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On June 16 2015 05:40 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2015 05:37 batsnacks wrote:On June 16 2015 05:36 ruXxar wrote:On June 16 2015 05:32 WaveofShadow wrote:On June 16 2015 05:31 ruXxar wrote:On June 16 2015 05:22 WaveofShadow wrote:
I've already said I haven't read much of Rels' posts.
Top scum is still absolutely Sulf. If the only reason to not lynch him is because 'oh well he did this shit in another game,' then that's not nearly enough.
Not much else has changed to be honest, other than the fact that I'd probably bump Rels up on my list to that muddle of 'null' players.
Other two are more than likely amongst Damdred/you(ruxxar)/Rels/Scott/Kickstart. I think Oats re-gets a townread for feels and you move down slightly because I dunno how you could be voting moosy and calling Sulf town without some shenanigans going on. And why won't you read rels posts?!.... As a town it's your duty to stay informed so you can make a judgement based on as much information as possible. Because they're long, boring, and mostly useless clearly. Can you explain to me what makes them particularly important in the grand scheme of things? It gives us a window into how he thinks, who he suspects, why he suspects them. We can use them to see if he's making good or bad reads, if his alignment is the same as ours, and to better judge him. What you're essentially saying is that you'd rather he had said nothing. That's not a very towny perspective now is it? Yeah I'd be happier if sulfur is lynched but I'd be happier if ruxxar was lynched. I see you're at it again with you "Bat Traps™ mafia traps. The highest quality traps for your scum hunting needs." We all saw how that worked out with geript.
Look how the mafia continues to discredit the read that he sheeped. Please take note newbies.
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Just to make it clear to everyone.
I wouldn't mind if Sulfur was lynched for his complete lack of contribution.
However, I would much rather try to lynch a mafia than a shitty town any day of the week.
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I don't mind my name being thrown around I'm either moving to sul or ruxxar.
I'll be more active shortly
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On June 16 2015 05:41 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2015 05:40 ruXxar wrote:On June 16 2015 05:37 batsnacks wrote:On June 16 2015 05:36 ruXxar wrote:On June 16 2015 05:32 WaveofShadow wrote:On June 16 2015 05:31 ruXxar wrote:On June 16 2015 05:22 WaveofShadow wrote:
I've already said I haven't read much of Rels' posts.
Top scum is still absolutely Sulf. If the only reason to not lynch him is because 'oh well he did this shit in another game,' then that's not nearly enough.
Not much else has changed to be honest, other than the fact that I'd probably bump Rels up on my list to that muddle of 'null' players.
Other two are more than likely amongst Damdred/you(ruxxar)/Rels/Scott/Kickstart. I think Oats re-gets a townread for feels and you move down slightly because I dunno how you could be voting moosy and calling Sulf town without some shenanigans going on. And why won't you read rels posts?!.... As a town it's your duty to stay informed so you can make a judgement based on as much information as possible. Because they're long, boring, and mostly useless clearly. Can you explain to me what makes them particularly important in the grand scheme of things? It gives us a window into how he thinks, who he suspects, why he suspects them. We can use them to see if he's making good or bad reads, if his alignment is the same as ours, and to better judge him. What you're essentially saying is that you'd rather he had said nothing. That's not a very towny perspective now is it? Yeah I'd be happier if sulfur is lynched but I'd be happier if ruxxar was lynched. I see you're at it again with you "Bat Traps™ mafia traps. The highest quality traps for your scum hunting needs." We all saw how that worked out with geript. I'm not sure what bats said has anything to do with geript's supposed scumslip.
He's nitpicking on a word that was supposedly a "slip" from me.
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On June 16 2015 05:44 ruXxar wrote:
Just to make it clear to everyone.
I wouldn't mind if Sulfur was lynched for his complete lack of contribution.
However, I would much rather try to lynch a mafia than a shitty town any day of the week.
