a mafia mindset of survivability if he just lynched me. Nobody would be questioning him today. Why drawing so much attention as mafia? On June 20 2015 15:14 ritoky wrote:
cuz if mig is mafia and it is 2 town wagons, there's no reason to flip his read and draw suspicion on himself by lynching the person he wasn't scum reading all phase. that would mean GB almost MUST be mafia with mig and he voted to keep a teammate alive. Yeah, I saw this after I posted. That's why I'm townreading him now To be fair, I think mafia could've let me alive so they could mislynch me today, and that is what I thought Mig did when he voted boxerfred. But seeing that he ACTUALLY had suspicions on boxerfred, his vote made sense to me and this came clear to my mind. About Shockey. Yeah, he talked to me like I was town. But he did vote someone else right? Maybe he had a townread on me? Although he did vote me, putting me in majority... Maybe I'm flattered . I promise to filter dive him tomorrow as soon as I wake up to get a better read.
2. GB please do so and while you're at it, can you at least answer my questions in my filter? I gave you the benefit of the doubt in terms of the vote switch.
On June 20 2015 01:30 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On June 20 2015 01:23 ShoCkeyy wrote:Just wanted to throw this out there, GB you've been saying I'm scum since the beginning in like in every game we have played together, you constantly attack me just cause. You don't even have a real reason as to why I am scum this game, you just say I am. Now I want you to think about the logic behind my vote switch. You say that the game is based on the biggest filter which I repeatedly asked you to give me a good explanation here and quite multiple times. "Did you ever read my filter? And why do you base games on largest filters? I don't get it, I have a small filter and I'm pro town. How does a large filter benefit town when trying to make cases on scum?"Which you some what answered here, but I'm expecting something different out of you: On June 19 2015 13:58 GlowingBear wrote:On June 19 2015 09:55 wherebugsgo wrote:On June 19 2015 09:52 rsoultin wrote:On June 19 2015 09:44 wherebugsgo wrote:On June 19 2015 09:40 Fidei86 wrote:
WBG, I'm going to hit you with some LOGIC right now.
If you're town, some of the people who are disagreeing with you KNOW you're wrong/right (because they're mafia!) and therefore their responses to your thoughts may well make no sense. The people you DO want to work with you (ie the town) are probably not going to appreciate being called dullards, so you just lost influence with them.
Obviously if you're mafia then w/e.
In summary - if you're town, don't say shit like that. Otherwise, people might start thinking you're mafia. I honestly don't care if some people think I am mafia. If they are town and they want to think that they are in some bizarro world they can, but they aren't doing themselves or the rest of the team any favours in doing so. Right now I'm pretty annoyed with the game given that I basically posted constantly and gave the best effort I could possibly give to get GB lynched and yet we lost at the end because of people like Shockeyy and Onegu who did absolutely nothing all game and yet had the greatest influence over the lynch in the end. The best part about all of this is that we have people like rsoultin who are fairly likely to be town at the end of it all complaining about the thread being hard or too long to read when they have the largest filters in the game, and yet having literally 0 scumreads over a space of 48 hours. while i work with the more than 0 scumreads i already gave you almighty amazing reader misrepresenting me so awesomely right now, do you mind attempting to reapproach the game from the perspective that you might actually be mistaken on gb, or is that a futile request for me to make, even as a hypothetical exercise? I already did that and the game actually doesn't make sense from that perspective why the fuck would multiple people hammer BF right at the end with no explanation whatsoever if there were two townies up for lynch? The case on GB was far stronger than the one on BF and pretty much the only person that disagreed with that was you. In fact, even some people who supposedly agreed with the GB case, e.g. Shockeyy and Mig voted BF instead of GB, while our troll friend ritoky over here ended up kindly wasting his vote completely. I want to give yamato the benefit of the doubt that he legitimately just forgot to vote or whatever but that lack of vote is also really damning for him given that he also found GB scummy prior to the lynch. Whatever though, I hate replacements and given his posting style and comments this game he's probably not scum anyway. You will ALWAYS be able to build bigger and more comprehensive cases on people that have 10x the pages of a second scum read. You're basically saying I'm Mafia with Shockey and Onegu out of bad unflipped association I need you to realize, I had the voting power to either lynch you or BF. I lynched BF because I based my response out of your stupid thought of having the biggest filter to not lynch D1 and his slight scum posts but what happened? We lynched a town, if you were pro town, why did you switch to me, the "new" lynch train? Why didn't you just stay on LS or switch to BF from the get go? Why were you second guessing who to vote? As soon as I voted you, you instantly switched to me, then I switch off you switched off. On June 19 2015 13:52 GlowingBear wrote:On June 19 2015 09:27 Fidei86 wrote:
WOWWW that last post of mine was crap. I should probably persevere and actually try and finish the filter dive. BRB. THIS post was crap. Why are you second guessing your own posts and posting this to tell us you're going to keep filter diving? Because you already have the biggest filter in the game. We lynched the smallest, now we should lynch the biggest if that's the logic you play by. Are you going to keep creating posts to build your filter to make it harder to scum read you? On June 19 2015 02:10 ShoCkeyy wrote:On June 19 2015 01:58 GlowingBear wrote:On June 19 2015 01:50 ShoCkeyy wrote:On June 18 2015 14:27 ShoCkeyy wrote:On June 18 2015 14:22 ritoky wrote:On June 18 2015 14:21 ShoCkeyy wrote:On June 18 2015 14:15 rsoultin wrote:
i'm not asking why you're scumreading lightningstrike shockey
i'm asking you why he is your top scumread...though perhaps the better way to phrase it is if he suddenly dropped dead, who else are you willing to lynch?
your only purpose for quoting those was to say nhm was town...multiple times? okay i guess lol >< In all honesty? You, but you still haven't given me a valid reason to call you scum and my current scum radar is going off on LS. And if you read my post you would see why he's my top scum read. And as mentioned I haven't fully looked into boxerfred yet. I've only read what holyflare has mentioned about him. that's cool. you once made a terrible list post a couple hours into the day and it was terrible. can you do that again but make it less terrible this time? thanks. I will post my list in the morning. Going to let the posts rack up a bit more. I want to see others thoughts before I finalize it for day 1. town: nhm - nhm's posting just reads town motivated, but he probably will drop to town lean due to his inactivity. ritoky - I like your posting style from the start, it probably rubs off the wrong way to certain people, but I found it easy to be able to communicate with you town lean: breshke - He really comes off as my highest town lean atm, his posting is like the game before and he was town with me. damdred - my reasons before. rsoul - her post below put her into the town lean last night. Still wary because she talks about LS as if he can't be scum. scum lean: LS - Read filter, I gave quite a few good points on him. bugs - His case will come afterwards, but his protection of LS just seems weird + Show Spoiler +On June 18 2015 22:55 wherebugsgo wrote:
I see I have been ninjaed.
Re: LS, I didn't defend LS prior to the claim because I myself was unsure of his alignment at that point. To me he seemed townish but my reasons were not very well qualified and it was mostly on the basis of him not acting in a very similar way to how he did in the last game where he was scum and we got him killed day 1. Indeed here his defense is a lot more passioned whereas in the previous game and in all the other scum games I read in which he got lynched he more or less rolled over and died.
The claim however pretty much instantly erased any doubts I had and that's when I chose to defend him because I knee jubjubs and scum would jump all over that shit to call him scum. The two worst responses IMO were yours and GB, and to a lesser extent Onegu whose only listed reason for voting was policy. IMO people who do not view that claim as a townish thing to do are either mafia or bad, and I really prefer not to assume someone is bad town when they have demonstrated some capability of thinking analytically.
GB's reaction to the claim was really terrible. He flipped his read on LS completely which is not what I would expect town to do simply on the basis of a claim. It also appeared very opportunistic because as soon as I showed resistance he backed off, and curiously tried to get my opinion on another low-hanging-fruit of a player, VA.
What's interesting to me here is that the more that I think on kt and write it out the more I find GB scummy than anyone else. Anyone else down to kill him today? I'm down, what's weird is that you talk about GB being weird for jumping off the LS train, but you're pretty much also doing the same thing, but with a lot more content to it... lohen - based on thread and points brought up on him. He's new to the game, but still hasn't really posted much... On June 18 2015 14:37 ritoky wrote:On June 18 2015 14:33 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Alright chops 4, btw what did you think of my push against LS and his responses to me? Also thoughts on rsoul? I agree with your points but not necessarily your conclusion. Because you seem to not regard the fact that he has done stupid claim shit like this as town on day 1 under no lynch pressure before. Your points aren't wrong, those are anti-town things and his responses to you are bleh at best. I learned from a recent Obs game that rsoul is an easy read for me in the late game. The problem is she shoots me as scum early in games and I shoot her as scum early in games so neither one of us ever gets there is we are opposing alignments. She is town for now cuz she seems interested in solving the game; will re-evaluate later. Except I expect after my outburst I am gonna get the HF treatment tonight. But what makes it the same as his previous claims? And I mentioned to him that it's easy to change meta, what are your thoughts on that? On June 18 2015 14:40 GlowingBear wrote:On June 18 2015 14:38 ShoCkeyy wrote:
GB give me your real thoughts on myself and LS, also what did you think of my push against LS? you were one of the few that I quoted. I don't remember it. I'll need to read your filter again. I think you're scum based on imperfect meta. I remember being on your skin last game and you kept being very... how could I say... cool headed? And I'm not actually seeing this here. LS has 8 pages of filter and I'm not lynching anyone like that day1 Did you ever read my filter? And why do you base games on largest filters? I don't get it, I have a small filter and I'm pro town. How does a large filter benefit town when trying to make cases on scum? On June 18 2015 14:32 rsoultin wrote:On June 18 2015 14:21 ShoCkeyy wrote:On June 18 2015 14:15 rsoultin wrote:
i'm not asking why you're scumreading lightningstrike shockey
i'm asking you why he is your top scumread...though perhaps the better way to phrase it is if he suddenly dropped dead, who else are you willing to lynch?
your only purpose for quoting those was to say nhm was town...multiple times? okay i guess lol >< In all honesty? You, but you still haven't given me a valid reason to call you scum and my current scum radar is going off on LS. And if you read my post you would see why he's my top scum read. And as mentioned I haven't fully looked into boxerfred yet. I've only read what holyflare has mentioned about him. oh i actually thought this was directed at rit lol >< dude, you're going to have to get over the fact that i'm ridiculously involved in threads. there's a method to the madness, and maybe it's not the best for town i'll admit but it somehow works best for me and regardless scum kills me frequently enough that apparently they don't like it either not really gonna change just cause people disapprove (especially since i doubt i can xP)if you read my filter, really read it, you will find what everyone finds and namely that is there's a ton more content than meets the eye if all you've got is me and ls that's bad for you cause you're probably not lynching scum lol Bolded the necessary points so you can start understanding. Haven't read you filter yet I base day1 on biggest filters, not the whole game What? Why? I based my day 1 on whole thread and the interactions that happen between players. How can you see what's going on if you're only doing the biggest filters. You can keep thinking i'm scum, but if you are really town, I need you to realize I lynched the one that really seemed scummier to me. Either we work together and really find scum or you keep on with your ignorance of me since the first game we played together. Now back to re-reading thread and follow up since I have the time to do so atm. Wow. This post is so townie it hurts. Alright, I've calling you scum out of tone and imperfect meta. I'll take a step back and assume you can be town, since now I am very inclined to lynch other people I don't really want to fully disclose now.
Can you disclose it soon? We're close to a d2 lynch and would like to see your thoughts before we mislynch again...
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So as I was reading thread and trying to figure out why KSC was lynched night one, I saw who he was bringing up as his scum reads:
On June 17 2015 21:32 KelsierSC wrote:
So I'm going to give where I'm at in the game so far.
Town
Damdred - I liked his posting and the tone he used for his explanation of LS felt good. I think his response to shockey was pretty towny aswell
Nydus - I've liked his posting and his activity. we haven't played together but he feels like town
GB - he's kind of been doing his own shit but I think he's been around for most of the important points and he's been explaining some of his reasoning e.g why he thought i might be mafia, he went and looked at his own read of onegu and went back on it which felt town.
Ritoky - Made me laugh a few times, been jokey but has been giving input aswell. His point on GB and Damdred was kind of stupid but it felt like he was trying to figure some stuff out.
hf - CONFIRMED TOWN. no in all seriousness when he just voted BM I just thought it would be interesting to see what happened so I went along with it. After reading the thread I liked his posting with regards to bugs and rsoul, I also think the reason for voting BM is actually good.
