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batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
June 13 2015 14:08 GMT
#686
Why am I the best lynch ruxxar? Think about this game from an the perspective of an outside observer who knows everyone's alignment.

Right now you think the best lynch for d1 is the person who cares the most about the game and has put in more effort than anyone else.

If I'm town than an outside observer is probably looking at you (and oats) and thinking "what the literal fuck are these people doing?"

Even if I'm mafia the same outside observer is thinking... "yeah bats is mafia but still... what the literal fuck are these people doing?"

How do you expect to win by lynching the person who put forth the most effort d1?
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
June 13 2015 14:10 GMT
#688
On June 13 2015 23:09 Oatsmaster wrote:
Thats like the worst argument in existence.


No it's not. Go piss somewhere else for a while.
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
June 13 2015 14:42 GMT
#690
On June 13 2015 23:38 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2015 23:10 batsnacks wrote:
On June 13 2015 23:09 Oatsmaster wrote:
Thats like the worst argument in existence.


No it's not. Go piss somewhere else for a while.

i mean, it probably means you arent mafia because mafia know that activity isnt a good argument.
So you got that going for you


Activity is a very strong argument for d1 especially for me. I would say that you should know this, but I expect less from you and will have to adjust my meta of you to expect even less after this game.
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
June 13 2015 14:47 GMT
#692
On June 13 2015 23:43 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2015 23:42 batsnacks wrote:
On June 13 2015 23:38 Oatsmaster wrote:
On June 13 2015 23:10 batsnacks wrote:
On June 13 2015 23:09 Oatsmaster wrote:
Thats like the worst argument in existence.


No it's not. Go piss somewhere else for a while.

i mean, it probably means you arent mafia because mafia know that activity isnt a good argument.
So you got that going for you


Activity is a very strong argument for d1 especially for me. I would say that you should know this, but I expect less from you and will have to adjust my meta of you to expect even less after this game.

Ok?

You think I care.
Its funny.


No I know you don't care, which is part why the adjustment is necessary.

This is your new meta: Oats pushes the first thing he sees and doesn't stop until not doing so would endanger his chances of survival. Oats is not logical and does not re-evaluate his reads.
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
June 13 2015 14:55 GMT
#694
On June 13 2015 23:53 Oatsmaster wrote:
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On June 13 2015 23:47 batsnacks wrote:
On June 13 2015 23:43 Oatsmaster wrote:
On June 13 2015 23:42 batsnacks wrote:
On June 13 2015 23:38 Oatsmaster wrote:
On June 13 2015 23:10 batsnacks wrote:
On June 13 2015 23:09 Oatsmaster wrote:
Thats like the worst argument in existence.


No it's not. Go piss somewhere else for a while.

i mean, it probably means you arent mafia because mafia know that activity isnt a good argument.
So you got that going for you


Activity is a very strong argument for d1 especially for me. I would say that you should know this, but I expect less from you and will have to adjust my meta of you to expect even less after this game.

Ok?

You think I care.
Its funny.


No I know you don't care, which is part why the adjustment is necessary.

This is your new meta: Oats pushes the first thing he sees and doesn't stop until not doing so would endanger his chances of survival. Oats is not logical and does not re-evaluate his reads.

Yes very good, thats my meta.


I accidentally used a double negative but I'm glad you understand what I meant anyway.
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
June 13 2015 15:28 GMT
#697
I don't know... I reread both their filters and sulfurus has talked more about n00b's townread on rux than anything else this game like that's the focal point of his entire filter. Why is town sulfur spending more time talking about someone else's townread than anything else?

Page 2 [half] of geript's filter isn't pushing any agenda except for the reasonless list post where he says rux/sulfur is who we should lynch.

I want to wait and see if either of them post again.
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
June 13 2015 17:31 GMT
#704
On June 14 2015 02:22 geript wrote:
Yay. People want to be stupid and lynch me again. This shit so tiring.


I don't think stupidity is the primary reason people want to lynch you.
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
June 13 2015 17:50 GMT
#708
That's a really long post for what could be condensed into: you didn't like my opening and you don't consider activity an indicator of my alignment. Activity is highly alignment indicative for me so at least that much is wrong. I think it's okay that you didn't like my opening; I didn't like my opening either.

(this is general advice that you don't have to read but that I think would benefit you if you're interested. you don't have to read it.)
+ Show Spoiler +
When you make a case you should present the condensed version first, then if you're asked to flesh it out you can do that later. Look at Trfel's case on Rels. That is an example of a highly effective case. You shouldn't just do play by play commentary on posts in someone's filter. A good case doesn't have to be long and a huge number of quotes just makes it look padded.
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
June 13 2015 17:52 GMT
#709
On June 14 2015 02:48 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2015 02:31 batsnacks wrote:
On June 14 2015 02:22 geript wrote:
Yay. People want to be stupid and lynch me again. This shit so tiring.


I don't think stupidity is the primary reason people want to lynch you.