Wanna know the easiest way to tell the difference between mafia and shitty town? Be mafia. Like seriously there is no way you should be able to tell the difference as town given what sulfur has provided, unless you are mafia and you actually know sulfur's alignment.
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On June 16 2015 05:48 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2015 05:41 WaveofShadow wrote:On June 16 2015 05:40 ruXxar wrote:On June 16 2015 05:37 batsnacks wrote:On June 16 2015 05:36 ruXxar wrote:On June 16 2015 05:32 WaveofShadow wrote:On June 16 2015 05:31 ruXxar wrote:On June 16 2015 05:22 WaveofShadow wrote:
I've already said I haven't read much of Rels' posts.
Top scum is still absolutely Sulf. If the only reason to not lynch him is because 'oh well he did this shit in another game,' then that's not nearly enough.
Not much else has changed to be honest, other than the fact that I'd probably bump Rels up on my list to that muddle of 'null' players.
Other two are more than likely amongst Damdred/you(ruxxar)/Rels/Scott/Kickstart. I think Oats re-gets a townread for feels and you move down slightly because I dunno how you could be voting moosy and calling Sulf town without some shenanigans going on. And why won't you read rels posts?!.... As a town it's your duty to stay informed so you can make a judgement based on as much information as possible. Because they're long, boring, and mostly useless clearly. Can you explain to me what makes them particularly important in the grand scheme of things? It gives us a window into how he thinks, who he suspects, why he suspects them. We can use them to see if he's making good or bad reads, if his alignment is the same as ours, and to better judge him. What you're essentially saying is that you'd rather he had said nothing. That's not a very towny perspective now is it? Yeah I'd be happier if sulfur is lynched but I'd be happier if ruxxar was lynched. I see you're at it again with you "Bat Traps™ mafia traps. The highest quality traps for your scum hunting needs." We all saw how that worked out with geript. I'm not sure what bats said has anything to do with geript's supposed scumslip. He's nitpicking on a word that was supposedly a "slip" from me.
I'm not nitpicking. Pairing yourself with wave by saying OUR is not something town needs to or thinks to do. Wave isn't just making that up. Then you fling suspicion at him in the same post?
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On June 16 2015 05:48 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2015 05:41 WaveofShadow wrote:On June 16 2015 05:40 ruXxar wrote:On June 16 2015 05:37 batsnacks wrote:On June 16 2015 05:36 ruXxar wrote:On June 16 2015 05:32 WaveofShadow wrote:On June 16 2015 05:31 ruXxar wrote:On June 16 2015 05:22 WaveofShadow wrote:
I've already said I haven't read much of Rels' posts.
Top scum is still absolutely Sulf. If the only reason to not lynch him is because 'oh well he did this shit in another game,' then that's not nearly enough.
Not much else has changed to be honest, other than the fact that I'd probably bump Rels up on my list to that muddle of 'null' players.
Other two are more than likely amongst Damdred/you(ruxxar)/Rels/Scott/Kickstart. I think Oats re-gets a townread for feels and you move down slightly because I dunno how you could be voting moosy and calling Sulf town without some shenanigans going on. And why won't you read rels posts?!.... As a town it's your duty to stay informed so you can make a judgement based on as much information as possible. Because they're long, boring, and mostly useless clearly. Can you explain to me what makes them particularly important in the grand scheme of things? It gives us a window into how he thinks, who he suspects, why he suspects them. We can use them to see if he's making good or bad reads, if his alignment is the same as ours, and to better judge him. What you're essentially saying is that you'd rather he had said nothing. That's not a very towny perspective now is it? Yeah I'd be happier if sulfur is lynched but I'd be happier if ruxxar was lynched. I see you're at it again with you "Bat Traps™ mafia traps. The highest quality traps for your scum hunting needs." We all saw how that worked out with geript. I'm not sure what bats said has anything to do with geript's supposed scumslip. He's nitpicking on a word that was supposedly a "slip" from me.