Scum
LS - tried to spam early literally responding to every joke/picture and then asking questions which in my opinion didn't lead anywhere. It felt like he was trying to mimic town...rather than actually helping town. giving defenses of people and posting old games. I didn't feel this was helping town at all.
I think his early "derp" was quite telling, it showed he just wanted to post rather than think about his posting.
His slip just now with regards to shockey is telling. He said his content was "okay" despite the fact the content was terrible and shockey's scum read was LS himself.
The reasoning for it was poor, but LS said he felt the reason was genuine...but he felt the reason was poor?? this makes no sense. I actually think that LS just straight didn't read shockey and called him town because..he knew he was town? or shockey is a partner?
Shockey - terrible early list post with shit reasons, didn't read damdred properly and when he got pinged he tried to go at damdred..it felt like an aggressive reaction when you just fucked up. a lot his posting just felt like backtracking.
Bugs - early posts were awful, I highlighted this. He's just a massive twat so his fighting doesn't change my opinion of his alignment, when he posts something else then I can look again but for now he is scum.
BM - Hf reason is good
Outside of that there are a few people that I don't know about yet and i'm reading through again.
Feel free to ask questions.
He lists LS, myself, bugs and who is yamato now. Now I still have my suspicions of LS, but KSC had his through out the whole day 1. He also had his suspicions on Yamato who so happens to be MIA but then KSC is dead N1.
On June 20 2015 02:30 KelsierSC wrote:this is how shit looked before the GB stuff started. Show nested quote +On June 18 2015 23:34 Half the Sky wrote:Day 1 Vote Count boxerfred (7): Holyflare, GlowingBear, Breshke, rsoultin, LightningStrike, Fidei86, Damdred LightningStrike (3): KelsierSC, Onegu, GlowingBear, KelsierSC, ShoCkeyy ShoCkeyy (1): NydusHerMain, NydusHerMain, LightningStrike, KelsierSCHolyflare (1): boxerfred Lohengramm (1): VayneAuthority GlowingBear (1): wherebugsgo KelsierSC (0): wherebugsgorsoultin (0): wherebugsgo, VayneAuthority, GlowingBear, HolyflareOnegu (0): NydusHerMainwherebugsgo (0): KelsierSCMig (0): wherebugsgoNot voted (3): Lohengramm, ritoky, Mig Clinging to the ledge, boxerfred hangs over the abyss.
Day 1 ends in at 22:00 GMT (+00:00).
The voting thread is here.
Only votes in the voting thread will be counted. we know bf is town. let's say GB is mafia it instantly clears bugs, VA, LS and hf. hf would have no reason to switch from town to his mafia buddy, nor LS , bugs went crazy on him and VA provided the meta case. Show nested quote +On June 19 2015 03:57 Half the Sky wrote:Day 1 Vote Count boxerfred (6): Holyflare, GlowingBear, Breshke, rsoultin, LightningStrike, Fidei86, Damdred GlowingBear (4): wherebugsgo, KelsierSC, VayneAuthority, LightningStrike LightningStrike (2): KelsierSC, Onegu, GlowingBear, KelsierSC, ShoCkeyy Holyflare (1): boxerfred Onegu (1): NydusHerMain, NydusHerMain Lohengramm (0): VayneAuthorityShoCkeyy (0): NydusHerMain, NydusHerMain, LightningStrike, KelsierSCKelsierSC (0): wherebugsgorsoultin (0): wherebugsgo, VayneAuthority, GlowingBear, Holyflarewherebugsgo (0): KelsierSCMig (0): wherebugsgoNot voted (3): Lohengramm, ritoky, Mig Clinging to the ledge, boxerfred hangs over the abyss.
Day 1 ends in at 22:00 GMT (+00:00).
The voting thread is here.
Only votes in the voting thread will be counted. so mafia probably can't let a man go down and have a whole bunch of confirmed town so bf needs to die. Show nested quote +On June 19 2015 04:12 NydusHerMain wrote:
I won't be able to make a case on onegu in enough time but I think gb is townier than bf
##Vote: boxerfred doesn't look great for you, but I think this is consistent with his logic and nydus feels town Show nested quote +On June 19 2015 05:28 Half the Sky wrote:Day 1 Vote Count boxerfred (6): Holyflare, GlowingBear, Breshke, rsoultin, LightningStrike, Fidei86, Damdred, NydusHerMain GlowingBear (5): wherebugsgo, KelsierSC, VayneAuthority, LightningStrike, Holyflare, KelsierSC LightningStrike (2): KelsierSC, Onegu, GlowingBear, KelsierSC, ShoCkeyy, KelsierSCHolyflare (1): boxerfred Onegu (0): NydusHerMain, NydusHerMainLohengramm (0): VayneAuthorityShoCkeyy (0): NydusHerMain, NydusHerMain, LightningStrike, KelsierSCKelsierSC (0): wherebugsgorsoultin (0): wherebugsgo, VayneAuthority, GlowingBear, Holyflarewherebugsgo (0): KelsierSCMig (0): wherebugsgoNot voted (3): Lohengramm, ritoky, Mig Clinging to the ledge, boxerfred hangs over the abyss.
Day 1 ends in at 22:00 GMT (+00:00).
The voting thread is here.
Only votes in the voting thread will be counted. we reach this point with things looking bad for mafia in this time we get some interesting votes yamato does apparently vote for boxer but it doesnt go through Show nested quote +On June 19 2015 04:30 Lohengramm wrote:
I'm going to continue to smurf for filter purposes, and because this account's name is fucking awesome. But yes, I am Yamato.
I will read filters until deadline. BF I have already read but if he's posted anything new I will give my thoughts. I will read LS closer but I really don't think he's mafia at all. As said before, I have a vague suspicion of GB but I admittedly only read like 10 pages.
For now, so I don't get modkilled after replacing in;
##Vote: boxerfred I think if GB is mafia then this is highly suspicous. Fide pokes his head into to say why he won't vote GB Show nested quote +On June 19 2015 05:24 Fidei86 wrote:
@Kel I'm around, keeping tabs on the thread while I'm at work. For what it's worth, and it's probably not much, I agree with GB's sentiment here. A d1 lynch is pretty unlikely to succeed. In the last game I was in (HG) the top three wagons on d1 were all town. This game has been 20 times less likely to actually find a scum imo, given that we're almost at ninety pages after 2 days. PSA: People, your spam and OMGUS'ing is not helpful. You make it super easy for mafia just to blend in to the noise, and you make it super hard for townies (like me) to actually engage with what's going on. If you have a case, please MAKE IT, then let other people actually read it. Don't just keep spamming back and forth. If you're town, you're NEVER going to convince a mafia that they are mafia - they'll keep protesting their innocence until they are lynched. Same if they're town. The people you have to convince is everyone else, and frankly I'm just kind of turned off by all this.
So, back to GB - he's posting, people can get reads on him, and those reads will only get stronger and more accurate over time. Worst case if we don't lynch him is that he's mafia and we catch him later. However, if we do lynch him, we're missing the opportunity to lynch a scummy lurker. If you let the lurkers live, they just turn the later days into a coinflip for active town. Show nested quote +On June 19 2015 05:44 Half the Sky wrote:Day 1 Vote Count boxerfred (6): Holyflare, GlowingBear, Breshke, rsoultin, LightningStrike, Fidei86, Damdred, NydusHerMain GlowingBear (5): wherebugsgo, KelsierSC, VayneAuthority, LightningStrike, Holyflare, KelsierSC LightningStrike (2): KelsierSC, Onegu, GlowingBear, KelsierSC, ShoCkeyy, KelsierSCHolyflare (1): boxerfred Onegu (0): NydusHerMain, NydusHerMainLohengramm (0): VayneAuthorityShoCkeyy (0): NydusHerMain, NydusHerMain, LightningStrike, KelsierSCKelsierSC (0): wherebugsgorsoultin (0): wherebugsgo, VayneAuthority, GlowingBear, Holyflarewherebugsgo (0): KelsierSCMig (0): wherebugsgoNot voted (3): Lohengramm, ritoky, Mig Clinging to the ledge, boxerfred hangs over the abyss.
Day 1 ends in at 22:00 GMT (+00:00).
The voting thread is here.
Only votes in the voting thread will be counted. we are around this point just before migs vote Show nested quote +On June 19 2015 06:49 Half the Sky wrote:Day 1 Vote Count GlowingBear (6): wherebugsgo, KelsierSC, VayneAuthority, LightningStrike, Holyflare, KelsierSC, boxerfred, ShoCkeyy boxerfred (6): Holyflare, GlowingBear, Breshke, rsoultin, LightningStrike, Fidei86, Damdred, NydusHerMain, Onegu ShoCkeyy (3): NydusHerMain, NydusHerMain, LightningStrike, KelsierSC, KelsierSC, GlowingBear, ritoky LightningStrike (0): KelsierSC, Onegu, GlowingBear, KelsierSC, ShoCkeyy, KelsierSCHolyflare (0): boxerfredOnegu (0): NydusHerMain, NydusHerMainLohengramm (0): VayneAuthorityKelsierSC (0): wherebugsgorsoultin (0): wherebugsgo, VayneAuthority, GlowingBear, Holyflarewherebugsgo (0): KelsierSCMig (0): wherebugsgoNot voted (2): Lohengramm, Mig Clinging to the ledge, GlowingBear hangs over the abyss.
Day 1 ends in at 22:00 GMT (+00:00).
The voting thread is here.
Only votes in the voting thread will be counted. at this point we get interesting things happening. breshke with the potential god tier switch sudden response. so in the palce where GB is mafia I think the best place to look is onegu, ShoCkeyy, Mig, Fide and yamatonote that shockkey talks about controlling the lynch but at the time he voted for glowing bear, yamato and mig had not voted so mafia would still be in control of the lynch. if they were mafia.. i will next see how it looks if GB is town and then draw conclusions
In all honesty, I would continue to push LS because his filter is just bad, but that won't go well with other townies for their reasons, but I rather push for Yamato who at the moment looks the scummiest this whole game. Especially with KSC dead and him bringing minor accusations to him.
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On June 21 2015 00:46 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On June 20 2015 23:31 Holyflare wrote:
Yeh he's bad. Shockey tell me what you think of gb at moment since you post like he's a town read but don't really talk about the lynch yesterday at all? plz just do this again in like a small bullet pointed summary why did you think gb was town, more so than bf? did you read the points everyone was bringing up on gb? what do you think happened at the end of the day at lynch time? do you still think gb is town? if you think gb is town then who do you actually think is mafia?
1) I associated his way of playing the game which is basing it on the biggest filter - didn't work out too well
2) Of course, I contributed to the points and showed case his previous scum game - in all honesty, I feel like his meta switched as soon as we brought up how he caps & spams when he's scum and people are accusing him.
3) read 1
4) GB is still in the null for me, it's really a coin flip for me atm. He can seriously be slow at trying to find scum or he's scum and prolonging his life
5) I feel like Yamato is more scum than GB at this moment.
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On June 21 2015 00:51 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +In all honesty, I would continue to push LS because his filter is just bad, but that won't go well with other townies for their reasons tell me the reasons and why you're scared to push it against people??? why would you care what other people think of you if you think a guy is mafia?
Because half the town thinks the guy is town, he would have to survive to D3 for people to really consider him scum. And all he is doing is helping me build my case for him D3 lynch.
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On June 21 2015 00:54 Holyflare wrote:
what do you mean in point 1? don't quite understand it, you didn't think he was mafia because he had a big filter? is that the only reason?
No, I never said I didn't think he was mafia when I vote switched. I gave him the benefit of the doubt due to meta. He himself claims that he doesn't like lynching the biggest filters on D1. So I tried what he normally does and it didn't work out well...
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On June 21 2015 01:02 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On June 21 2015 00:58 ShoCkeyy wrote:On June 21 2015 00:54 Holyflare wrote:
what do you mean in point 1? don't quite understand it, you didn't think he was mafia because he had a big filter? is that the only reason? No, I never said I didn't think he was mafia when I vote switched. I gave him the benefit of the doubt due to meta. He himself claims that he doesn't like lynching the biggest filters on D1. So I tried what he normally does and it didn't work out well... umm earlier you had a completely different reason for switching? Show nested quote +On June 19 2015 09:26 ShoCkeyy wrote:Sorry guys, was driving/eating dinner, going to catch up. I saw BF flipped town. So brings me back to this: On June 19 2015 06:27 KelsierSC wrote:On June 19 2015 06:23 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Ok this is twice I've been ignored. Just going to park my vote here until 10mins before lynch time. Let's see what happens.