Stupidity. Not thinking. Relatively the same thing.

I mean you haven't given people a lot to think about so they might not be entirely at fault.
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
June 13 2015 18:03 GMT
#717
btw Sulfurus did not sheep anyone last game and never once voted opportunistically. The main reason sulfurus was lynched last game is because he voted outside of the main wagons, completely independently, two days in a row. He just sort of did his own thing and didn't follow anyone.
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
June 13 2015 18:08 GMT
#719
Here are the final vote counts from the first two days of newbie X, notice how sulfurus is off doing his own thing:
On May 24 2015 07:04 cakepie wrote:
~ Final Vote Count ~

scott31337 (6) : Rels, batsnacks (X), Tictock (X), Breshke, sicklucker, batsnacks, boxerfred, disformation
disformation (3) : Barakos, Breshke (X), 27ninjabunnies, plotspot
plotspot (1) : Bill Murray, Tictock (X)
27ninjabunnies (1) : Bill Murray (X), Tictock
batsnacks (1) : sicklucker (X), Sulfurus
Bill Murray (0) : Tictock (X), Sulfurus (X), Rels (X), boxerfred (X)
boxerfred (0) : Rels (X)
Breshke (0) : Sulfurus (X)
sicklucker (0) : Breshke (X), batsnacks (X), Bill Murray (X), batsnacks (X)
Sulfurus (0) : disformation (X)

Not voting (1) : scott31337

Currently, scott31337 is set to be lynched!


+ Show Spoiler [Details] +
  • Bill Murray -> 27ninjabunnies
  • Breshke -> sicklucker
  • batsnacks -> sicklucker
  • Tictock -> Bill Murray
  • Bill Murray -> sicklucker
  • Sulfurus -> Breshke
  • Tictock -> --
  • Bill Murray -> plotspot
  • Tictock -> plotspot
  • Sulfurus -> Bill Murray
  • Barakos -> disformation
  • Breshke -> disformation
  • Rels -> boxerfred
  • Rels -> Bill Murray
  • boxerfred -> Bill Murray
  • boxerfred -> --
  • Rels -> scott31337
  • batsnacks -> scott31337
  • Sulfurus -> --
  • disformation -> Sulfurus
  • 27ninjabunnies -> disformation
  • plotspot -> disformation
  • Tictock -> --
  • batsnacks -> sicklucker
  • Tictock -> scott31337
  • Breshke -> --
  • Breshke -> scott31337
  • sicklucker -> batsnacks
  • sicklucker -> scott31337
  • batsnacks -> scott31337
  • boxerfred -> scott31337
  • disformation -> scott31337
  • Tictock -> 27ninjabunnies
  • Sulfurus -> batsnacks

On May 27 2015 07:01 -Celestial- wrote:
~ Final Vote Count ~

Bill Murray (5) : sicklucker (X), 27ninjabunnies, batsnacks, boxerfred (X), disformation, Tictock, plotspot
27ninjabunnies (4) : batsnacks (X), sicklucker (X), Breshke (X), disformation (X), Bill Murray, Breshke, Tictock (X), plotspot (X), sicklucker, boxerfred (X), boxerfred
sicklucker (2) : Breshke (X), Tictock (X), disformation (X), Bill Murray (X), boxerfred (X), Sulfurus, Breshke (X), Barakos
Barakos (0) : sicklucker (X)
batsnacks (0) : sicklucker (X)

Currently, Bill Murray is set to be lynched!




+ Show Spoiler [Details] +
  • Breshke -> sicklucker
  • Tictock -> sicklucker
  • disformation -> sicklucker
  • sicklucker -> Bill Murray
  • Bill Murray -> sicklucker
  • sicklucker -> --
  • Bill Murray -> --
  • sicklucker -> batsnacks
  • batsnacks -> 27ninjabunnies
  • sicklucker -> 27ninjabunnies
  • Breshke -> 27ninjabunnies
  • disformation -> 27ninjabunnies
  • boxerfred -> sicklucker
  • Bill Murray -> 27ninjabunnies
  • sicklucker -> Barakos
  • Sulfurus -> sicklucker
  • Breshke -> sicklucker
  • Breshke -> 27ninjabunnies
  • Tictock -> 27ninjabunnies
  • Barakos -> sicklucker
  • plotspot -> 27ninjabunnies
  • sicklucker -> 27ninjabunnies
  • boxerfred -> 27ninjabunnies
  • 27ninjabunnies -> Bill Murray
  • batsnacks -> Bill Murray
  • boxerfred -> Bill Murray
  • disformation -> Bill Murray
  • Tictock -> Bill Murray
  • plotspot -> Bill Murray
  • boxerfred -> 27ninjabunnies


batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
June 13 2015 18:28 GMT
#726
On May 24 2015 06:04 Sulfurus wrote:
I admit even I am confused as to why NinjaBunnies is defending me so hard; right now the only vote on her is Tictock (someone who I have had a townread on longer then anyone else) but she is definitely someone who needs to be looked at later.