That's not a slip, it's a deliberate insertion.
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On June 16 2015 05:48 batsnacks wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2015 05:44 ruXxar wrote:
Just to make it clear to everyone.
I wouldn't mind if Sulfur was lynched for his complete lack of contribution.
However, I would much rather try to lynch a mafia than a shitty town any day of the week.
Wanna know the easiest way to tell the difference between mafia and shitty town? Be mafia. Like seriously there is no way you should be able to tell the difference as town given what sulfur has provided, unless you are mafia and you actually know sulfur's alignment.
I made a compelling argument for why he wouldn't be mafia.
Why don't you refute that instead.
I'm a newb playing mafia for the first time, and even I thought that move was so bad it was cringeworthy.
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On June 16 2015 05:51 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2015 05:48 batsnacks wrote:On June 16 2015 05:44 ruXxar wrote:
Just to make it clear to everyone.
I wouldn't mind if Sulfur was lynched for his complete lack of contribution.
However, I would much rather try to lynch a mafia than a shitty town any day of the week.
Wanna know the easiest way to tell the difference between mafia and shitty town? Be mafia. Like seriously there is no way you should be able to tell the difference as town given what sulfur has provided, unless you are mafia and you actually know sulfur's alignment. I made a compelling argument for why he wouldn't be mafia. Why don't you refute that instead. I'm a newb playing mafia for the first time, and even I thought that move was so bad it was cringeworthy.
It actually reminds me of the same play I made when I called out Moosy's supposed blue role earlier.
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On June 16 2015 05:48 batsnacks wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2015 05:44 ruXxar wrote:
Just to make it clear to everyone.
I wouldn't mind if Sulfur was lynched for his complete lack of contribution.
However, I would much rather try to lynch a mafia than a shitty town any day of the week.
Wanna know the easiest way to tell the difference between mafia and shitty town? Be mafia. Like seriously there is no way you should be able to tell the difference as town given what sulfur has provided, unless you are mafia and you actually know sulfur's alignment.
Well except that this would belie that Sulf is actually town and Ruxxar's case is a simple case of TMI, and I have a very hard time believing that Sulf is town.
Associations aside I still don't know if I'd lynch Ruxxar first, but I think at this point I'd do it over Rels.
Votecount?
How many people are still on him actually, because that may be some interesting info too considering how quickly the wagon started at the beginning of the day.
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On June 16 2015 05:53 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2015 05:48 batsnacks wrote:On June 16 2015 05:44 ruXxar wrote:
Just to make it clear to everyone.
I wouldn't mind if Sulfur was lynched for his complete lack of contribution.
However, I would much rather try to lynch a mafia than a shitty town any day of the week.
Wanna know the easiest way to tell the difference between mafia and shitty town? Be mafia. Like seriously there is no way you should be able to tell the difference as town given what sulfur has provided, unless you are mafia and you actually know sulfur's alignment. Well except that this would belie that Sulf is actually town and Ruxxar's case is a simple case of TMI, and I have a very hard time believing that Sulf is town. Associations aside I still don't know if I'd lynch Ruxxar first, but I think at this point I'd do it over Rels. Votecount?How many people are still on him actually, because that may be some interesting info too considering how quickly the wagon started at the beginning of the day.
If ruxxar and sulfur are both mafia I don't think it's unreasonable to think that ruxxar is defending his scum mate who has all but left their team to fend for themselves. I also don't think it's unreasonable to think that ruxxar's case is TMI. So sulfur's alignment doesn't matter, ruxxar is scummy regardless.
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No town should feel confident enough that sulfur of all people is townie enough to defend them with an actual case. Especially someone who has never played with sulfur before.
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On June 16 2015 05:55 batsnacks wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2015 05:53 WaveofShadow wrote:On June 16 2015 05:48 batsnacks wrote:On June 16 2015 05:44 ruXxar wrote:
Just to make it clear to everyone.