##unvote
##vote GlowingBear like this is really fucking weird You bitch about me switching to GB, then now bitch about me switching off, which one did you want? I switched to GB due to reasons mentioned. I would of stayed there, but BF's filter was scummy too. BF disappears before vote ended while GB kept defending himself, which made me second guess the vote and I switched to BF.
Yea? Both reasons tie into each other? What are you trying to say?
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On June 21 2015 05:39 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On June 21 2015 05:30 Onegu wrote:
TBH I have never seen scum fake claim mason I think that's exactly what HF wants you to think. Tell me why he would do that as town. His gameplay in the beginning of the game was "I won't be active to survive n1", yet he fake claims in a way that if mafia sees it, he dies night1?
GB, tell me why LS claim then unclaim and how can that make him town?
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On June 21 2015 02:38 GlowingBear wrote:
I woke up
Shockey, answer me before I go diving: when did the big filter thing crossed your mind?
When I voted for you which was the reason for me coming back 10mins before vote ended to change my vote. I wanted to see how you handled the pressure vs how Boxerfred did, boxer didn't come back and I gave you the benefit of the doubt due to D1 big filter that you go by, he also had scummier posts in my eyes.
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On June 21 2015 06:24 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On June 21 2015 06:21 Onegu wrote:
He has worked everyday this week... Plus weekends he works like all day... dude i get being busy i'm taking two college classes in one month right now @.@ and trying to finish up all the moving details...which is why i made the drive down to san antonio yet againbut he hasn't posted in over 40 hours. in literally over 40 hours don't tell me that's just cause he's working oneg
Lol, just wait until you start working... Currently, I'm putting in at least 80 hours a week, but my situation is completely different. Also, I talked about Yamato earlier, if you can read my post on him and tell me what you think?
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Why? What have I done for you to want to lynch me? Is there something I should explain to you so you can understand?
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On June 21 2015 14:42 GlowingBear wrote:
LS is 100% town
Why is Rsoultin voting me'?
On June 21 2015 06:04 ShoCkeyy wrote:Show nested quote +On June 21 2015 05:39 GlowingBear wrote:On June 21 2015 05:30 Onegu wrote:
TBH I have never seen scum fake claim mason I think that's exactly what HF wants you to think. Tell me why he would do that as town. His gameplay in the beginning of the game was "I won't be active to survive n1", yet he fake claims in a way that if mafia sees it, he dies night1? GB, tell me why LS claim then unclaim and how can that make him town?
Hey GB, can you just answer this? or quote where you talked about him being town to you? I tried to find it through out your filter and really couldn't.
On June 21 2015 22:42 LightningStrike wrote:
You know what I just had a better thought: I think the majority of us here think Shockeyy is scum I didn't like his EoD although for a little before EoD he startled looking better but his explanation for his switch to Boxerfred doesn't match up what he had just said to ritoky. I wont be here for the majority of the day since it's father's day I prob wont be here EoD since I going to Six Flags for Father's Day with my family. Idc if I got a null read on VA but I got a townread on GB on meta and would rather lynch Shockeyy over GB any day.
##Unvote
##Vote: ShoCkeyy
What? lol... Did you even read thread?
On June 21 2015 23:23 NydusHerMain wrote:
Incase I miss EoD,
##Vote: Shockey
I think he's scummier than GB. GB I'm only reading scummy because a lot of my towns are on him.
Care to explain why I'm scummier? No one has really said why and how I can be scum other than "I think he's scummier" even LS's push against me was trash. He had no reason to think so.
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Also NHM, still waiting for this:
On June 21 2015 07:11 NydusHerMain wrote:
Whatever the Shockey read is like 40 pages old. Stay tuned until later tonight for a more accurate representation of my reads.
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Also OT:
Happy father's day to any one who's a father. May your legacy be proud and appreciative of you 
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Oh.
Back to the day lynch. I don't get why people that play as townies play so scummy. It's seriously frustrating.
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On June 22 2015 07:43 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On June 22 2015 07:41 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Oh.
Back to the day lynch. I don't get why people that play as townies play so scummy. It's seriously frustrating. >> lol you were one of the wagons shockeyy i haven't had the opportunity to prod you much...you've been skating by a bit. where you at, boyo?
I'm at my step sisters Father's Day party (posting from phone). What's boyo? And on the wagon thing, that's fine, all you'd end up with is a dead townie and not move the game forward.
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Onegu, they're obviously not going to lynch LS for idk what reasons, but what are your thoughts so far on the game? Are you going to post your reads after N2?
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Rsoul, I'm around if you want to probe my thought process as well. I'll be checking in and out of the thread cause obv I'm at my job, but it's not as busy as it usually is.
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On June 23 2015 01:53 Holyflare wrote:
I'm here but yeh jobzzzz :/
Honestly bit lost with 2 of my scummy reads being cop and green checked
Did you have any other reads other than GB who you tunneled? Have you looked into Onegu at all?
GB what are your thoughts on Onegu as well? You seem to hate that he also tunnels only LS.
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On June 17 2015 10:02 Damdred wrote:
So...
All a sudden my gut says shockey is town...it's for bassist reasons though, so I might ! have to hedge my bets like palmar
On June 22 2015 07:06 Damdred wrote:
I still think LS is town, I read his filter or scanned it and it looks like town LS.
I'd probably be ok with Shockey maybe oneg I need to read rux
What's your reasoning for flipping your read on me?
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Well yam failed to vote day 1 and boxer voted for GB day 1.
On June 21 2015 07:15 NydusHerMain wrote:
Hey Rs, and this question is only directed at you (and maybe hf), ignoring the threat I made against you (that was kinda trolly FYI but I never apologized for it and I'm doing it now) based on day 1, do you think I'd be an enjoyable person to play with on tl? I know that probably means you have to assume I'm town, which I am, but I wanna know if I should keep playing. I don't want to be that annoying guy that just posts but no one really cares about.
Nydus why would you even say this? I town read you on day 1, but as the days past you seem to just not even bother playing which makes me second guess myself and my read on you.
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On June 23 2015 09:10 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2015 09:05 VayneAuthority wrote:On June 23 2015 09:02 rsoultin wrote:
okay so unless my math is really off...
d4 is mylo if we don't get a scum lynch today
va why did you overlook shockey? if you place so much emphasis on nightkills
i had my vote on shockey for a majority of the day yesterday. I was shedding new possible reads, he's still there i mean it's a little wifomy but bear with me n1 strongly suggests mafia shot into protection. i see no reason to withhold a shot on one of the two nights they get two so medic dodge shots make a lot of sense here and if you're going to medic dodge you're most likely going to shoot harder to lynch townies and/or ones that have the correct reads both rit and breshke were scumreading shock pretty hard it's not like stellar reasoning or anything but rit wasn't unlynchable...bresh maybe was. so there has to be a reason rit was chosen
Rsoul, I know for a fact that you and fedei are town, now I want you to explain to me how LS can be town. Like I want you to explain to me how some one can claim to get out of a lynch then unclaim and no one bats a fucking eye? I'm reopening my case against LS and will be posting my thoughts on him soon. Just to bring this up again:
On June 17 2015 07:14 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2015 07:11 NydusHerMain wrote:
Onegu your vt claim feels different this game. You scum? Am I scum for calling you scum? He can do a VT claim regardless of his alignment here was the time he did it as scum in XXX Night of Debauchery: Show nested quote +On March 10 2015 07:48 Onegu wrote:
I'm so tired of rolling town this is like 5 games in a row. I'm VT, I'm now confirmed town.
Koshi hasn't posted = confirmed scum
##Vote: Koshi
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Maybe he changed his meta? He was mafia last game he played with me and was caught first night, but half of the players in that game are in this game as well. I just don't like the fact that he does exactly what he preaches against.
On June 17 2015 07:31 LightningStrike wrote:Really anyone can just claim town you know -_-
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He literally pretty much town reads six of the players in this game in the beginning of the game, way before my list post. How can he read so man players that early unless he was scum? I had people bussing me for my list post, but no one challenges his?
On June 17 2015 08:45 LightningStrike wrote:Also my thoughts so far: Town: Bugs: Meta read says he's town he poking at others and having a big ego :O ritoky: Seemed to be posting freely which I usually associate with him being town just wish he had reads that weren't all null Nydus: Has decent content so far this game just wish he would post more stuff! KSC: Despite the fact I hate his attitude towards me and bugs I think he's town he actually prodding stuff and trying to direct the thread a little bit which I normally seen from him in past games. GB: He seems like his care free self this game although I can see how he would react to a insult from Bugs but otherwise I liking him a little bit Breshke: Didn't fall for a trap by GB and actually thinking critically this game. Null: Everyone else since not a lot posts by others from what I saw.
At least with my list post I was telling the truth in what I thought would be coin flips rather than just saying he's town, he's town, oh he's town too.
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On June 18 2015 13:25 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2015 13:18 Breshke wrote:On June 18 2015 13:09 LightningStrike wrote:On June 18 2015 12:34 Breshke wrote:On June 18 2015 11:26 LightningStrike wrote:On June 18 2015 10:53 Breshke wrote:
Also I really agree with bugs on the LS claim and also agree with rsoul that if he is doing it as scum his teammates have been telling him to do it which basically clear up an world of LS/KSC scum pair because he was the only one to pressure him hardcore i felt. Yay for associative reads.
Yet LS just claiming then not doing anything but defending himself with his blue claim feels really scummy. Can you do stuff man, if you are town I know you have it in you. People been pressuring non stop what else was I suppose to do -_- Does repeating "im blue" do anything? They know you claimed. Talk about other stuff Ya want to lynch Shockeyy with me? I want you to convince me why I should lynch shockey TLDR Case on Shockeyy: 1. His list post was rather shitty in terms of reasons 2. He been making excuses for his poor play 3. Some of posts seemed forced I will to vote Boxerfred if Shockeyy doesn't appear to be the lynch today but I think Shockeyy is worse than Boxer atm.
His case against me..... Which he's still trying to push me with no valid reasons or case against me. Breshke just got lynched this previous night and now look where we're at. Breshke was also onto LS in D1.
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Then what about KSC?
On June 18 2015 12:30 ShoCkeyy wrote:Just going to quote this one more time for everyone. Show nested quote +On June 18 2015 06:46 LightningStrike wrote:On June 18 2015 06:44 KelsierSC wrote:On June 18 2015 06:40 LightningStrike wrote:On June 18 2015 06:36 KelsierSC wrote:On June 18 2015 06:30 LightningStrike wrote:On June 18 2015 06:25 Mig wrote:Regarding LS, why are people instantly believing his claim? What exactly has LS done to show he is town other than the claim? Starts off with the instant attacking onegu for claiming vt, struck me as trying to make a big deal out of completely nothing. People claim VT all the time. Follows it up with buddying up to bugs just non stop, completely plausible thing for a fishy mafia to try and buddy up to the guy who caught him last game. When asked for his scum reads he is incredibly wishy washy + Show Spoiler +On June 18 2015 02:13 LightningStrike wrote:It's only a weak scumread right now and would like to talk to him more when he gets backs so I can confirm my read plus have others give me their thoughts and see if align with my own thoughts. Also I did have a somewhat recent game as town when I didn't have a scumread for the first 48 hours so therefore you logic isn't exactly a scum tell The game that I didn't have a scumread for the first 48 hours was Games of Thrones Mini recently if you want to check it out. And ends up saying he decided to vote for shockey because other people were on him (easy way to deflect blame if shockey flips town). Even his motto for handling rsoul is a straight copy from GB + Show Spoiler +On June 18 2015 02:43 LightningStrike wrote:
Also the best rule on rsoultin is that if she gets to LYLO you just lynch her because she is more likely scum when she hits LYLO from her recent games. LS do you actually have any original thoughts? Who besides shockey do you think is likely to be scum? I don't got anything original sorry Maybe Boxer his posts seemed pretty weird esp because it looked like he didn't really read the thread when he posted which more likely to come from scum. Also HF because here another rule about rsoultin: If one of HF or rsoultin is scum they don't get along which has been proven to be correct for the most part I townreading rsultin therefore he would be the scum by the rule. Also the LYLO rule about her is actually accurate she for the most part now being night killed at night 1 and night 2 as town so when she reaches LYLO she is scum. I willing to take the blame of town!shockeyy lynch if he flips town but I believe he will flip red. What happened to this On June 18 2015 01:31 LightningStrike wrote:
Honestly Boxerfred is new HF give it some time bro like Bugs said he only started playing Mafia recently :O Honestly I decided to reread Boxer's filter after Mig commented about Boxer's stuff about timing and failing to deliver but I think if Boxer is town he will clear it up soonish but if he scum he prob wont do anything. you decided to re-read after mig commented on it...yeh I guess he is the only one who brought it up?? you said boxer is newish so why is he scum not new now? when hf pinged him out you defended bf because he was a new player but what has changed, the posts are still the same. I didn't really read his filter when I defended him honestly. I only really read his filter when Mig brought up Boxer's stuff regarding timing and failing to do promised stuff.
