EPTIve shown you he talked about not being able to post a lot in a game where he was town. So why do his excuses this game make him scum?
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Ive shown you he talked about not being able to post a lot in a game where he was town. So why do his excuses this game make him scum? | ||
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On June 18 2015 14:01 ritoky wrote: real life shit and LS' posting. i am about to say some fucking anti-town shit and i don't give a fuck. unless LS gets to a place where i can town read him for the remainder of the game today or there is slam dunk mafia i am probably voting on him. and i actually somewhat believe his blue claim is real. the problem is the guy keeps spewing anti-town sentiment every time he posts, seriously....he is going to be left alive all fucking game on this question mark of a claim and every phase we are gonna do the "whooaaaa should i lynch him today? dance" and it will probably cost town the fucking game. oh an if you're gonna fucking claim masons with damdred instead of your named VT shit, just do it. you're not subtle in the slightest. since you already claimed blue, if you don't do it now never gonna believe that shit. the state of this game angers me because i think the two people playing the most anti-town are likely town and we are in terrible trouble. | ||
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On June 18 2015 14:13 LightningStrike wrote: I wasn't trying to discredit you GB I was just finding it odd that's all  ##Unvote ##Vote Lightningstrike | ||
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On June 18 2015 14:18 GlowingBear wrote: Breshke, why exactly you are reading shockey for? I assume this is meant to say town reading. I'm not. But he is LS's biggest scumread and instead of convincing me he is scum LS decides respond to random stuff that doesn't matter. | ||
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On June 18 2015 14:21 GlowingBear wrote: And why do you need LS to convince YOU that SHOCKEY is scum? He doesn't. But he was in the thread not doing anythign other than saying "im blue" so im trying to give him something we can talk about so I can advance my read on him other than his blue claim. | ||
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On June 18 2015 14:22 LightningStrike wrote: I been trying to but you convince you but you just wont listen -_-.......... Why do I have to face brick walls bigger than GoT. I feel like rage quitting now and might just make a damn document of my reads tomorrow. I am not trying to treat you like an ass, im not actually voting you it never made it to the vote thread. The problem is i feel like you fabricated your read on shockey. I don't think you think his posts seemed forced I think you jsut said that because it is something that is attributed to him ebign scum. I do also realize that it is possible for a town to do this when they are under suspicion liekt his because you wanted your read on shockey to seem fuller. Anyway who are your top 3 towns LS? | ||
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On June 18 2015 14:40 GlowingBear wrote: TBH i prefer to lynch Lohengrann over shockey Why is boxer so far down. | ||
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On June 18 2015 14:44 rsoultin wrote: o.0 that is pretty weird rit good catch meh :/ ppl making me doubt my reads on them = sadface What is weird about it rsoul | ||
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On June 18 2015 14:49 rsoultin wrote: shitfight nai townreading us? those two don't compute, and i don't expect you to contradict yourself in the same post Ohh i thought you meant the spaces. | ||
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On June 18 2015 15:00 rsoultin wrote: eh it's like 1am my brain's not working  bresh explain that post don't just ooohhhhhh at me this filter dive isn't getting done tonight so i'm just gonna park where i'm at i agree with hf on bf...with the addition that him scumreading hf for hf's read on me without having a read on me and saying he'll read me later...makes no earthly sense. how can he know it's "bad" if he hasn't even checked it? the meta thing is whatever (don't care about that) but the logic isn't there and also there's the coming back to the thread much later to just talk about the same read i don't know why hf of everyone else. not gonna worry about that right now lohen i could lynch tomorrow easily, is the best way to put it i'd currently lynch bf lohen va in that order i'm not ready to hard townread hf and damdy's fallen off for me a bit, too...both of which worry me. not today's lynches though by a longshot bresh...i kinda feel like i can read him but i need to filter dive him to stop the doubts you started rit xP so, there's that eeeeehhhhhh i think that's it liking gb a little better again >> now that he's stopped hyperfocusing on everyone else's reads on him. kinda like how he pushed in like screw you guys (i'm weird; so sue me) I already explained it. Well explained the lack of explanation. I had very small if not shitty reasoning for townreading you both there. I could even say that it was a bid to make the fighting between you look dumb (because it was) but i don't know how well i thought that through. I can't explain saying i townread you and bugs there more than I have already and if that makes you doubt im town thats a shame but there isn't anything more to add about it. | ||
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On June 18 2015 14:53 GlowingBear wrote: I'm not really worried about his "meta read" on bugs. I can see him doing that as town too. What worries me, for example, as that he quickly defended me in the beginning of the game. I felt it was townie but now, after reevaluating it, I was scum last game and he was calling me town there. I think if he got an impression on how bugs plays the game based on the latest game they played together, he would be wary of me today. But he isn't. Also there are these little not-very-alignment-indicative things in his filter but I you add them up, they gain scum-body. I love neologism. I didn't really defend you from bugs calling you scum if ir ecall it was more me defending you from him calling you bad. I also was one of the only ones to back Bugs in his initial scumread of you last game and yes i did end up townreading you but I don't really see how that is relevant. Do you think your play this game has been similar to witch? Someone is probably going to ask for it so do you want to show what the little not every alignment inductive things are. | ||