I wouldn't mind if Sulfur was lynched for his complete lack of contribution.
However, I would much rather try to lynch a mafia than a shitty town any day of the week.
Wanna know the easiest way to tell the difference between mafia and shitty town? Be mafia. Like seriously there is no way you should be able to tell the difference as town given what sulfur has provided, unless you are mafia and you actually know sulfur's alignment. Well except that this would belie that Sulf is actually town and Ruxxar's case is a simple case of TMI, and I have a very hard time believing that Sulf is town. Associations aside I still don't know if I'd lynch Ruxxar first, but I think at this point I'd do it over Rels. Votecount?How many people are still on him actually, because that may be some interesting info too considering how quickly the wagon started at the beginning of the day. If ruxxar and sulfur are both mafia I don't think it's unreasonable to think that ruxxar is defending his scum mate who has all but left their team to fend for themselves. I also don't think it's unreasonable to think that ruxxar's case is TMI. So sulfur's alignment doesn't matter, ruxxar is scummy regardless.
Ok so here's a thought.
You're a mafia. It's an exciting role yes?
If you rolled mafia would you not be more inclined to actually stay alive and win than if you were town?
I can understand the IDGAF attitude if you roll vanilla town, but as mafia I would be way more interested in the game.
Why would sulfurus STILL not even ATTEMPT to mount some sort of defense?
Is he breaking the rules of the mafia game and not playing to WIN?
Does he honestly think that I alone am going to be able to save him?
Not in a million years when I'm already suspect as mafia.
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On June 16 2015 05:55 batsnacks wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2015 05:53 WaveofShadow wrote:On June 16 2015 05:48 batsnacks wrote:On June 16 2015 05:44 ruXxar wrote:
Just to make it clear to everyone.
I wouldn't mind if Sulfur was lynched for his complete lack of contribution.
However, I would much rather try to lynch a mafia than a shitty town any day of the week.
Wanna know the easiest way to tell the difference between mafia and shitty town? Be mafia. Like seriously there is no way you should be able to tell the difference as town given what sulfur has provided, unless you are mafia and you actually know sulfur's alignment. Well except that this would belie that Sulf is actually town and Ruxxar's case is a simple case of TMI, and I have a very hard time believing that Sulf is town. Associations aside I still don't know if I'd lynch Ruxxar first, but I think at this point I'd do it over Rels. Votecount?How many people are still on him actually, because that may be some interesting info too considering how quickly the wagon started at the beginning of the day. If ruxxar and sulfur are both mafia I don't think it's unreasonable to think that ruxxar is defending his scum mate who has all but left their team to fend for themselves. I also don't think it's unreasonable to think that ruxxar's case is TMI. So sulfur's alignment doesn't matter, ruxxar is scummy regardless.
Fair, though defending a scum-mate who has left is more likely a lost cause so I would expect a bus more than putting your neck out to defend them. Which, I suppose lends more credence to the theory of Ruxxar being newbie scum would think to defend teammates at all costs? I dunno.
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On June 16 2015 06:00 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2015 05:55 batsnacks wrote:On June 16 2015 05:53 WaveofShadow wrote:On June 16 2015 05:48 batsnacks wrote:On June 16 2015 05:44 ruXxar wrote:
Just to make it clear to everyone.
I wouldn't mind if Sulfur was lynched for his complete lack of contribution.
However, I would much rather try to lynch a mafia than a shitty town any day of the week.