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On June 23 2015 09:54 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2015 09:49 ShoCkeyy wrote:Then what about KSC? On June 18 2015 12:30 ShoCkeyy wrote:Just going to quote this one more time for everyone. On June 18 2015 06:46 LightningStrike wrote:On June 18 2015 06:44 KelsierSC wrote:On June 18 2015 06:40 LightningStrike wrote:On June 18 2015 06:36 KelsierSC wrote:On June 18 2015 06:30 LightningStrike wrote:On June 18 2015 06:25 Mig wrote:Regarding LS, why are people instantly believing his claim? What exactly has LS done to show he is town other than the claim? Starts off with the instant attacking onegu for claiming vt, struck me as trying to make a big deal out of completely nothing. People claim VT all the time. Follows it up with buddying up to bugs just non stop, completely plausible thing for a fishy mafia to try and buddy up to the guy who caught him last game. When asked for his scum reads he is incredibly wishy washy + Show Spoiler +On June 18 2015 02:13 LightningStrike wrote:It's only a weak scumread right now and would like to talk to him more when he gets backs so I can confirm my read plus have others give me their thoughts and see if align with my own thoughts. Also I did have a somewhat recent game as town when I didn't have a scumread for the first 48 hours so therefore you logic isn't exactly a scum tell The game that I didn't have a scumread for the first 48 hours was Games of Thrones Mini recently if you want to check it out. And ends up saying he decided to vote for shockey because other people were on him (easy way to deflect blame if shockey flips town). Even his motto for handling rsoul is a straight copy from GB + Show Spoiler +On June 18 2015 02:43 LightningStrike wrote:
Also the best rule on rsoultin is that if she gets to LYLO you just lynch her because she is more likely scum when she hits LYLO from her recent games. LS do you actually have any original thoughts? Who besides shockey do you think is likely to be scum? I don't got anything original sorry Maybe Boxer his posts seemed pretty weird esp because it looked like he didn't really read the thread when he posted which more likely to come from scum. Also HF because here another rule about rsoultin: If one of HF or rsoultin is scum they don't get along which has been proven to be correct for the most part I townreading rsultin therefore he would be the scum by the rule. Also the LYLO rule about her is actually accurate she for the most part now being night killed at night 1 and night 2 as town so when she reaches LYLO she is scum. I willing to take the blame of town!shockeyy lynch if he flips town but I believe he will flip red. What happened to this On June 18 2015 01:31 LightningStrike wrote:
Honestly Boxerfred is new HF give it some time bro like Bugs said he only started playing Mafia recently :O Honestly I decided to reread Boxer's filter after Mig commented about Boxer's stuff about timing and failing to deliver but I think if Boxer is town he will clear it up soonish but if he scum he prob wont do anything. you decided to re-read after mig commented on it...yeh I guess he is the only one who brought it up?? you said boxer is newish so why is he scum not new now? when hf pinged him out you defended bf because he was a new player but what has changed, the posts are still the same. I didn't really read his filter when I defended him honestly. I only really read his filter when Mig brought up Boxer's stuff regarding timing and failing to do promised stuff. ksc? he didn't have ls on his final scum list either he'd settled on gb being scum and you were heading his list with yama, fidei (conf town), mig and oneg like you can't say that these players are being killed for an ls scumread when 2/3 of them weren't reading ls scum the night they were killed. that's just not a solid argument. it's a little wifom to be discussing anyway but if these players were killed for their scumreads it wasn't for ls
But they did read him as scum at one point or another and wait here's a great post:
On June 20 2015 09:58 VayneAuthority wrote:
nightkill means pussies are playing mafia, pretty useful to know
Why kill off players that continue to read him as scum when Onegu and I are also being read as scum by other players? Why not just lynch the ones that he knew were town, when you said so yourself, I had a wagon on myself meaning I was able to get lynched at any point and scum knew it. Here's the better part:
On June 23 2015 04:43 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2015 07:08 Half the Sky wrote:Final Day 1 Vote Count boxerfred (8): Holyflare, GlowingBear, Breshke, rsoultin, LightningStrike, Fidei86, Damdred, NydusHerMain, Onegu, Mig, ShoCkeyy, GlowingBear GlowingBear (7): wherebugsgo, KelsierSC, VayneAuthority, LightningStrike, Holyflare, KelsierSC, boxerfred, ShoCkeyy, Breshke, KelsierSCShoCkeyy (1): NydusHerMain, NydusHerMain, LightningStrike, KelsierSC, KelsierSC, GlowingBear, ritoky LightningStrike (0): KelsierSC, Onegu, GlowingBear, KelsierSC, ShoCkeyy, KelsierSCHolyflare (0): boxerfredOnegu (0): NydusHerMain, NydusHerMainLohengramm (0): VayneAuthorityKelsierSC[/greem] (0): wherebugsgorsoultin (0): wherebugsgo, VayneAuthority, GlowingBear, Holyflarewherebugsgo (0): KelsierSCMig (0): wherebugsgoNot voted (1): [greenLohengrammSlipping from the ledge, boxerfred has fallen into the abyss.
Day 1 has ended. With the main wagons being town I don't think scum felt threaten at all since there were only really two wagons and they were both town(GB and BF) so scum most likely laid back and relaxed End of Day 1. Show nested quote +On June 22 2015 07:01 Half the Sky wrote:Final Day 2 Vote Count Lohengramm (10): Mig, GlowingBear, Damdred, VayneAuthority, rsoultin, ruXxar, Fidei86, Holyflare, Breshke, ShoCkeyy GlowingBear (2): VayneAuthority, Holyflare, Breshke, rsoultin, Lohengramm, Fidei86,VayneAuthority, ritoky ShoCkeyy (2): VayneAuthority, LightningStrike, NydusHerMain [green]LightningStrike (1): Onegu VayneAuthority (0): ruXxarHolyflare (0): GlowingBear, GlowingBear[green]Mig (0): GlowingBear, LightningStrike, DamdredOnegu (0): GlowingBearSlipping from the ledge, Lohengramm fell into the abyss.
Day 2 ends in at 22:00 GMT (+00:00). Same type of story here Day 2 with a single Town wagon on Yamato with no scum feeling threaten being lynched I think there is a at least 1 or 2 actives as scum and 1 or 2 lurkers being scum knowing the results of what we got so far(I colored in my slot because it's my Point of View).
He was threatened day 1, LIED, then it completely moved over to BF. Day 2, Reverses his lie and still doesn't feel threatened, only by few players.
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Well you asked me what my thoughts were and I just laid them out for you.
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On June 23 2015 10:19 Onegu wrote:
LS is scum with HF and HF is like damnit LS you better play this game and LS is all like OK. Or LS is scum with Rsoul and is all like need to impress her. (reasons why LS could be motivated to play harder as scum this game.)
BOOM HEADSHOT
Are you saying that rsoul isn't mason with fedei? Cause that's what I got from the damdred post.
On June 23 2015 10:15 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2015 10:12 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Well you asked me what my thoughts were and I just laid them out for you. okay say i'm wrong and you're right on ls are those the only thoughts you have? you came in when i said that the nks kinda point to you, you know...could be coincidental but that's a little convenient
Of course not, but those are my thoughts on LS and since you're backing the hell out of LS for a certain reasons, I just wanted to show you my thoughts on him first and of course it's convenient... I just find it odd that these players had a scum read on LS first, then scum read on me and then they ended up being the NK while LS is still trying to push me.
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Sorry to hear on LS's friend. Brb 5mins. I need to go get something from the wifes car, i'll answer when I'm back.
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On June 23 2015 10:24 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2015 10:21 ShoCkeyy wrote:On June 23 2015 10:19 Onegu wrote:
LS is scum with HF and HF is like damnit LS you better play this game and LS is all like OK. Or LS is scum with Rsoul and is all like need to impress her. (reasons why LS could be motivated to play harder as scum this game.)
BOOM HEADSHOT
Are you saying that rsoul isn't mason with fedei? Cause that's what I got from the damdred post. On June 23 2015 10:15 rsoultin wrote:On June 23 2015 10:12 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Well you asked me what my thoughts were and I just laid them out for you. okay say i'm wrong and you're right on ls are those the only thoughts you have? you came in when i said that the nks kinda point to you, you know...could be coincidental but that's a little convenient Of course not, but those are my thoughts on LS and since you're backing the hell out of LS for a certain reasons, I just wanted to show you my thoughts on him first and of course it's convenient... I just find it odd that these players had a scum read on LS first, then scum read on me and then they ended up being the NK while LS is still trying to push me. um why would mafia kill the two players who want to lynch you? lol if that's their purpose? that's counterintuitive
How is it counterintuitive if it could lead to another mislynch by painting me as scum and as LS said allowing mafia to just sit back relax and help push another mislynch.
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On June 23 2015 10:47 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2015 08:46 LightningStrike wrote:On June 19 2015 08:42 Breshke wrote:
LS I think it would be useful if you talked through the logic of unclaiming blue there
I also want you to hardclaim that you are VT. No going back on this. I am VT this game and I unclaimed because everyone questioned my claim I didn't really expect to much on and decided enough was enough. I prob just replace out because I just can't play this game as last Friday a friend of mine from High School died in a Car Accident and I only found out after I signed up. I thought that I can play but then with the shit happening this game I can't play it anymore and will commit Sudoku.
Did you even read it? It may not be fake, but why would he continue to play if he says he's going to replace out but never did? Maybe he saw his scum team winning and decided to just stick around? Idk... I think I gave enough reasons on LS now and on D1. I'm just going to move ahead and talk about my other scum reads.
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You're town and I feel like you're town, you've played more games with LS than I ever have, but his style of play is just ridiculously scummy to me. The first game I played against him, he got lynched so fast that I never really got to see him play. If an LS lynch wagon won't happen because people seem to think he's town, then I'll just look elsewhere, but like I said, it's scum play to me.
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My second scum read will come tomorrow, let's see if they even post at all. I'm going to go to bed, i've been up all day and haven't stopped working till now.
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I don't even know how to respond in the thread now lol I'm so late.
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+ Show Spoiler +On June 23 2015 13:45 NydusHerMain wrote:
Am I allowed to read this thread backwards without being scumread T.T ...
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On June 25 2015 11:53 GlowingBear wrote:
townies that mislynched me, know that I will send PM's to you each day, for 365 days after endgame, reminding you how bad you are. Mark my words. The North remembers.
I'm sorry GB, I help save you day 1 - but business called for day 3 :\
Next game!
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On June 25 2015 12:10 VayneAuthority wrote:
how did i know that clown wouldnt be able to leave the game without saying something incredibly stupid and game altering
On June 25 2015 12:36 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2015 12:03 ShoCkeyy wrote:
My second scum read will come tomorrow, let's see if they even post at all. I'm going to go to bed, i've been up all day and haven't stopped working till now. hey awol gonna enlighten us?
On June 25 2015 12:37 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2015 11:53 ShoCkeyy wrote:Quote + Show Spoiler +On June 23 2015 13:45 NydusHerMain wrote:
Am I allowed to read this thread backwards without being scumread T.T ... and the point is...?
I was being literal when I said business called. I was in a full day meeting which killed any time I had to actually post anything and will do the same today. This will be my last and final post until the weekend when I actually have time to read, but at this point, you guys are just terrible. If it wasn't for me day 1 lynched our DT would of been dead, the day I can't be around to help defend our DT you noobs go and lynch him.
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On June 25 2015 21:26 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2015 20:49 ShoCkeyy wrote:On June 25 2015 12:10 VayneAuthority wrote:
how did i know that clown wouldnt be able to leave the game without saying something incredibly stupid and game altering On June 25 2015 12:36 rsoultin wrote:On June 23 2015 12:03 ShoCkeyy wrote:
My second scum read will come tomorrow, let's see if they even post at all. I'm going to go to bed, i've been up all day and haven't stopped working till now. hey awol gonna enlighten us? On June 25 2015 12:37 rsoultin wrote:On June 25 2015 11:53 ShoCkeyy wrote:Quote + Show Spoiler +On June 23 2015 13:45 NydusHerMain wrote:
Am I allowed to read this thread backwards without being scumread T.T ... and the point is...? I was being literal when I said business called. I was in a full day meeting which killed any time I had to actually post anything and will do the same today. This will be my last and final post until the weekend when I actually have time to read, but at this point, you guys are just terrible. If it wasn't for me day 1 lynched our DT would of been dead, the day I can't be around to help defend our DT you noobs go and lynch him. No. You put this attitude away. I asked who your second scumread WAS which you should still know. I asked the point of quoting that post which you should be fine with explaining. You do not get to be a dick to the one player trying to get mig lynched at eod when you.could have saved gb if you'd been here or even you know actually voted. Answer please while I practice.restraint and don't curse.you out for the.high and mighty attitude from someone who couldn't even be.fucked to VOTE
Real life over games sorry. I didn't realize time and noticed GB got lynched when I did realize, I couldn't help, it already happened and how was I a dick to GB? I don't get it.