For me the the person with the most useful reads and my top town is Barakos; he was the one who helped me townread Breshke and scumread Disformation with this post, he has shown a healthy suspicion of NinjaBunnies, and he influenced me to un-vote BM, along with SL, with his coinflip argument (for the record I still think SL is town).

My favorite Barakos post so far is this one right here especially the Batsnacks part which shows how scummy he truly is (Bat's overly defensive reactions in posts 538 & 539 don't help his case either) so while he won't get lynched today I'll definitely be pushing for his death tomorrow.

##Vote: Batsnacks


This is sulfur when he's town.
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
June 13 2015 18:30 GMT
#727
wait BM was town, I messed that one up.
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
June 13 2015 18:53 GMT
#738
On June 14 2015 03:48 Trfel wrote:
I just looked at Sulfurus's filter from Newbie Student Mafia X.

He was lynched Day 3, with only two pages of filter. When the pressure was on him, me barely responded at all. I just don't feel comfortable reading him. It's not just trying to tell newbie from scum, the complete lack of posts makes it a complete nightmare. I'd rather take a Day 1 lynch that isn't a shot in the dark.

I really would appreciate it if geript answered my question to him here.


Look at the content of his posts in that game though. They're actually pretty dense and show signs of critical thinking. There are like 10 reads crammed into the post I quoted and color coded.
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
June 13 2015 19:18 GMT
#758
On June 14 2015 04:13 Sulfurus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2015 22:42 Damdred wrote:
(Never use this again bats is to smart a player)

+ Show Spoiler +

On June 13 2015 22:42 Damdred wrote:
Yeah bats is a completely stupid lynch, here. (Never use this again bats is to smart a player)

If you look at bats last scum/town games you see a few things crop up.

1) as scum once it's clear that he is going to,be one of,l the leading wagons his care factor diminishes to a few posts randomly complaining without doing anything about it or pushing his own thoughts.

In comparison here he is pushing what he thinks explaining why he's town,and,not giving,up. I liked bats when I first read his filter. He keeps pushing the thread.

2) as scum, he has developed an ability to have weak scum reads to a point.

Here he has well reasoned or seemingly well reasoned reasons for calling people out.

3) resorts to trolling as scum when he's caught.

He's not doing this here.

Bats is town, besides meta. Biggest filter, most controversial figure d1. Okish reads.

Leave the bats alone




This read is so bad. Like if Bats is so smart what's stopping him from changing his meta this game. It's not like he is unaware of this meta either since he spammed the thread with his 'longest filter' defense.


That read is excellent which is why damdred qualifies it with "don't use it again."
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
June 13 2015 19:56 GMT
#782
On June 14 2015 04:54 geript wrote:
Actually, I think I'm going to sheep too.


I'll sheep Trfel.
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
June 13 2015 20:04 GMT
#789
On June 14 2015 05:00 Sulfurus wrote:
I didn't want to say anything about trfel before because his vote on Bats was protecting me but he is just straight up wrong on Rels. He makes a post here where he says rels made a bad town read on ruXxar even though (IMO) ruXx is one of the towniest players in the game.

He also keeps saying that Rels is tunneled on Plant's only post and he basically dismisses the rest of his filter when in fact it's really good and shows a town who is focused on trying to solve the game.


This is bold. Why does mafia post this?
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
June 13 2015 20:10 GMT
#796
On June 14 2015 05:08 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2015 05:04 batsnacks wrote:
On June 14 2015 05:00 Sulfurus wrote:
I didn't want to say anything about trfel before because his vote on Bats was protecting me but he is just straight up wrong on Rels. He makes a post here where he says rels made a bad town read on ruXxar even though (IMO) ruXx is one of the towniest players in the game.

He also keeps saying that Rels is tunneled on Plant's only post and he basically dismisses the rest of his filter when in fact it's really good and shows a town who is focused on trying to solve the game.


This is bold. Why does mafia post this?

It's not uncommon for mafia to defend town badly. Especially newer mafia.


So Rels is town? I thought you would sheep Trfel.
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
June 13 2015 20:15 GMT
#804
##unvote
##vote geript
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
June 13 2015 20:18 GMT
#807
On June 14 2015 05:10 batsnacks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2015 05:08 geript wrote:
On June 14 2015 05:04 batsnacks wrote:
On June 14 2015 05:00 Sulfurus wrote:
I didn't want to say anything about trfel before because his vote on Bats was protecting me but he is just straight up wrong on Rels. He makes a post here where he says rels made a bad town read on ruXxar even though (IMO) ruXx is one of the towniest players in the game.

He also keeps saying that Rels is tunneled on Plant's only post and he basically dismisses the rest of his filter when in fact it's really good and shows a town who is focused on trying to solve the game.


This is bold. Why does mafia post this?

It's not uncommon for mafia to defend town badly. Especially newer mafia.


So Rels is town? I thought you would sheep Trfel.

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