Wanna know the easiest way to tell the difference between mafia and shitty town? Be mafia. Like seriously there is no way you should be able to tell the difference as town given what sulfur has provided, unless you are mafia and you actually know sulfur's alignment. Well except that this would belie that Sulf is actually town and Ruxxar's case is a simple case of TMI, and I have a very hard time believing that Sulf is town. Associations aside I still don't know if I'd lynch Ruxxar first, but I think at this point I'd do it over Rels. Votecount?How many people are still on him actually, because that may be some interesting info too considering how quickly the wagon started at the beginning of the day. If ruxxar and sulfur are both mafia I don't think it's unreasonable to think that ruxxar is defending his scum mate who has all but left their team to fend for themselves. I also don't think it's unreasonable to think that ruxxar's case is TMI. So sulfur's alignment doesn't matter, ruxxar is scummy regardless. Ok so here's a thought. You're a mafia. It's an exciting role yes? If you rolled mafia would you not be more inclined to actually stay alive and win than if you were town? I can understand the IDGAF attitude if you roll vanilla town, but as mafia I would be way more interested in the game. Why would sulfurus STILL not even ATTEMPT to mount some sort of defense? Is he breaking the rules of the mafia game and not playing to WIN? Does he honestly think that I alone am going to be able to save him? Not in a million years when I'm already suspect as mafia.
Actually the vast majority of people hate playing scum. There are a lot of vets on this site who simply do what Sulf is doing in this situation as scum.
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On June 16 2015 06:00 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2015 05:55 batsnacks wrote:On June 16 2015 05:53 WaveofShadow wrote:On June 16 2015 05:48 batsnacks wrote:On June 16 2015 05:44 ruXxar wrote:
Just to make it clear to everyone.
I wouldn't mind if Sulfur was lynched for his complete lack of contribution.
However, I would much rather try to lynch a mafia than a shitty town any day of the week.
Wanna know the easiest way to tell the difference between mafia and shitty town? Be mafia. Like seriously there is no way you should be able to tell the difference as town given what sulfur has provided, unless you are mafia and you actually know sulfur's alignment. Well except that this would belie that Sulf is actually town and Ruxxar's case is a simple case of TMI, and I have a very hard time believing that Sulf is town. Associations aside I still don't know if I'd lynch Ruxxar first, but I think at this point I'd do it over Rels. Votecount?How many people are still on him actually, because that may be some interesting info too considering how quickly the wagon started at the beginning of the day. If ruxxar and sulfur are both mafia I don't think it's unreasonable to think that ruxxar is defending his scum mate who has all but left their team to fend for themselves. I also don't think it's unreasonable to think that ruxxar's case is TMI. So sulfur's alignment doesn't matter, ruxxar is scummy regardless. Ok so here's a thought. You're a mafia. It's an exciting role yes? If you rolled mafia would you not be more inclined to actually stay alive and win than if you were town? I can understand the IDGAF attitude if you roll vanilla town, but as mafia I would be way more interested in the game. Why would sulfurus STILL not even ATTEMPT to mount some sort of defense? Is he breaking the rules of the mafia game and not playing to WIN? Does he honestly think that I alone am going to be able to save him? Not in a million years when I'm already suspect as mafia.
This works both ways. Why would sulfur not attempt to mount some sort of defense as town if his win condition is to keep town alive and lynch mafia? So no this is not a reason to townread sulfur.
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On June 16 2015 06:03 batsnacks wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2015 06:00 ruXxar wrote:On June 16 2015 05:55 batsnacks wrote:On June 16 2015 05:53 WaveofShadow wrote:On June 16 2015 05:48 batsnacks wrote:On June 16 2015 05:44 ruXxar wrote:
Just to make it clear to everyone.
I wouldn't mind if Sulfur was lynched for his complete lack of contribution.
However, I would much rather try to lynch a mafia than a shitty town any day of the week.