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##vote VayneAuthority
Just got caught up with thread, your filter is just riddled with scum and you just gave yourself away. Thanks for making it easier!
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On June 27 2015 13:26 NydusHerMain wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2015 12:28 ShoCkeyy wrote:
##vote VayneAuthority
Just got caught up with thread, your filter is just riddled with scum and you just gave yourself away. Thanks for making it easier! did you miss mig?
I didn't, but I didn't really look into it until now. I was just basing myself off my earlier scum reads. Either way, I re-read mig's filter and yea.
##unvote
##vote mig
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On June 27 2015 23:13 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2015 23:05 ruXxar wrote:
Damdred I want to ask you:
What specifically about Shockey don't you like?
Could you give me a couple sentences to understand a bit how you're thinking?
I want your own take on it.
Besides shockey, who are you suspicious off? Missed the last question Would have to be a mix of va, you, hf, oneg. Its not that I don't totally disbelieve va claim, I don't want to th I non k about balance yet though, but it's possible,he's fake claiming with mig but Idk yet. Hf is sorta a dick this game coups be scum...but red check meh Idk. Oneg is oneg
My scumreads are between you and Onegu. You talk about me being inactive, but you yourself were inactive this whole game to or do you seem to forget? LS even said it, this has been my most active game in the whole database, I want you to tell me why I can be scum?
Your previous scum games are so similar to this game too.
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You also never answered my question which clearly shows you're not reading thread.
On June 23 2015 02:26 ShoCkeyy wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2015 10:02 Damdred wrote:
So...
All a sudden my gut says shockey is town...it's for bassist reasons though, so I might ! have to hedge my bets like palmar Show nested quote +On June 22 2015 07:06 Damdred wrote:
I still think LS is town, I read his filter or scanned it and it looks like town LS.
I'd probably be ok with Shockey maybe oneg I need to read rux What's your reasoning for flipping your read on me?
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On June 27 2015 23:10 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2015 23:05 ruXxar wrote:
Damdred I want to ask you:
What specifically about Shockey don't you like?
Could you give me a couple sentences to understand a bit how you're thinking?
I want your own take on it.
Besides shockey, who are you suspicious off? General lack of care is the first thing that bugs me,about him. Besides that point during the tomato lynch he was basically completely ark just had vague suspicions of him in his filter. Jumps on to make sure nothing shenanigans happens. Without helping the thread out. To go back a bit when he was also starting to get scum read instead of trying to not be he kept giving excuses instead of reads like people were asking. No real scum reads anymore it feels like
This also sounds like yourself - you think I lack any kind of care? I helped save our DT Day 1 because I knew he was town. But you, you were quick to jump on any lynch train that you knew was town with out giving any kind of reason. Why did you vote for Boxer and Lohen? Your filter doesn't say anything about them. Where was your vote for Day 3? My excuses were valid.
You also mention my reads, but you only gave a few reads once.
On June 17 2015 09:27 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2015 09:24 NydusHerMain wrote:
Damdred have you gave any reasoning for any of your reads yet other than meta? You did a hell of a lot of it last game. Actually meta is a huge part of my game in the early goings as well as tone etc., Rsoultin is because she's my waifu that's acting like a pita. I've answered about ls I believe Kel is his attitude and his wanting to dig into people. Gb because of the wanting to give reads and get people involved. Rit is pure meta and I'd rather never explain You are meta+content at this point compared to last game.
Notice how those town are now all dead. You can't say "meta" here. All your town reads are gone. How did you know they were all town unless you were mafia?
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On June 28 2015 00:28 Damdred wrote:
Sorta like that news game you mislynch me in as you were scum?
Had scum read d1 on shockey and fid. Rs hard claims mason with fid I back off, shock was enough of a dick,for me to,turn that around.
D2 scum read on mig push mig. Gb claims green I back off.
Not here d3
Shows some scum reads today
What?
On June 17 2015 10:02 Damdred wrote:
So...
All a sudden my gut says shockey is town...it's for bassist reasons though, so I might ! have to hedge my bets like palmar
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Of course not, he hasn't had any this game. He's just spammed up the thread with nonsense.
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On June 28 2015 01:17 Damdred wrote:
Meh, I know I'm overly defensive for a few reasons. I know the s um reads on me are partially deserved even though activity isn't an indicator for me.
And that's frustrating.
And your right I'm not taking into account that bugs could,of,been carrying to you etc.
Lots of possibilities in that.
And besides that,
I,had a decent tone read and,content read on nhm early but he's kinda fallen off of,a cliff which is disappointing. So have to look back at that.
Va is claimed jk. I don't think off the top my head that jk mason and cop is to strong at this,juncture.
Rux still,could be scum,but he is pressuring and trying to,figure out the game at this,juncture which is a plus.
Shockey to an extent is trying to,throw whatever mud he can on anyone. Ie his response to, ls.
Ls I still think is town.
Mig is scum.
Got lot more people though to read. Hf is interesting, Idk
Are you smoking? I've been slinging mud at LS since the get go and will do so till he realizes that he doesn't really post anything useful. I don't care if he's town or not, but he has over 21 pages in his filter and almost all of his posts are just meh. He's either defending himself or repeating everything everyone else has said. All that does is spam up the thread and make it harder to find actual scum. I've been saying this since the get go and it's quite annoying. The biggest filter theory every one seems to abide by is completely null imo and doesn't help at all. Especially when you're trying to re-read the thread.
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Ok HF, Damdred, VA anybody else other than Onegu, what are your thoughts on Onegu's play of showing up right before day lynch posting stuff then disappearing until the next day lynch?
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Damdred, did you read my thoughts on LS? He's either playing dumb or he's mafia pushing mafia's agenda, simple as that. I don't get his play and all he's done is confuse the town worse and worse everyday. First the fake claim, then the vote on GB when rsoul was clearly saying he was town. I thought LS would obviously follow rsoul but didn't.
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And onegu's play this game is just weird. He's usually a lot more focused, even though he posts every once in a while, he usually always has good posts. I just find it odd that this isn't his normal play at all and that he only shows up a few times right before day lynches and has gotten this far with out any kind of suspicions.
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At this point, I can say yes. It's very possible this late into the game especially with how both of them have been playing. I feel like both of them have no motive to actually help the town win.
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On June 29 2015 04:50 Damdred wrote:
Holyflare (2): rsoultin, GlowingBear, LightningStrike, Onegu, ruXxar, Fidei86, NydusHerMain
GlowingBear (5): VayneAuthority, Mig, Holyflare, LightningStrike, Onegu
Mig (3): ruXxar, rsoultin, Fidei86
This vote isn't as telling as I thought it could potentially be.
GB is AFK on his red check of HF here, myself and shockey are both non voters. So the votes not going to be as useful as I hoped.
And I keep coming back to HF, his vote here is just self preservation at its finest and one side of the coin is that he can talk himself out of a lynch as scum and mig can't. So theres that to hrmmmm.
This is a difficult game, Oneg and LS votes bug me a lot
It looks really good for ruxxar a little bit voting on now confirmed scum mig
It does bug me a lot, Onegu the whole fucking game pushing LS but can partner up with LS to help vote off confirmed DT? Like wtf?
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This is something I just noticed....
On June 18 2015 03:54 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2015 03:54 KelsierSC wrote:
I'm going to leave this for now but I think i've made it quite clear that LS is scum and you should be voting for him if you're town.
I not I blue :O
On June 18 2015 03:55 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2015 03:54 LightningStrike wrote:On June 18 2015 03:54 KelsierSC wrote:
I'm going to leave this for now but I think i've made it quite clear that LS is scum and you should be voting for him if you're town.
I not scum I blue :O
Why the fuck would he change his own quote?
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Well he some how knows there's a framer in the game, can it possible that mafia framed themselves to look green for DT checks?
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On June 29 2015 05:12 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On June 29 2015 05:10 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Well he some how knows there's a framer in the game, can it possible that mafia framed themselves to look green for DT checks? I don't know but if there is one they woulda framed me..... Don't you remember the situation Night 1 when I was scumread the by the majority of the game? Ya if they had a Framer they woulda framed me to get a easy mislynch if my tinfoil hat theory is correct.
You're turning around what I just said.
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On June 29 2015 05:14 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On June 29 2015 05:13 ShoCkeyy wrote:On June 29 2015 05:12 LightningStrike wrote:On June 29 2015 05:10 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Well he some how knows there's a framer in the game, can it possible that mafia framed themselves to look green for DT checks? I don't know but if there is one they woulda framed me..... Don't you remember the situation Night 1 when I was scumread the by the majority of the game? Ya if they had a Framer they woulda framed me to get a easy mislynch if my tinfoil hat theory is correct. You're turning around what I just said. I already said my theory you idiot.
Why are you getting mad? Did I catch scum? Oh boy, it's getting exciting now.
On June 24 2015 01:00 GlowingBear wrote:
Onegu, of course LS could be framed or godfather
But I don't think LS would unclaim in that scenario because the unclaim is really coming from someone afraid of being redchecked
Unless you believe he intentionally created all this scenario exactly to be cop checked. Which is possible, but WIFOM.
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On June 29 2015 05:16 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On June 29 2015 04:49 ShoCkeyy wrote:
At this point, I can say yes. It's very possible this late into the game especially with how both of them have been playing. I feel like both of them have no motive to actually help the town win. I don't see any evidence for them being mafia together. How do you explain Onegu tunneling LS all game?
How do you explain both of them helping lynch GB off?
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Problem is, I can't explain it, my only thought is that Onegu knew LS is mafia because they're on the same team and he knew he would just waste votes on him from the get go but that's complete theory at this point. I said it's possible, but I've definitely have been scum reading LS the whole game. And now that we're this far into the game and reading through GB's filter and LS's filter it just makes sense to me. I want to see everyone else's thoughts though.
What are your thoughts on what I brought up against LS and his reaction to it?
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Damdred:
Even GB himself said it's possible and when Gb was up for lynch LS jumped on the opportunity even though rsoul said not to? I thought LS and rsoul were buddy buddies why did he do it? It's a crazy theory, but it's completely fucking possible at this point.
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Sheep you this game and help vote off DT? GJ, nice one
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On June 29 2015 05:54 Damdred wrote:
All of these people trying to convince me now and talking to me is scary q.q just 10-20 hours ago iw as on everyones scum radar
From a town pov anybody can be mafia at this point, but I had to question you to see your response. Now that we're getting close to either winning this or losing, I see your actually committed to figuring out who's mafia and so am I. Do you think LS is?
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VA your thoughts on LS and my latest push against him once again?
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On June 30 2015 11:51 Damdred wrote:
oh my god I've been saying that for awhile now O_o....
Shockey isn't doing shit, oneg isn't doing shit.
LS isn't doing shit either which bothers me.
HF is doing the most, which granted isn't as alignment indicative but like I've been saying for the past 24 hours there are other mafia besides hf I you think hf is one.
Ruxars last post just feels fake btw
Do you think I've done more than LS and Onegu? Or just as much as them? Or less? Cause I think I've done a better fucking job than both of them this whole game, even with LS huge terrible filter and he's suppose to be "town"....