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On June 18 2015 15:10 rsoultin wrote: now i remember that post lol >< simple question then. were your reads related to the shitfight at all? all i need to know I assume you mean the townreads on you and bugs. If so then no | ||
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On June 18 2015 15:12 Breshke wrote: I didn't really defend you from bugs calling you scum if ir ecall it was more me defending you from him calling you bad. I also was one of the only ones to back Bugs in his initial scumread of you last game and yes i did end up townreading you but I don't really see how that is relevant. Do you think your play this game has been similar to witch? Someone is probably going to ask for it so do you want to show what the little not every alignment inductive things are. I'm guessing you missed this GB and its fairly dissapointing because right now you scum read me for exactly 0 reasons which are obvious to the thread. Like little NAI things that add up yet you failed to point anything out when im not being scumread by anyone else. Yet you are now asleep and by the time you wake up i will most likely be asleep so there is no chance of you conversing with me until like EoD if I am awake for it. Bleh | ||
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On June 18 2015 17:17 Fidei86 wrote: @Breshke did you see my post on you? I'd be keen to get your thoughts on what I said.. On June 18 2015 10:49 Breshke wrote: + Show Spoiler + On June 18 2015 10:03 Fidei86 wrote: Breshke - So his first substantive post is here, and it makes absolutely no sense to me. What LS wrote is about as NAI as I've seen in mafia. Saying you've rolled town is what everyone would say, if asked. Saying it unprompted doesn't mean anything - some people who prefer town might want to revel in it, whereas scum might use it as a tool to start subconsciously planting the idea that they're town. Basically the post gives me no "townie feelings" whatsoever, and I'm not sure why Breshke would say it did. He then gives a soft-town meta read on LS, (which we should think about for later, because it could be a deflect). I really hate this. He starts off by saying something pretty nasty about WBG (that he is self-important), and he says it in a snide offhand way. Moreover, the whole post just seems to amble around in search of a point, without ever finding one, and concluding that he does not have a read. His final set of posts are all just asking questions of people. I don't think this is necessarily bad play (and I guess I'm not one to talk about bad play ^^), but it feels kind of lazy - particularly because people in the thread haven't been very good at actually answering questions. It's sort of a good way to look like you're town, without actually saying anything, IN PARTICULAR because he never then follows up on any of his questions with follow-ups. It looks like pure filter-filler to me. I do agree with him that the rso/WBG fight was tedious as fuck. All his three "would lynch" candidates were mostly AFK, so they were pretty non-controversial. That's not really AI though, because I kinda agree that town is better off lynching lurkers who don't contribute, rather than someone who some people read as scum but who is posting consistently. His final two posts show a little more leg, but feel a bit light. Ritoky was right, I think, his reasons for his rsoult/WBG read was really lacking. However, I also agree with Ritoky that his response was honest, if not very impressive. If he was mafia, I would have expected him to protest a little more. Then again, if he felt he was caught in a trap, he might have recognised the best thing to do was move on. Finally, I should say that I HATE posts that are just "I don't like this". Scott did it all last game and he was town, but TT also did it and he was mafia. So it's not AI, but at the same time it's just annoying and it clutters up the thread. Say why you don't like something, or don't say anything at all. After all that, I give him a null read. Maybe on the slight scum side, only because he has been so reactive. The first thing about LS was early so yeah generally it is pretty baseless. I still think it shows some townie mindset because the way he refers to bugs came off as really upfront to me and was far to obvious if he was trying to actually buddy bugs. It has nothing to do with him saying I am town. The bugs thing is a misunderstanding. Feel free to get bugs to confirm this but I didn't intend it to be snide nor do i think he took it that way. In our last game bugs said he was 90% sure he was better than me as scum (which he deffs is) which made me think he rated himself highly as a scum player. So when he said he is a 5/10 scum player it didn't make sense to me. Also the point of that post was to stop BUGS from going at it with GB which I did not think would be useful for the thread because it would have been about Bugs thinking GB was bad not scum. Don't have much tto say about anything else you said but the i don't like this stuff is bad yeah if ive been doing it ill try stop and just come out with the reason right away You might have missed it cos i put your quote in spoilers to try make the post shorter | ||
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On June 18 2015 17:17 ritoky wrote: mig is probably more actively scummy to me because he provided content and then went back on his own content over basically nothing. BF, while i see him as scummy i can kinda see a little bit of his perspective from bad town. skimming thread until strange interaction -> read more on thing you find strange -> give reads on thing you find strange -> defend your bad reads because you think highly of them. that is a progression that bad town can go through, but it is still shitty. that said the above probably still isn't enuf to get me to not vote on LS lol mmm I think GB said the same thing about BF how saw it could have come from a mafia or town perspective but with your explanation I kind of understand that some more now. Lynching LS is going to be shit | ||
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