Wanna know the easiest way to tell the difference between mafia and shitty town? Be mafia. Like seriously there is no way you should be able to tell the difference as town given what sulfur has provided, unless you are mafia and you actually know sulfur's alignment. Well except that this would belie that Sulf is actually town and Ruxxar's case is a simple case of TMI, and I have a very hard time believing that Sulf is town. Associations aside I still don't know if I'd lynch Ruxxar first, but I think at this point I'd do it over Rels. Votecount?How many people are still on him actually, because that may be some interesting info too considering how quickly the wagon started at the beginning of the day. If ruxxar and sulfur are both mafia I don't think it's unreasonable to think that ruxxar is defending his scum mate who has all but left their team to fend for themselves. I also don't think it's unreasonable to think that ruxxar's case is TMI. So sulfur's alignment doesn't matter, ruxxar is scummy regardless. Ok so here's a thought. You're a mafia. It's an exciting role yes? If you rolled mafia would you not be more inclined to actually stay alive and win than if you were town? I can understand the IDGAF attitude if you roll vanilla town, but as mafia I would be way more interested in the game. Why would sulfurus STILL not even ATTEMPT to mount some sort of defense? Is he breaking the rules of the mafia game and not playing to WIN? Does he honestly think that I alone am going to be able to save him? Not in a million years when I'm already suspect as mafia. This works both ways. Why would sulfur not attempt to mount some sort of defense as town if his win condition is to keep town alive and lynch mafia? So no this is not a reason to townread sulfur.
Because if he's mafia and i'm mafia and I still try to protect him despite the fact that he has given up then I'm an idiot no?
Basically what wave said.
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On June 16 2015 06:05 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2015 06:03 batsnacks wrote:On June 16 2015 06:00 ruXxar wrote:On June 16 2015 05:55 batsnacks wrote:On June 16 2015 05:53 WaveofShadow wrote:On June 16 2015 05:48 batsnacks wrote:On June 16 2015 05:44 ruXxar wrote:
Just to make it clear to everyone.
I wouldn't mind if Sulfur was lynched for his complete lack of contribution.
However, I would much rather try to lynch a mafia than a shitty town any day of the week.
Wanna know the easiest way to tell the difference between mafia and shitty town? Be mafia. Like seriously there is no way you should be able to tell the difference as town given what sulfur has provided, unless you are mafia and you actually know sulfur's alignment. Well except that this would belie that Sulf is actually town and Ruxxar's case is a simple case of TMI, and I have a very hard time believing that Sulf is town. Associations aside I still don't know if I'd lynch Ruxxar first, but I think at this point I'd do it over Rels. Votecount?How many people are still on him actually, because that may be some interesting info too considering how quickly the wagon started at the beginning of the day. If ruxxar and sulfur are both mafia I don't think it's unreasonable to think that ruxxar is defending his scum mate who has all but left their team to fend for themselves. I also don't think it's unreasonable to think that ruxxar's case is TMI. So sulfur's alignment doesn't matter, ruxxar is scummy regardless. Ok so here's a thought. You're a mafia. It's an exciting role yes? If you rolled mafia would you not be more inclined to actually stay alive and win than if you were town? I can understand the IDGAF attitude if you roll vanilla town, but as mafia I would be way more interested in the game. Why would sulfurus STILL not even ATTEMPT to mount some sort of defense? Is he breaking the rules of the mafia game and not playing to WIN? Does he honestly think that I alone am going to be able to save him? Not in a million years when I'm already suspect as mafia. This works both ways. Why would sulfur not attempt to mount some sort of defense as town if his win condition is to keep town alive and lynch mafia? So no this is not a reason to townread sulfur. Because if he's mafia and i'm mafia and I still try to protect him despite the fact that he has given up then I'm an idiot no? Basically what wave said.
Association is bad and you are scummy regardless of sulfur's alignment. I don't need to know sulfur's alignment to know that you're probably mafia.
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If for any reason sulfurus flips and he's red, you can lynch me next night 100%, I won't even be mad.
I'm that confident in my read.
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On June 16 2015 06:09 ruXxar wrote:
If for any reason sulfurus flips and he's red, you can lynch me next night 100%, I won't even be mad.
I'm that confident in my read.
1 post ago you just explained that sulfurus flipping red makes you town. Even though you were wrong wtf even is this?
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