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On June 30 2015 22:04 ruXxar wrote:This is my analysis of Shockey's vote switching day 1: Vote switching day 1+ Show Spoiler +Ok, so this makes no sense at all to me: Shockey is pushing LS early day 1 due to his blue claim. Suddenly he wants to lynch rsoultin, but isn't scumreading rsoultin. On June 18 2015 14:21 ShoCkeyy wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2015 14:15 rsoultin wrote:
i'm not asking why you're scumreading lightningstrike shockey
i'm asking you why he is your top scumread...though perhaps the better way to phrase it is if he suddenly dropped dead, who else are you willing to lynch?
your only purpose for quoting those was to say nhm was town...multiple times? okay i guess lol >< In all honesty? You, but you still haven't given me a valid reason to call you scum and my current scum radar is going off on LS. And if you read my post you would see why he's my top scum read. And as mentioned I haven't fully looked into boxerfred yet. I've only read what holyflare has mentioned about him. Then he makes his list post, notice the people not on it: On June 19 2015 01:50 ShoCkeyy wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2015 14:27 ShoCkeyy wrote:On June 18 2015 14:22 ritoky wrote:On June 18 2015 14:21 ShoCkeyy wrote:On June 18 2015 14:15 rsoultin wrote:
i'm not asking why you're scumreading lightningstrike shockey
i'm asking you why he is your top scumread...though perhaps the better way to phrase it is if he suddenly dropped dead, who else are you willing to lynch?
your only purpose for quoting those was to say nhm was town...multiple times? okay i guess lol >< In all honesty? You, but you still haven't given me a valid reason to call you scum and my current scum radar is going off on LS. And if you read my post you would see why he's my top scum read. And as mentioned I haven't fully looked into boxerfred yet. I've only read what holyflare has mentioned about him. that's cool. you once made a terrible list post a couple hours into the day and it was terrible. can you do that again but make it less terrible this time? thanks. I will post my list in the morning. Going to let the posts rack up a bit more. I want to see others thoughts before I finalize it for day 1. town: nhm - nhm's posting just reads town motivated, but he probably will drop to town lean due to his inactivity. ritoky - I like your posting style from the start, it probably rubs off the wrong way to certain people, but I found it easy to be able to communicate with you town lean: breshke - He really comes off as my highest town lean atm, his posting is like the game before and he was town with me. damdred - my reasons before. rsoul - her post below put her into the town lean last night. Still wary because she talks about LS as if he can't be scum. scum lean: LS - Read filter, I gave quite a few good points on him. bugs - His case will come afterwards, but his protection of LS just seems weird + Show Spoiler +On June 18 2015 22:55 wherebugsgo wrote:
I see I have been ninjaed.
Re: LS, I didn't defend LS prior to the claim because I myself was unsure of his alignment at that point. To me he seemed townish but my reasons were not very well qualified and it was mostly on the basis of him not acting in a very similar way to how he did in the last game where he was scum and we got him killed day 1. Indeed here his defense is a lot more passioned whereas in the previous game and in all the other scum games I read in which he got lynched he more or less rolled over and died.
The claim however pretty much instantly erased any doubts I had and that's when I chose to defend him because I knee jubjubs and scum would jump all over that shit to call him scum. The two worst responses IMO were yours and GB, and to a lesser extent Onegu whose only listed reason for voting was policy. IMO people who do not view that claim as a townish thing to do are either mafia or bad, and I really prefer not to assume someone is bad town when they have demonstrated some capability of thinking analytically.
GB's reaction to the claim was really terrible. He flipped his read on LS completely which is not what I would expect town to do simply on the basis of a claim. It also appeared very opportunistic because as soon as I showed resistance he backed off, and curiously tried to get my opinion on another low-hanging-fruit of a player, VA.
What's interesting to me here is that the more that I think on kt and write it out the more I find GB scummy than anyone else. Anyone else down to kill him today? I'm down, what's weird is that you talk about GB being weird for jumping off the LS train, but you're pretty much also doing the same thing, but with a lot more content to it... lohen - based on thread and points brought up on him. He's new to the game, but still hasn't really posted much... Show nested quote +On June 18 2015 14:37 ritoky wrote:On June 18 2015 14:33 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Alright chops 4, btw what did you think of my push against LS and his responses to me? Also thoughts on rsoul? I agree with your points but not necessarily your conclusion. Because you seem to not regard the fact that he has done stupid claim shit like this as town on day 1 under no lynch pressure before. Your points aren't wrong, those are anti-town things and his responses to you are bleh at best. I learned from a recent Obs game that rsoul is an easy read for me in the late game. The problem is she shoots me as scum early in games and I shoot her as scum early in games so neither one of us ever gets there is we are opposing alignments. She is town for now cuz she seems interested in solving the game; will re-evaluate later. Except I expect after my outburst I am gonna get the HF treatment tonight. But what makes it the same as his previous claims? And I mentioned to him that it's easy to change meta, what are your thoughts on that? Show nested quote +On June 18 2015 14:40 GlowingBear wrote:On June 18 2015 14:38 ShoCkeyy wrote:
GB give me your real thoughts on myself and LS, also what did you think of my push against LS? you were one of the few that I quoted. I don't remember it. I'll need to read your filter again. I think you're scum based on imperfect meta. I remember being on your skin last game and you kept being very... how could I say... cool headed? And I'm not actually seeing this here. LS has 8 pages of filter and I'm not lynching anyone like that day1 Did you ever read my filter? And why do you base games on largest filters? I don't get it, I have a small filter and I'm pro town. How does a large filter benefit town when trying to make cases on scum? Show nested quote +On June 18 2015 14:32 rsoultin wrote:On June 18 2015 14:21 ShoCkeyy wrote:On June 18 2015 14:15 rsoultin wrote:
i'm not asking why you're scumreading lightningstrike shockey
i'm asking you why he is your top scumread...though perhaps the better way to phrase it is if he suddenly dropped dead, who else are you willing to lynch?
your only purpose for quoting those was to say nhm was town...multiple times? okay i guess lol >< In all honesty? You, but you still haven't given me a valid reason to call you scum and my current scum radar is going off on LS. And if you read my post you would see why he's my top scum read. And as mentioned I haven't fully looked into boxerfred yet. I've only read what holyflare has mentioned about him. oh i actually thought this was directed at rit lol >< dude, you're going to have to get over the fact that i'm ridiculously involved in threads. there's a method to the madness, and maybe it's not the best for town i'll admit but it somehow works best for me and regardless scum kills me frequently enough that apparently they don't like it either not really gonna change just cause people disapprove (especially since i doubt i can xP)if you read my filter, really read it, you will find what everyone finds and namely that is there's a ton more content than meets the eye if all you've got is me and ls that's bad for you cause you're probably not lynching scum lol Bolded the necessary points so you can start understanding. His next post is this: On June 19 2015 02:04 ShoCkeyy wrote:
BF's is fucking weird, I'll admit that. He keeps saying he'll be back, he's going to give reads, but nothing comes out other than attacking Holyflare, but it's not enough to make me change my mind on my LS push.
GB is still null for me, still hasn't read my filter and given me a response, if it keeps going ignored, he's just going to keep dropping into my scum lean. Followed up by these 2: On June 19 2015 05:42 ShoCkeyy wrote:
GB can you stop completely ignoring my questions and stop ignoring the read I asked to do of me? And don't tell me it's because I have a small filter (wtf kind of logic is that). Tell me why I shouldn't vote for you? On June 19 2015 06:23 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Ok this is twice I've been ignored. Just going to park my vote here until 10mins before lynch time. Let's see what happens.
##unvote
##vote GlowingBear So instead of actually pursuing the scumreads on his list. He ended up voting on GB for what? Being ignored? But wait, we're not done yet: On a whim, he suddenly switches to Boxerfred! Why? On June 19 2015 06:55 ShoCkeyy wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2015 06:53 KelsierSC wrote:
you asked him to read your filter..well he has been pretty fucking busy with other people
you have had this weird fake rage reaction like "well you are ignoring me so im going to pressure vote you..." in a situation that gets him lynched...it makes no fucking sense. Alright fine, let's see how this goes. ##unvote
##vote Boxerfred So wait, why exactly did you switch to BF? Nowhere do you mention these reasons before the flip. It's easy to make up facts after hand to support your actions. On June 19 2015 09:26 ShoCkeyy wrote:Sorry guys, was driving/eating dinner, going to catch up. I saw BF flipped town. So brings me back to this: Show nested quote +On June 19 2015 06:27 KelsierSC wrote:On June 19 2015 06:23 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Ok this is twice I've been ignored. Just going to park my vote here until 10mins before lynch time. Let's see what happens.
##unvote
##vote GlowingBear like this is really fucking weird You bitch about me switching to GB, then now bitch about me switching off, which one did you want? I switched to GB due to reasons mentioned. I would of stayed there, but BF's filter was scummy too. BF disappears before vote ended while GB kept defending himself, which made me second guess the vote and I switched to BF. So wait, the reason you ACTUALLY switched to BF was because you believed in your "scumread" GB's reasons? On June 20 2015 01:23 ShoCkeyy wrote:Just wanted to throw this out there, GB you've been saying I'm scum since the beginning in like in every game we have played together, you constantly attack me just cause. You don't even have a real reason as to why I am scum this game, you just say I am. Now I want you to think about the logic behind my vote switch. You say that the game is based on the biggest filter which I repeatedly asked you to give me a good explanation here and quite multiple times. "Did you ever read my filter? And why do you base games on largest filters? I don't get it, I have a small filter and I'm pro town. How does a large filter benefit town when trying to make cases on scum?"I need you to realize, I had the voting power to either lynch you or BF. I lynched BF because I based my response out of your stupid thought of having the biggest filter to not lynch D1 and his slight scum posts but what happened? We lynched a town, if you were pro town, why did you switch to me, the "new" lynch train? Why didn't you just stay on LS or switch to BF from the get go? Why were you second guessing who to vote? As soon as I voted you, you instantly switched to me, then I switch off you switched off. On June 21 2015 00:52 ShoCkeyy wrote:Show nested quote +On June 21 2015 00:46 Holyflare wrote:
plz just do this again in like a small bullet pointed summary
why did you think gb was town, more so than bf?
1) I associated his way of playing the game which is basing it on the biggest filter - didn't work out too well On June 21 2015 00:58 ShoCkeyy wrote:Show nested quote +On June 21 2015 00:54 Holyflare wrote:
what do you mean in point 1? don't quite understand it, you didn't think he was mafia because he had a big filter? is that the only reason? No, I never said I didn't think he was mafia when I vote switched. I gave him the benefit of the doubt due to meta. He himself claims that he doesn't like lynching the biggest filters on D1. So I tried what he normally does and it didn't work out well... Seems like an easy way to throw away responsibility for your voting. From the adamant way you didn't believe that the longest filter meant anything, I don't see why you would actually use that reason for switching your vote. On June 17 2015 22:51 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Alright going to try and get this going here. I don't get why people care so much about activity? It's been known since this forum even started that people lurk and will always lurk. I can't be posting all day and night as some others here cause I own four businesses + consult major businesses. I use mafia as a past time and can post when I have free time. If you like my activity great, if you don't sucks for you. At least I try and help the town win rather than post non-sense and spam up the thread On June 17 2015 23:12 ShoCkeyy wrote:
You call that spam, but people say "I don't like shockeyy's activity". Well that's why my activity sucks in every game I play. Then you call that spam? But fail to look at people like rsoul, who already have 7+ pages of filter and most of it is crap. To me that seems like they're trying to hide their mistakes with constant posting. Just read the fight between her and wbg. She completely ignores him until the lynch train happened. It just seems odd. On June 19 2015 02:10 ShoCkeyy wrote:
What? Why? I based my day 1 on whole thread and the interactions that happen between players. How can you see what's going on if you're only doing the biggest filters. On June 18 2015 13:26 ShoCkeyy wrote:This is why you have the biggest filter in the game. You just spam bullshit. Oh, so it was not because you were being ignored? Okay... On June 21 2015 06:09 ShoCkeyy wrote:Show nested quote +On June 21 2015 02:38 GlowingBear wrote:
I woke up
Shockey, answer me before I go diving: when did the big filter thing crossed your mind? When I voted for you which was the reason for me coming back 10mins before vote ended to change my vote. I wanted to see how you handled the pressure vs how Boxerfred did, boxer didn't come back and I gave you the benefit of the doubt due to D1 big filter that you go by, he also had scummier posts in my eyes. His vote switching day 1 seems all over place. He doesn't stick to 1 story and tries to push the blame onto GB by saying he followed GB's "stupid idea" of not voting for the longest filter. Besides, you didn't even believe in that argument for all of day 1?! How can you come back after the vote and claim that you actually believed in it. Every time you get asked about it, you change your story. I can't see a clear line of thinking from A to B to C. It's such a defensive and "cover all my bases" stance, that It strengthens my scumread on shockey. And here's the best part, I almost can't believe this: Show nested quote +On June 25 2015 11:57 ShoCkeyy wrote:On June 25 2015 11:53 GlowingBear wrote:
townies that mislynched me, know that I will send PM's to you each day, for 365 days after endgame, reminding you how bad you are. Mark my words. The North remembers. I'm sorry GB, I help save you day 1 - but business called for day 3 :\ Next game! Show nested quote +On June 25 2015 20:49 ShoCkeyy wrote:
I was being literal when I said business called. I was in a full day meeting which killed any time I had to actually post anything and will do the same today. This will be my last and final post until the weekend when I actually have time to read, but at this point, you guys are just terrible. If it wasn't for me day 1 lynched our DT would of been dead, the day I can't be around to help defend our DT you noobs go and lynch him. Yeah.. no. I want this guy dead too.
It's easy to paint some one as mafia, but this is the best I've ever played as town and you're just shitting all over my game.
Here let me show you:
On June 23 2015 10:49 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2015 10:01 ruXxar wrote:
Something I noticed is that it's easy to put out analysis when you don't want to participate in the game, afraid of outing yourself.
I mean analysis is basically just selecting quotes from people, putting them in order and trying to read between the lines.
Not much chance of slipping up there as mafia.
It's much harder if you actually engange actively in conversation and get riled up.
[...] sorry ruxx ^^; this feels kinda dirty but it's the game that just finished...so it is what it is
Bam, you're now mafia at least in Rsoul's eyes and Rsoul if you're reading this, please post less... It made it very hard to find this quote...
But you know I why don't think your mafia? Cause of this:
On June 25 2015 06:48 VayneAuthority wrote:
Btw, ruxxar is confirmed town since I saved bugs/his slot n1
I'm not going to keep defending myself when I know I'm town and if I get mislynched it's game over. I rather continue looking for scum and put out better thoughts, which I have been doing - better than our current lurkers, cough onegu cough.
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Also you need to realize, if I was mafia, why would I save GB day one if I was mafia? He was able to figure out that Mig was mafia for day 4 lynch? Like please use logic. GB even knew I was town and that's cause we've played three games in a row already, he obviously knows my meta already - where LS keeps trying to push my lynch with no reasons behind it and also voted for GB even though Rsoul said not to. LS even says he can't figure out my meta, but it's obvious that I'm town.
Now let's look at Onegu who pushed LS up until Day 4.
On June 30 2015 15:38 Onegu wrote:Show nested quote +On June 30 2015 03:10 Damdred wrote:
Its a really tough game honestly, I'm like 99.9% sure that LS is town in this situation and I sort of hope hes scum just so I can be proud of him changing his meta in a way I didn't think he could.
FId is confirmed town
I know i'm town obviously.
This leaves me in a world where all I have to do is find town in Onegu, Shockey, HF, NHM and Rux. There are two towns and three mafia in this group.
Content wise HF could look ok, red check withstanding I still want some more of his thoughts around the GB lynch.
Oneg has 0 real content voted with his mafia read in lynching GB which was headed by confirmed mafia mig.
Shockey is sort of weird.
Rux could of carried a shot and got blocked or been shot, he seem to be trying to solve the game though that is true, but isn't really evolving his reads in a way.
Its a sort of a hard game at thi sjuncture though Yeah and I voted with my tunneled mafia read you in Boring. So I have found the scum team. RuXxar, Shockky, Damdred. I think I get lynched now though for dropping my LS scum read...
He's obviously scum, he's pointing out obvious town is the scum team, like what kind of shit is that?
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On July 01 2015 00:23 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On July 01 2015 00:03 ShoCkeyy wrote:Also you need to realize, if I was mafia, why would I save GB day one if I was mafia? He was able to figure out that Mig was mafia for day 4 lynch? Like please use logic. GB even knew I was town and that's cause we've played three games in a row already, he obviously knows my meta already - where LS keeps trying to push my lynch with no reasons behind it and also voted for GB even though Rsoul said not to. LS even says he can't figure out my meta, but it's obvious that I'm town. Now let's look at Onegu who pushed LS up until Day 4. On June 30 2015 15:38 Onegu wrote:On June 30 2015 03:10 Damdred wrote:
Its a really tough game honestly, I'm like 99.9% sure that LS is town in this situation and I sort of hope hes scum just so I can be proud of him changing his meta in a way I didn't think he could.
FId is confirmed town
I know i'm town obviously.
This leaves me in a world where all I have to do is find town in Onegu, Shockey, HF, NHM and Rux. There are two towns and three mafia in this group.
Content wise HF could look ok, red check withstanding I still want some more of his thoughts around the GB lynch.
Oneg has 0 real content voted with his mafia read in lynching GB which was headed by confirmed mafia mig.
Shockey is sort of weird.
Rux could of carried a shot and got blocked or been shot, he seem to be trying to solve the game though that is true, but isn't really evolving his reads in a way.
Its a sort of a hard game at thi sjuncture though Yeah and I voted with my tunneled mafia read you in Boring. So I have found the scum team. RuXxar, Shockky, Damdred. I think I get lynched now though for dropping my LS scum read... He's obviously scum, he's pointing out obvious town is the scum team, like what kind of shit is that? I don't believe for one second that you saved GB because you believed he was town. Like, you only switched your vote when people actually called you out for voting on him. And you give like 3 different reasons for switching your votes. Some of them you didn't even believe in, you just went along with them because "you wanted to try it out". Then you shift the blame away from yourself because hey "It was GB's stupid idea, not mine!" And then you have the gall to show up and lecture us because you "saved" GB, as if you were fighting for his innocence day 1? Give me a break. You're just trying to make yourself look good by taking credit in retrospect.
I actually believed GB was more town than Boxerfred at that moment, what's the problem? I helped save our DT and you're trying to call me out as scum because of it? Like seriously? And I wasn't fighting for it day 1, I actually contributed to reasons why he could be scum, but he helped me make the decision much easier when he continuously defended himself and I took into consideration his POV of the biggest filter. Multiple reasons helped me decide why not to lynch GB, if you're not happy with that, then I don't know what else to tell you.
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Lol, good job on losing the game. You're willing to lynch some one that has actually been active in the game and scum hunting than some one that is just saying almost nothing or even trying to defend himself (onegu).
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And on top of it, you're sheeping some one who clearly said they couldn't even read my meta and all has done is confused town from the get go. Like no one is this game has any kind of logic.
Check my previous town game and you'll see how much alike it is. If I get lynched this is seriously my last game, because people on these forums have no common sense and always seem to lynch the wrong people. I also don't get why people won't follow the DT's read on me which is clearly town.
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I already gave you my top two scum reads and great reasons why they should be lynched, how ever NO ONE has given a real reason as to why I should be lynched.
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On July 01 2015 02:53 Onegu wrote:Show nested quote +On July 01 2015 02:50 Holyflare wrote:On July 01 2015 02:49 Fidei86 wrote:
Onegu played exactly the same way as this in HG and he was town then too. no he plays like that every game and you don't really know what makes the difference between town onegu or mafia onegu Yeah mafia Onegu plays more.
If this were the case, then how the fuck am I mafia? And what about LS?
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On July 01 2015 03:02 Onegu wrote:Show nested quote +On July 01 2015 02:50 Holyflare wrote:On July 01 2015 02:49 Fidei86 wrote:
Onegu played exactly the same way as this in HG and he was town then too. no he plays like that every game and you don't really know what makes the difference between town onegu or mafia onegu Stop being bad. Lynch RuXxar or Shockky today. I am playing now so suck it. Also why does scum onegu not push you today? Like HF can never read me. Since we were in newbies together. @RuXxar Why do I need to defend myself at this point we are still 4 hours from lynch and I am not dieing. And like your only reason for scum reading me is I am not doing anything... Well guess what I am now so your arguement is void. Damdred is being dumb/mafia because he knows for a fact I am willing to vote with my tunneled scum read as town. Also ruXxar the point about you making people look worse, you did it with VA and me right as you came in the game. Shockky because onegu rule. And also knowing my meta and thinking this is my scum play.
Lol onegu rule and b/s I don't know your meta, but you've obviously have done nothing this game. Even when we were mafia together in my first return game, you did more, you did more in my town game. In this game, you've pretty much have done nothing. There's a huge difference in how you've been playing and you should see the same with me, but you just call me mafia because you're mafia and I've outed you. I've given MANY reasons how you can be mafia and all you can say is "onegu rule".
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On July 01 2015 03:13 Onegu wrote:Show nested quote +On July 01 2015 03:12 ShoCkeyy wrote:On July 01 2015 03:02 Onegu wrote:On July 01 2015 02:50 Holyflare wrote:On July 01 2015 02:49 Fidei86 wrote:
Onegu played exactly the same way as this in HG and he was town then too. no he plays like that every game and you don't really know what makes the difference between town onegu or mafia onegu Stop being bad. Lynch RuXxar or Shockky today. I am playing now so suck it. Also why does scum onegu not push you today? Like HF can never read me. Since we were in newbies together. @RuXxar Why do I need to defend myself at this point we are still 4 hours from lynch and I am not dieing. And like your only reason for scum reading me is I am not doing anything... Well guess what I am now so your arguement is void. Damdred is being dumb/mafia because he knows for a fact I am willing to vote with my tunneled scum read as town. Also ruXxar the point about you making people look worse, you did it with VA and me right as you came in the game. Shockky because onegu rule. And also knowing my meta and thinking this is my scum play. Lol onegu rule and b/s I don't know your meta, but you've obviously have done nothing this game. Even when we were mafia together in my first return game, you did more, you did more in my town game. In this game, you've pretty much have done nothing. There's a huge difference in how you've been playing and you should see the same with me, but you just call me mafia because you're mafia and I've outed you. I've given MANY reasons how you can be mafia and all you can say is "onegu rule". Can you honestly say this game is like the game we were scum together in or the game we were town together in?
You played way better when we were town together, I also want you to answer the same question.
Can you honestly say this game is like the game we were scum together in or the game we were town together in?
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LS if you're not mafia, then why vote for me? You still haven't given a good reason why to vote for me? All you're doing is voting for a town. You vote for me and it's an auto lose. Why not vote for obvious mafia unless you're mafia too?
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On July 01 2015 04:38 Fidei86 wrote:
As I've said, I think that a confirmed red check is vastly more reliable than any of the other points people are making or have made so far this game. And no, you constantly posting that you're town does not make you town. Other people reading you town does not make you town. I can't say that any other way. I'd much rather lose the game on the off chance you are extremely unlucky than because we basically picked another vote out of the air.
I think Shockkey is very likely scum. He has spent basically his entire filter ripping on LS and defending himself. Highly unconvincing. Then again, that could just be how he plays. But if people won't lynch you, I'll have to follow my dead teacher and mentor in going on Shockey.
You haven't read LS's filter then, all he talks about the whole game is that I'm scum but gives no GOOOD reason why I'm scum. Here this was his best response as to why I'm scum:
On June 18 2015 13:25 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2015 13:18 Breshke wrote:On June 18 2015 13:09 LightningStrike wrote:On June 18 2015 12:34 Breshke wrote:On June 18 2015 11:26 LightningStrike wrote:On June 18 2015 10:53 Breshke wrote:
Also I really agree with bugs on the LS claim and also agree with rsoul that if he is doing it as scum his teammates have been telling him to do it which basically clear up an world of LS/KSC scum pair because he was the only one to pressure him hardcore i felt. Yay for associative reads.
Yet LS just claiming then not doing anything but defending himself with his blue claim feels really scummy. Can you do stuff man, if you are town I know you have it in you. People been pressuring non stop what else was I suppose to do -_- Does repeating "im blue" do anything? They know you claimed. Talk about other stuff Ya want to lynch Shockeyy with me? I want you to convince me why I should lynch shockey TLDR Case on Shockeyy: 1. His list post was rather shitty in terms of reasons 2. He been making excuses for his poor play 3. Some of posts seemed forced I will to vote Boxerfred if Shockeyy doesn't appear to be the lynch today but I think Shockeyy is worse than Boxer atm.
He wanted me to help lynch GB Day 1:
On June 19 2015 06:55 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2015 06:55 ShoCkeyy wrote:On June 19 2015 06:53 KelsierSC wrote:On June 19 2015 06:51 ShoCkeyy wrote:On June 19 2015 06:49 KelsierSC wrote:On June 19 2015 06:47 ShoCkeyy wrote:On June 19 2015 06:45 KelsierSC wrote:On June 19 2015 06:42 GlowingBear wrote:
Yeah, I'm going against Shockey hmm...i thought you had bf as a main scum read though Ugh I don't know this is super fucking weird. And he still hasn't fucking answered me? Don't you see? This is why I switched. I just posted it out flat for you and him to see why I switched my vote. It just drives me mad when a player can easily avoid me voting them by just answering my question. My read on GB was null as you can see... After he went off with his rage posts, I brought it up that he played just like that in the previous game where he was scum and a smurf... Now how is that weird that I vote for him? what was your question, why shouldn't you vote for him he has posted quite a few defences, he didn't say "here shockeyy this one is just for you" but it is in the thread so read. Can you just read my post previously? I asked more than "Why should I not vote for you".... you asked him to read your filter..well he has been pretty fucking busy with other people you have had this weird fake rage reaction like "well you are ignoring me so im going to pressure vote you..." in a situation that gets him lynched...it makes no fucking sense. Alright fine, let's see how this goes. ##unvote
##vote Boxerfred Dude go back to GB please he's the better lynch and if Boxerfred flips town we might be in trouble.
He literally thinks I'm town asked me to post more and I did.
On June 17 2015 20:34 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2015 20:20 KelsierSC wrote:LS one of the issues I had is that you asked a few questions but there was no follow up to it. On June 17 2015 08:04 LightningStrike wrote:On June 17 2015 08:02 Damdred wrote:
Nydus and ls are my first hard town reads of the game.
Kel is a town lean.
I'm town, this is a good start Any thoughts on other people atm? I would like to know what you thinking that's all. This one damdred gave thoughts, you press him for more. Then when you give your list damdred isn't on it..but then you say he's ok afterwards. I'd like you to walk me through your process here. On June 17 2015 08:18 LightningStrike wrote:On June 17 2015 08:16 ritoky wrote:On June 17 2015 08:11 LightningStrike wrote:On June 17 2015 08:09 ritoky wrote:current state of the thread: more updates to come. choppa 4 on the scene. Ugh can you tell me what your reads are atm based on stuff happening? stuff is happening? Interactions of KSC and Bugs plus what people were posting about Onegu's entrance. Then with this one, Why did you ask ritoky about this? again I would like your thought process. I also want to know what you think about shockeyy. I did like damdred's reads for the most part but I was again playing in LoL inhouses at 7:00 pm CST so I didn't post at all to give my thoughts O_o I wanted ritoky's input to get a outsider perspective on it and all I got from him was that it was pretty much null though so ya it ended being a waste Also shockeyy seems okayish content wise just wish he would post more honestly.
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On July 01 2015 05:34 Onegu wrote:
LS knows this is my town meta just like you but he isnt pushing shit reasons...
I just hate the fact that you PUSH LS ALL GAME, then all the sudden, fuck it. He's on your side. It's fucking obvious scum play and people just don't care to see it.
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On July 01 2015 05:32 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On July 01 2015 05:20 ShoCkeyy wrote:
LS if you're not mafia, then why vote for me? You still haven't given a good reason why to vote for me? All you're doing is voting for a town. You vote for me and it's an auto lose. Why not vote for obvious mafia unless you're mafia too? I sheeping the dead plus rux's case pretty much summed what I had thought of you throughout the game. If you're town I sorry that you get lynched but if you're scum at least I can still win since I'm Town.
So you're following others because you can't form your own opinion? Good job. Now I know to never play with you again. Thanks, you're terrible at this game unless you're mafia, then you're not that bad by playing dumb the whole game.
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On July 01 2015 05:36 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On July 01 2015 05:32 Holyflare wrote:On July 01 2015 05:32 LightningStrike wrote:On July 01 2015 05:20 ShoCkeyy wrote:
LS if you're not mafia, then why vote for me? You still haven't given a good reason why to vote for me? All you're doing is voting for a town. You vote for me and it's an auto lose. Why not vote for obvious mafia unless you're mafia too? I sheeping the dead plus rux's case pretty much summed what I had thought of you throughout the game. If you're town I sorry that you get lynched but if you're scum at least I can still win since I'm Town. you should be lynching onegu with me I can see him being town but he also appears really scummy though based on our past together. Also the dead too that were NK'd said to lynch Shockeyy(Including VA)
THEY ALSO SAID TO LYNCH ONEGU AND DAMDRED
On June 28 2015 08:36 VayneAuthority wrote:
heres what it comes down to for me
2 out of damdred, onegu, and shockeyy are scum imo, have to figure out who is town of those.
But of course, you don't want to lynch your buddy Onegu cause you're both mafia.
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On July 01 2015 05:40 Fidei86 wrote:
We did lose Guardians...
And you're about to lose this one...
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On July 01 2015 05:41 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On July 01 2015 05:37 ShoCkeyy wrote:On July 01 2015 05:32 LightningStrike wrote:On July 01 2015 05:20 ShoCkeyy wrote:
LS if you're not mafia, then why vote for me? You still haven't given a good reason why to vote for me? All you're doing is voting for a town. You vote for me and it's an auto lose. Why not vote for obvious mafia unless you're mafia too? I sheeping the dead plus rux's case pretty much summed what I had thought of you throughout the game. If you're town I sorry that you get lynched but if you're scum at least I can still win since I'm Town. So you're following others because you can't form your own opinion? Good job. Now I know to never play with you again. Thanks, you're terrible at this game unless you're mafia, then you're not that bad by playing dumb the whole game. I had already you were Mafia beforehand? Look rux pretty much summed up what I had said about you and sometimes I look at the dead for reasons why they could be NK'd since it's LYLO and we didn't have a clear lynch. Ofc they all had scumread you the night they died I know it's WIFOM but it all matches up to you.
Yes, steal others opinions more. You didn't think anything of me, please refer to post before. You just wrote crap about me.
Quoting this one more time:
On July 01 2015 05:31 ShoCkeyy wrote:Show nested quote +On July 01 2015 04:38 Fidei86 wrote:
As I've said, I think that a confirmed red check is vastly more reliable than any of the other points people are making or have made so far this game. And no, you constantly posting that you're town does not make you town. Other people reading you town does not make you town. I can't say that any other way. I'd much rather lose the game on the off chance you are extremely unlucky than because we basically picked another vote out of the air.
I think Shockkey is very likely scum. He has spent basically his entire filter ripping on LS and defending himself. Highly unconvincing. Then again, that could just be how he plays. But if people won't lynch you, I'll have to follow my dead teacher and mentor in going on Shockey. You haven't read LS's filter then, all he talks about the whole game is that I'm scum but gives no GOOOD reason why I'm scum. Here this was his best response as to why I'm scum: Show nested quote +On June 18 2015 13:25 LightningStrike wrote:On June 18 2015 13:18 Breshke wrote:On June 18 2015 13:09 LightningStrike wrote:On June 18 2015 12:34 Breshke wrote:On June 18 2015 11:26 LightningStrike wrote:On June 18 2015 10:53 Breshke wrote:
Also I really agree with bugs on the LS claim and also agree with rsoul that if he is doing it as scum his teammates have been telling him to do it which basically clear up an world of LS/KSC scum pair because he was the only one to pressure him hardcore i felt. Yay for associative reads.
Yet LS just claiming then not doing anything but defending himself with his blue claim feels really scummy. Can you do stuff man, if you are town I know you have it in you. People been pressuring non stop what else was I suppose to do -_- Does repeating "im blue" do anything? They know you claimed. Talk about other stuff Ya want to lynch Shockeyy with me? I want you to convince me why I should lynch shockey TLDR Case on Shockeyy: 1. His list post was rather shitty in terms of reasons 2. He been making excuses for his poor play 3. Some of posts seemed forced I will to vote Boxerfred if Shockeyy doesn't appear to be the lynch today but I think Shockeyy is worse than Boxer atm. He wanted me to help lynch GB Day 1: Show nested quote +On June 19 2015 06:55 LightningStrike wrote:On June 19 2015 06:55 ShoCkeyy wrote:On June 19 2015 06:53 KelsierSC wrote:On June 19 2015 06:51 ShoCkeyy wrote:On June 19 2015 06:49 KelsierSC wrote:On June 19 2015 06:47 ShoCkeyy wrote:On June 19 2015 06:45 KelsierSC wrote:On June 19 2015 06:42 GlowingBear wrote:
Yeah, I'm going against Shockey hmm...i thought you had bf as a main scum read though Ugh I don't know this is super fucking weird. And he still hasn't fucking answered me? Don't you see? This is why I switched. I just posted it out flat for you and him to see why I switched my vote. It just drives me mad when a player can easily avoid me voting them by just answering my question. My read on GB was null as you can see... After he went off with his rage posts, I brought it up that he played just like that in the previous game where he was scum and a smurf... Now how is that weird that I vote for him? what was your question, why shouldn't you vote for him he has posted quite a few defences, he didn't say "here shockeyy this one is just for you" but it is in the thread so read. Can you just read my post previously? I asked more than "Why should I not vote for you".... you asked him to read your filter..well he has been pretty fucking busy with other people you have had this weird fake rage reaction like "well you are ignoring me so im going to pressure vote you..." in a situation that gets him lynched...it makes no fucking sense. Alright fine, let's see how this goes. ##unvote
##vote Boxerfred Dude go back to GB please he's the better lynch and if Boxerfred flips town we might be in trouble. He literally thinks I'm town asked me to post more and I did. Show nested quote +On June 17 2015 20:34 LightningStrike wrote:On June 17 2015 20:20 KelsierSC wrote:LS one of the issues I had is that you asked a few questions but there was no follow up to it. On June 17 2015 08:04 LightningStrike wrote:On June 17 2015 08:02 Damdred wrote:
Nydus and ls are my first hard town reads of the game.
Kel is a town lean.
I'm town, this is a good start Any thoughts on other people atm? I would like to know what you thinking that's all. This one damdred gave thoughts, you press him for more. Then when you give your list damdred isn't on it..but then you say he's ok afterwards. I'd like you to walk me through your process here. On June 17 2015 08:18 LightningStrike wrote:On June 17 2015 08:16 ritoky wrote:On June 17 2015 08:11 LightningStrike wrote:On June 17 2015 08:09 ritoky wrote:current state of the thread: more updates to come. choppa 4 on the scene. Ugh can you tell me what your reads are atm based on stuff happening? stuff is happening? Interactions of KSC and Bugs plus what people were posting about Onegu's entrance. Then with this one, Why did you ask ritoky about this? again I would like your thought process. I also want to know what you think about shockeyy. I did like damdred's reads for the most part but I was again playing in LoL inhouses at 7:00 pm CST so I didn't post at all to give my thoughts O_o I wanted ritoky's input to get a outsider perspective on it and all I got from him was that it was pretty much null though so ya it ended being a waste Also shockeyy seems okayish content wise just wish he would post more honestly.
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On July 01 2015 05:44 Onegu wrote:Show nested quote +On July 01 2015 05:43 Holyflare wrote:On July 01 2015 05:39 Onegu wrote:
Not guardians, but Carnival. because the mafia gave themselves away with a shit vote count Onegu caught the entire scum team in both games. Onegu caught 2/3 of scum team in Witchcraft. Onegu caught entire scum team in this game.
I thought bugs caught the entire team in witchcraft wtf?
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On July 01 2015 06:14 Onegu wrote:Show nested quote +On July 01 2015 06:14 ShoCkeyy wrote:On July 01 2015 05:44 Onegu wrote:On July 01 2015 05:43 Holyflare wrote:On July 01 2015 05:39 Onegu wrote:
Not guardians, but Carnival. because the mafia gave themselves away with a shit vote count Onegu caught the entire scum team in both games. Onegu caught 2/3 of scum team in Witchcraft. Onegu caught entire scum team in this game. I thought bugs caught the entire team in witchcraft wtf? I was right on 2/3 of the scum team
I want you to tell me how he caught mafia in witchcraft when he didn't do anything?
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On July 01 2015 06:32 Fidei86 wrote:
No way Onegu is on the same side as HF and Shockey, but they're the only other two not voting Shockey.
Please fidei, please, I'm begging just read past pages. You should clearly see Onegu's scum play and he's about to win the game as scum and he's clearly excited about it.
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On July 01 2015 06:50 Damdred wrote:
Idk why there has to be scum on shockey since...there are 5 town and three scum left?
Idk why hf is defending shockey like this when,shock really hasn't done much today?
And what have you done?...... Like you're seriously being ignorant.
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On July 01 2015 06:52 Fidei86 wrote:
okay this is def a ml
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NHM, how am I mafia if I'm willing to lynch onegu?
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ONEGU PLEASE. WE CAN WIN IF WE JUST GET ON ONEGU.
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Oh we won? Nice. GG, going out with a 3 - 0. Next game I play I'm going to get auto lynched d1 lol.
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On July 04 2015 08:13 wherebugsgo wrote:
sorry to those who didn't know why I was abruptly replaced, I had a family emergency. I wish I could have kept playing. Everything is good now though.
Nice to hear bugs! Did you get to read the actual game?
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On July 04 2015 08:04 NydusHerMain wrote:In my defence I tried to lunch shockey everyday
Everyone does in every game I've played lol
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KelsierSC wrong, I'm town.
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EPT
